Linux-Misc Digest #803, Volume #20               Sun, 27 Jun 99 05:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: trying to install Red Hat -Signal 11 errors (Eric Wyles)
  A couple of newbie questions ("Ken Farmer")
  Re: wvdial can't find modem on Com 3?? (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  Re: CD player - no sound (Eric McCraw)
  Re: gui diff tool for linux? (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  Re: [Fwd: Missing Library] (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  Re: WANTED: People for Ivrix Project - Hebrew-enabled Linux (David Klein)
  Re: can't run executable (Bill Unruh)
  Re: can't run executable (Bill Unruh)
  Re: first/second/third world (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: wvdial can't find modem on Com 3?? (Bill Unruh)
  Re: ECC on SDRAMS - is it beneficial w/Linux? (Floyd Davidson)
  Re: first/second/third world (Vilmos Soti)
  Newbie Question..Hardware Platform ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: SANE + USB (Linux Kernels 2.3+) (Audin Malmin)
  Re: Run in background (Peter Samuelson)
  Re: HowTo Monitor Internet Acvities While At Work? (Jimmy Navarro)
  Re: HowTo Monitor Internet Acvities While At Work? (Jimmy Navarro)
  Re: first/second/third world (Richard Kulisz)
  ZIP Drive/RH6 Install Problem
  Re: Documentation issues. (Russ Allbery)

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From: Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: trying to install Red Hat -Signal 11 errors
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:36:21 -0800

I'm not sure if I can help, but I'll give it a shot.

I used to get errors all the time during installation. I'm
not sure if they were signal 11 or signal 7, but I did
figure out how to solve them. I was (and still am) using a
Creative PC-DVD Dxr2 drive to install from. I'm not sure
exactly why, but if I left the installation sitting idle and
let the CD-ROM rest for long, I would get these errors. I
had to turn off "check for bad blocks" on the format of my
drive, and I had to sit right with the installation to keep
things moving. If I ever waited too long before making the
CD do something again I would crash.

I still have this problem and for now I just have to work
around it. This may help you, then again maybe not. Maybe
someone on this newsgroup will know what I can do to fix my
problem instead of just working around it.

Any ideas?



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From: "Ken Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A couple of newbie questions
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:00:16 -0500

This isn't a problem - just a newbie trying to understand the boot process.

I boot my machine from a floppy using Lilo. The diskette has the usual
etc/lilo.conf and /boot/message.
No matter how much I change the /boot/message file, (like changing the
timeout from 100 to 200 and/or adding text to the bottom of the file)  I
still get the standard message with the 10 second time out.  That is, it
looks like it is getting another message file from somewhere else.  There is
no lilo.conf or message on my hard drive unless they are hidden.

Questions: Is the lilo message file used when booting from the floppy?  Or
does it just boot straight up from the image?

Second question:.  After formatting a diskette with fdformat /dev/fd0H1440,
the mount command gives a message about bad blocks or unknown file system.
Do I need to make a file system on the newly formatted diskette?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wvdial can't find modem on Com 3??
Date: 27 Jun 1999 04:58:30 GMT

running wvdial on /etc/wvdial.conf fails because no
modem is found either on ttyS1 or ttyS2 (supposedly the
correct location... )
,,,
1- Run wvdialconf
2- If it fails, ln -sf /dev/ttyS2 /dev/modem . Don't use cuaX.
3- If it fails again, this isn't a Wvdial problem.
4- Wvdial have a mailing-list. For more help, search their site.


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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:27:17 -0500
From: Eric McCraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD player - no sound

Andrey Zmievski wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Dennis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What distribution?
>
> Redhat 6.0.
>
> > IS your CD Drive properly mounted?
>
> Yes. The CD player detects the number of tracks on the disc and all.
>
> -Andrey
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

try chmod 666 /dev/cdrom




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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gui diff tool for linux?
Date: 27 Jun 1999 05:06:42 GMT

My SuSE 5.2 has mgdiff.
,,,
GTKdiff too.
http://www.ainet.or.jp/~inoue/software/gtkdiff/


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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Missing Library]
Date: 27 Jun 1999 05:03:56 GMT

When trying to configure and install WebMaker I get the following error
message during configuration::
"no acceptable C++  compiler found in  $PATH "..
,,,
First, look at the config.cache and config.log. Sometimes they help.
WebMaker is a KDE application and it uses g++. Make sure you have it and in
your path.


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From: David Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WANTED: People for Ivrix Project - Hebrew-enabled Linux
Date: 27 Jun 1999 08:47:36 +0300

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nadav Har'El) writes:

<snip>
>      I'm an avid supporter of free software, and have been interested in
>    Hebrew software for a long time. Among other things, I wrote a high-
>    quality Hebrew support for LaTeX 2.09 (used internally at my work - I
>    haven't released it yet, but I intend to now), and a program to generate
>    Jewish calendars (also unreleased yet). However, I realize that creating

I just thought that I would point out that the emacs calendar already
has support for Jewish holidays. As a matter of fact, I even have an
add in that tells me what the "daf yomi" is.

I tried to reply directly, but my mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
bounced.

-- 
Use of tools distinguishes Man from Beast. And UNIX users from WINDOZE lusers.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can't run executable
Date: 27 Jun 1999 06:08:08 GMT

In <7l49dg$s3g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brutus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Hi, I'm using Open Linux ver 2.2 and I'm having a problem getting 
>executables that I compile to run.
>After creating an executable with gcc 
>for example "gcc example.cc -o run"
>I then type in "run" and get the error message
>"Command not found"

You do not have . in your path. to run the program do
./run
not
run
and you will find that it now works.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can't run executable
Date: 27 Jun 1999 06:11:12 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jacob Ratkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>That will probably work. If it does, you may want to add the
>./ directory to your path to avoid having to type it every
>time. The command to do this, (in bash anyway) is 

This is also dangerous. A hacker puts a rogue program named ls into /tmp
You just type ls while you are in  /tmp, and instead of running the
system ls, it runs te rogue program.
Better just to get used to typing ./ This is especially true of root. 
a) Do not put . into the path of root.
b) If you really want . in your path, put it in as the very last item in
the path, certainly not the first.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: 27 Jun 1999 06:02:39 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Anonymous  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Precisely which of our colonies are we exploiting?

Tahiti; the atrocities committed by the recently ousted regime can
be directly attributed to the USA since Uncle Sam is the one who all
but killed Aristide and even now refuses to let Aristide serve out
the remainder of his term as President. Tahiti has trouble feeding
its own population and yet it is a net *exporter* of food (one guess
where the food's going); nuts and such.

Mexico, Brazil, Columbia, and Chile are all prime examples. Does
United Fruit Company ring a bell (now called Chiquita btw)? What
about Anaconda Copper? Do you remember the crash of the peso in
the early 90s? What do you think the USA got as part of its bail-
out package? It kept Mexico out of OPEC (and that took some doing
since Saudi Arabia was gonna just *hand over* more cash than the
USA loaned) and forced Mexico to sell its oil at cut-throat rates.
That's a deal between a billionaire and someone too poor too feed
his children; how could it possibly be fair? Btw, the bailout went
to pay off foreign (read; American) investors so Mexico actually
gained nothing from it. But hey, it helps a lot when the Mexican
President is a crook that graduated from Harvard and understands
that "international obligations" precede feeding the starving and
other such irrelevant domestic factors.

Surely you've heard about the proposed debt relief. The whole thing
is a crock. It will only cover a bit more than 1/3 of the Third world's
debt instead of the 3/4s in the headline I saw in my local rag (I don't
have any idea whose ass they pulled that number from since they changed
it to 1/2 in the middle of the article. The underdeveloped nations owed
more than 330 billion a few years ago and you can be sure it hasn't gone
down since then (the proposed relief is 130 billion).

Here's the interesting thing. The only latin nation to qualify will be
Nicaraga. El Salvador probably has a higher debt than Nicaraga but the
difference is that El Salvador tried to resist a US war of aggression
(and was trying to get damages in the World Court last I heard) while
Nicaraga was the staging area for that war of aggression. Nicaraga
qualifies but El Salvador does not. *Nothing* suspicious about that!

And how do you think this debt was accumulated in the first place? In
the Philippines, the US government handed over money to the dictator
*knowing* that he would just pocket it. And where do you suppose the
dictator's pocket is located? He just *happens* to have accounts in
Florida. Naturally, when the dictator was finally ousted (with an
acceptable "exit strategy" provided by the USA), the first thing his
successor did was reassure the world that the Phillipines would meet
their "international obligations".

But most of the debt was accumulated for perfectly legitimate reasons;
building dams and power stations and the like. And at the time the loans
were taken out, long-term interest rates had been 1-2% for decades. Since
then, the Federal Reserve Board has artificially inflated the interest
rates until they're more than triple what they should be. Exploitation?
Surely not! If you actually compute the /legitimate/ debt of underdeveloped
nations (and this can be done relatively easily) then you end up with the
staggering fact that some nations are *owed* *back* money. What do you
think is their chance of /ever/ collecting?

So the Third World has this huge debt which has been foisted on them,
with the cooperation of local heads of state (and if such cooperation
is not forthcoming then an assassination or coup d'etat will be). And
this is the most shocking thing of all; for every dollar that goes to
the underdeveloped nations as foreign aid, 11 go /out/ to service their
crushing debts. We're rich and they're poor and they're giving *US*
money. Exploitation? Surely not! So here's why I said it's a crock;
even if the Third World's debt was 91% wiped out, it would still only
come out even. And that's only the *overt* exploitation. More covert
things, like corporations going into a country, mining out the gold
or oil, shipping it /and/ the profits out of the country ... that kind
of crap occurs as well. And if a nation objects to this rough-shod
treatment by corporations owned and operated by US nationals then
they'll soon find themselves at the losing end of an economic war in
protest of their "protectionist" stance. Exploitation is often called
"free trade", "free enterprise", or just plain 'capitalism' in the
media and by the elites. And if you understand capitalism to mean rule
by those with capital then the media is perfectly honest on that point.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: wvdial can't find modem on Com 3??
Date: 27 Jun 1999 06:13:30 GMT

In <7l49tr$bgs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Ronald Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Hi, I have installed Suse 6.1, and have "configured" my modem
>with Yast under Com 3 (in dos).  Seems to work...

>running wvdial on /etc/wvdial.conf fails because no
>modem is found either on ttyS1 or ttyS2 (supposedly the
>correct location... )

I have had trouble getting wvdial to run. That could be your problem.
you may have a winmodem. Was that configuring under dos, under a dos
session on windows? Winmodems will not work under Linux.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Subject: Re: ECC on SDRAMS - is it beneficial w/Linux?
Date: 27 Jun 1999 06:05:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Larry Brasfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jenni G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I would like to make my server as robust as possible - anyone know if
>> ECC on the SDRAMs will be beneficial in Linux environment?
>
>Yes.  All operating systems rely on their code resident
>in memory matching what was generated during its
>build and loaded from disk, as well as their own data
>structures not spontaneously becoming corrupt.  Linux
>is no exception.

And the cost difference is small enough to make it an easy to
afford risk insurance package.

  Floyd


-- 
Floyd L. Davidson                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
     North Slope images: <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:03:52 +0000
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world

Richard Kulisz wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Anonymous  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Precisely which of our colonies are we exploiting?
> 
> Tahiti; the atrocities committed by the recently ousted regime can
> be directly attributed to the USA since Uncle Sam is the one who all
> but killed Aristide and even now refuses to let Aristide serve out
> the remainder of his term as President. Tahiti has trouble feeding
> its own population and yet it is a net *exporter* of food (one guess
> where the food's going); nuts and such.


Hi,

What does this has to do with operating systems or GNU?

And Aristide was a president of HAITI not TAHITI.

Good Luck, Vilmos

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Newbie Question..Hardware Platform
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 06:59:39 GMT

What is the minimum hardware i need to run linux ??
Can it be run on a handheld computer ?
Like a Windows Ce Machine ??
Is there a place I can read about
what the minimum hardware requirements
are for running Linux ??
tia
kjm


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Audin Malmin)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scanners
Subject: Re: SANE + USB (Linux Kernels 2.3+)
Date: 27 Jun 1999 07:08:04 GMT

On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:29:12 GMT, testtest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When will Linux support USB scanners such as the UMAX Astra 1220u?

        Work on SCSI over USB is just beginning.  So in a few months
at least SCSI->USB scanners should be somewhat usable.  I'm not sure
about other types.  Check out the Linux USB mailing list:

Mailing List

The mailing list can be found at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To subscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text
"subscribe linux-usb"

An archive can be found at http://electricrain.com/lists/archive/linux-usb/. 
This mailing list also contains all of the posts to Inaky's original mailing 
list.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Run in background
Date: 27 Jun 1999 02:24:51 -0500
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  [vineet]
> > How do I make my C program to run in background after getting
> > initialised.  I mean that the program should detach from the
> > terminal and should run in background like a daemon.

[mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> super simple.
[...]
>       if(!fork())
[...]

That doesn't "detach from the terminal".  To do that you have to jump
through interesting hoops like closing your tty fd's (typically 0,1,2),
and while you're at it you may as well setsid() to get a new session.
As someone else already posted, any decent Unix programming book will
have the Correct Invocations [tm] which, btw, are not entirely
portable.  (I mean to pre-POSIX systems.)

Someone else posted about daemon(3).  I didn't know that one.  I'll
have to remember it.  (Though it's probably not �ber-portable either.)

-- 
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>

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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: HowTo Monitor Internet Acvities While At Work?
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:14:01 -0700

Hi Dave,

May be you can e-mail me direct if you have aURL or anything about that Perl
script, etc..  I have couple of test proxy server running in Linux and BSD to
try it out where their bandwidth is being zapped.  I've trying looking for
possible solution at Linux programming by Wrox customing sockets but have no
clue.

Jimmy Navarro
p.s.:  to e-mail me direct, remove extra.

David Jordan wrote:

> I would suggest running apache as a proxy server and logging all requests.
> That way you can run a perl script or similar (I have some if you wish) that
> will rummage through the log files and pick out who does what once a week
> ... then wrap their knuckles :-)
> DJ
>
> Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I work around huge comporate network of NT servers: SMB server, PDC,
> > firewall, routers, e-mail servers, etc...  Is there way to remotely
> > monitor or track down employees abusing the LAN-to-Internet continuous
> > connectivity surfing the WWWduring working hours with their Ethernet
> > connected Windows 95/NT workstations?  Any suggestion?
> >



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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: HowTo Monitor Internet Acvities While At Work?
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:26:10 -0700

Stewart Honsberger wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:20:16 -0700, Jimmy Navarro wrote:
>
> >Hi, Mr. Ron DuFresne with dodo brain, fyi I was just posting the question
> >was asked me by a MCSE NT System Administrator who doesn't work around Unix
> >is there's something he could do and this issue is not even my concern.
>
> HAH! Some MCSE! Man, he really earned THAT CrackerJack box diploma!
>
> He's so good at what he does - he doesn't waste his time on such minor tasks?
> {snerk}
>
> --
> Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
> Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

CrackerJack box diploma?  Yea right.  Having MCSE or CNE pays in some big
companies even where I work with couple of NT because a lot of huge corporate
enterprise bought the MS marketing hype where we just inherited it the existing
NOS.  I personally use Linux (you may verify my message header) since Linux
kernel 0.* while early SCO and other COTS Unix was the only variants around.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: 27 Jun 1999 07:54:20 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Vilmos Soti  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What does this has to do with operating systems or GNU?

The GNU Manifesto is essentially anarcho-syndicalism (ie, communism)
and US campaigns of terrors are widely responsible for the suppression
of any and all left-wing activity in latin america.

>And Aristide was a president of HAITI not TAHITI.

Damn, I can't believe I slipped up so stupidly!

>Good Luck, Vilmos

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ZIP Drive/RH6 Install Problem
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 08:02:52 GMT

Hello Tecra-tites & Linuxers - 
 
  Problem - Install IoMega Zip driver to RH6. 
            Enable ParPort option for HPLJ printing 
 
  Symptoms - Downloaded ppa.tar (with parport.c driver) 
            Compiled OK (after using bzImage for compression) 
            At Kernel Boot time - PPA module did not recognize 
            any connected drives. 
 
  Research - Under RH5.1 -> mount -t ext2 /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip 
            worked fine.  Not so with current kernel. 
            MATT WELSH's book -"Linux Installation & Getting 
               Started" (Linux System Labs) has an entire page 
            devoted to adding INTERRUPT parameters to Boot Line 
            input (e.g.) 
 
                    append="lp=0x378, 0 ppa=x0278,7" 
 
  Comments - ?????????? 
 
 
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From: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Documentation issues.
Date: 27 Jun 1999 01:52:42 -0700

In gnu.misc.discuss, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there some reason SDF (Simple Document Format) hasn't caught on?
> http://www.mincom.com/mtr/sdfsite-2.001/ It claims to be author-friendly
> and has translators to several output forms.

Probably for the same reason yodl hasn't really.  Not enough critical
mass.  Isn't SDF the one that's basically POD on steriods?  The whole
point of POD is that it's *not* on steriods; it's dead simple and I've yet
to meet someone who can't pick up the entire language in fifteen minutes.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])         <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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