Linux-Misc Digest #927, Volume #20 Mon, 5 Jul 99 09:13:16 EDT
Contents:
Re: first/second/third world (Richard Kulisz)
Linux vs Solaris ("Paul")
Re: Where can I get free Linux CD? (James Knott)
Re: Olden Days. Was Re: Where can I get free Linux CD? (James Knott)
Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX (Leila Schneberger)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: 5 Jul 1999 11:20:39 GMT
In article <9NXf3.1297$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Seebach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <7lmo1e$onv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>A deterministic theory + initial conditions constitutes a complete
>>description of the universe. A nondeterministic theory needs a *hell*
>>of a lot of added baggage to completely describe the universe.
>
>Not necessarily. Which is more complicated, a table of 200 integers
>from 1 to 6 inclusive, or the advice "roll a die 200 times"?
You've managed to switch everything around. In order to completely
describe reality, Kobenhavn needs a table of 200 integers from 1 to
6. Many-worlds doesn't because it merely says "first you have *all*
the integers from one to six, then you have all the integers from
one to six, then you ahve all the integers from one to six, ...."
A nondeterministic theory needs the extra baggage of an exhaustive
tabulation of every particle at every point in spacetime, in order
to completely describe the universe. A deterministic theory just
needs the initial conditions and the laws by which they evolve.
>I'm not the one who, with no background at all in physics, is telling
>everyone which of the people with 10-20+ years in the field are right
>and which are wrong. :)
I see you remain consistent in your usage of wild and unwarranted
assumptions.
>>Because this isn't a question about physics but about sociology and
>>philosophy.
>
>Only if the observers matter; otherwise, it's a question about physics. ;)
Don't be such a moron, Peter. Philosophy (of science) is relevant
because that's what you're getting into when you suggest giving up
determinism. Sociology is relevant because it explains why an error
by von Neumann managed to fuck up the field for almost a century.
>>Moreover, the *correct* experts are quantum cosmologists,
>>not your run of the mill idiot quantum physicist whose big answer to
>>questions of interpretation is "shut up, you're giving me a headache",
>>and they seem to reject the Kobenhavn stupidity.
>
>In other words, you've decided to pick a side in an argument. Why do you
In other words, some people don't bother even *thinking* about
interpretations of quantum mechanics so why the hell should they
get to decide what's what on the subject?
>care? Let them fuss and do research and change their minds every few years,
>it seems to be what makes physicists happy.
Kobenhavn is rampant idiocy, and its being taught does incalculable harm
to physics; both because new physicists have their minds fucked over and
because of the confusion and backlash from the general population having
their minds fucked with.
>I hope you realize that I periodically tell people who work in the media about
>your pronouncements about Chomsky, because sometimes, a belly laugh is the
>best medicine for what ails you.
That media is replete with assholes and idiots isn't news to me.
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From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Linux vs Solaris
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:45:07 +0100
I'm building a mission-critical high throughput OLTP application which
required considerable scalability. I'm trying to choose between Linux and
Solaris for the operating system.
Does anyone have any views on this matter?
Any help or advice appreciated.
Thanks
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where can I get free Linux CD?
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 10:53:44 -0400
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <tjgf3.291$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) wrote:
>On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 14:14:26 -0400, James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>Go to www.linuxmall.com. They have CDs for $1.89 plus shipping
>>
>>Or do what I did. Download the ISO image, and burn a CD.
>
>Only $1 for the CD-R, but $300 for the burner...
We have a couple of burners at work.
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IBM Canada Ltd.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Olden Days. Was Re: Where can I get free Linux CD?
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 10:56:05 -0400
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The Data General computers had the program load option installed, so
you only had to enter the device address and boot. The PDP-8 required
a "rim loader" to be toggled in. On my Imsai, I installed an EPROM
board, which I put a loader on, along with video drivers etc.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DeAnn Iwan) wrote:
>On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 14:08:34 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <K8Ac3.88257$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) wrote:
>>
>>>ASSEMBLER is a language. Any language that can take a half-dozen keystrokes
>>>and compile it down to one byte of code is all right in my books. Though
>>>for the REAL programmer, assembler is a waste of time. Why use a compiler
>>>when you can code directly into memory through a front panel.
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
>>
>>I used to do that sitting at the front panel of my IMSAI 8080, many
>>years ago. Also did it in front of a Data General Nova 800 at work.
>>
>
> All I ever had to punch in on the front panel was a small
>bootstrap that booted the machine enough to read paper tape.
>(For an 8K HP minicomputer I was using to do some
>physics research as a student. It used to have chips work
>lose from thermal cycling. So I would take a screw driver
>with me to the computer room to open up the case so I
>could repair the machine. One day while I was working, a prof
>brought in a group of visiting high school students to show
>them around. He introduced me as a university physics student, and
>went on with his speel. The HP died, I opened the case, reseated all
>the chips and boards, and turned around to return to work....
>and found about 15 high schoolers staring at me in a sort of open
>mouthed horrified awe. I very cooly sat down and restarted my
>program.
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From: Leila Schneberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 07:39:02 -0500
Leonard Evens wrote:
> There is another problem with tetex. It doesn't by default
> create some of the typical .fmt files, e.g., amstex, eplain,
> and texinfo. However, you can create these by running
> (example for amstex)
> tex --ini /usr/share/texmf/tex/amstex/config/amstex.ini
> This will produce the file amstex.fmt, which should end up
> in /usr/share/texmf/web2c
I ran this for amstex, but it looks like they're all in different directories.
How do I know which ones I need?
> There is also another possible source of problems if the
> above does not apply to you. Because of the reorganization,
> it is possible that you will have to reset TEXINPUTS to an
> appropriate string if you had previously set it. If you had
> not previously set it and were using the default, this should
> not be the source of your problem.
This was not set.
> --
>
> Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
Now I've run into another problem. I'm trying to install TeXFOTBuilder, but
when I run
the Makefile I get an error that says it can't find hugelatex.fmt.
TeXFOTBuilder will allow me to format my xml files using LaTeX. I don't
understand why it is looking for all this old stuff.
The logfile from the make says:
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3) (format=tex 1999.4.5) 4 JUL 1999
16:50
**&hugelatex jadetex.ini
(jadetex.ini (jadetex.ltx
! Undefined control sequence.
l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.10 \ProvidesFile
{jadetex.ltx}
?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.14 \documentclass
{minimal}
?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.15 \RequirePackage
{amssymb}[1995/01/01]
?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.16 \RequirePackage
{array}[1995/01/01]
?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.17 \RequirePackage
{longtable}[1995/01/01]
?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.18 \RequirePackage
{color}[1997/09/09]
?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.19 \RequirePackage
{graphicx}[1997/06/09]
?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.20 \IfFileExists
{multicol.sty}
?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.21 {\RequirePackage
{multicol}[1997/12/16]}
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