Linux-Misc Digest #814, Volume #25 Wed, 20 Sep 00 08:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: zip-drive problems (Christian Verbeek)
rar problems (Christian Verbeek)
strange effect when killing a process trying to view /proc/kcore ("O. Mayer")
Re: X-windows newbie question (Anita Lewis)
Help: Kernel hang/coredump analysis (Liaw Yong Shyang)
Re: It would seem that Redhat is a bit of a bugger! (Charles Samuels)
Re: which editor should I learn VI or EMACS (Charles Samuels)
What's to do with too much RAM? (Georg Woeste)
Re: HP 693 Problems (Anita Lewis)
Re: Suse 6.4 / 7.0 (muzh)
Re: How do i screengrab (Carl Fink)
Re: gnapster 1.3.5 (Michael Perry)
Re: Module Problems (ray)
Re: What's to do with too much RAM? (Andreas K�h�ri)
Re: startx problem with the normal user (Josef Oswald)
Re: virus found after a fresh installation (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: Can't install LILO when Linux > 8 GB limit with PC with BIOS restriction
(Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: Help: Kernel hang/coredump analysis (Andreas K�h�ri)
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From: Christian Verbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: zip-drive problems
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:46:15 GMT
> I suspect, the file wasn't on any of the zip discs, but in the mount
> directory /zip itself. Maybe you should have tried
> umount /zip
> ls /zip
> to see, if the file was copied into the directory itself, when no zip
> was mounted.
oh no, that would be to stupid. of course it was not in the /zip=20
directory, but only on the first zip-disk. i played around with the fsta=
b=20
entry and removed the chmod=3D0777 stuff. i am not sure, but it think it=
=20
works now. yeah, i just tried it again. it works fine now. the fstab=20
entry came from the zip-drive-howto so i did not really think about it. =
whats wrong with chmod=3D0777. can anybody tell me?
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From: Christian Verbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rar problems
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:49:20 GMT
dear newgroup,
i splitted a 200mb tar-file with rar on two zip-disks. now i want to=20
restore the file. but unrar on just produces an error message, when=20
finished with the first rar-file and does not ask for the second .r00=20
file. i put the swith -v , but this does not help.=20
whats the trick?
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From: "O. Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: strange effect when killing a process trying to view /proc/kcore
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:17:33 +0100
Hello everybody.
Being a curious being, I tried to watch the content of
/proc/kcore using Midnight Commanders view-command
(f3). That caused MC not to react to the keyboard anymore
nor to come with any output / result so I had to log in with
another session to kill the process running MC. What's
strange about this is that, after killing this process without
any problems, the memory usage droped back from about
360M to 96M. Can anybody of you explain this behaviour?
The system is Red Hat 6.2 on a 4-processor i686 (Kernel
2.2.14-5.0smp) mainly running apache with PHP and mySQL.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
Oliver
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X-windows newbie question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:42:03 GMT
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:08:51 -0700, Patton Echols wrote:
>
>I'm using RH 6.1. I managed to find WindowMaker on the CD and RPM'd
>it. Managed to get it to run as well. (By creating a .xinitrc for
>individual user, if I can get it looking like I want i'll make it
>system wide) Frankly it is butt ugly. I have found the configuration
>tool, but it is far from easy and I can't figure out how to get the
>icons to look like something besides a bruise. Tonight I am headed back
>to the documentation for another go, but if it gets no better than this,
>I'll stick to enlightenment, slow or not.
>
>As an aside, how do the menus know what programs are installed? Some
>config file? Do I need to maintain that file?
You might look into icewm if you find WM ugly. Icewm is easy to configure
too. It also is compatible with most Gnome and KDE programs. I run it with
kfm which overlays icons for me and gives a nice filemanager. I also run
konsole on it which can be configured right from the window itself.
Ice has a toolbar at the bottom where you can put things you start
frequently. There is a easy to understand guide in html in
/usr/doc/ice-<version-number>/ once you have it installed. I believe I
found the link to the site and rpm for it at www.freshmeat.net. It will
also be at the site already given to you. It's small and fast loading too,
btw. You start it with something like this simple .Xclients. You can see
where I did have xterm and xscreensaver going, but have commented them out
for now.
# run profile to set $PATH and other env vars correctly
. $HOME/.bash_profile
# setup background
xsetroot -solid '#056'
## setup mouse acceleration
#xset m 7 2
# run initial programs
#xterm -sb &
#xscreensaver &
kfm &
konsole &
xset dpms 100 100 100
# start icewm, and run xterm if it crashes (just to be safe)
exec icewm || exec xterm -fg red
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From: Liaw Yong Shyang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Help: Kernel hang/coredump analysis
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:35:03 +0800
Hi,
I have midified and recompiled the Linux kernel for my project. I can
reboot from my new kernel image successfully, and it works happily.
However, the system will hang from time to time. How can I debug, as I
could not repeat the bug at my will?? Is it any tool that I can use to
analyse coredump? Any book or article I can read more about coredump
analysis?
I really appreciate if you can help. Thank in advance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Samuels)
Subject: Re: It would seem that Redhat is a bit of a bugger!
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:46:14 GMT
Pal, they're all buggers in one way or another. I've tried several different
distros and if left to their own devices when allowed to automatically
install, they'll foul up in one way or another. I've pretty much decided the
best way to start with these things is to first know your hardware--will the
linux distro support it, then use the "text" method to install the distro.
This approach is nothing new, it is preached by those who know constantly. If
new people (of which I am one) follow this method, there will be less queries
to this, and other NGs.
Another biggie (again hardware) is the modem--particularly the winmodem. I
have read that some of these are supported in some fashion, however, if folks
would just get a conventional modem (jumpers), set it for comm port 4, IRQ 3,
install it in place of the winmodem, their problems should be minimized with
getting on line.
I don't necessarily subscribe to the "RTFM" mode of thinking by certain
respondents to these queries. Many "newbies" (I sometimes choke on that vogue
word) don't understand, comprehend, are overwhelmed, etc., by linux and RTFM
by some of the self-styled pioneer elitists is not the answer for these people
and will alienate them from linux in time.
I'll probably get "flamed" for this reply/post but there is no virginity lost
there. Many "newbies" who have struggled thru linux will agree with me, I
think.
As far as RedHat catching the most flak from folks, it probably has to do with
it being one of the most used distros, along with its upperclass relative
Linux-Mandrake. I started out with RH 5.2, it is a good distro, I'm still
learning from it. But, then again, I'm using older hardware which suits both
me and RH 5.2.
I hope the above discourse is not going to be considered rambling, I hadn't
intended it to be; nor is it to be considered an indirect flame at anyone who
may take exception to what I've written. If anyone has taken offense, I
apologize.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Darren Keirle"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Reading through this newgroup all i can see is people having problems with
>redhat!
> Could this be that the over commercialized Distro is only made to run on
>its developers pcs, and any other specced pc is not fit!
> I would seriously turn people away if they were thinking of getting
>redhat, as it is not too good at all! and Riddled with buggs!
>
>Dazman
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Samuels)
Subject: Re: which editor should I learn VI or EMACS
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:52:19 GMT
It depends on what you're going to do with the editor. If it is for minor
changes in text documants, do you really need a large editor, full of doo-dads
that are not required. Maybe you could look at pico, jed or joe for your real
needs. Another editor would be nano, which has to be downloaded and installed
and is related to pico in the way it works--that is what I have read.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Ratcliff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Learn vi then use the vi emulation mode, viper, in Emacs to gain access
>to
>the some of the nicer Emacs features like the JDE (Java development
>environment).
>That way you'll never be without an editor and you can easily gain
>access to what you need
>at a given time. (Plus I think that the emacs key bindings are a little
>too verbose and cumbersome.)
>
>Of course this is JMHO.
>
>Rob
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> which editor should I learn VI or EMACS
>>
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Before you buy.
>
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From: Georg Woeste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: What's to do with too much RAM?
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:55:56 +0200
Hi everyone,
I have a Sony Vaio Notebook with 96 MB of RAM. Because
of the TX-Chips, only 64 MB can be addressed by the Cache.
Now my questions:
1)Is it usefull, to restrict Linux (SuSE) to only 64 MB?
(The Computer seems to be a little bit slow)
2) If I restrict it, can I do something useful with the remaining
32 MB?
Thank you!
Regards,
Georg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HP 693 Problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:02:24 GMT
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 23:16:18 -0500, Timothy J. Miller wrote:
>Wondering if anyone out there has "successfully" configured the HP 693c
>Color InkJet
>printer under Linux. If so, how.
>I have it working, sporadically. It will print some pages and then all
>of a sudden just start spitting out
>garabage. Any ideas?
>
>I am running Redhat 6.2 and have it setup under printtool as an HP
>Deskjet 550C (UP) on /dev/lp0
>
>- Thanks
>- Tim
>
These are the links I have on HP Printers. I don't see Inkjet listed there,
but there are a couple of links on the site for asking questions. Maybe you
can get some help there if you don't here.
http://hp-linux.cern.ch/support/devprint.php3
Office Jet
http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/
Anita
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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suse 6.4 / 7.0
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 22:17:59 +1200
Try the 6.4 evaluation version from
ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/evaluation-6.4
This should be able to fit on one cd. It is not crippled in any way; it
just has fewer packages than the full version.
Dan Chirica wrote:
>
> Does anybody know a place where I can download Suse 6.4 or 7.0
>
> I tried suse's home site, but all I could find was the whole thing which
> is over 3Gb in size.
>
> What I want is something that will fit on one CD-ROM.
>
> Thanks to all of you.
> Dan
--
Never trust a man in a suit --
cll
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: How do i screengrab
Date: 20 Sep 2000 03:04:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:52:46 +1200 David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How do i screengrab with red hat 6.2
Well, try "man xv".
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: gnapster 1.3.5
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:34:27 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:54:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>My Gnapster 1.3.5 has been disfunctional for about a month. I know that
>Windows Napster users are having no problems. My Gnapster keeps "Finding
>best host" forever. It used to function perfectly before. Probably,
>there was some change in Napster servers, so the native Napster could
>handle it, while Gnapster couldn't.
>
>I'd like to know what other Linux users are using instead of Gnapster
>now.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Wroot
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
Actually, my gnapster seemed to have network problems for awhile. It just
said disconnected all the time. I did an apt-get for the helixcode stuff
and got a new gnapster which fixed it.
Love that apt-get :)
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Module Problems
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:36:10 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm new to the linux environment. I'm running Red Hat 6.0 and I'm trying to
> get it to recognize my network card. I found the module for my card and
> used the command 'insmod /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/net/3c509.o'. I set up all
> of my network settings and everything works fine. When I restart the
> computer, I have to type the insmod command again to get it back going.
> Once that command is issued, shouldn't it stay in the kernel even after I
> reboot? I basically want to set up my system so that I don't have to add
> the module every time. Does anybody have any suggestions? Any help is
> greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks
> -Obanion
No, it shouldn't. None of the drivers survive a reboot, unless steps are
taken to insure that.
Try this:
As root, use an editor to add this line in /etc/modules.conf
alias eth0 3c509
Also, remember that /etc/rc.d/rc.local is a sort of system-wide autoexec.bat
that allows commands
to be run at boot time, after all other processes have completed.
--
Ray R. Jones
Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP://gordo.penguinpowered.com
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: What's to do with too much RAM?
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Sep 2000 13:38:29 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Georg Woeste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>I have a Sony Vaio Notebook with 96 MB of RAM. Because
>of the TX-Chips, only 64 MB can be addressed by the Cache.
>Now my questions:
>
>1)Is it usefull, to restrict Linux (SuSE) to only 64 MB?
>(The Computer seems to be a little bit slow)
>
No.
>2) If I restrict it, can I do something useful with the remaining
>32 MB?
No, you restricted it.
The Linux Hardware HOWTO says:
5. Memory
All memory like DRAM, EDO and SDRAM can be used with Linux.
There is one thing you have to look at: normally the kernel is
not supporting more than 64 Mb of memory. When you add more
than 64 Mb of memory you have to add the following line to
your LILO configuration file.
append="mem=<number of Mb>M"
So, when you have 96 Mb of memory this should become
append="mem=96M"
Don't type a number higher than the number Mb you really have.
This can present unpredictable crashes.
Try it.
/A
--
Andreas K�h�ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>. Junk mail, no.
========================================================================
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Subject: Re: startx problem with the normal user
From: Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:48:14 GMT
Hi:-)
I had a similar problem under SuSE, 6.2 ; here is what I had to do:
look for a file: .xserverrc ( or xserverrc.secure) and copy it into
the home directories of the users. _Rename_ it into .xserverrc.
You need to use vi to check if at the very end you find
exec Xwrapper ?dspnum ?args
( ? stand f�r the S with two verticals | at the top and at the bottom
I can't type it with my Keyboard)
Other then this I would not know more :-( ( newbie myself too:-))
"Chakravarthy Sannedhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We at UAB are using Redhat linux for a particular project on VoIP. We got a
> problem with the console permissions. X is working only with the root and
> when i try to run with my user name it is displaying
> *Perhaps you do not have console ownership?*,
> and it is prompting for some command!
> I tried the following 3 things to get around this problem.
> 1. Added the following line in the /etc/pam.d/xserver
> *account required /lib/security/pam_permit.so* to the existing lines.
> 2. chmod go+w /dev/console
> 3. rpm --freshen *.rpm
>
> still not happy. I mean startx runs fine as root, just not as any other
> normal user!
> what else could be done.
>
> thanks
> Chakravarthy K Sannedhi
>
>
--
Josef Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
registered-linux-user # 13.818 at http://counter.li.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: virus found after a fresh installation
Date: 19 Sep 2000 22:10:34 -0400
In article <P7Dx5.301$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank X.M. Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>A really weild thing. I did a fresh installatio of RH6.2. New Computer box.
>New CD Media and Boot disk. When I finish installation and reboot the
>machine, it alert me that there is a virus found in boot sector. Gosh. Where
>does it come from?
>
>Could you give some suggestions on how to kill this virus in a Linux/Unix
>system?
some bios makers believe that if it's not the windows bootsector it
must be a virus.
check your BIOS setup (most likely: hold down the del key when
booting): some BIOSes have a menu entry "turn off virus warning". if
you select it everything should be ok. this "virus protection"
protects agains only one type of virus anyway.
hs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Can't install LILO when Linux > 8 GB limit with PC with BIOS restriction
Date: 19 Sep 2000 22:44:15 -0400
In article <L6Gx5.125$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Wouter Bovelander <wbovelander@*nospam*antares.nl> wrote:
>hmmm,
>
>the bios restriction is really no problem for linux once it is running. it
>will only bother you when linux boots. the linux boot partition has to
>reside below cylinder 1024 if i'm not mistaken. all other partitions (swap,
>root, etc.) can live anywhere you like on the disk.
it depends on the BIOS. some BIOSes don't have this restriction. but
unless you are sure about your bios it's safer to make an extra
partition just for the kernel(s)
>i have redhat myself (6.0) and it didn't force me to do anything. redhat
>uses diskdruid to let you choose the partitions where you want to install
>your stuff. just make sure you create your /boot partition below cylinder
>1024 of your harddisk.
depends on what you are trying to do: i recently had to set up a few
machines for dual boot (both linux). on one machine it worked fine,
on the other lilo woudn't boot into the second system.
>maybe you should try and get some support on diskdruid or read it's manual
>thouroughly.
when you select "advanced install" it gives you the choice between
diskdruid and fdisk. if you have a potential bios / lilo / disk size
problem, fdisk is the better choice. diskdruid seems to always move
the last partition you defined to the start of the disk and move
everything else into a secondary partition without giving the user any
control about where to place them. even if you set up your partitions
before the install it will happily ignore and overwrite your setup (at
least i didn't find any way to prevent it from doing it). btw,
chosing "advanced installation" seems to be the only way to use fdisk.
> ...
hs
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Help: Kernel hang/coredump analysis
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Sep 2000 14:05:23 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Liaw Yong Shyang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have midified and recompiled the Linux kernel for my project. I can
>reboot from my new kernel image successfully, and it works happily.
>However, the system will hang from time to time. How can I debug, as I
>could not repeat the bug at my will?? Is it any tool that I can use to
>analyse coredump? Any book or article I can read more about coredump
>analysis?
>
>I really appreciate if you can help. Thank in advance.
>
Core dumps may be analyzed using e.g. the 'gdb' debugger.
$ gdb -c ./core
This will start 'gdb' and tell you what executable created the core
file (I hope! It does with a small example I'm playing with). From
'gdb' type "file a.out" (where 'a.out' is the name of the executable
that 'gdb' said generated the core file) and then type "where".
/A
--
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