Linux-Misc Digest #927, Volume #18 Sat, 6 Feb 99 12:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: KDE Desktop with Redhat Apollo (Michel Catudal)
Re: NumLock, Linux, AnotherLevel, fvwm2 (Michel Catudal)
Re: Best version of Netscape 4.5 (Michel Catudal)
Re: Installing a WinModem under Linux (Michel Catudal)
Re: Netscape and Real Audio Player (Michel Catudal)
Re: why are linux x apps so slow? (Michel Catudal)
Re: Getting the time right in netscape and elsewhere. (Michel Catudal)
Re: why are linux x apps so slow? (Michel Catudal)
Re: problem with HP 720c printer (Michel Catudal)
Re: Repartition Hard Drive (John Thompson)
Re: Start of Discussion Linux vers NT (Michel Catudal)
Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux (Brad Hein)
Re: NO gcc-g++ package in RedHat5.1 and RedHat5.2 ? (Michel Catudal)
Need help with Linux proposal ("Bob Law")
Re: pls help: can't configure swap device (Geoff Allsup)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Desktop with Redhat Apollo
Date: 6 Feb 1999 10:52:04 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I doesn't set the size correctly for many applications, I have the French
> version and
> > it clips messages, which makes it unintelligible.
>
> This should be mostly fixed in the real-soon-now version 1.1.
> If you find places where it isn't, please report it in http://bugs.kde.org.
> It's a rather easy to fix problem, but it is sadly too easy to miss the
> places where it happens.
>
I've read of lot of problems about the beta version so I'm waiting for the
release. I'm trying to setup the kernel 2.2.x right now, so one new item at the
time.
>
> One practical solution is to use a local news server and connect to it.
> Before you run scared, let me say there are at least two servers which are
> very easy to setup, leafnode and noffle. Check them out!
>
You mean replace my news server by my own or do I misundertand you?
> > Using the useless snd program is a problem, size wise. KDE find a stupid place
> to put
> > it (near the end of the screen) and makes it larger than the screen (my res is
> > 1024x768) It is ridiculous to assume that the average user has over 12k or
> more
> > resolution
>
> snd? Is that a KDE program?
>
A sound reader program to record music off CD or LPs. It refuses to record at a
higher speed that 8035Hz which is useless. My input of 44100 is overwritten with the
ridiculous default. I have to go to winblows NT to record my LPs.
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: NumLock, Linux, AnotherLevel, fvwm2
Date: 6 Feb 1999 10:52:08 -0600
Norvell Spearman wrote:
>
> I'm having trouble with my NumLock key in XWindows. I use fvwm2 and
> AnotherLevel, but when NumLock is enabled the window titlebar buttons
> don't work at all. With other windows managers (WindowMaker, AfterStep)
> I don't have this problem, but (call me crazy) I would really rather use
> AnotherLevel and fvwm2.
>
> Someone had sent me an .Xmodmap which seemed to fix the problem, but it
> remaps the keypad keys---in effect making the keypad always enabled,
> even when NumLock is off. Some programs seem to want to use the
> ``movement'' keys of the keypad, instead of the ``normal'' Home, Inert,
> et cetera keys.
>
use xkeycaps to modify your .Xmodmap, I'll publish an updated (patched version)
soon and give the link to the original. What I did was add two more keyboards.
I don't remember the site, you should be able to find it with the search.
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.news,linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Best version of Netscape 4.5
Date: 6 Feb 1999 10:52:11 -0600
Regit Young wrote:
>
> Which version? Correct me if I'm wrong.... aren't there only one 4.5
> available for glib2.X?
>
> Alex McCreath wrote:
>
> > Which version of Netscape Communicator (4.5) runs best under Linux RH52.
> > I have a standard Pentium 120 machine with 64M memory and plenty of
> > drive space. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Alex McCreath
There is two version of the libc5 and one of the glib2
For those of us who don't want to share our credit cards with the world there is
only one choice, which is the 128 bits version and there is no glib2 version.
And yes it works with RedHat 5.2, I use the 4.08 version. I find it less buggy
than 4.5, it is quite a bit faster too. I'll wait for a less buggy release
before I switch again.
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing a WinModem under Linux
Date: 6 Feb 1999 10:52:09 -0600
joh wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes:
>
> > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martin Gillett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
>
> > ... A Winmodem removes at least 100MHZ from the speed of your
> > processor.
>
> Hmm. What is the source of this figure? How come mine works (in
> Windows) with my Pentium 100 without noticeably slowing things down?
> (Granted, I don't usually do intensive tasks while I'm online, but I
> do run three or four apps-- typically bloated Windows apps-- at a time.)
>
Well at work someone got a 330Mhz Pentium and the winmodem brings it to a crawl
with regular crashes. My 150Mhz Pentium with a real modem works fine, even under NT.
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape and Real Audio Player
Date: 6 Feb 1999 10:52:12 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I'm having problems trying to listen to a webcast.
> When I click on a link like 'filename.ram' Netscape
> tries to download the file, however I think it
> should be playing the webcast. I've installed the
> Red Hat version of Real Player 5.0 using the standard
> rpm command (rpm -Uvh rv50_redhat5xi386.rpm). Any
> suggestions on how to listen to webcasts welcomed.
>
> --Greg
Look at the .htm files included, they describe how to install the plugins
and player.
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why are linux x apps so slow?
Date: 6 Feb 1999 10:52:10 -0600
Frederick Senn wrote:
>
> linux counts as a fast and reliable os.
> samba 2.0 claims to be the fastest smb package out there.
> I don't doubt this a single instant.
>
> yet, why are netscape or wordperfect behaving so slowly on my pentium
> 200mhz compared to their windows versions?
It is funny, I find Netscape on my PC faster on Linux than under winblows NT.
It may have something to do with your video card and/or how much memory you got.
Netscape is a hog.
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting the time right in netscape and elsewhere.
Date: 6 Feb 1999 10:52:11 -0600
Duncan Simpson wrote:
>
>
> Set yout TZ variable to EST and date, xclock, etc will all tell you
> the time in EST. The obvious place to do this is in /etc/profile. The
> libraries know about daylight saving so I get GMT or BST depending on
> which is appropiate. You will too according to what happens where you
> live. The hardware clock stays in GMT and the smart stuff in the C
> library makes the required adjustments according to your TZ variable.
>
Thanks, I'll check this out.
> Unless nets[cr]ape takes special measures to prevent it setting the
> right value of TZ in its environment will make netscape do the right
> thing too. Assuming you set TZ right and exported it /etc/profile
> it would take extra work to prevent this happening.
>
> BTW What time do they use in Los Almos and how is it related to GMT?
> --
> Duncan (-:
I think it's in Texas, so It should be central time.
In the US, the military and maybe NASA are the only ones that I know off that
use GMT. Everyone else relate to either eastern or pacific time, where the largest
cities are. I bet you'd ask just about anyone and they wouldn't know what you
are talking about when you mention GMT.
The weather dept uses GMT if I recall, their clock screws up on netscape, the
time has a double conversion. When I installed RedHat I stipulate Eastern Time
and everything is in eastern time except Netscape.
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why are linux x apps so slow?
Date: 6 Feb 1999 10:52:11 -0600
Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:52:49 GMT, Frederick Senn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >linux counts as a fast and reliable os.
> >samba 2.0 claims to be the fastest smb package out there.
> >I don't doubt this a single instant.
> >
> >yet, why are netscape or wordperfect behaving so slowly on my pentium
> >200mhz compared to their windows versions?
>
> I can't speak for WordPerfect, although I suspect the answer may be the
> same as for Netscape.
>
> The answer comes in one word:
> Motif
>
> Netscape at this point uses the Motif GUI toolkit, which, while billed
> as a "standard," is pretty buggy, definitely bloated, and has a
> propensity for slowness. Mozilla efforts are now centred on the use of
> GTk, which is neither piggy nor slow. And is new enough that it hasn't
> accreted as many egregarious unfixable bugs that people depend on...
> --
How soon can we expect such a version with 128 bits encription?
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with HP 720c printer
Date: 6 Feb 1999 10:52:05 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I would like to install my HP 720c printer on a PC RedHat 5.1 Linux platform.
> But I've got some troubles to do it.
> Is somebody could help me, knowing I downloaded pbm2ppa files and I tried to
> install it, but ... :(
> Moreover, sometimes when I try to print, I can see a message telling that my
> printer is buzy ...
> Another thing, I manage to print a test page but I don't remember how ... :(
> Have you got a procedure to print on HP 720c.
> Thanks in advance,
>
Try running lpd, your printer driver may not be loaded. I had this problem
when I installed my Canon BJC-250 printer. I found out that if I want it loaded
automatically on the next boot I have to make sure it is on.
Use man to find the syntax, I forgot. You could use printtool, I don't know if
it is on RedHat 5.1 though, I use RedHat 5.2, it sets up your printer nicely.
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
------------------------------
From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Repartition Hard Drive
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:23:22 -0600
Kor Kiley wrote:
> I've been using partition magic for several years and find it to be a
> great tool and very reliable. But to use it, you must have a dos
> machine available to create a partition magic disk which you would boot
> from, and do whatever partition changes you want. Partition magic
> doesn't run on linux although, if you also have NT or Win 9x in another
> partition of your linux machine, you can run partition magic from there.
PartitionMagic v4 includes an image of a bootable OpenDOS
diskette from which you can boot and use Partition Magic,
even if you have no bootable DOS partitions onyour machine.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Start of Discussion Linux vers NT
Date: 6 Feb 1999 10:52:06 -0600
Andreas Heiss wrote:
>
> Try SuSE6.0 ! Will come out soon in the U.S.
> 5.3 was already better (especially for beginners) than everything
> Caldera or RedHat had to offer.
> Networking and X works out of the box, even with newer graphics
> cards like your Martrox.
>
How does it compare with RedHat? Can it use the RPMs from RedHat?
Can I set it up in French as I can do with RedHat?
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
------------------------------
From: Brad Hein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:53:46 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lgbp wrote:
>
>
> Lots of people are going to tell you that there is a steep learning
> curve. This needs to be put into some perspective: there is a steep
> learning curve compared to Windows95 or MacOS, for normal use. Those
> two Operating Sytems basically have no learning curve whatsoever. You
> will be able to get past the learning curve in about 2 weeks of everyday
> use. In return for this small investment you get a lot of power in
> return. For example, how many commands do you think it would take to
> copy all the Jpeg or jpg files from a cdrom to your hard drive that are
> less than 50K over to you hard drive? Just one. Imagine completeling
> the same task in wiondows9x... lets say there are hundreds of
> directories on that CDROM, and the Jpegs are mixed in with lots of other
> stuff, and you only want the small ones because they are web graphics
> and the large ones are porn or something... Click click click, hope you
> have some spare time.
>
To be fair, you can use a find on files or folders and find JPEG files
under
50k pretty easily in Windows9x. In a weird way, you were right--it
takes
about three clicks to do it, but not a lot of time. The real difference
as I see it is that you have to access it through the GUI dialog
box--I'm
not sure what you'd need to do to perform a command line search like
that.
> Oh yeah, you might of heard, linux almost never crashes. Its crashed
> on me once in six months time.
>
This is one of the best benefits IMHO of linux.
Brad
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NO gcc-g++ package in RedHat5.1 and RedHat5.2 ?
Date: 6 Feb 1999 10:52:05 -0600
Michael Powe wrote:
>
>
> Michel> The buggy gcc crap is being replaced by egcs, but it is
> Michel> still there, just read the RedHat book, they talk about
> Michel> it. g++ may not be there but it's useless anyway unless
> Michel> you enjoy core dumps.
>
> Whatever. This is a seriously misinformed statement. But then,
> people who write buggy programs always blame the compiler.
>
I've shown the proofs before. Those who bitched that I was wrong ended admitting
that they never used the C++ part of GCC (G++)
Create an application in C++ with a lot of function calls in a class. Declare
them as virtual. There comes a point where you have too many virtual functions
declaration and G++ generates a fixed address (numbers) which will create a
core dump. It is either a bug or a pratical joke. In the application that I
have the address is always the same. The core dumps stopped after I removed
the virtual declarations. If you can't accept that this is a bug, you need to
study C++ a bit more. The first function work properly but functions at the
starting point that pisses off G++ all have the never never land fixed address.
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
------------------------------
From: "Bob Law" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need help with Linux proposal
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 07:43:09 GMT
I'm a contract programmer (AS/400 RPG III) and have persuaded the manager
where
I am contracting to look at Unix/Linux for a warehouse system. I would
appreciate any
information on how to have Linux hooked in to an SNA tcp/ip network to do
client server
with the AS/400, spread spectrum scanners that could be hooked up with
Linux, and
using Linux as a controller for some scanners and automatic palletizers.
This will be
compared against NT. I know Linux wins hands down, I have the Kirch paper,
etc. but
I need some hard info to persuade a manager that doesn't know alot about
Unix.
Also, I need to have some idea of the availability of Unix/Linux programmers
in the San
Jose area since once I move on, they will have very little unix experience
on staff. It
won't do them any good to go to open systems/software if they can't find
support
people if only on a contract basis.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Allsup)
Subject: Re: pls help: can't configure swap device
Date: 6 Feb 1999 16:46:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6 Feb 1999 06:07:26 GMT, S.T. Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I tried to configure swap space on RH 5.2 (kernel: 2.2.0-final) on a SCSI disk
>with config like this :
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/sdb1 * 1 192 1542208+ 83 Linux native
> /dev/sdb2 193 454 2104515 83 Linux native
> /dev/sdb3 455 522 546210 5 Extended
> /dev/sdb5 455 471 136521 82 Linux swap
> /dev/sdb6 472 488 136521 82 Linux swap
> /dev/sdb7 489 505 136521 82 Linux swap
> /dev/sdb8 506 522 136521 82 Linux swap
>
max size of an individual swap partition is 128 MB
******************************************************************
Geoff Allsup Upper Ocean Processes Group
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA
******************************************************************
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************
