Linux-Misc Digest #882, Volume #26 Sun, 21 Jan 01 19:13:01 EST
Contents:
Good Intro on rsync & personal crontab? (* Tong *)
install problem (PeepN)
FTP stopped working (Robert Love)
Re: ufs mount? (Pat McCann)
Rachel,this is it (Anonymous)
Linux compatible of Quicken ? (Arctic Storm)
Re: USB Mouse and Touchpad at same time? ("Dan Yocom")
Re: Help: setting up ntp-4.0.99k.rpm (Jeff Silverman)
Re: Gnuplot filled box issue (Robert Love)
Re: Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task! (bob)
Re: Red Hat Linux 7.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RPM newbie query | uninstall ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
athlon kernel panic is repeatable (bob)
lib files
Re: Full-featured, reliable POP-mail client for Linux? (Dan Jacobson)
Re: Linux and Vbasic scripts? (David)
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From: * Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Good Intro on rsync & personal crontab?
Date: 21 Jan 2001 18:03:22 -0400
Hi,
I'm now trying to setup my personal crontab. The first task I want
to do is to rsync all my useful files to another local disk and
remote nfs.
I've searched through linux-how to but didn't find any document
covering it. I know that if I search for 'tutorial rsync & personal
crontab' on internet search engines I will get tons of hits. So I
want to ask here first, do you know and web pages that give a pretty
good coverage of rsync or crontab? thanks
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http://members.xoom.com/suntong001/
- All free contribution & collection & music from the heavens
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From: PeepN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: install problem
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:07:37 +0100
Hello
When I try to install RedHat 6.1 i see communicate:
'install exited abnormally -- recieved signal 11'.
What does it mean?
PeepN
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From: Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FTP stopped working
Date: 21 Jan 2001 16:21:26 -0600
My RH 6.2 box seems to have suddenly stopped accepting incoming
ftp sessions. I can still use it for ftp, I just can't ftp to
it any more. I can telnet to it just fine.
I don't know of any changes I've made. The process ftpd seems
to be running fine.
What can I do to re-enable ftp to this machine again? All advice
appreciated.
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Subject: Re: ufs mount?
From: Pat McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 21 Jan 2001 14:32:04 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) writes:
> mount -t ufs /dev/hdXX /mountpoint -o ufstype=44bsd
Yeah, with "-r", that did it for me.
But I wouldn't use it for anything important, especially without
the "-r".
I copied 72 MB from my FreeBSD / partition to my ext2 partition
under Linux and got an I/O error:
attempt to access beyond end of device
03:05: rw=0, want=208846, limit=208845
dev 03:05 blksize=1024 blocknr=208845 sector=417690 size=1024 count=1
and a file got corrupted (truncated?). I'm not even going to try a write.
I think I'll probably have to resort to transfering files by tar'ing
into and out of a "/dev/xfr-partition" unless I can figure out how
to get FreeBSD to read (maybe write) in an ext2 logical partition.
P.S. I'm try to escape from this copyleft "GNU System with a Linux
kernel" to an OS with more non-copyleft free software which I'd rather
support. It sometimes seems a shame we can't all just work on one
open/free OS and avoid the code re-writing (on the BSD side, at least),
without the don't-let-THEM-use-our-code schemes, but having a few
implementations and variations on the Unix idea is probably not a bad
thing either. Only a few people can manage to bang heads in any one
development process so having several produces more ideas. And
rewriting tends to produce better code anyway, I suppose. I just hope
that GNU exercises restraint on establishing their own standards which
affect the easy of developing applications that work on many Unixy OSes.
If I see them in a blatant power play to squeeze out non-GNU free OSes,
I'll probably switch over to Microsoft for the first time in my life. I
respect such tactics for monetary reasons more than I do for the
half-baked philosophical reasons which motivates copyleftists to not
just develop open software but to avoid helping the development of
closed software. The latter seems so juvenile to me. The sales pitch
about "freedom" and threats of lawsuits over use of their
"non-proprietary" software is just too much. I'm outa here. I wish.
Unfortunately, it can't be avoided in the open source world, even in the
BSD world. I'll just be more comfortable lending support to an OS with
more freer-than-copyleft software.
Actually, I would like to work against certain closed source software
developers, namely Microsoft (for having to be brought foot-dragging-
all-the-way into modernizing their OSes) and I feel like a part of a
team against them. But I don't want to punish all closed software
developers in the process.
Whew! (Isn't hatred a powerful thing? It makes me a boor. Like it
did RMS. But I don't expect it will lead me to even 0.1% of what it has
lead RMS to accomplish. It takes talent and drive too.)
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:34:13 -0700
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rachel,this is it
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux compatible of Quicken ?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:44:51 GMT
Linux compatible of Quicken ?
I've been a Quicken user for many years, and I have a large file with
personal accounts.
Is there an equalent of Quicken in Linux? Something that's capable of
reading the Quicken files.
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From: "Dan Yocom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: USB Mouse and Touchpad at same time?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:50:09 -0500
Charles Jager wrote in message ...
>I recently installed Mandrake 7.2 (linux newbie) on a Sony Vaio F490
>laptop and I can't get the USB mouse and the touchpad to both work at
>the same time. I read the How To's and tried different entries in the
>Pointer and Input Device sections of my XF86Config-4 file but to no
>avail.
I follwed the instructions at http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x194.html
and I had great results however, i was using Xfeee 3.3.6
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From: Jeff Silverman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Help: setting up ntp-4.0.99k.rpm
Date: 21 Jan 2001 22:55:32 GMT
"David. E. Goble" wrote:
> Hi all;
>
> I have no idea what Iam doing so please bare with me.
I can bear with you. Everything you wrote is irrelevant (of course, you didn't know
that ) until
you get to here:
> Jan 19 09:01:30 gtech ntpd[563]: time error 43198 over 1000 seconds;
> set clock manually
> Jan 19 09:39:59 gtech ntpd[1932]: ntpd 4.0.99k Wed Oct 25 10:39:20 EDT
> 2000 (1)
> Jan 19 09:39:59 gtech ntpd[1932]: signal_no_reset: signal 13 had flags
> 4000000
> Jan 19 09:39:59 gtech ntpd[1932]: set_process_priority: priority_done
> is <2>
> Jan 19 09:39:59 gtech ntpd[1932]: precision = 13 usec
> Jan 19 09:39:59 gtech ntpd[1932]: kern_enable is 1
> Jan 19 09:39:59 gtech ntpd[1932]: using kernel phase-lock loop 0001
> Jan 19 09:39:59 gtech ntpd[1932]: frequency initialized -0.763 from
> /etc/ntp/drift
> Jan 19 09:39:59 gtech ntpd[1932]: using kernel phase-lock loop 0041
> Jan 19 09:39:59 gtech ntpd[1932]: bind() fd 8, family 2, port 123,
> addr 224.0.1.1, in_classd=1 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
> Jan 19 09:39:59 gtech ntpd[1932]: ...multicast address 224.0.1.1 using
> wildcard socket
> Jan 19 09:44:19 gtech ntpd[1932]: time error 43198 over 1000 seconds;
> set clock manually
> Jan 19 09:51:52 gtech ntpd[2218]: ntpd 4.0.99k Wed Oct 25 10:39:20 EDT
> 2000 (1)
> Jan 19 09:51:52 gtech ntpd[2218]: signal_no_reset: signal 13 had flags
> 4000000
> Jan 19 09:51:52 gtech ntpd[2218]: set_process_priority: priority_done
> is <2>
> Jan 19 09:51:52 gtech ntpd[2218]: precision = 12 usec
> Jan 19 09:51:52 gtech ntpd[2218]: kern_enable is 1
> Jan 19 09:51:52 gtech ntpd[2218]: using kernel phase-lock loop 0041
> Jan 19 09:51:52 gtech ntpd[2218]: frequency initialized -0.763 from
> /etc/ntp/drift
> Jan 19 09:51:53 gtech ntpd[2218]: using kernel phase-lock loop 0041
> Jan 19 09:51:53 gtech ntpd[2218]: bind() fd 10, family 2, port 123,
> addr 224.0.1.1, in_classd=1 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
> Jan 19 09:51:53 gtech ntpd[2218]: ...multicast address 224.0.1.1 using
> wildcard socket
> Jan 19 09:56:59 gtech ntpd[2218]: time error 43198 over 1000 seconds;
> set clock manually
> Jan 19 09:57:43 gtech ntpd[2355]: ntpd 4.0.99k Wed Oct 25 10:39:20 EDT
> 2000 (1)
> Jan 19 09:57:43 gtech ntpd[2355]: signal_no_reset: signal 13 had flags
> 4000000
> Jan 19 09:57:43 gtech ntpd[2355]: set_process_priority: priority_done
> is <2>
> Jan 19 09:57:43 gtech ntpd[2355]: precision = 12 usec
> Jan 19 09:57:43 gtech ntpd[2355]: kern_enable is 1
> Jan 19 09:57:43 gtech ntpd[2355]: using kernel phase-lock loop 0001
> Jan 19 09:57:43 gtech ntpd[2355]: frequency initialized -0.763 from
> /etc/ntp/drift
> Jan 19 09:57:43 gtech ntpd[2355]: using kernel phase-lock loop 0041
> Jan 19 09:57:43 gtech ntpd[2355]: bind() fd 8, family 2, port 123,
> addr 224.0.1.1, in_classd=1 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
> Jan 19 09:57:43 gtech ntpd[2355]: ...multicast address 224.0.1.1 using
> wildcard socket
> Jan 19 10:02:49 gtech ntpd[2355]: time error 43198 over 1000 seconds;
> set clock manually
> Jan 19 10:18:58 gtech pppd[770]: Terminating on signal 15.
And everything after here is irrelevant, too.
The problem is the error "time error 43198 over 1000 seconds; set clock manually".
NTP won't start
if the time error is greater than a certain threshold, in your version, 1000 seconds
or 16 min 40
sec. The reason why is that the NTP works by gently speeding up or slowing down your
system clock
until synchronization is acheived. NTP assumes that if the error is greater than 1000
second, then
it will take too long to synch.
There are a couple of things you can do. Probably the easiest is to populate the file
/etc/ntp/step-tickers with a list of time servers, all on one line and separated by a
space. If
that doesn't work, then you will have to put an invokation of ntpdate in your time
startup file.
ntpdate sets the date in one jump. This is considered A Bad Thing because it disrupts
everything
else that relies on time. On the other hand, it may be the best you can do.
Time, it turns out, is very complicated.
I hope this helps
Jeff
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father etc.
See my website: http://www.commercialventvac.com/~jeffs
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From: Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: Gnuplot filled box issue
Date: 21 Jan 2001 16:38:18 -0600
>>>>> "BT" == Bosco Tsang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
BT> I am trying to creating bar charts using gnuplot, via the
BT> "with boxes" option. However, the bars drawn are not filled
BT> with color. I've noted from the faq that some modification
BT> request which can be download from
BT> ftp://grebe.geog.ubc.ca/pub/gnuplot as box.tar, but seems that
BT> this is not an anonymous site. Wonder if where else can I
BT> download this file, or is there any other way to have the bars
BT> filled with color?
Try the gnuplot newsgroup for specific questions. They've helped
me before.
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From: bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:13:27 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have seen the same error message fight after I booted the machine.
I think it's an OS/HW issue. A serious one!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 19 Jan 2001 08:39:44 -0500, Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Steve wrote:
> >>
> >> I can't help with the dump, but I can tell you that when my machine
> >> was randomly crashing, I got memtest86, and sure enough, one of my
> >> SDRAMs was bad.
> >>
> >I have been getting too many crashes lately. I got memtest86 and it says
> >everything is fine (though the program crashed (locked up) instead of
> >exiting after the last of the default tests. I have 512 Meg RAM, so it
> >took over two hours to run.
> >
> >Can you tell if it is a good program? Or is it just giving me a false
> >sense of security?
>
> All I can say is that it worked for me. There are the
> default tests, and then there's a more extensive set of tests.
> I'd try running the complete suite of tests overnight.
>
> >My Linux crashes in the same place when it crashes; when dialing up my
> >ISP. All the hand shaking is done and the ISP is just about to tell me
> >my IP address and their IP address, but instead, the system is totally
> >crashed.
>
> This doesn't sound like a memory problem though. Bad RAM
> causes truly "random" crashes. If you're crashing the same
> place, that's a pretty good hint that memory isn't at fault.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 7.1
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:15:28 GMT
Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I hope you are right. I went to a CompUSA which carried a $30 boxed
> > basic RedHat 7. We buy one copy to nod to RedHat to keep up the <insert
> > your opinion here> work. $30 spent on RedHat is a $60+ plus loss for
> > M$. The ole kernel rpm upgrade would justify my faith...
> I buy boxed copies of Redhat for the same reason. I want to support
> people who are making the effort on my behalf to make Linux easier
> to use and better supported for hardware and software.
> If they don't get any money then I'll be writing my own device
> drivers.....and I have better things to do.
> The equivalent of US$50 or $100 or even $500 / annum is CHEAP
> compared to what I would have to pay Microsoft. That money is put to
> good use. It gives me CHOICE.....and worth every penny.
> I'll buy 7.1 (of whatever) when it comes out. I may have downloaded
> the ISO image by then....but I buy the boxed set anyway.
The _problem_ is that doing this only does a limited amount to "support
those that work on improving Linux;" in effect, it is a fairly
inefficient way of getting money to the developers.
Several perspectives:
1. On $40 paid for a "boxed set," RHAT probably only sees $15, spends
a chunk of that on the bits of paper and plastic that you get in
the box, as well as on advertising.
It would be surprising to me if significantly more than about 10%
of the price paid ($4, perhaps?) actually goes to the purpose that
you're hoping for.
There is a somewhat legitimate "objection" that in order for Linux
to be seen out there in Retail Land, there _needs_ to be this
inefficiency that makes it profitable for stores to stock the
boxed sets. But that's a separate issue...
2. Once that 10% gets to RHAT, it provides support to the very
limited subset of free software RHAT pays developers to work on.
3. If you _are_ looking at the "10% of $40" as an entirely acceptable
thing, there is then the issue that you need to ensure that RHAT
does not consider your $40 to be a "given."
That is, if RHAT concludes that people will just blindly pay for
each upgrade as it comes along [note: this applies to other
vendors just as well], then they effectively don't have to care
about what you want.
In contrast, if they feel there is a risk of losing you as a
customer, to another vendor of distributions, they will have to
take action, at each release, to ensure that there is stuff in the
release that keeps it competitive with the alternatives.
Consider it stipulated that RHAT could care less about the $4 they
make off of you as a single individual; the "risk of losing
customers" is something they'd look at from a "statistical
aggregation" perspective through glasses focused at the 50,000
customers that might slip through their fingers.
At any rate, I'd suggest keeping your options open to perhaps
support a variety of vendors, which has the added merit of helping
sponsor a more diverse set of software.
The way that I prefer to look at sponsorship is via directing funding
to particular projects. I've sent money to the FSF, Debian, XFree86,
and such, on occasion.
A _COOL_ idea that would encourage even more diverse sponsorship would
be to look to what software you use, and see if you could send a nice
card with $20 inside to some of the individuals that help produce
software that you appreciate having.
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Klingons do not make software 'releases.' Our software 'escapes'
leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in
its wake."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RPM newbie query | uninstall
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:22:31 GMT
Hi -
I did an install of a recent Tripwire RPM build on my RH 6.0 machine,
and all seemed to go fine.
However, I decided after the fact I should probalby wait until I've
more thoroughly read the Tripwire docs before fooling too much with
it, so I decided to uninstall the RPM, using
rpm -e tripwire-2.3.47
However, when I do this, I get an error message saying that
tripwire-2.3.47 is NOT installed.
Hmmm...so if it isn't installed, then how come when I do a
rpm -q tripwire
I get
tripwire-2.3.47
returned, indicating it has been installed?
In other words, why isn't the 'uninstall' working? Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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From: bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: athlon kernel panic is repeatable
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:26:46 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just had a box built with an 800MHz Athalon CPU on an AZZA
motherboard. I installed RH6.2 and everytime I turn it on I get a
"Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!"
I am thinking its a MB/OS issue. The OS can't or doesn't know how to
talk to the MB. I have sent an email to AZZA but I doubt they will
reply. The shop that built the box is clueless about linux. They think
you have to buy it. :-) I read in the RH HW support section that
certain athlon MBs have problems. Great.. But, supposedly, RH 7.0 loads
no problem. We'll see.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lib files
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:30:07 -0000
what's a good program to open .lib files?
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From: Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc,gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Re: Full-featured, reliable POP-mail client for Linux?
Date: 21 Jan 2001 21:14:20 +0800
>>>>> "Cam" == Cameron Jay Erens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Cam> Then try Evolution after it's final release...try it now if you
Cam> don't really need a 100% bug free email client.
How about gnus? Why just check those Supercite 3.1 produced citations
above. Plus if you get pissed you can swing into picture-mode and chop
up text as below:
\ / \ \ \
C\m> ww/.\elix-c/\e.com /\ave C./\<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ca\> w/ote\in m/ss\ge / \ / \
Cam\ /ews:L\L9/.510\4$/E2.5\70/47@n\ws1.onlynews.com...
>> S/ruce! \/nome e\/il cli\/t). B\en using it for as long as I can remember.
>> /u\s grea/\on KDE/\if Gno/\ is als\ installed. That is, you don't
>>/hav\ to /un\gnom/ i\ you/do\'t want\to, but Spruce kicks butt as
>/ far \s /mail\oe/. -\av/ \ \
/ / / /
[probably does, never tried it] But hey, with my new Vanity Message-ID
I'm a real hit with the chicks...
>> reboot and fsck; none of > the escapes to text mode work. It often
>> crashes when fetching spam > containing Big-5 (Chinese) text, but
[The three deadly double bytes of big5 at the end of each message are my
name (ji1 dan1 ni2)]
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Vbasic scripts?
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:09:19 GMT
Don Grbac wrote:
>
> Is anyone out there interested in helping to promote direct democracy?
> Two affiliated web sites, vote.org and p2dd.org, have a problem tracking
> user links from the first site to the second in Linux. The designer of
> the site uses Vbasic scripts to do the tracking. This obviously does
> not work for Linux users.
>
> Don
>
> --
> ["We, the People" can legislate!]
> http://www.vote.org/
If ""We, the people" can legislate!" as you put it.
Then why would "We, the people" want to help figure out a way to track
us on the net?
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