Linux-Misc Digest #882, Volume #18                Wed, 3 Feb 99 16:13:12 EST

Contents:
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Intellipoint Mouse (Richard Steiner)
  How to make it run faster? ("RAZOR")
  Re: Running UNIX apps? (Glen Turner)
  Re: CD-RW as backup alternative (Ben Russo)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Dennis)
  Re: How to make it run faster? ("Cameron Spitzer")
  Sybase ASE for non-RedHat Linux distributions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: loading up the sound driver module (Ben Russo)
  Re: Setting the Hostname (Bob Tennent)
  Re: Print Filter Problems (Persona)
  Re: I'm loosing memory!!! (Mark Hahn)
  Re: Suggestions for new Linux Fortran compiler (Ben Russo)
  wterm shade color (Fung Wai Keung)
  Future X-Windows Updates ("Steve D. Perkins")
  Saving Disc Space for FTP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux apps in win2000 port news! (Adam P. Jenkins)
  Modem sharing with Windows? (root)
  Re: Linux/KDE/Netscape PAGING immensly (Gus Hartmann)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:32:31 GMT

"Eric Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Actually, the British had the first WORKING computer as well.  I forget the
>name, but it was used to decode German Enigma signals during WW2.  It was
>only recently declassified.

The name is "Colossus".

>Oh, It wasn't a digital computer, if that makes any difference, it was
>analog mechanical.

No, it wasn't. It was electronic (using vacuum tubes) and almost certainly
digital.

Bernie
-- 
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"It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...
                                           ...let's go exploring"
Calvin's final words, on December 31st, 1995

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Intellipoint Mouse
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:45:07 -0600

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles H. Chapman)
spake unto us, saying:

>On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 00:27:54 -0600, Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Not having an IntelliMouse, I've not tested it.  There's also this page
>>which might have some helpful information:
>>
>>  http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/
>
>That's all well and good -- it does make the wheelie work in X, but
>that capability is useless to me unless someone can tell me how to
>prevent clicking the wheelie from pasting what's in the X paste
>buffer.  It's next to impossible to spin the wheelie without clicking
>it.

Hey, I only did a quickie DejaNews search to answer your question in an
attempt to be helpful.  I didn't write the driver, nor do I use it.

I'd suggest talking to the author of that page or the utility/settings
you're trying to use.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
       OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
        WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
                But, boss, this IS part of my job!

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From: "RAZOR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: How to make it run faster?
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:06:44 -0800

Hey guys  :-)
I have my second puter that is 486/66mhz ,16 mb ram with Redhat 5.1
installed. My swap partition is 65 mb, and I'm running AnotherLevel
X-Windows (w95 look). So X-Windows is running kinda slow. Even programs in
control panel are running slow(or any other basic programs).Although I read
everywhere that Linux is bringing back to life all that old machines, even
freaking Winblows is running faster on this puter.
What is the way to increase performance? I mean without hardware upgrades
and increasing swap partition (I don't have any more space). I have Redhat
5.0, 5.1, 5.2 releases, may be I should install v5.0? Or may be another
windows manager?
Dudes, ANY, ANY tips are appreciated, especially from dudes who have the
same puter. :-)
Thanx in advance






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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:43:52 +1030
From: Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running UNIX apps?

> Specifically, I'm wondering about a software package titled,
> "Pro/ENGINEER".  The vendor makes two flavors of their package for UNIX;
> one primarily for Solaris & SGI, and the other for DEC, HP, & IBM.

Although it won't run, you should ring the company and ask
for a version.  The EDA software manufacturers were saying
a few months back that either:

   a) there was no demand for their products to run under Linux
or
   b) the demand was from people that weren't willing
      to pay full price for the product (ie: porting to
      Linux would lower their revenues).

If you don't let them know otherwise then they won't port their
products.

Cheers,
Glen

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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: CD-RW as backup alternative
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:53:43 -0500

"Kerry J. Cox" wrote:

> Howdy,
> I was wondering what the feasibility would be to install a CD-RW on my
> Linux box and have it be used to backup all my Solaris machines here at
> work?  How would I go about backing up critical files from off the Sun
> Solaris machines then onto a CD-RW?  Would you recommend using ufsdump
> or tarring them up or setting up a selective process to back up certain
> files?
> Any input would be apprciated.
> Thanks.
> KJ

Not enough capacity,  it would take 3 CD's to back up every 2Gig disk.
Network latency would kill your CDwrites, so you would have to copy
an entire disks contents to the writer system, then build the CD image,
then write it.  Way too slow.

CD's work ok for backing up a source tree on
major version number or for backing up log files once a month.  But
definitely
not a nightly or weekly solution for lot's of boxes.
Also, you won't find any archive software solutions that work off of CD's.

Unless you want to write your own.

Get a good tape drive or if you have enough machines, a good tape jukebox
you can then do automated backup's over the network at
non-peak hours.  Look into "AMANDA" or one of the commercial backup
software suites.  You will want a tape archive management software setup
that
does incremental backups and keeps database of file info.  It should also
have
the ability to recover from problems.

For some of our DataBase servers (about 30) we use a 64 DLT 80GB per tape
jukebox with a Legato software setup.  Very nice, but fairly expensive.
We had to set up a private 100MB LAN on a reserved subnet to handle the
load, and the Legato licenses are charged per backup client!
But then, losing the Data and not having a recovery plan could cost
BILLIONS!
That is why we tested this backup and recovery procedure for each OS.

I haven't used it, but AMANDA probably has about the same functionality
and is Free of Charge, but there is no 24x7 support if you are sick and
the
server crashes what happens to the company?  Legato will send out a
specialist
technician who could figure out our systems with the DBA's and users and
then
restore the servers if I was gone.

-Ben.


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From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:17:07 +0000

>
> >Seems strange to me that the establishment decided to make a stand over a
> >web-browser. When I first started to use the web, it was with Mosaic which was
> >completely free. Netscape latched onto the idea and tried to commercialize it
> >though they released their products for free download over the net for a long
> >time. There are still free web-browsers around - how can you describe it as a
> >major application?
>
> It's a "major application" compared to say Notepad or Wordpad. Check
> out the size differences, Notepad and Wordpad etc. I consider to be
> "applets" not full-blown applications.

I see MSIE as a major application by its use.  personally I only ever use
wordpad as a text viewer, and only when notepad can't handle the job.
I think most people are the same.

however I can count at least 5 family members and many friends
and acquaintances that have purchase a new computer for internet access.
When the web browser is the primary application for so many people, I think
it easily becomes more significant then notepad, or solitaire.

BTW Scott Nuddz is a lier.





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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How to make it run faster?
Date: 3 Feb 1999 05:02:19 GMT

In article <7987g2$klq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
RAZOR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hey guys  :-)
>I have my second puter that is 486/66mhz ,16 mb ram with Redhat 5.1
>installed. My swap partition is 65 mb, and I'm running AnotherLevel
>X-Windows (w95 look).
>What is the way to increase performance? I mean without hardware upgrades

My first Linux system was a 386-40 with 6 MB and a dumb (no drawing engine)
ISA-resident display card.  The X Window system was too slow to use.
The top(1) utility revealed that my working set was bigger than 6 MB
and I was swapping.  Upgrade to 16 MB solved the swapping problem.
(Until I installed U of I Mosaic.  This was before Netscape.)

An upgrade to a 486-40 had no noticeable effect.  The ISA video card
was the performance bottleneck.  Upgrading to a PCI video card
with drawing engine (first generation S3, "Diamond Stealth DRAM 64"
or some such thing) totally solved the xterm performance problem.

I've experimented with other upgrades since then.  But going to the
drawing engine was by far the most dramatic improvement.
(Incidentally, computer sales droids who only know what Microsoft
tells them refer to drawing engines as "Windows Accellerators"
and you probably can't find a video card made in the last two years
without one.)

There is one more really dramatic performance improvement available
with the 486/66.  Use two 486/66 computers linked by 10 Mbps Ethernet
or better.  Run Netscape Navigator and other piggy apps on one,
and the X Window System on the other.  Even with a dumb ISA Ethernet
card on both ends, the apparent speed will at least double.

Cameron

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: Sybase ASE for non-RedHat Linux distributions
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 03:44:16 GMT

Hi,

I want to try out Sybase ASE on Linux, but the distributions supported
(Caldera OpenLinux, SuSe, Redhat) do not seem to include Slackware. Is there
a tarfile I can download that will work on Slackware? Alternately, can I grok
the .rpm files to work on my Slackware setup?

Thanks,

Brian Baquiran
http://www.evoserve.com/~brianb/

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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.sound,linux.redhat.list,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: loading up the sound driver module
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:07:00 -0500

Cher-Wah Tan wrote:

> hi!
>
> any idea how i could load up the sound driver under linux.  i believe my
> kernel is being compiled with sound driver as a loadable module (comes
> with redhat 5.2).
>
> can anyone gives me the command to load it up?
> thanks a bunch!
>
> -w

Run "sndconfig"
or read the man page for insmod, and figure out how to configure the kernel
and
the sound module.

-Ben.


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From: r d t@c s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: Setting the Hostname
Date: 3 Feb 1999 19:46:17 GMT

On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 02:52:39 +0000, Steve D. Perkins wrote:

 >    Can anyone tell me where the hostname for you Linux box gets stored,
 >and what the easiest way to change it is?  Thanks!
 >
 Edit /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/hosts

 Bob T.

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From: Persona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Print Filter Problems
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:56:48 -0600

"J. S. Jensen" wrote:

> Time to give up that GUI and get down n' dirty!  Take a look in your
> /etc/printcap file, and make sure that the print queue properly exists, and
> the names were not changed.  Check the queue with `lpc'.  Are the spool
> directories existing?  Check your (generally) /var/log/lpd-errs file.  Can
> you properly submit PS, PDF and text files to the printer from the Linux
> box?

I have and haven't seen anything unusual so far.  I do have additional
information.  The printer works fine when I print just straight text without
going through the print filter (set up by Printtool), and I also see that
anything I print from Applixware has no trouble printing either.  It seems my
problem is back to the printer filter itself, and what I imagine got updated
when I upgraded to the newer version of ghostscript with .pdf support.

> > gives an error saying that 'Window fs exists, can't execute'.  Help!!
>
> I'm sorry, what gives that error?  Windows? samba logs? system logs? lpd
> logs?

Sorry.  Printtool gives me that error when I try to change the printer's
filter.

>
> --
> J. S. Jensen
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.Paramin.COM

Thanks for the reply,
--Persona



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From: Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: I'm loosing memory!!!
Date: 3 Feb 1999 17:40:27 GMT

> Hi to all. I'm really worry about the following problem

don't be.  free memory is wasted memory.  linux tries hard to keep
nearly all memory in use (why pay for it otherwise?)

>        total       used       free     shared    buffers    cached
> Mem:  255588      57660     197928      23112      22052     21432
> Mem:  255588      79452     176136      23120      42340          21476
> Mem:  255588     101272     154316      23196      62692          21568
> Mem:  255588     124800     130788      23196      83108          23300
> Mem:  255588     148072     107516      26304     103396          23436

in this case, Linux is performing perfectly: using wasted memory
to cache the filesystem, so you spend less time waiting for the disk
to move.

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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: Re: Suggestions for new Linux Fortran compiler
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:04:23 -0500

"Frank T. Sronce" wrote:

> Well, I'm administering a fairly new Redhat Linux 5.2 machine and it
> looks like we need to get a commercial Fortran compiler for it.  I've
> been using g77/fort77 for most things, but I need to port over code that
> was designed for the Sun F77 compiler, which implements a superset of
> F77 Fortran.  The code won't compile on our Linux box, apparently
> because of those additional features (like the Format (q) statment, and
> allowing Implicit None to appear in the middle of declarations).
>
> So, I'm looking for a new compiler which has more capabilities and which
> will compile this code (and hopefully any future code we have similar
> problems with).  Has anyone got any recommendations on what compiler to
> get?  Or pointers to where I could find useful info?
>
> Frank Sronce
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Find out if Sun F77 compiler is available in Solaris-x86 or BSDx86 or
SCOx86 flavors, if so you may be able to run that compiler and it's
libraries under Linux with the intel binary compatability loaded in the
kernel.

-Ben.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fung Wai Keung)
Subject: wterm shade color
Date: 2 Feb 1999 03:23:23 GMT

Hi,

        How to set the default shade color of the transparent background of
wterm-6.2.6?

Thanks in advance.

--

Regards,
Wai Keung, Fung

Department of Mechanical and Automation Engineering,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong,
Shatin, N.T.,
Hong Kong.

Tel: (852)26098470      Fax: (852)26036002

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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Future X-Windows Updates
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:50:35 +0000

    Okay, I promise that I'm not trolling for a flame-war or anything...
but there are a few shortcomings in the x-windows system that I am
wondering if major updates are in the works for.

    I have noticed that there really isn't all that much co-operation
between applications running under X as there is in other GUI's (such as
Windows or MacOS).  I find it very frustrating that I am unable to just
cut-and-paste text between any application I choose... it is oftentimes
impossible to do so even within the same application!  I suppose that
I've gotten a little spoiled by having the right-mouse-button-commands
available to me everywhere within Windows.

    I am also a little taken aback by fonts and printing.  Basically, it
seems that the fonts built into X suck... most applications that look
half-way decent do so by implementing their own independant font
system.  The same is also true for printing... after Ghostscript finally
reached the stage where it supports my printer, I find that I'm expected
to track down a totally seperate printer driver to use within
WordPerfect (after a short while I was happy to find that they do have a
"Passthrough-Postscript" driver, that feeds the documents straight to
Ghostscript).  This entire situation reminds me of the old DOS days...
when you had to have seperate fonts and printer drivers for WordPerfect
5.1, Lotus 1-2-3, etc...

    Does anyone know if future implementations of X plan to feature
tighter integration along these lines?

Steve



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Saving Disc Space for FTP
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:23:32 GMT

Hello All,

Most of my friends doesn't have internet access. They are interested to
try Linux on their machines and I made it available for them through a dial
in to my linux box.
I have a Redhat rpms in my Win partition  which I have downloaded previously
from the internet.
I'm now low on disc space in my /home/ftp/pub/     directory (this is actually
a mounted partition on /dev/hda4   named /home.

I tried to do an ln -s /win/Redhat Redhat
under the pub directory.
When i do a cd /home/ftp/pub/Redhat/ and do an ls -l, I could see the files in
it.
I tested a local FTP download like $ftp localhost, entered anonymous and
password.

then:            ftp> cd /pub/Redhat
                 ftp> ls
it returns,
                 ftp> no such file or directory

Is this normal when using ftp? Is there a solution to this?
I simulated an ftp via the netscape browser and the same story happens.
Please help. My friends now are waiting.
Thanks in advance.


Bud




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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux apps in win2000 port news!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Jenkins)
Date: 03 Feb 1999 15:57:53 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Mathers) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Adam P. Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Exceed is just an X server.  This means that while it can allow X apps
> >to display on a Windows machine, the apps have to actually be running
> >on a Unix machine, or actually be ported to Windows with a Windows
> >version of Xlib.  I've used it and I never had NT crash because of it.
> >It's a useful thing to have on a network with both Unix and NT
> >workstations, but it's not a replacement for Unix.  It can't run Unix
> >binaries on NT.
> 
> Right on all counts (obviously).
> 
> But the point is that the general public (including at least one
> poster to this NG) can't tell the difference between an X server
> implementation and a "Unix emulator" anyway, so, in the spirit of
> "Perception  == Reality", there really is no difference.

But there is a very big difference in "Reality" between an X server
and "Unix emulator".  With just an X server, you still need to own and
operate a machine running Unix to run Unix apps.  If you had a Unix
emulator, presumably that means you could get Unix apps and just run
them on your NT machine.  The sysadmin may be able to write some kewl
scripts so that an end-user on the NT machine doesn't realize they're
starting an X app, but that still only accounts for GUI Unix apps; to
start a non-gui Unix app you'd still need to actually log into the
Unix machine, whereas if you had a Unix emulator you could just run
them on your NT machine too.

-- 
Adam P. Jenkins 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Modem sharing with Windows?
Date: 2 Feb 1999 03:07:29 GMT

Hello everyone,

Another question to appease my Windows users . . . do you know of 
software (GNU or commercial) that allows a Linux connected modem to 
occasionally be commandeered by a Windows workstation for things like
dialing into banks (much of the account software they provide only
works with dialins).  Are there proxys or anything that you know of?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Later, eh.

Marcel (Free Thinker at Large) Gagne
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Gus Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/KDE/Netscape PAGING immensly
Date: 3 Feb 1999 06:15:35 GMT

Kaustav Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Was not creating a swap a bad idea?  Surely with 128MB you don't need
> a swap?  Or do you?  hhmmmm...

        Making a swap partition or file is *always* a good idea,
regardless of ram size.

        Gus
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