Linux-Misc Digest #814, Volume #18               Fri, 29 Jan 99 21:13:15 EST

Contents:
  Re: encrypted file system ("Norm Dresner")
  Re: Win98 has screwed up my dial-up networking (again!) ("Tom Emerson")
  Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Edwin Young)
  Re: (Symbolic) Links Again (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: New to Linux (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
  Bochs PC emulator (Mihai IACOB)
  Re: pine
  Re: Swap problems (RH 5.2) (Seth Van Oort)
  Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: UNIX - Who, What, Where? ("Bill W")
  Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Jason Clifford)
  Re: Removed NETEAR FA310TX- Wont work after putting it back in. (Oliver Jones)
  Re: linux help channel (Brian Moore)
  Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Leslie Mikesell)
  how to change the default fonts for linux? (GTGT)
  Re: Redhat 5.0: :X-window & pppd (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Network Printing Problem (L J Bayuk)
  Re: Shutdown (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Ken Pizzini)
  Re: partition problem ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: LILO problem with win98 (Redhat) (Bill Unruh)

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From: "Norm Dresner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: encrypted file system
Date: 29 Jan 1999 02:56:10 GMT

You need a password to get onto the machine (if it's set up properly), why
do you need to password-protect the files too?
Are you worried about other users seeing them?  Then create (or get your
sys-admin) to put you in a separate group.  
These suggestions may not be perfect, but I think it would be better than
        a) A non-standard system
        b) Another layer of software to fail
        c) Another layer of software to chew up the CPU bandwidth
Ans: All of the above

        Norm
        
Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> The next step to getting this Linux system the way I want it is to look
at
> encryption.
> 
> In the Windows world I use software called the Safe House Utilities. 
This
> consists of a large (several gb) file which mounts with password as a
drive
> letter, after which it acts as a directory tree transparently.  There are
> several utilities to mount, unmount, change passwords, defrag, etc.  It
> reminds me of Stacker without the compression.  
> 
> Where can I find a Linux equivalent?
> 
> 
> 
> Tim Hanson
> 

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From: "Tom Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win98 has screwed up my dial-up networking (again!)
Date: 29 Jan 1999 23:38:25 GMT

Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Eric Peterson wrote:
> > 
> > Hi All,
> >   I recently did a motherboard upgrade on my Win98 machine (Those ****
> > games just keep needing more power!)
> > Of course Win98 choked when I booted.  I was forced (as usual) to boot
from
> > my emergency floppy and reinstall Wincrap from scratch.  My upgraded
> > machine seems to work OK now, but there is one hitch.
> >   My linux machine, which is set up with diald and IP Masquerade, is
now
> > (once again!) dialing into my ISP at regular intervals.  I have checked
the
> > properties for Windows' TCP/IP networking, and they are the same as
before.
> >  I had already disabled Netbeui name server lookups as a diald trigger,
so
> > I doubt that is it.  I can't figure out why Windows is asking for
dialouts
> > again.
> >   The only other thing that might have changed is this:  Right after I
> > reinstalled Win98, I dialled in to Windows Update because I wanted to
> > reinstall a couple of patches for Windows.  I THINK (but I'm not sure)
that
> > there was a new patch on the site that I didn't have before.  I'm
wondering
> > if this could be the problem.
> >   Any help is appreciated.

It very likely is -- in fact, I'll tell you EXACTLY which "thing" you
loaded that is the culprit -- the "critical item update"!  This one sure is
insidious -- you can't delete it, at least, not by the usual "normal"
means...

[btw: I figured this out because I'm doing some video captures using 98; up
until a few days ago, captures were flawless; then suddenly I start getting
large blocks of "dropped frames" at seemingly random intervals -- then the
"critical item update" box popped up during a capture, and as they say, I
put two and two together...]

Here's the deal: on the "online updates" page is a pointer to install the
"critical item update" monitor (daemon).  It's not where the "normal"
patches and updates are listed, but rather in the column to the left, so
you're not likely to notice that you're installing it when you click on
"more info"...

Once installed, it places a PERMANENT task into the task scheduler [not
truly permanent, but other behaviour of the system makes it that way...] 
This task is scheduled "every 5 minutes".

1) if you DISABLE the task, on the next reboot it becomes re-enabled

2) if you DELETE the task, it asks if you "really want to place the item in
the wastebasket" [more later...]

2a) if you SHIFT-DELETE it to avoid the "place in wastebasket", it asks if
you "really want to place the item in the wastebasket" [like I said...] you
CANNOT select the option of flat-out deleting it...

3) you can then EMPTY THE WASTEBASKET to get rid of this item you
"deleted", BUT...

4) when you reboot, it places a new copy of the critical item update
monitor in your task scheduler, scheduled for every 5 minutes...

[so far the only solution has been to UNINSTALL the "feature"]

NOW, if you read the web-page for this item, you'll realize what/why your
linux system is dialing up every 5 minutes -- what this "daemon" is doing
is calling up microsoft's web site EVERY 5 MINUTES to "check if any new
CRITICAL updates have been posted" [talk about an effective way of
bolstering your hit count!]

Finally, for those who are still curious, microsoft feels that telling me
that a "new virtual [java] machine" is more "critical" than dropout-free
video captures...

> 
> I downloaded the fixpak for the y2k problem last week. I can no longer
get updates
> with the exploder since then. After install I saw the message "FAILED"
and a few
> seconds later it said that the install would complete after a reboot
which it
> did closing my internet connection which took 50 retries to get.
> 
> It should have said "The hozing of you exploder will be completed after a
reboot,
> whether you like or not, MORON!"
> 
> -- 
> Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
> Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
> http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
> We have software, food, music, news, search,
> history, electronics and genealogy pages.
> 

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
From: Edwin Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 29 Jan 1999 02:36:15 +0000

Mark Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> These are all very good points and they are all accounted for.  We are chosing
> to *add* linux because we are converting to Apache from Oracle Webserver.  It
> goes on that "lighter and tighter" saying.  Notice I stressed "add"?  We are
> keeping the Sun boxes (no reason to get rid of them) and since we are expanding
> we just decided to add linux boxes instead of purchasing more Ultra's.  The
> main reason driving this is cost.  Three of these 1GB RAM dual Xeon boxes is
> the cost of one Ultra.  And as a web server, each system should get similar
> performance (if not better) then an Ultra 2.  Also I think commiting to one
> product is risky in this business.  If you know that you have tried and tested
> two different platforms then if/when one dies or the other simply becomes more
> superior in time then it should be much easier to migrate.


OK, so it seems from the other responses to this thread that the video
card/ keyboard etc BIOS problems you mentioned do vary from one
machine to another, and are not endemic to all PCs. So surely the
solution is to specify to the vendor "these machines must have BIOSes
which do not suffer from limitations x, y or z". Presumably you are
already requiring Y2K-compliant BIOSes, so this isn't going to be a
major issue. You should in any case have less trouble with brand-new
boxes from a vendor used to manufacturing servers than from a generic
"home PC" setup. In general, it must be said that PCs are less happy
running "headless" than your average UNIX box, presumably because  
"but you can't run NT without a mouse!" is the prevailing attitude.

Another solution we've used, but perhaps you wouldn't like, is one
of those switching boxes which share one keybd/mouse/monitor between
a number of computers.

--
Edwin Young

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Subject: Re: (Symbolic) Links Again
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 29 Jan 1999 18:55:04 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) writes:

>       That's how it works. Files are NAMELESS. Their properties (owner,
> type, permission, contents, timestamps) belong to *file*, not the directory
> entry (record in another file). Symlinks are special files with, erm,
> lookup macros (see examples above). BTW, you may open the file and delete
> all references to it. It will stay alive until you'll close it. It will be
> unreachable from namespace, so what? Removing files is a form of garbage
> collection - when nobody uses file and there is no way to get new users
> kernel may destroy the file as unneeded. That's it. rm (or unlink) only
> deletes the reference.

is this usable for making temporary files?  say i need a temporary
file.  if i create a file, unlink it and keep using the file
descriptor to this orphaned file, i have a file which is inaccessible
to the outside world.  for security reasons, i would like to skip the
step of having any userspace visible pathname and go directly to the
anonymous file with handle.  is this possible?

-- 
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,at.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: New to Linux
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:23:40 -0600

Gaea wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm about to install RedHat 5.2 on my p2 450 computer. Is there anything I
> need to know before I install it? I have a 14.4GB HD and I'm going to put
> Linux on a seprate partion. I would also like to know how do I boot between
> 2 Operating Systems. Can Windows 98 and Linux coexist?
> 
> BTW, Is this OS easy to learn?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -Linda

Try to create a partition that starts below the 1024th cylinder, that
way you can use LILO (LInux LOader) as your "Boot Commander" to dual
boot and choose between the two OS's.  If you can't get below the 1024th
cylinder then you may have to create a boot diskette and boot from it
when you want to run Linux.
Jerry

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From: Mihai IACOB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bochs PC emulator
Date: 30 Jan 1999 01:58:08 +0200

I installed Bochs on my linux and it works. I managed to
install DOS and it works. The problem is that sometimes the
programs do not get the keys I press. I mean I couldn't
install win 95 because I was unable to enter the serial
number. Some simple DOS programs work fine, but other
(Norton Commander, for example) don't.

Sincerely yours,
  Mihai IACOB

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: pine
Date: 30 Jan 1999 00:37:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Haaino Beljaars ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,

: I am currently trying to configure pine in such a way that it can read
: the nntp news server. This newsgroup machine is not located on the same
: machine I
: am running pine on. For this reason I have put the line
: nntp-server=news.telekabel.nl in my /usr/lib/pine.conf . But when I try
: to fetch any news group pine response with:'no groups to select from'.
: Same response I get when I use 'tin'. But netscape retreives the
: newsgroups perfectly. What have I done wrong? Did I forget anything? If
: so, what? Please help me.

Tin looks for a file: /etc/nntpserver and, if it finds it, reads the
contents as the server - don't know about pine, tho.

So, my /etc/nntpserver has only one line:
newsserver.my.isp

You might try that.......

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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Swap problems (RH 5.2)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:42:25 +0000

see the reply from me and Juergen Heinzl to the thread 
"swapon -s returning error"

Seth

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: 28 Jan 1999 21:57:18 -0600

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Ramos  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> The feature of *requiring* video card is every bit as much "fluff."
>>
>> If you want to have a real reliable server system, one of the things you
>> want to do is to take out unnecessary components that could break.
>> Video support is one such thing.
>>
>
>Exactly.  There is apparently a number of folks in this discussion that have
>never been in this type of environment to know what we are talking about.

Does that mean you know well enough to quote MTBF expectancies for
video cards?  I've seen hundreds of broken computers and while there
were some video cards that output bad signals among them, I can't
recall ever seeing a video card problem that took the machine down
at least after the initial burn-in.

  Les Mikesell
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Bill W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: UNIX - Who, What, Where?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:45:47 -0600

That's a very good answer Mr. Browne.  Also consider that one of the reasons
for Unix's popularity is ITS cost.   Compare the cost of say, a 500-user NT
license to that of UNIX and there is no contest.

Unix was originally intended to be "platform-independent".  The idea was
that if you had a C-Compiler for your machine you could put Unix on it.
However, the programmers of the 60's couldn't possibly envision where we
would be today.  So there ended up being several different "flavors" of
UNIX.  It's hard to call them different "versions" because they are so
similar.  For example, every version of UNIX (and Linux) has the 'vi'
editor.  Some don't come with Emacs, but you can most likely get it (and for
free.)
  So is there a "standard" UNIX?  Well, couldn't you say that every Unix is
pretty much "standard"?  Some have different features, but these are usually
addons---all the different shells comes to mind.
    I agree that the more important question is "Does this do what I need
(or want) to do?"


Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:13cs2.892$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>On 19 Jan 1999 18:14:52 -0500, Alexander Viro



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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:00:57 +0000

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Anahata wrote:

> True.  Including having to run Word Perfect (in one case I know) or
> Lotus 123 (in another) in order to do simple operations like copy or
> delete a file, because that's the only way they knew how to do it.

So? If the functionality is present in the application is allows the user
to perform such tasks in their normal environment.

Such requirements only come about however due to incompetant system
administrators/support staff. If those systems had been set up properly a
menu would have existed with options for those tasks so that user need not
use 123 or wp for them.

Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/


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From: Oliver Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Removed NETEAR FA310TX- Wont work after putting it back in.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:59:33 -0500

burk wrote:

> I recently read on another newsgroup that the newer FA310TX's no longer
> use the DEC tulip chip set and give Linux fits. Anybody else hear this?

Yes, Netgear dropped the DEC tulip chip and switched to LITE-ON, the second
source, when DEC sold their fab to Intel.

I've handled a bunch of these LITE-ON cards; most of them perform just fine
but one (out of about ten) died.

You need the tulip.c driver with this dmesg signature:

   tulip.c:v0.89F 5/12/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Source Is On The Diskette In The Box!  (Thanks, Bay!)



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Moore)
Subject: Re: linux help channel
Date: 29 Jan 1999 16:57:50 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>My experience with most irc channels is that most people
>get on there and sit and bullshit most of the time and 
>DAMNED FEW questions ever get answered. Either that or you
>get treated like a complete embicile, or you get ignored,
>or you get insulted.
>
>I've seen damned few help channels on irc used the way 
>they are supposed to be used.


I second that sentiment.  Last summer I was cracked by someone who
was running an irc bot.  I killed the bot (and cleaned up the cron
entries that kept starting it), but the bot left a log file.  The
log file showed who had come and gone on the channel.  One of them
was a name that was the same as a *new* user account on my machine.
So I get on irc, and this nick is still there, in the same channel.

I made the mistake of getting on #irchelp to ask around if there was
some way I could try and get any more information on the person.
Their first response was insults (serves me right if I was cracked),
then treated like an imbecile--one nice sounding person said
something like "well, if I could just get root access to your system
I could help you."  Yeah, right.

So I just gave up, reinstalled everything from scratch and forgot
about it.



-- 

Brian G. Moore, School of Science, Penn State Erie--The Behrend College
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , (814)-898-6334

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: 28 Jan 1999 21:49:42 -0600

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Ramos  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The point is not the money spent on a $10 video card.  But it kind of looks
>funny in an environment that, say are all Sun boxes and none of them have
>keyboards/mice dangling and can be built/configured, etc. without any special
>"work-arounds".   Now we have this lowly PC that is the only one with a video
>card.  Why? because it will beep at you when you take it out.

You don't need a monitor attached.  The card is cheap and not visible.
The equivalent "rack-O-PC's" Intel server environment will have a single
keyboard and monitor with a switchbox to connect the necessary number
of boxes.  If you add up the prices you still come out ahead.

>And why is this
>the only system with a keyboard?  Well because when you turn it on without a
>keyboard it asks you to press "F1 to continue".

Most PC's can be configured to ignore the missing keyboard if you don't
want to spring for a switch.

>Hmm.  Well can I stick a
>console to it and bypass that?  nope.  Maybe stick that $10 video card in there
>temporarily to press F1 then take it out!  Doesn't sound like a good solution
>to me does it?

Yes it is a good solution compared to paying thousands more for a different
box with equivalent functionality and a requirement for support contracts
to get OS version upgrades later.

  Les Mikesell
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: GTGT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to change the default fonts for linux?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:12:08 -0800

because the fonts in netscape and xterm is so small....

thanks in advance

please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or group.

GTGT

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Redhat 5.0: :X-window & pppd
Date: 30 Jan 1999 01:41:41 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Tse) writes:

> 1.    I have installed Linux 5.0 in my box. Also I have already to
>configure X during setup. During installation PCI probing found X
>Server :SVGA
>then I also choose the type  of my monitor, set the frequency and auto
>probing also probe my chipset etc. However when I enter startx under
>root, the error message is as follows:

>xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2) no server " X" in path

Check to see if the file /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA (I think it is)
exists and has read exacute priviledges for everyone. 
Check that /etc/X11/X is a link pointing to that file.


>2.    During the installaiton I have install the package about
>networking  and choose all the services running during boot up the
>kernel. However, when I enter " dmesg | grep -i ppp " . I cannot see
>the message about the version of pppd. Is the pppd running in my Linux

pppd is NOT run until you need it. It is a module. You must however make
sure tht you ARE running kerneld.
This is what loads in the ppp modules when needed.

>box.?  If no,  how can I execute the pppd?

Try typing /usr/sbin/pppd
if you get a bunch of garbage, you have pppd. If you get "kernel does
not have pppd" it means that you are not running kerneld.
(It seems that that error message is a generic one which is used
whenever anything goes wrong. It seems to bear no relation to what is
actually wrong)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Subject: Re: Network Printing Problem
Date: 30 Jan 1999 01:41:28 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'm trying to configure my machine to use a network printer and am
>having no success with lpr.  I've set up /etc/printcap to use either a
>print server on a FreeBSD machine or to use the network printer directly
>but neither method works.  My /etc/printcap looks like
>
>##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE
>lp1|hp4000text:\
>        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp1:\
>        :mx#0:\
>        :lf=/dev/console:\
>        :lp=/dev/null:\
>        :sh:\
>        :rm=print.server.name.here:\
>        :rp=hp4000text:
>
>Every time I try to print I get this message:
>
>lpr: connect: Connection refused
>jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
>
>The jobs get listed in my local print queue.  There is no network
>traffic when I run lpr; however, there is traffic when I run lpq or
>lprm.  Also, printing DOES work when I use rlpr and it's associated
>tools.  Anyone have an idea what might be going on with lpr/lpd?

Is lpd running on your local system? (Check with ps ax, also netstat -a
should show *.printer listening, and a Unix Domain socket /dev/printer).
It sounds like either lpd isn't running, or it is but lpr can't contact
it via its sockets. (Lpr needs lpd on the local system; rlpr does not.)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Shutdown
Date: 30 Jan 1999 01:46:10 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cory Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>The problem is, I log into the system with my user account, but when I'm
>done
>I have to login as root to execute the shutdown command.  When I try the
>shutdown
>command from my user account, I get a message stating that the command
>is only
>available to root.  I checked the execute permissions of the


Alt-Contol-Delete will run shutdown for you (shutdown -r in particular--
you can change the behaviour in /etc/inittab) It can be done as a user,
unless you forbid it in one of the /etc files.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Pizzini)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 29 Jan 1999 23:38:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:42:10 -0000,
Paul Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Do a scout around in Bugtraq archives or at http://www.insecure.org for
>OpenBSD and then you might agree that http://www.openbsd.org might be
>a sensible place to visit if you want free 'nix with decent security.

(Weren't we just comparing FreeBSD to Linux?  Whatever...)

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

I'm not prepared to contest your claim that OpenBSD has better
security that other flavors of *nix, but a lack of bug reports
is not sufficient evidence to support this position --- a lack
of reports could just as easily be due to a lack of reporting
as a lack of things to report.  

Also, speaking without doing my homework here (but hey, this
is Usenet): if you subtract bug reports that can be strongly
attributed to flakey hardware that OpenBSD flat-out doesn't
support, and likewise for software that hasn't been ported to
OpenBSD, then how discrepant are the security bug report levels
for the various *nix?


>Incidentally the argument about which unix is best is always subjective
>and normally futile. Basically, it depends on what you want, how you'll
>use it, and whether there is support for your hardware.

Agreed.

                --Ken Pizzini

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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partition problem
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:42:41 -0500

There's _probably_ nothing wrong with your partition table, only that fdisk
is
confused.

This seems to be both an fdisk and kernel (2.0.36) problem, when you have
more
than 16 heads _and_ more than 1024 cylinders (with Linux extending beyond
1024),  which is a typical situation with LBA on large disks.  It appears to
have
been at least partly fixed with kernel 2.2.0 but fdisk is still flaky.

You can usually go into 'expert' mode on fdisk, change the cylinders to the
correct
value, and return to normal mode.  Then fdisk won't complain, but it's not a
permanent
fix and you'll have to do the same thing everytime you run fdisk, even if
you rewrite the
partition table.  And fdisk will probably still complain about overlapping
partitions when
you ask it to 'verify'.

The above is based on my own experience with RH5.2, a 10Gb drive, and a
bios with LBA enabled.

The following HOWTO provides more detail:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk.html

Regards,
Charles Sullivan


Juhani Vanhala wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>I have installed Linux on my second HD (8.4Gb Western Digital) On my
>first HD I had Win NT and DOS. I left about 2.3 Gb unpartitioned space
>to /dev/hdb when I installed Linux, because I was not sure if I was
>going to need it for Win NT or for Linux.
>
>Some days ago I found some use for that space and partitioned it with
>Win NT and formatted to FAT. Everythig seemed to go smoothly and I was
>able to copy ~2Gb of data to this new partition without problems. Today
>I decided to mount that partiton to linux side too, and I used fdisk to
>check which logical partition it was. To my surprize, fdisk found a
>problem in mu partition table:
>
>==============================================================
>Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1024 cylinders
>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
>   Device Boot    Start      End   Blocks   Id  System
>/dev/hdb1             1       17   136521   83  Linux native
>/dev/hdb2            18     1027  8112825    5  Extended
>Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
>     phys=(1023, 254, 63) logical=(1026, 254, 63)
>/dev/hdb5            18      527  4096543+  83  Linux native
>/dev/hdb6           528      719  1542208+  83  Linux native
>/dev/hdb7           720      735   128488+  82  Linux swap
>/dev/hdb8           736     1027  2345458+   6  DOS 16-bit >=32M
>=================================================================
>
>Apparently Linux fdisk and Win NT has somewhat different opinnion about
>the disk size. Is this a real problem and should I try to fix it
>somehow. If so, which tool should I use?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Juhani



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: LILO problem with win98 (Redhat)
Date: 30 Jan 1999 01:51:42 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christoffer Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:

>> boot=3D/dev/hda
>> map=3D/boot/map
>> prompt
>> timeout=3D50
>> image=3D/boot/vmlinuz
>>         label=3Dlinux
>>         root=3D/dev/hda5
>>         read-only
>> other=3D/dev/hda1
>>         label=3Dwin98
>>         table=3D/dev/hda
>> =

What are all those 3D up there? Try removing them all.

And what is tht final equals sign?


>> Thanks a lot in advance. It has been bugging me many nights now ... :(
>> =

>> P.S. When I run fdisk in Linux, it reports "unknown" type for my win98
>> partition, will this have anything with this problem??

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