Linux-Misc Digest #803, Volume #21               Tue, 14 Sep 99 02:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: How can I disable su? (John Doe)
  Unable to determine your tty name. (Rob Nafus)
  Re: Fat32? ("Dennis J. Sylvester")
  How to convert photoshop 7 files (Gary R. Walsh)
  WordPerfect 8.0 for Linux?! (Jack Zhu)
  Chat and simple dialing of modem (Chuck)
  Unable to open file descriptor (Danny Aldham)
  Re: StarOffice? (Erik de Castro Lopo)
  Re: New Linux Bulletin Board (Erik de Castro Lopo)
  Re: Favorite Editor? (Erik de Castro Lopo)
  Re: Notepad for Linux? (Erik de Castro Lopo)
  SO5.1 Install uder RH6.0 (Niann Shiang)
  Q: Sun accounts, iBCS and SCO (Raphael Mankin)
  Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Joe Cosby)
  Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Joe Cosby)
  How to change /dev/cdrom definition? ("Edmond")
  Re: Favorite Editor? (Allin Cottrell)
  Re: zImage (Larry Ozarow)
  Re: Cannot find libstc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 (Chris Mahmood)
  Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself (David Fox)
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ("Chad Mulligan")
  Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (K. Bjarnason)
  Re: How to change /dev/cdrom definition? (Vilmos Soti)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Doe)
Subject: Re: How can I disable su?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:27:07 -0500

I thank everyone for the answer but is it possible for a user to just bring a
su program from another box and install it in her path like /home/girl/bin.
If I were the user who is thwarted by not being able to run su that is how 
I would go about doing it.

Also suauth is not in my path and have never experienced it before.
In which package is it?  I user red hat 6.0.


On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:59:55 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I read the other responses sent so far, and none seemed to answer the
>question directly, and
>'simply,' so here is a direct, and simple answer:
>       chgrp admin /bin/su
>       chmod 750 /bin/su
>Now, all you need to do is add each user you'd like to have access to
>the 'admin' group (or any other group you choose to create.. admin was a
>simple example)  You can take the time to man su and suauth as another
>post suggested, and you'd get another answer.  This one however, is
>simple and gets the job done, and is somewhat secure.
>
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Dear Gurus
>>
>> How can I allow only certain users to have access to su?
>> I have seen this works on an acount I have access to and
>> I would like to do it on linux box.
>>
>> Thanks in adavnce
>>
>> please cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>
>--
>        |                   Bill Bartlett                 |
>        | Metro One Telecommunications
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: Rob Nafus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unable to determine your tty name.
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:57:05 +1700

What does this error mean when trying to telnet to a Linux 
Redhat 6.0 box?

How do I fix it?


Unable to determine your tty name.

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From: "Dennis J. Sylvester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fat32?
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:21:49 -0700

RE wrote:

> Hi
>
> The  fat32 filesystem is supported by  kernel 2.2.x? (Rh6, Suse 6.1, ...)
>
> TIA.
>
> Roberto

If this is a question...the answer is yes.  Make sure VFAT support is
compiled into the kernel.  While your at it you might as well make sure FAT
and MSDOS support is also compiled in.  Then you can do:  mount -t [vfat,
msdos] /dev/floppy /[mntpoint].

Dennis


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary R. Walsh)
Subject: How to convert photoshop 7 files
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:11:45 GMT

Sombody sent me some image files in Photoshop 7 format.  Does anyone know of
any program that I can use to convert them to JPG or PNG?  Preferably for
Linux or OS/2, but a non-buggy freeware Windows program would be acceptable as
a last resort

Gary R. Walsh                    [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Richmond Hill, Ontario          http://www.interlog.com/~grwalsh


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From: Jack Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: WordPerfect 8.0 for Linux?!
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:10:39 -0400

INstall Corel WordPerect 8.0 on RH6.0 without problems. My printer is
Epson Stylus Color 500, which printer should I choose inside WordPerfect
8.0?

Thanks a lot!!!


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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:02:18 -0700
From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Chat and simple dialing of modem

I am trying to use the 'chat' command to simply dial a phone number and
the man chat does not describe it very well.  Can anyone help me dicern
how I tell it where my modem is....send the ATDT string and the the
number.
Chuck

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
Subject: Unable to open file descriptor
Date: 14 Sep 1999 03:02:52 GMT

X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

I have an apache1.3.4 server with about 500 virtual domains. We have started
to get this error when it starts up:
[Mon Sep 13 19:45:20 1999] [warn] (24)Too many open files: unable to open 
a file descriptor above 15, you may need to increase the number of descriptors

How do I increase the number of open files I can have? 

--
Danny Aldham     Providing Certified Internetworking Solutions to Business
www.postino.com  E-Mail, Web Servers, Mail Lists, Web Databases, SQL & Perl

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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.office.misc,microsoft.public.office.setup
Subject: Re: StarOffice?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:04:45 +1000

Thomas R. Burkholder wrote:
> 
> I've tried SO 5.1 on my Win98 machine and really liked the integrated
> desktop.  It reads all MS Office and WP files and keeps the correct
> formatting.  If you have the bandwidth, download it.  If not, order the CD.
> 
> I didn't keep it, because I was going to upgrade to Office 2000.  Now that
> I've seen MS's offering, I prefer Star Office.
> 
> Tom
> 
> Kim wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone ever used Sun's free "office" product called StarOffice?

I'm using quite a lot at the moment on Linux. Its pretty good, no major
complains at all. It has a few quirks but so does every package. I also 
tried Word Perfect for Linux but ditched it. It really wasn't working
for me.

I'm using to open, edit and save a whole pile of MS Word docs (word 2.0
to won97) and it seems to work really well. The files I save can even be
read by the MS products.

You will need a rather grunty machine to run it however.

Hope this helps,
Erik
-- 
+-------------------------------------------------+
     Erik de Castro Lopo     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+-------------------------------------------------+
"Even in the area of anticompetitive conduct, Microsoft is mainly an
imitator." -- Ralph Nader (1998/11/11)

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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Linux Bulletin Board
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:09:02 +1000

LINUX BULLETIN BOARD wrote:
> 
> ANNOUNCEMENT FROM:
> WM. Baker Associates
> 
> On 09/13/99 WM. Baker Associates launched the
> Linux Bulletin Board at:
> 
> http://www.w-b-a.com/linux.html

Why would anybody want to use some web based bulletin
board when they've got Usenet and www.deja.com?

It doesn't make sense!

Erik
-- 
+-------------------------------------------------+
     Erik de Castro Lopo     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+-------------------------------------------------+
"Anyone who says you can have a lot of widely dispersed people hack
 away on a complicated piece of code and avoid total anarchy has never
 managed a software project." - Andy Tanenbaum in 1992 on comp.os.minix

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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Favorite Editor?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:10:35 +1000

Richard Aleksandr wrote:
> 
> Hi :
> 
> I am looking for a full screen editor for Linux that doesn't suck.
> gnotepad+ is getting there but has bugs and sucks - for example, select
> another edited file tab and when you go back to the previous file your
> cursor has been reset to the beginning. Hey thanks!
> 
> I like theTextEdit shareware editor on Windows A LOT but unfortunately
> as we all know Windows sucks, and now I am back doing Unix development.
> God, do I miss Borland C++ though. Fortunately Inprise is porting C++
> Builder to Linux as we speak. What an excellent development environment
> that is, now I'm spoiled.
> 
> Please do not suggest I use xemacs, xemacs SUCKS. But, I would welcome
> any other tips on a decent editor.

Nedit is good :

    http://www-pat.fnal.gov/nirvana/nedit.html

Very stable, configurable, doesn't screw up tabs and is good in bed.

Erik
-- 
+-------------------------------------------------+
     Erik de Castro Lopo     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+-------------------------------------------------+
Linux : Think of it as 'free' as in 'free speech' not 'free beer'.

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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Notepad for Linux?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:07:26 +1000

Edward J. Smiley Jr. wrote:
> 
> Hey Chris,
>         Where can I get Nedit for Linux?
> 
> Ed

Nedit is very good. I've been using for a couple of years 
now but only recent started using features like syntax
highlighting. 

Here's the home page: 
   http://www-pat.fnal.gov/nirvana/nedit.html

I run it compiled against the lesstif libraries:

    http://www.lesstif.org

Erik
-- 
+-------------------------------------------------+
     Erik de Castro Lopo     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+-------------------------------------------------+
Beware the Lollipop of Mediocrity.
Lick it once, and you suck forever.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niann Shiang)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: SO5.1 Install uder RH6.0
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:04:23 GMT

I download a huge 68M tar file from Suns web site.  tar xvf
so51a_lnx_xx.tar does not seem to work. What went wrong with the tar
command ?  I suppose the next step would be just ./setup.  Is it
correct ?

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From: Raphael Mankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Q: Sun accounts, iBCS and SCO
Date: 13 Sep 1999 18:38:04 GMT

Does anyone have experience of running Sun Accounts under
Linux/iBCS?

I have taken a backup of a SCO Unix system, restored it in a
sensible place under Linux, tinkered a bit with symlinks and PATH
so as to make things look plausible, loaded iBCS, and tried to run
it.

I get as far as running SSMM (whatever that might be), but it just
loops apparently doing nothing.

There is, of course, absolutely no documentation.

Helpful suggestions, anyone? I could always buuild a new SCO Unix
system, but the client would prefer Linux (and so would I).

Followup: comp.os.linux.misc
-- 
-- 
               Politics: The conduct of public affairs for private advantage
                        Ambrose Bierce
Raphael Mankin
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Cosby)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: 14 Sep 1999 04:28:11 GMT

** To reply in e-mail, remove "tanguv." from address **

John Birch hunched over his computer, typing feverishly;
thunder crashed, John Birch laughed madly, then wrote:
> On 09 Sep 1999 somebody wrote:
> 
> 
> >>Cooper provides a wonderful example.  'Jane' loses all her files because someone
> >>changes her default directory in Word.
> 
> >>What I'm saying is, if Jane had been taught a basic core concept like directory 
>structure
> >>she wouldn't have batted an eye.
> 
> >Again, the concept that jane should learn the details of her present
> >dancing-bearware is something we both agree on.  The question of
> >designing operating systems (and thus deciding which set of details
> >she has to learn) is another question.  Linux, QNX, and Amiga make
> >different decisions in these areas.  Can a new Amiga do better?
> 
> What I'm saying is that if Jane was using a better OS (not one
> currently available), she would find her data by supplying a number of
> keywords. For instance when she opened her Word processor she might
> select <last document> for the instance you cite. If she wanted the
> last document that mentioned interest rates she might add <interest
> rates>. if she wanted to open (at least partially) all documents
> concerning interest rates than she would say <all><interest rates> or
> something similar.
> 

Well, I like it, but it's still (implicitly) a hierarchical
structure.  Another thing, if you've done web searches you know
that what you enter for search text and what the search returns
are always related, but often related in too literal a manner.

But word matching can be powerful, if it's handled right.  I find
even with fairly large databases, filtering on even three or four
letters in a certain sequence usually reduces the choices to a
very easily manageable number, a small handful at worst.

I think the idea of a set of visual filters of some sort would be
ideal, but I don't know what the ideal way of establishing those
filters automatically would be.  I think literal text-matching
could be frustrating.

> >>But I think the problem with these two solutions is immediately obvious.  They 
>-add- to
> >>the amount of knowledge necessary for Jane to handle her computer.

> Indeed, further they suggest a degree of smarts about the system that
> is painfully lacking. In my experience, the most confusing aspect of
> computers for **complete** novices is tht they aren't at all smart.

I agree, people don't seem to get that computers -don't- think.

> People with no experience expect a computer to just 'do things' in the
> same way they expect cars to just 'go'.

What would be cool sort of would be if the computer macro-recorded
everything the user did.  Preferably 'crunching' the resulting
macros by cross-referencing related activity.

Then as the computer got more 'experienced', it could offer the
user the option to 'do some certain common activity', representing
a high-frequency activity of the user.  Obviously, that's an
off-the-top of my head idea.  I kinda like it though.  A language
like 'Rebol' would be good for that.

> But ubfortunately computers
> currently require the user to adapt to the machine, and to perform
> operations that actually the machine is _more_ capable of doing _like
> remembering what they namied specific documents, or constructing some
> indexation strategy.
> 
> >or making HTML style hyperlinks really easy for
> >Jane to create, so that she makes a link rather than saving a file, and clicks
> >the link rather than retrieving the file.
> Yes, but this is straying back into the hierarchical structure kind of
> mode. You are requiring the user to establish a paradigm of filing for
> themselves.. this is unnecessary.... for example if I draw an image
> using a painting program.. the computer is already able to index that
> data as an image (rather than text, numerical or composite data), it
> also knows the creation date of the image and who created it. When I
> ask to save it I should be asked for some keywords to recall it by
> (from a list of keywords I have already used plus the ability to add
> more).
> 

Yeah, the keywords could just be the filenames.  But I can see
where that could be problematic if you had -thousands- of fairly
similar images.  Or you download a bunch of images from the web as
clipart or something, and they all have names like
'MnStblk_001.bmp'.

> 
> >>Third:  If we get away from interfaces which are based on a 'best representation' 
>of the
> >>system's internal structure, then I think we end up with a lack of uniformity 
>across
> >>applications, which is even worse for the user.
> 
> But your thinking carts before horses. The access to data should suit
> the users requirements, why should it be uniform? What about cultural
> and social differences between users. 
> 

This I have to disagree with.  If a user takes the time to learn
their way around one interface, I think it's undesirable to -not-
have that knowledge apply to other applications.

As it is, yes it can be frustrating learning Word or Excel for the
first time, but once you do you find the next app you learn much
easier to get the hang of.

I can go from my Amiga to a PC at work or a Mac somewhere, and sit
right down and run most apps, because they are uniform.  I think
it would be better to avoid losing that.

> >Here is where I disagree strongly.  You have identified a real need,
> >but in my opinion associated the wrong solution with it.  The right
> >solution is human interface standards.
> 

I agree with this as a solution.  Interface standards should be
established and agreed upon.  Just like JPeg format is an
established and agreed upon standard.

--
Joe Cosby

Amiga Fanatic

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Cosby)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: 14 Sep 1999 04:41:13 GMT

** To reply in e-mail, remove "fedbyn." from address **

Guy Macon hunched over his computer, typing feverishly;
thunder crashed, Guy Macon laughed madly, then wrote:
> 
> 
> We are already there as far as things we actually type into a computer.
> You can't do enough typing in your lifetime to fill one of today's
> larger disks.

But then people will just start downloading full movies in DVD or
something.

> Then again, at the present rate of growth, a "Hello World!"
> executable in Visual C++ will be over 20GB in 2021.

:^)

--
Joe Cosby

Amiga Fanatic

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From: "Edmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How to change /dev/cdrom definition?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:45:55 GMT

When I installed my Linux Mandrake 6.0, I only had an IDE CDROM.  And the
system configured the /dev/cdrom to my /dev/hdc.  Now, I purchased an CD
Writer and put it in /dev/hdc and moved the old CD ROM drive to /dev/hdd.
After the ide-scsi module is loaded, the device /dev/hdc becomes /dev/rsd0
and /dev/hdc is no longer accessible.  The definition of /dev/cdrom is not
correct in my system.  How do I change it to /dev/rsd0 or /dev/hdd?

Thanks,
Edmond



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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Favorite Editor?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:24:14 -0400

Richard Aleksandr wrote:

> I am looking for a full screen editor for Linux that doesn't suck.
> gnotepad+ is getting there but has bugs and sucks - for example, select
> another edited file tab and when you go back to the previous file your
> cursor has been reset to the beginning. Hey thanks!
> 
> I like theTextEdit shareware editor on Windows A LOT...

For refugees from Windows, I recommend nedit.  Nice clean interface,
lots of functionality.  Less powerful than emacs but a lot easier
to learn.  Motif-based, but very stable with the current Lesstif.
Good multiple-document handling; syntax highlighting for various
languages.  References and build guide at

http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/tutorial.html

-- 
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Ozarow)
Subject: Re: zImage
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:25:07 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Daniel P. Gelinske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Stephan wrote:
> 
> Installing a new kernel in a nutshell:
> 
> When you get a new kernel, and you untar the tar archive, you go into
> the linux directory it made (/usr/src/linux or something like
> /usr/src/linux-2.2.xx) and you type 'make menuconfig'  You go through
> the menu, see what you want your kernel to support, and make heavy use
> of the "help" option, and when you got what you want you are done with
> that step.  You exit menuconfig, and then you do a 'make dep'  after
> that is done, you can 'make zImage' and the zImage file will appear in
> the /usr/src/linux*/arch/i386/boot directory.  Then you can set it into
> the /boot directory (if your old kernel is also called zImage, you will
> want to move it to a new filename, ie zImage-2.2.2 for kernel version
> 2.2.2)  If your kernel is too big, you will want to "make bzImage"
> instead.  If the "make zImage" dont work because the kernel is too big,
> you can type "make bzImage" and it will compile fine.
> 
> And remember... if your kernel has a different name than the old kernel,
> you will want
> to edit lilo.conf to make it point to the new kernel.  After doing that
> run /sbin/lilo as root.
> 
> I dont know anything about first.hdimage, but I hope that I was of some
> help to you.
> 
> Dan
> 

This is very sound advice indeed, but simpler to say that every kernel
source tree since the high Renaissance has included a README file in
its toplevel directory which outlines step-by-step exactly what to do
to make zImage or bzImage (well, bzImage is a little more recent,
maybe since the French Revolution for that one).

Oz


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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot find libstc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
Date: 13 Sep 1999 15:48:30 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I am running Suse 6.0 distribution of Linux and wanted to install Code
> Crusader and Code Medic.
> The installation of Code Medic failed saying that one of the library
> was missing. The library is libstc++-libc6.1-1.so.2. I checked on my
It's available in the 'updates' section on their ftp server.  You
should grab the other updates while there too.
-ckm

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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: 13 Sep 1999 22:25:43 -0700

Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox) wrote:
> > How does what you expect enter into this?
> 
> From a legal standpoint, obviously it doesn't.
> 
> > Putting a law on the books means that whenever someone takes a fancy
> > to putting you in jail for breaking it, they probably will.
> 
> As I said.
> 
> > What you "expect" is of little importance.
> 
> To you and the law, perhaps, but not to me.
> 
> It's simple-I expect common sense to prevail. If I want to reverse
> engineer something and play with it I expect people to leave me alone;
> I'm not hurting anyone. If someone wants to put me in jail for that,
> fine, they can try. I will be civilly disobediant, and if that doesn't
> work, I'll be noisy about it.

What I'm still not understanding is what you mean when you say "I
expect" this and that.  It sounds like you aren't concerned about the
law because you don't expect that it will be enforced.  I'm concerned
about such a law, whether it makes common sense or not - especially if
it doesn't.
-- 
David Fox           http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf             xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab                                         baL ICH DSCU

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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:20:04 -0700


K. Bjarnason wrote in message ...
>In article <7rht6q$sun$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>   K. Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> -- snip --
>>
<trimmed>
>
>> Installing software is identically equivalent to using software?  In
>> your dreams.
>
>Your phrase was not "using software", it was "using your computer".
>Allow me to quote: "I was discussing *installing* software, which is
not
>the same as *using* a computer."
>
>If you can figure out how to install software *without* using a
>computer, please, let me know.  Until then, go away.
>

ROTFLOLHS

>See, don't you feel special now?  I even looked you up on Deja.
>



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From: K. Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:51:41 -0700

In article <7rhsh8$sgf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   K. Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [snips]
> >
> > In article <7rc0nk$2n8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> says...
> > > X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Sep 10 22:29:21 1999 GMT
> > > X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.61 [en] (WinNT; I)
> > > X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x29.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client
> 209.241.102.24
> > > X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDcbass2112
> > >
> >
> > > "It's your car. It's your fuel injection system. But don't you
> > > *dare* attempt to [install] it yourself, UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT THE
> > > F*CK YOU'RE DOING."
> > >
> >
> > > see what I emphasized with THREE ASTERISKS????
> >
> > Yes. "Dare" "fuck".  No thanks, you're not my type.
> 
> Another jerk who doesn't understand English . . .


I understand English just fine.  In the text you quoted to me, there 
were exactly two words surrounded by or containing asterisks, which you 
asked I direct my attention to.  Those words were "dare" and "fuck".

That you a) can't count, and b) can't keep track of your own statements, 
is not a problem of my comprehension.

Now, did you want to try again, or would you prefer to simply be left 
alone to play with the other kiddies?


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From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to change /dev/cdrom definition?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:36:43 GMT

Edmond wrote:
> 
> When I installed my Linux Mandrake 6.0, I only had an IDE CDROM.  And the
> system configured the /dev/cdrom to my /dev/hdc.  Now, I purchased an CD
> Writer and put it in /dev/hdc and moved the old CD ROM drive to /dev/hdd.
> After the ide-scsi module is loaded, the device /dev/hdc becomes /dev/rsd0
> and /dev/hdc is no longer accessible.  The definition of /dev/cdrom is not
> correct in my system.  How do I change it to /dev/rsd0 or /dev/hdd?

Hi,

/dev/cdrom is most probably only a symlink to /dev/hdc in your case. The
easiest way to check this is by

ls -l /dev/cdrom

and see where it is linked. All you have to do is to delete this link
and make another link to the appropriate device.

ln -s /dev/rsd0 /dev/cdrom

or

ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/cdrom

Vilmos

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