Linux-Misc Digest #814, Volume #19 Sun, 11 Apr 99 16:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Andrew Comech)
Re: Installing Linux with Win95/8 ("Graeme Fenwick")
Re: limiting su via time?? (Ludi Young)
RPMs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: X-CD-Roast Problem (Tonny Sejr Kromann)
Re: need help selecting a college for C / Unix (Eric)
Why does root overwrite write only files? (Harry Rarig)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11 Apr 1999 14:48:49 -0500
On 11 Apr 1999 08:14:14 -0700, Fred Flatstone wrote:
>John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Andrew Comech wrote:
>> > On 08 Apr 1999 14:45:41 -0400, Johan Kullstam wrote:
>> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (who?) writes:
>> > >not if you're from a commonwealth country - which includes new zealand
>> > >(where is the old zealand btw?). in *english* (as opposed to american
>> > >english) redhat is a group entity and considered plural. therefore,
>> > >redhat do.
>>
>> > If you were to say "redHat sucks", you'd say "redHat sucks", though.
>>
>> And if I wanted to say "you're a funny lad with cheese in
>> your nose" I'd say "you're a funny lad with cheese in your
>> nose." Your point?
>
>I thought his point was that "redHat sucks" would refer to a sucky
>distribution (singular), not a sucky company of people (plural
>in British). We all know the Red Hat guys don't suck. (The brims
>get in the way.)
Right, that's exactly the way the things are! English language
allows to give distinct characteristics to the group of people and to
the distribution which are referred to with the same name; I should have
noticed it myself. You filled it with sense to the brim. It is such a
pleasure to speak to literate people; thank you Fred!
Best,
Andrew
--
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Expect to pay below $50.
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From: "Graeme Fenwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux with Win95/8
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:00:15 GMT
David Martin wrote in message <7efiu6$rm1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <S8HO2.56726$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Graeme Fenwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I've wanted to install Linux on my PC for a while now, and I figured that
I
>> should actually get round to doing it at some point...
>> [snip] the real trouble is that I
>> don't have any way of backing up any of this data if the whole thing goes
>> wrong. Any thoughts?
>
>For a first attempt, I would strongly reccommend that you acquire another
>hard drive of a suitable size and install Linux on that. Boot into it with
>LoadLin from the Win95 disk.
That's an interesting idea... I might try getting my grubby paws on a
secondhand hard drive (doesn't have to be that big anyway), and see how
things work out. Only snag is my hardware knowledge not being as good as it
could be, but I guess that could be part of the learning experience. Just so
long as I don't fry my Pentium with static ;-)
>This allows you to get a full Linux install without messing about with the
>Master Boot Record. Great for sorting things out and working out how it all
>goes together.
>
>I'd reckon you'd be fine with the SUSE 5.2 cover disk (PCPlus I presume?)
Yep. Bought it on a spur of the moment (I wouldn't spend �5 on a magazine
unless it came with some nice software, normally), and it's been gathering
dust for 6 months.
>for
>starters. If you like what you see then upgrading to later versions of
>everything can be done by spending good money on SuSE 6.0 (or 6.1 if you
want
>to wait a moment or two).
>There maybe an upgrade possibility in the 6.0 install.. I think YaST can
handle
>it but someone else will fill you in on this.
6.1'll be out by the time I get round to it anyway, most likely...
>
>every distro has its own peculiarities. I want to try the new Debian one
>primarily because of the document processing tools it comes with. I am just
>waiting for the chance to buy a new machine to put it on.
You buy a new machine for every distribution you want to try out?!
Sheesh!... :-)
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Graeme Fenwick
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From: Ludi Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.admin.isp
Subject: Re: limiting su via time??
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:11:29 +0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is ther a way to limit when a user(s) can use su??? Basicly there too many
> damn people at night (1am -4am) screwing up the system. So I want a time
> limit on when they can su..
>
> --
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Yes, just change the permission of your su
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RPMs
Date: 11 Apr 1999 19:13:53 GMT
I'm having trouble installing the MySql RPM. The first time I tried to
install it with
rpm -i file.rpm it failed
then i tried rpm -e file.rpm to uninstall it, but it says it isn't
installed. And when I try to install again it says it can't install
because it's already installed. What can I do?
Thanks
Ollie
---- INFO ----
[root@earth /root]# rpm -i MySQL-3.22.21-1.i386.rpm
package MySQL-3.22.21-1 is already installed
error: MySQL-3.22.21-1.i386.rpm cannot be installed
[root@earth /root]# rpm -e MySQL-3.22.21-1.i386.rpm
package MySQL-3.22.21-1.i386.rpm is not installed
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From: Tonny Sejr Kromann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X-CD-Roast Problem
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:43:25 +0000
Steve wrote:
> However, after writing the CD (which takes some time, and the 'Record'
> LED flashes, so I assume that something is being written to the disk) I
> get an error message to the effect that 'Some error occured'. This
> message is displayed only when the 'fixating disk' operation is
> happening. The writing phase then stops, and I now have five extra
> coasters.
First time I'd make sure that the size to burn is well below 650MB. Is it?
--
Tonny
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: need help selecting a college for C / Unix
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:46:37 -0700
Gary Krupa wrote:
> I live in Ventura, in the Southern California area. Would someone
> offer advice or information on what would be a good college in this
> area to attend for training in C and a Unix-related curriculum?
> That's what I'd really like to be doing: programming in C and
> working as a system administrator, preferably in a linux
> environment.
>
> Or, is there a list or review of such colleges that I can look at?
> Right now I'm leaning towards attending a local community college.
>
> My educational objective is otherwise to obtain a two-year degree.
> Funds are somewhat limited.
>
> I'd be grateful for any (decent) advice offered.
>
> GK
Hell, screw a good school. You got all your lowers yet? If not, hit
any community college and take all of the CS stuff. Unless you like
math though, stick with General studies, then you can take what you
want. If you take a real CS degree you will be roped into taking crap
like discrete math (ten years working in IT, and I have yet to see the
point of discrete math), calculus and other useless stuff. Most
community colleges have some sort of Unix cert program, usually 12 hours
and SUN based. The important things here are: Get 60 semester hours of
lower credits (clep tests, basket weaving, whatever just get 60), get
Linux or freebsd or Solaris x86 at home and learn it on your own, and
get a job as a basic computer operator (this will invariably be in a
'nix environment). Then sign up at your local pay per degree cheeseball
adult university (University of Phoenix and Western International both
have campuses in CA) to get a BS (literally) in Information Systems.
You will learn far more as a operator and using the stuff at home than
you will at a traditional four year university. Plus, understand that
no one really gives a rat's ass where you got your 4 year, just that you
know what you are doing. Like the MCSE, a 4 year is good for nothing
but impressing the HR retards, and salary. Money shouldn't be an issue,
there are a billion handouts for college. I for one would much rather
see you take my tax dollars to go to school, than watch the government
spend them on clean needles for heroin addicts to stop the spread of
aids (I always thought of this as a self resolving problem anyway).
Talk to the counselors at any school you go to, they will be more than
happy to help you with financial aid. Good luck!
Eric
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From: Harry Rarig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Why does root overwrite write only files?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:45:03 -0400
I am running linux 2.0.36 with both the Slackware 3.5 and RedHat 5.2
distributions. In both distributions, if the file permissions of a file
owned by root are changed to "read-only", root can still write to the
file without the OS complaining. Is there another shell parameter which
must be set to prevent root from writing to a read-only file? I would
like to use this capablility to prevent a shell script running with root
privilege from inadvertantly clobbering my write protected files.
The "noclobber" option pervents a total overwrite, but does not prevent
a program from appending to a write-protected file. Solaris 2.5 behaves
as expected on this front, and this capbability has saved me in the past
from doing nasty things to my write protected files in a moment of
weakness.
Any way of activating this feature in Linux???
much tnx,
Harry Rarig
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