Linux-Misc Digest #927, Volume #25 Tue, 3 Oct 00 00:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Adding Programs to the Desktop Menu (Garry Knight)
Re: mounting linux from windows? (Garry Knight)
readline and .inputrc (Garry Knight)
Re: Rewiring my PC for separate Linux and Win disk drives (Robert Jones)
Re: Implications (Kaz Kylheku)
Recording audio output to disk? (William McBrine)
Re: CD ROM Mount Problem RedHat 6.2 ("ascii7")
Re: lilo.conf (Peter Bishop)
Re: Rewiring my PC for separate Linux and Win disk drives (psc)
Intel CA810EAL video? (Raymond Blum)
Re: makefile (David M. Cook)
Re: Rewiring my PC for separate Linux and Win disk drives (Jon McLin)
Re: Should I jump into Linux? (Trevor Brown)
Re: Internet connection through Linux (Dances With Crows)
Re: *SIGH*No print preview in NS/Linux?
Re: Thanks (Bob Martin)
Re: Large file system (David M. Cook)
Laptop w/sound--how to turn of microphone? (Jerome Mrozak)
Re: AMD anytime? (Bob Martin)
What do I do with EXIM on a laptop? (Jerome Mrozak)
Question: Max number of uses that can be created on linux (Bing H Bang)
Re: help make xconfig (Bob Martin)
Re: Intel CA810EAL video? (Robert Lynch)
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adding Programs to the Desktop Menu
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 00:48:17 +0100
On Mon, 02 Oct 2000, mike wrote:
>Hi,
> I am using Redhat 6.1. I would like to know how to
>add additional programs to the Gnome window manager
>and KDE window manager.
Gnome: gmenu
KDE: kmenuedit
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Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mounting linux from windows?
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 01:03:12 +0100
On Mon, 02 Oct 2000, Craig Foote wrote:
>Anyone know the name or location of that explorer-like windows app that
>would read (only) a linux partition?
Do you mean explore2fs? Try here: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux
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Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: readline and .inputrc
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 02:08:43 +0100
I'm running GNU bash, version 2.04.3(1) in a Helix Gnome xterm under
Mandrake7.1 (Linux 2.2.15-4mdk).
I prefer to have the DEL key perform delete-char rather than
backward-delete-char on the command line, so I created ~/.inputrc with the
following line:
DEL: delete-char
then did C-X C-R to get bash to read .initrc.
However, the DEL key still does a backward-delete-char even if I close down
the xterm and reopen it. And logging out and logging back in didn't change
anything. DEL does work in the text consoles, just not in Gnome's xterm.
Have I got the assignment syntax wrong in .inputrc? Or is there something about
xterm that overrides bash's default behaviour? Should I be going at this at a
lower level, with xmodmap, say?
--
Garry Knight
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rewiring my PC for separate Linux and Win disk drives
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:20:34 -0500
psc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm building up a PC and want to have Linux (probably RH 6.2) and Win2K
> on separate hard drives. Since I intentionally want to have each OS on
> its own hard drive, as opposed to a dual-booting Linux/Win2K drive, I'm
> thinking of making a power wire splitter and switch assembly, so I'll
> have an OS selector switch on the front of my PC. I believe on IDE
> drives I can leave the signal wire connectors always connected and
> rewire the power wires so my switch causes only the drive of my choice
> to power up. Has anyone done this, or have any comments?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
I tried that scheme with Win3.1 and Win95 several years and several
motherboards ago. The result I got was that if either IDE drive was
missing power, the machine wouldn't boot at all. Yours might work fine
but I'd sure try connecting both drives and pulling the power plugs one at
a time before wiring in a switch.
Right now, I have Win95 and RH6 on separate drives and the dual boot works
fine. Rather, it worked fine last time I booted Windows -- which appears
to have been Sept 2 at 4:15 PM. Besides the lack of custom wiring, dual
boot has the advantage of allowing you to access Windows data files from
Linux.
Good luck, whichever way you go!
--
This fortune is encrypted -- get your decoder rings ready!
8:06pm up 5 days, 5 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 01:35:05 GMT
On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:58:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Buried in the excesses of my deranged thinking, I wrote down something
>that looks like this:
>
> X --> P --> E
>
>How amazingly deranged.
That is not deranged, but so simplistic as to be too laughably obvious and
useless to anyone who has ever configured a computer. You take some software
X, put it into store P and you have configuration E. Hmm, I think that's not
clear enough, so let's draw a box and arrow diagram! Got any chalk?
I think the deranged part was comparing your installation to having sex.
You need to stop diddling your computer and start taking your medication. :)
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From: William McBrine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Recording audio output to disk?
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 01:44:02 GMT
I want to make a direct digital copy of the audio output, similar to what
Total Recorder does in Windows. Any pointers?
--
William McBrine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "ascii7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: CD ROM Mount Problem RedHat 6.2
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 01:52:06 GMT
What command are you using to mount the CD?
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm a Linux newbie switching from WinNT to Red Hat 6.2. The Red Hat
> installed perfectly from a CDROM that came with the Osborne book. I
> created the boot disk from the CD ROM on WinNT and then installed the
> Linux 6.2 system.
>
> I can mount floppies, but cannot mont the same (or any other) CD ROM
> to get to the RPMs. I get the message "Wrong medium type" when I try
> to mount the cdrom.
>
> Any ideas or help will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
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From: Peter Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo.conf
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 01:56:02 GMT
Chris Marquardt wrote:
>
> Peter Bishop wrote:
>
> > please post the contents of your /etc/lilo.conf file
> >
> > Chris Marquardt wrote:
> > >
> > > I just installed RedHat 6.1. I can't seem to get it to boot dos. I
> > > configured /etc/lilo.conf so that it would boot dos, but it gives me
> > > an error telling me the partition does not have a system on it to
> > > boot. It does have an OS on it. It will boot off of a floppy. I just
> > > can't get it to boot from the hard drive.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Chris Marquardt
> >
> > --
> > "In a world without walls and fences...
> > Who needs Windows and Gates?"
>
> I'm at work and not at my PC. However, I beleive it looks something like
> this:
>
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> default=linux
> prompt
> timeout=50
> other=/dev/hda6
> label=dos
>
> I often wonder if there is a problem with where the dos partiction lies on
> the 20 Gig disk and or if I need to add
>
> table=/dev/hda
>
> to /etc/lilo.conf
>
> Chris
Yeah... I would try that. Make sure that your /etc/fstab file agrees
with what you are telling LILO (i.e., windoze really does live on
/dev/hda6). Then check the partitions with fdisk:
$> fdisk /dev/hda
Command (m for help): p
this will print the partitions on /dev/hda
Hopefully that will give you the info you need!
Good Luck
-Pete
--
"In a world without walls and fences...
Who needs Windows and Gates?"
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From: psc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rewiring my PC for separate Linux and Win disk drives
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:14:52 -0700
Robert Jones wrote:
> psc wrote:
>
>
> > have an OS selector switch on the front of my PC. I believe on IDE
> > drives I can leave the signal wire connectors always connected and
> > rewire the power wires so my switch causes only the drive of my choice
> > to power up. Has anyone done this, or have any comments?
>
> I tried that scheme with Win3.1 and Win95 several years and several
> motherboards ago. The result I got was that if either IDE drive was
> missing power, the machine wouldn't boot at all. Yours might work fine
> but I'd sure try connecting both drives and pulling the power plugs one at
> a time before wiring in a switch.
Good point.
> Right now, I have Win95 and RH6 on separate drives and the dual boot works
> fine. Rather, it worked fine last time I booted Windows -- which appears
> to have been Sept 2 at 4:15 PM. Besides the lack of custom wiring, dual
> boot has the advantage of allowing you to access Windows data files from
> Linux.
The reason I want different disk drives for the different OSes is that this is
going
to be a play machine for me and the pals. I'm not worried about sharing files
between OSes, mainly just to learn on. Plus, the switch concept is bound to
grow to 3 or 4 disk drives to allow for several flavors of Linux on the same
box.
Thanks,
Paul
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From: Raymond Blum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Intel CA810EAL video?
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:44:26 -0400
Hi
I just got a new server with an Intel CA810EAL motherboard. The
machine seems great so far but I am having trouble getting my X
configuration figured out for the on-board video adapter.
I am installing RedHat 6.2 and Xconfigurator makes it's suggestions,
which I take, but when I try to start X I get the msg "/dev/agp..." not
found.
Can anyone tell me a compatible card, etc. setting to use? The machine
will be a server and usually headless so I don't care if the display is
high-color and pretty, I just need 800x600x256 or better.
--
Cheers,
Raymond Blum
VP of System Architecture
Askit.com
212 414-9590
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: makefile
Date: 3 Oct 2000 02:52:22 GMT
On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 15:48:26 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>directory, how do i run the Makefile?. By typing "make" or "./make" in
>the same directory?. Or by typing "make arrow.c" in the same
>directory....?.
Just
make
make will look for the makefiles GNUmakefile, makefile, and Makefile, in
that order.
If you want to run make on a particular file, leave off the extension, e.g.
make arrow
Dave Cook
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:55:03 -0700
From: Jon McLin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rewiring my PC for separate Linux and Win disk drives
> Just put in one of those IDE disk swap drawers. About $10 US for the mount,
> another $10 for each drawer. It's what we do at work for reconfigurable
> machines.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor Brown)
Subject: Re: Should I jump into Linux?
Date: 3 Oct 2000 02:46:14 GMT
Andrew ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: -I've read and watched all the excitement about Linux, and I'm wondering
: what advantages installing Linux would offer to someone like me?
: -I'm a TA, and I have to use a Unix spreadsheet program called Xess. My
: Microsoft spreadsheet program doesn't seem to be compatible. Is there a
: Linux equivalent that is freely availble that would be compatible to Xess?
: -Is most Linux software free? More specifically, I have to write my
: thesis using LaTex. Is there a Linux version of Tex that is free?
Most Linux software is free, yes. Basically, you need to download it... a
Linux distribution will provide a fair amount of sofware. Yes, there is a
Linux version of Tex that is free, only I've never used it, so I can't say
more than that.
: The bottom line, is that I'm not a Windows hater or Windows lover.
: I use my computer as a tool to get information and get my work done.
: Would Linux be a good step for me to take?
The hardest thing is getting it installed... oh, and make sure you install
as much as you possibly can... I did an "everything" install, and I'm
running Redhat Linux 6.2. Installing "everything" means you don't have to
worry about whether you have the necessary tools later... like to compile
software, and so on. Of coure, you will need enough disk space to do all
of this. Once you've installed, things should look very similar to the
UNIX you've worked with before. Linux is basically UNIX for a PC.
: Thanks for any help you could give me....Andrew
--
Trevor
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Internet connection through Linux
Date: 3 Oct 2000 03:01:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:30:11 -0000, John Pollard wrote:
>
>If you have a Winmodem you will probably not be able to use that modem
>with Linux.
...unless it's made by Lucent. Find that info out by using the Device
Mangler in Win9x and looking for "Manufacturer"; Lucent shows up as
"LT". Or just "cat /proc/pci" and look for "Lucent". You can find info
about what you need to do for a Lucent Losemodem at http://linmodems.org/
>bought an external serial modem and it works great. (I can connect to the
>internet, authenticate, and log on, but I still can't get Netscape to go
>anywhere!)
If Netscrape says "Warning: The following hosts are unknown: foo.com"
when you try to connect, your DNS servers are set up incorrectly. You
can fix this by asking your ISP what their DNS numbers are (if you can
find a support tech who knows DNS from a hole in the ground!) Then you
can add those numbers directly to /etc/resolv.conf by editing that file
with a text editor (pico is nice for new users) and adding the following
lines:
nameserver 111.222.333.444
nameserver 555.666.777.888
Replace those bogus numbers with the ones your ISP gives you, natch.
Recent versions of pppd have something called "usepeerdns" which
eliminates the need to do this, but I haven't played with that.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: *SIGH*No print preview in NS/Linux?
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 03:05:07 -0000
On 30 Sep 2000 13:42:47 -0400, Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Check the "print to file" button in the dialog box, enter the file
>name, save the pages, and then use psselect or pstops from the psutils
>package available with most CD distros and from most FTP archives) to
>select the pages to print, and use ghostscript/ghostview to preview
>the output.
>
>Alternatively, in the File/Save... dialog box, chooss "Postscript"
>from the menu, and proceed as above.
This is also useful when you want to save a particular
webpage into an atomic format.
[deletia]
--
Never face facts; if you do you'll never get up in the morning.
-- Marlo Thomas
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thanks
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:06:05 -0500
Nightshade wrote:
>
> mmm now I have windows and linux what other os can i pu t on my computer??
>
> Anywere thanks goto go now.
>
> laters
>
> Nightshade
You might find some stuff here...
http://www.freeos.com/
--
Bob Martin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Large file system
Date: 3 Oct 2000 03:09:30 GMT
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:34:21 -0600, Michael Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>My question is this.. since 7.0 is out, and it uses Kernel 2.4 - is the
>large file system stuff built into the kernel now?
RH 7 uses kernel 2.2.16 by default. However, it does come with an
"enterprise" version of the kernel wich has the large file support as well
as large memory support (2G RAM, 4G virtual memory total). It's on the
first CD (kernel-enterprise-2.2.16-22.i686.rpm).
>I am afraid if the LFS isnt implemented as a standard, Linux is going to run
>into a lot of problems, because 2 gigs is NOT big enough in this day and
>age, especially for enterprise servers...
Red Hat has had kernels with lfs for some time, both as part of a product
with commercial support, and as a free download:
http://www.redhat.com/products/software/linux/eeoracle/features.html
http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/enterprise/RHSA-2.2.16-4.lfs.html
But this is really neither here nor there, because even if the kernel has
lfs support, you're database server must be compiled to support it (man open
and look for O_LARGEFILE). And in all likelihood it is not (Oracle 8.1.6 is
not, for instance. Oracle has promised large file support for a later
release.)
Dave Cook
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From: Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Laptop w/sound--how to turn of microphone?
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:15:12 -0500
I've a ThinkPad with essSolo sound card. I can get the sound working.
The microphone is also enabled, but I don't use it. But it feeds back
the speaker sound and I'm without _effective_ sound.
Under Window$ the mike is off, how under Linux?
Thanks,
Jerome.
--
Jerome Mrozak "Never buy a dog and bark for yourself"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] --"Slippery" Jim DiGriz
(the Stainless Steel Rat)
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD anytime?
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:11:56 -0500
eric turbide wrote:
>
> I am a total Linux beginner and i think i will prove that with the
> following query...I read in my management information systems manual
> taht Linux runs on Intel, Motorola, Digital Alpha, SPARC and Mips
> microchips.Why doesn't Linux on AMD-K6 microchips? Is it a technical
> incompatibility or a legal matter?
>
> Greatful in advance,
>
> Patrick Turbide
By Intel they usually mean any x86 compatible CPU, like AMD, Cyrix etc.
--
Bob Martin
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From: Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: What do I do with EXIM on a laptop?
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:19:25 -0500
I've just installed a Debian system and its primary email program seems
to be the exim package.
My primary experience to date has been with Windows, and I use Navigator
to handle my email, etc. It means I've not administered my own mail
before.
I'm aware that my own system will send me mail (login attempts, etc).
Does this mean I need a mail handler installed, or can I just install a
mail reader like pine?
Thanks,
Jerome.
--
Jerome Mrozak "Never buy a dog and bark for yourself"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] --"Slippery" Jim DiGriz
(the Stainless Steel Rat)
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From: Bing H Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question: Max number of uses that can be created on linux
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 08:47:28 -0400
Is it 65535?
What if I need more? Can I cluster multiple machines together to make it
look like one machine then put 65535 users on each machine?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Bing
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help make xconfig
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:26:09 -0500
Dave Stanton wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> When you start up make xconfig, there are settings already in it, are these
> taken from the last kernel make ?.
> Or are they default settings coded into it ?.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave
>
First time it will be defaults, after that it is taken from the .config
file in the linux source directory ( assuming you saved the config )
--
Bob Martin
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Intel CA810EAL video?
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:32:37 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Raymond Blum wrote:
>
> Hi
> I just got a new server with an Intel CA810EAL motherboard. The
> machine seems great so far but I am having trouble getting my X
> configuration figured out for the on-board video adapter.
>
> I am installing RedHat 6.2 and Xconfigurator makes it's suggestions,
> which I take, but when I try to start X I get the msg "/dev/agp..." not
> found.
>
> Can anyone tell me a compatible card, etc. setting to use? The machine
> will be a server and usually headless so I don't care if the display is
> high-color and pretty, I just need 800x600x256 or better.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Raymond Blum
> VP of System Architecture
> Askit.com
>
> 212 414-9590
My system has an 810. If yours is set up like mine then you need
to have/compile the kernel module agpart.o. The device in
XF86Config is:
===
...
Section "Device"
Identifier "Intel 810"
VendorName "Intel"
BoardName "810"
# 5-11-00 try adding power saving option
Option "power_saver"
VideoRam 4096
EndSection
...
===
The 3.3.x server is XF86_SVGA
Feel free to contact me by e-mail if this is insufficient.
HTH. Bob
L.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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