Linux-Misc Digest #927, Volume #19 Thu, 22 Apr 99 08:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: glibc2 on slackware 3.6 ("Sreenivas Kothapalli")
NFS, how do I? (David Steuber)
Re: rsh, rcp, what is going on? (David Steuber)
Re: glibc2 on slackware 3.6 (Shaw Carruthers)
Re: IE5 under Linux (David Steuber)
Re: Things I don't get... (hellraiser)
Re: Samba and Windows98 (Branimir Dolicki)
Re: What-ya-ma-callit (TonyC)
Re: Mounting windows NTFS drive (Rod Smith)
Re: FTP problems (brian moore)
Re: Linux is dead (Adam C. Emerson)
Re: please suggest a smaller WWW browser. (Adam C. Emerson)
Re: Printing with IP in Linux (Wolf)
Re: Running X apps remotely ("Anthony J. Gabrielson")
Problems with xconsole on RH-5.2 (Kevin Reid)
Re: Bad Experience With ComputerWarehouse.com (Thomas Keats)
Re: Email with Earthlink, Sendmail, exmh, mh, Linux libc5 ("Kari E. Hurtta")
Re: bzImage problems (John Thompson)
FTP server with LDAP integration ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Ramdisk size (shu ling)
postmaster problem! (miiHKali)
ncftp tries downloading older files, older than specified with -n (jmsalvo)
Q: XEmacs & LaTeX ("Oliver D. Bedford")
Re: X Programming (jik-)
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From: "Sreenivas Kothapalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glibc2 on slackware 3.6
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:23:18 -0400
Sasa Ostrouska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
<snip>
> checking LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable... contains current directory
> configure: error:
> *** LD_LIBRARY_PATH shouldn't contain the current directory when
> *** building glibc. Please change the environment variable
> *** and run configure again.
>
> I dont know why this happens. if I issue the command :
> echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> i get the following output
>
/usr/local/Mesa/lib:/usr/local/kde/lib:/usr/local/qt/lib:/usr/local/Mesa/lib
:/usr/local/kde/lib:/usr/local/qt/lib:
The last colon in the $LD_LIBRARY_PATH is the culprit. Remove the colon
after /usr/local/qt/lib
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: NFS, how do I?
Date: 21 Apr 1999 22:51:28 -0400
I am having difficulty figuring out NFS. I want to mount the /
directory of interloper to /interloper on solo. man nfs and man
exports hasn't been very helpful.
Can anyone post an example /etc/exports and /etc/fstab file
that does this? Are there any other files I need to be concerned
with? Solo is in interloper's hosts.equiv file.
When I do the mount -a command, this is the error I get:
david@solo:~/tmp/foo/bar/baz > sudo mount -a
Password:
mount: interloper:/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
This is my /etc/fstab file on solo:
david@solo:~/tmp/foo/bar/baz > cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda3 / ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/fd0 /floppy vfat noauto,user 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# End of YaST-generated fstab lines
/dev/hdc /cdrom iso9660 ro,noauto,user 0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy vfat noauto,user 0 0
interloper:/ /interloper nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr
This is my /etc/exports file on interloper:
david@interloper:/var/log > cat /etc/exports
# See exports(5) for a description.
# This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers.
# It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd.
/ solo(rw)
/lost+found (noaccess)
david@interloper:/var/log > cat /etc/hosts.equiv
#
# hosts.equiv This file describes the names of the hosts which are
# to be considered "equivalent", i.e. which are to be
# trusted enought for allowing rsh(1) commands.
#
# hostname
solo
TIA
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
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If you don't, I won't see it. | want to track down and kill bulk
| mailers, aka spammers.
Behold the unborn fetus and
Weep salt tears crocodilian;
All life is sacred (save, of course,
An enemy civilian).
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: rsh, rcp, what is going on?
Date: 21 Apr 1999 19:29:58 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
-> Why the backticks?
->
-> Backticks aren't the same as system(), you know.
What's the difference? (apart from system() returning the exit status)
-> No, it has to do with shell expansion. Your second problem is because
-> you're pounding the server. Inetd probably killed rcp until it cooled
-> down. See your logs.
I overheated rcpd? Is there a heatsink I can apply to it?
greping through my logs for inetd revealed this:
warn:Apr 21 19:15:54 interloper inetd[149]: shell/tcp server failing (looping),
service terminated
Since bacticks or system() are both blocking calls, I'm not sure how I
could be overloading the server. Which man pages or other online docs
should I be looking at? I need to learn something, but I'm not sure
what.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
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| mailers, aka spammers.
Brain, n.:
The apparatus with which we think that we think.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shaw Carruthers)
Subject: Re: glibc2 on slackware 3.6
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:34:44 +0100
Sasa Ostrouska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
checking for mig... mig
>checking whether ranlib is necessary... no
>checking LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable... contains current directory
>configure: error:
>*** LD_LIBRARY_PATH shouldn't contain the current directory when
>*** building glibc. Please change the environment variable
>*** and run configure again.
>
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=
and it will be fine.
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: IE5 under Linux
Date: 21 Apr 1999 18:32:08 -0400
jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
-> I think though that out of all the wysiwyg html editors, netscape
-> composer is the best.
In the world of HTML, WYSIWYG is an oxymoron. HTML is not a
typesetting language.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
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| mailers, aka spammers.
The income tax has made more liars out of the American people than golf
has. Even when you make a tax form out on the level, you don't know
when it's through if you are a crook or a martyr.
-- Will Rogers
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From: hellraiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Things I don't get...
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:49:53 -0400
Greg F Walz Chojnacki wrote:
>
> I'm looking for information on the following three topics:
>
> 1) Dependencies
> I've been having trouble RPMing some packages; I'm getting dependency
> errors. Is there some source that describes this problem in general
> terms? I know I have to load new libraries, but I'm not sure where
> to get them, where the old ones reside on my installtion...
>
> 2) Xwindows
> I have it running, but don't really understand the relationship
> between XFree86, fvwm (e.g.), gnome, enlightenment, the architecture,
> generally. And I sure as hell don't know how to configure the menus,
> e.g. how to tell it how to put a menu item for loading Netscape.
> (Currently, I load it from a terminal commmand line.)
x is a protocol. a server is a program that runs x... there are several
servers, xfree86 being a free one commonly used on linux and other unix
variants.
the window manager handles hundreds of events and functions from key
presses, mouse clicks, draws frames/borders around the windows, and adds
color to x. a window manager, therefore, is virtually required when in
x. fvwm, twm, enlightenment, afterstep, etc. are all window managers.
gnome and kde are desktop enviornments, which enhance a window manager
and also make it more user-friendly and (ugh) windoze-like.
> 3) How to install apps without RPM.
> I think I have the general idea, but I don't think I know the best
> places to install, and particularly how to install apps so that
> multiple users can run them.
the slackware distribution (which is the one i use) comes with an app
called rpm2tgz, which converts rpm's to tgz's.
> I suppose this is probably a book's worth of questions. Can anyone recommend
> a title?
o'rielly makes the best books... goto orielly.com and check them out
> I'm and orphaned OS/2 user trying to migrate to Linux. I have it running,
> but want to really get on top of it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
> --
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> http://www.uwm.edu/News/ FAX:414/229-6443
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branimir Dolicki)
Subject: Re: Samba and Windows98
Date: 19 Apr 1999 20:43:10 GMT
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:58:23 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have some samba shares that work fine with Windows95. I've also a Windows98
>machine that I want to give access to those shares, but I can't I always. It
>always says that the password is incorrect. But if I logon from a Win95 it all
>works correctly. My configuration for that share is as follows:
Read ENCRYPTION.txt from the Samba distribution. The problem is with
encrypted passwords.
-- Branimir
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (TonyC)
Subject: Re: What-ya-ma-callit
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:09:58 +0100
Thanks to all for the help.
I'll read about the newer way of IP -Masquerading until I can buy SuSe 6.1
and try it for real.
Thanks again
TonyC
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Mounting windows NTFS drive
Date: 19 Apr 1999 22:09:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7ffjpj$lik$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Uhhh, NTFS != mdos/fat/vfat. There is no support for NTFS in the 2.0
> series kernels which Redhat 5.x ships with. If you upgrade to 2.2.x, you
> can mount NTFS read-only.
There's also experimental read/write NTFS support in 2.2.x, but as it's
experimental, it shouldn't be trusted.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: FTP problems
Date: 19 Apr 1999 23:23:02 GMT
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:57:02 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have installed Red Hat Linux 5.2 on a machine and seem to have a problem
> ftping telneting to the machines.
>
> When I try to ftp into on of the boxes I immediatly get a
>
> "Connected to 208.4.107.241
> Escape character is '^]'"
>
> and then nothing happens for almost a minute (I timed it to be close to 54
> seconds) then I get a login prompt.
>
> I have tried connecting to the Linux boxes from Windows boxes, Sun boxes, and
> other Linux boxes.
>
> From the Linux box, I am able to connect to the Sun box and get a login prompt
> within a few seconds. From the same Sun box, it take a minute to get a login
> prompt.
>
> Is there perhaps something that I need to add to the Linux box configuration
> files to speed up the connection time?
Fix your name service: the timeout is the Linux box trying to resolve
the address of the connecting machine. (The Solaris box should do the
same, but comes broken out of the box and doesn't.)
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Adam C. Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:43:40 GMT
Harry Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You know, you're right. A piece of software that allows you to surf the
> render HTML including all industry standard tags
Ever heard of CSS? Opera comes closest to rendering all standard
tags.
> interpret embedded Java scrips and run Java applets really isn't worth
> anything.
Especially when the browser crashes.
--
Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.calvin.edu/~aemers19/
Movesource Network Systems Specialist
"Cogito ergo I'm right and you're wrong." -- Blair P. Houghton
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From: Adam C. Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please suggest a smaller WWW browser.
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:48:05 GMT
Pedro R. Andrade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You may always use lynx. You'll see no pictures though.
> Pedro Andrade
Just stick zgv in your .mailcap file.
--
Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.calvin.edu/~aemers19/
Movesource Network Systems Specialist
"Cogito ergo I'm right and you're wrong." -- Blair P. Houghton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wolf)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.amin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Printing with IP in Linux
Date: 21 Apr 1999 10:54:29 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Douglas A. Haines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Folks,
>I have my Linux box networking with TCP/IP pretty good at this point,
>but I cannot figure out how to get a printer configured through the
>spooler that prints to an IP address. I have a LinkSys Pocket print
>server that has an IP address and I can print to this through WinDoze
>via TCP/IP. I recently purchased a book on Linux Secrets and it does
>not give me the secret on setting up TCP/IP printers (I guess doing this
>is a secret in itself). I'm running RedHat 5.1 with a 2.0.34 kernel.
>Any information is helpful. Thanks.
>
>Doug Haines
I set up TCP/IP printing using Red Hat 4.2 to an HP JetDirect that was
configured for TCP/IP printing and it went pretty easily.
If you have X set up and working, login as root, start x and use the
control panel thing, that is how I did it and I had it working in 10
minutes with no prior experience on this sort of thing...
--
Wolf
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Anthony J. Gabrielson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running X apps remotely
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:38:25 -0400
well you all you have to type is xhost + - thats all that is needed.
however that isn't secure so you should type xhost +your ip. the howto
file gets into the gory security details.
Anthony
On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Andrew D Matuszak wrote:
> You should use ssh if at all possible. Not only will you be more secure,
> ssh can be set up to forward X11. Kill two birds with one stone.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Daniel Bradley wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to be able to telnet in to my linux server at
> > >the office (from my linux box at home), and run X apps
> > >remotely with the screen output showing up here (after
> > >typing "export DISPLAY=<my ip address>:0.0"). This is how I
> > >do this on my NT box, which is running a freeware X server.
> >
> > Create an /etc/X0.hosts file on your Linux Box at home (the one you
> > want to run the X-Server on. And add the address of the machine (maybe
> > IP) at
> > work.
> >
> > I think you maybe able call it Xhosts but I forget. The 0 is for
> > display 0 I think. Have a look at the Xserver man page, I think this
> > is where I found the info.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Daniel.
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > To email me, please remove "notinnedmeat" from address
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From: Kevin Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Problems with xconsole on RH-5.2
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:17:52 -0500
Whenever I try to run a console under X by running 'xconsole', I
get the following error in the console window:
"Couldn't open console"
This happens if I am logged in as a regular user but if I log in
as root everything is ok.
Is there a way to allow a regular user to access the console
automatically when running X.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
--
Regards,
Kevin Reid
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From: Thomas Keats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,news.admin.net-abuse.email
Subject: Re: Bad Experience With ComputerWarehouse.com
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 06:41:48 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marty Allred wrote:
> In article <7el9q2$ogj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I know alot of us are out building our own servers and workstations.
> >
> > Here's an unfortunate experience I had with one vendor:
> >
> > ComputerWarehouse (www.computerwarehouse.com)
> >
> --snip--
>
> Out here where ComputerWarehouse is a local business (Sacramento, CA), it is
> commonly referred to as Computer Whorehouse. Based on a comment from one of
> their former employees, I went in with their ad in hand to get a great price
> on a motherboard. "Oh, sorry, it isn't in stock, would you like this other
> one instead?" I told them no and left. After about 10 minutes, a coworker of
> mine went in without the ad, acted like he didn't know which motherboard he
> wanted and worked it so that they sold him the one that was in the ad, but
> for about $20 more. When he pulled the ad out of his pocket to get the sale
> price, the sales clerk got pissed off at him.
>
> They have a reputation for unethical/illegal practices, really poor technical
> support and bad/used merchandise.
in a word. PATHETIC!!!
One wonders why they are still in business?
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From: "Kari E. Hurtta" <hurtta+usenet @ozone.FMI.FI>
Crossposted-To:
comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.mh,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Email with Earthlink, Sendmail, exmh, mh, Linux libc5
Date: 22 Apr 1999 12:54:34 +0300
In article <7f8odt$936$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger) writes:
> > So what you're saying is that you want a configuration that lets you use
> > a bogus address. In that case, you're going to have to change EARTHLINK'S
> > sendmail.cf file; no amount of changing your own sendmail.cf will help you
> > do that. It is EARTHLINK'S sendmail that is rejecting your message. Every
> > time you send e-mail through Earthlink that has a bogus From address, the
> > Earthlink mailer will reject it and send it back to you.
>
> No, I need to rig sendmail.cf so that gulf.net and AOL truly consider me
> as part of Earthlink. Freddie.jamstar.com is my home machine. I've asked
> this several times. Trust me, you're *NOT* helping.
Trust me. Freddie.jamstar.com does not exists on Internet:
hurtta@ozone:~> nslookup -q=any freddie.jamstar.com
Server: ozone.fmi.fi
Address: 0.0.0.0
*** ozone.fmi.fi can't find freddie.jamstar.com: Non-existent host/domain
hurtta@ozone:~>
/ Kari Hurtta
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: bzImage problems
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:16:26 -0600
C. David Wilde wrote:
>
> The other thing that I'm wondering is when I do a make zImage it creates a
> file called vmlinuz in the /usr/src/llinux/arch/i386/boot dir, but when I do
> a make bzImage it creates the file called bzImage.
Yes.
Is that a problem? It seems to work here; you just have to
make sure lilo can find it.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTP server with LDAP integration
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:18:39 GMT
Hello,
Does anyone know any FTP server capable of authenticating users against
a LDAP (Lightweight Directory Access Protocol) Server?
Thank you very much.
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From: shu ling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Ramdisk size
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:51:12 +0800
I've tried that before but still doesn't work.
Tein H. Yuan(�K���A) wrote:
> shu ling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I've already put the word "ramdisk=8192" in /etc/lilo.conf and when I
> : try to create a ext2 filesystem > 4M on /dev/ram, mke2fs complains
> : "filesystem larger than apparent filesystem". And later if I copy files
> : larger than 4M, I found I/O errors logs of /dev/ram in
> : /var/log/messages.
> : How can create a ramdisk and make a ext2 filesystem on it?
>
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> <-- 8192KB
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (miiHKali)
Subject: postmaster problem!
Date: 22 Apr 1999 06:35:51 GMT
Yesterday postmaster was working fine, but now I get an error:
FATAL: StreamServerPort: bind() failed: errno=13
Is another postmaster already running on that port?
If not, remove socket node (/tmp/.s.PGSQL.<portnr>)and retry.
postmaster: cannot create UNIX stream port
There's no other postmaster running on *any* port, and there's no such file
as /tmp/.s.PGSQL.<portnr>. postmaster won't start on another port either, I
get the same error.
What should I / can I do?
--
--
miiHKali
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From: jmsalvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ncftp tries downloading older files, older than specified with -n
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:33:50 GMT
I have this specified in my ~/.ncftp/macros for a particular a kernel mirror
site:
get -n 15 patch-2.2.*
This tells ncftp to download only files beginning with patch-2.2 that are no
more than 15 days old.
However, when I ncftp -L -a to the specified ftp site, the macros get executed
okay, but 'get' was *trying* to download files much older than 15 days.
Already have patch-2.2.5.gz.
Already have patch-2.2.5.gz.sign.
Already have patch-2.2.6.gz.
Already have patch-2.2.6.gz.sign.
,... even though patch-2.2.5* are dated March 29 and today is April 22,
definitely beyond 15 days. It did though saw that patch-2.2.4* are older than
15 days.
This is what ncftp -D (with debug) says:
< snip >
#DB# RCmd: "SIZE patch-2.2.4.gz.sign"
213: 344
#DB# RCmd: "MDTM patch-2.2.4.gz.sign"
213: 19990323223318
#DB# Used SIZE: yes. Used MDTM: yes.
#DB# Size: 344
#DB# Mdtm: Wed Mar 24 09:33:18 1999
#DB# Skipping patch-2.2.4.gz.sign, older than 15 days.
#DB# RCmd: "SIZE patch-2.2.5.gz"
213: 98116
#DB# RCmd: "MDTM patch-2.2.5.gz"
213: 19990329065403
#DB# Used SIZE: yes. Used MDTM: yes.
#DB# Size: 98116
#DB# Mdtm: Mon Mar 29 16:54:03 1999
#DB# Local file patch-2.2.5.gz has size 98116 and is dated Mon Mar 29 16:54:03
1999
Already have patch-2.2.5.gz.
#DB# RCmd: "SIZE patch-2.2.5.gz.sign"
213: 344
#DB# RCmd: "MDTM patch-2.2.5.gz.sign"
213: 19990329065403
#DB# Used SIZE: yes. Used MDTM: yes.
#DB# Size: 344
< snip >
Is this a bug with ncftp????
Running ncftp-2.4.3
Thanks,
John Salvo
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From: "Oliver D. Bedford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: XEmacs & LaTeX
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:39:52 +0200
Hi!
I�m having a problem with latex-mode: xemacs 20.4 does not display the
menus
usually associated with latex-mode. What�s wrong?
TIA,
Oliver
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:45:21 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X Programming
David M. Cook wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:22:02 -0700, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Learning Xlib is completely unnecessary,
>
> >Oh really, what planet are you from?
>
> Well, you tell us why learning Xlib is useful to anyone but toolkit and
> window manager writers. Some of the concepts are important, but you don't
> need to learn Xlib to pick those up.
Because no one toolkit offers all the widgets you will ever need plain
and simple. Because even if you use those toolkits, the chances of you
needing at least some low level access in your programming is very
high. Especially if you want to do something which requires any
optimisations, or using extensions.
Also, if you want to use properties and Atoms your going to need Xlib.
Xt offers some convenience functions for some of the uses of those
items, but it does not offer a complete API. You still need
XChangeProperty, XInternAtom, etc....
The only situation were you DON'T need Xlib is very simple
applications,...and even those often need Xlib if they do anything
remotely special.
You don't have to be an expert like window manager and toolkit
programmers,...but you DO need to be familiar with the library or your
pretty well screwed.
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