Linux-Misc Digest #927, Volume #26 Fri, 26 Jan 01 17:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Bill Unruh)
Re: Getting tar to work! (Johan Kullstam)
Re: DOS, WIN98 and LINUX ?! (Harlan Grove)
Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors?? (Steve Ackman)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Craig Kelley)
Re: linux drivers for Adaptec 19160 SCSI controller? ("Bill")
Re: Can Linux read Windows CD ? (Markku Kolkka)
Re: Help Cant work in Gnome (Markku Kolkka)
Re: Student Suspended Over Suspected Use of PHP (Joachim Feise)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Utility for finding absolute path of file? ("Brian Dellert")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: DOS, WIN98 and LINUX ?! (Grant Edwards)
Re: iptables & 2.4.0 ("Hallvor Engen")
Re: Keyboard seting problem (Markku Kolkka)
make menuconfig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
ls colors ("Jeff")
undoing an rpm? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Harlan Grove)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Vilmos Soti)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Harlan Grove)
Re: linux drivers for Adaptec 19160 SCSI controller? (Milton)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: How to Install XWIN in RedHat (Markku Kolkka)
Tool needed: Memory leaks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Erik Funkenbusch")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 20:06:13 GMT
In <94si7f$7nq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
] Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
]...
]>This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
]>door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
]>how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
]>and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
]Don't believe in copyright, do you? The license is pretty clear.Don't
]blame Microsoft for enforcing their legal rights. If you don't like it,
]don't use it. If you oppose copyrights in general, work for changes in
]the law.
And what do you do when the lawmakers are corrupt? Much of the copyright
policy is being dictated by large corporations with the money to spend
on political activity.
Copyright was originally to protect the maker for the purpose of
encouraging the creation of products. There is not evidence that it
serves that purpose anymore in say software. The free software movement
shows that much software is being created where the makers explicitly
give up their control of copying. At present much copyright law is
simply corporations demanding monopoly powers from supine governments.
In the face of that civil disobedience is at least as effective as "work
for changes" is.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Getting tar to work!
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Jan 2001 15:17:17 -0500
Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > I'm familiar with Solaris, and using its tar command. I'd like to do the
> > same thing in Linux that I did in Solaris.
> >
> > What I want to do is:
> > - create a file of all the files that I want to tar up
> > - run the tar command with this flag to tar up
> > all the files.
>
> Why go via a temporary file? This is what pipes and backticks are for. But
> anyway...
>
> > In Solaris it is:
> > tar -cvf Disk1.tar -I Disk1.txt
> >
> > - create the file, verbose
> > - I means to include everything in this file
>
> Dammit! *Yesterday* I moaned about the -I flag having gone away in recent
> gnutars, and someone, bless 'em, pointed out that it's for *Solaris
> compatibility* of all things.
>
> > However, in Linux,
>
> ITYM `with gnutar < 1.13.18-2'.
>
> > I have been struggling with this for over 1/2 hour now. I can find
> > nothing in the man page or tar --help that would indicate that this is
> > possible. Is it?
> > The include list indicates everything under the subdirectory: Disk1. Is
> > there another way to do this?
>
> Why are you creating the file-list in the first place? If it's just a
> directory you want to tar up,
> tar cvf file.tar directory
> will do the trick.
i think a good use would be for backup.
find . -type f -print > tmp1
sed '/~$/d' tmp1 > tmp2
tar cvfT f.tar tmp2
because
1) you have too many files which together take up too much space to cp
-r them to another directory and prune the copy with rm.
2) your selection/pruning criterea are too complex for find's globbing
pattern matcher.
3) there are too many files for a single command line and i have no
idea if tar is amenable to xargs.
> Or how about a creative solution?
> find directory -type f | cpio -H tar -ov > file.tar
> where at least you can generate the list of files on the fly.
>
> ~Tim
> --
> 4:52pm up 31 days, 19:03, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] |`Do you mean a Lenox heating/
> http://piglet.is.dreaming.org |refrigeration unit?', he asked.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DOS, WIN98 and LINUX ?!
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:12:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Axel Bergerhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> (7. Install WinNT)
> 8. Install Linux, Lilo into MBR
...
You have lilo in the MBR and NT is OK with this? This is NOT what the
Linux+NT-Loader mini-HOWTO says. Time for a revision?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Subject: Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:35:56 -0500
On 26 Jan 2001, Lloyd Llewellyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>A lot of the traffic in this thread that dismisses the idea of a WYSIWYG web
>page design tool cite the poor quality of the code that these tools generate. I
>think it's inescapable that we will see progressively more code on the web that
>comes from these kinds of tools. Wouldn't it be best for all concerned if there
>were a graphical tool that produced correct code?
The W3C is the HTML standards body. Amaya is the W3C's testbed
browser/editor. Any HTML output by Amaya is W3C compliant.
(read "any-browser" compliant if you wish)
>If this is such an impossible technical challenge, perhaps the tool could
>implement only those features that do lend themselves to easy, correct
>generation?
Exactly what it does.
I use text editors for HTML, but if you MUST use a WYSIWYG, then
Amaya is the only way to go... perceived shortcomings and all.
http://www.w3.org/Amaya
--
Steve Ackman
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 13:23:11 -0700
Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> G'day
>
> I've been following developments closely on this.
>
> It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> to be registered....or it will cease to function.
>
> This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
> how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
> and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
>
> In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
> it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
>
> But some of my family members are reluctant to give up Windows. I may
> have to suggest to them that they pay for it in future....as I will only
> be paying for Linux software from 2001 onward.
I'm with you up until here.
> It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
>
> Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of freedom
> (European politics - outside Britain).
>
> There is an underlying cultural thing operating here somewhere...... :-)
I hope you're joking. There are probably more Americans working with
Linux and BSD than the rest of the world combined. Look at the FSF
and think about where the 'B' in BSD comes from.
Also, it isn't all rosy in Europe. Look at all the hoopla in France
about Yahoo! auctions and English websites (not to mention their
reluctance to even offer the internet because they had a
state-monopoly up until the E-deluge flooded them). Look at telco
practices in general accross Europe, the ridiculous connect rates and
taxes. Look at the corporate welfare tax on computer equipment in
Germany (including the "music filter" to "protect" artists). Look at
the Swedish attacks on flashback.
Certain countries (Norway comes to mind) are very friendly towards
choice and freedom, but not 'Europe' in general.
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: linux drivers for Adaptec 19160 SCSI controller?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:25:52 GMT
it uses the aic7xxx driver, same as the 2940 series
"Digital Puer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> From Adaptec's website, I read that they do not have a driver for
> their low-end Ultra-160 scsi controller, the 19160. Has anyone been
> able to find a suitable driver?
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can Linux read Windows CD ?
Date: 26 Jan 2001 22:15:56 +0200
Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I created a data CD in Windows.
How? Did you use packet-writing software (like DirectCD)?
> I put XFree86 4.0.2, KDE 2.0.1, and a few other stuff on it.
> Linux won't mount the CD.
> Can a data CD created in Windows be read in Linux?
Yes, if you create it correctly. You must use the ISO9660 format.
> By the way, the Linux files were downloaded while in Win2K.
I've downloaded and burned several GBs of Linux files under Win2k and
WinNT, so I know it's possible.
--
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Cant work in Gnome
Date: 26 Jan 2001 22:09:35 +0200
"NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> i have to check the version of Gnome to answer you. But my distro is RH7. is
> this of any help to you?
The version of XFree86 delivered with RH7 doesn't work properly with
Savage4 graphics chips. You can "fix" it by turning off hardware
acceleration, but that makes the display update horribly slow. There's
an updated XFree86 3.3.6 server at S3's website
(http://www.s3.com/default.asp?menu=support&submenu=S3_Graphic_Chips&item=drivers&product=Savage4_395)
that works with acceleration on, or you could try upgrading to XFree86
version 4.0.2 (from http://www.xfree86.org).
--
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Joachim Feise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.php,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Student Suspended Over Suspected Use of PHP
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:24:30 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ken Arromdee wrote:
>
> That article is a spoof. It contains other fake stories like "Microsoft
> purchases evil from Satan".
The whole site BBspot.com contains satirical articles:
http://bbspot.com/Legal/copyright.html
-Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 20:36:29 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Certain countries (Norway comes to mind) are very friendly towards
> choice and freedom, but not 'Europe' in general.
Netherlands: all the freedom of norway with 1. half the taxes and
2. more to do.
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From: "Brian Dellert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Utility for finding absolute path of file?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:41:41 GMT
Is there a utility for finding the absolute path of a file? For example:
abspath somefile
would output
/home/brian/somefile
(or whatever the absolute path is)
thanks,
brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 20:44:30 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Finally, as for US politics, better bland/boring politics and a diverse
> and vibrant society than the reverse.
I think we can all agree that what happened in florida during this past
election could be defined at the very least as a highly disorganized and
flawed state electoral system.
A scary thought is that florida may just be the mean in this circumstance.
Half the states may be worse than that.
Ah, but "its the system, and its the only one we've got; we have to live
with it", in the words of half a dozen bush-supporting senators in the
face of the less-than landslide (and real) victory.
Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the people
written down somewhere?
Bah, must notta been important.
=====.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: DOS, WIN98 and LINUX ?!
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:49:53 GMT
In article <94sln3$b6j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harlan Grove wrote:
>> (7. Install WinNT)
>> 8. Install Linux, Lilo into MBR
>
>You have lilo in the MBR and NT is OK with this?
Sure. I've been doing it that way for years on at least a
half-dozen systems. Never had a problem.
>This is NOT what the
>Linux+NT-Loader mini-HOWTO says. Time for a revision?
Dunno.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Of course, you
at UNDERSTAND about the PLAIDS
visi.com in the SPIN CYCLE --
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From: "Hallvor Engen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: iptables & 2.4.0
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:08:14 +0100
Only write to say that I have the same problem, this is on a Redhat
7.0 machine. The compilation went OK, but I got some errors on the
modules (don't remember what it was now). You did not get any errors?
Maybe I compile again tomorow (european) and post the errors.
Hallvor
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Keyboard seting problem
Date: 26 Jan 2001 22:52:40 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I have just installed RedHat 7.0 and got a problem.
> When I open a terminal session from X-win (KDE) I
> can't use the backspace key and the key combination ALT GR + some key
> does not work. The backspace key generates a "~" char and a beep.
> I can't set "stty erase" to backspace key because the shell substitutes
> the "~" char to my home dir.
> I have a swedidh keyboard layout and a Dell keyboard.
>
> How do one solve this kind of keyboard setup problem ??
It's a known problem with RH7 installer, run Xconfigurator to create a
new setup file.
--
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: make menuconfig
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 23:27:11 +0100
I installed the kernel in Easy Linux in SuSE Linux
and in GoLinux but >>make menuconfig<< does not work
in /usr/src/linux.GoLinux and Easy Linux said >>command
not found<< and SuSE Linux said >> no rule to make menuconfig<<
Do I have to install further
packages?
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From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ls colors
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:03:00 -0800
How do you disable ls colors? ie when I run ls to list the directory
contents, I don't want to see the results in color. Just white on black.
My laptop does not display the blue color redhat uses for files very well.
Thanks in advance
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: undoing an rpm?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:56:31 GMT
Being new to Linux I'm a little bit reluctant to just go throwing on
rpm's without a way to repair/recover.
According to a recent Security announcement I need to add an rpm. When
I downloaded it and ran rpm -Fvh name.rpm it told me I needed another
rpm first.
Can I trust this in terms of telling me what I need for what version
I'm running for what hardware I'm running, etc? Are the rpm's that
generic that they can go on any type of system for any version?
The flavor I'm running is Mandrake 5.3, but on the Mandrake page where
I went to get the rpm it doesn't even show a 5.3 version. It starts
with 6.0. Am I safe to put a 6.0 rpm on a 5.3 installation?
Can I quickly, easily remove an rpm if something doesn't work right
after the installation?
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:02:15 GMT
In article <94slbl$176$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
>In <94si7f$7nq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>]In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>] Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>]...
>]>This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
>]>door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple
PCs,
>]>how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay
up
>]>and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
>
>]Don't believe in copyright, do you? The license is pretty clear.Don't
>]blame Microsoft for enforcing their legal rights. If you don't like
it,
>]don't use it. If you oppose copyrights in general, work for changes in
>]the law.
>
>And what do you do when the lawmakers are corrupt? Much of the
>copyright policy is being dictated by large corporations with the
>money to spend on political activity.
>Copyright was originally to protect the maker for the purpose of
>encouraging the creation of products. There is not evidence that it
>serves that purpose anymore in say software. The free software movement
>shows that much software is being created where the makers explicitly
>give up their control of copying. At present much copyright law is
>simply corporations demanding monopoly powers from supine governments.
>In the face of that civil disobedience is at least as effective
>as "work for changes" is.
I don't disagree as long as those practicing civil disobedience realize
that part of its effectiveness stems from accepting the _current_ legal
(as opposed to metaphysically just) consequences of such action. As
long as principled software pirates don't complain when they're caught
and fined, OK. Most, however, know they're breaking the license terms
but think it no worse than exceeding the speed limit when driving -
meaning that most know it's wrong but rationalize that it's acceptable
behavior.
As for corrupt legislators, vote 'em out. "Oh but those nasty evil
corporations give so much money for TV ads." Tough. Go door to door if
you believe in something. Get others to do the same. Incite the
electorate. Don't bitch & moan. Tom Foley, then the Speaker of the US
House of Representatives, should have had a safe seat in congress, but
he was voted out in 1994 (not saying that was a good thing or not). It
can be done, but it does take work.
The problem may be that software licenses and copyrights matter to 99%
of the readers of this newsgroup, who make up less than 0.0001% of the
world's population (with similar percentages for the US contingent).
Your average US citizen running Quicken and Math Blaster under Windows
98 just doesn't give a damn.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:14:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Jan 2001 20:06:13 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
>Copyright was originally to protect the maker for the purpose of
>encouraging the creation of products.
This isn't quite true. Copytright and patents ( intellectual capital )
was meant to encourage a person to release his product in
exchange for control.
An example of this assume that you are a stell foundary.
You discover a way of smelting steel that is much cheap.
You get the patent, in exchange you must publish your result
and people using your process must get your permission.
If you forego releasing the information, then you risk
someone else discovering the same process and not having
to pay you anything ( in fact it may wind up that you
have to pay them ).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:15:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Jan 2001 18:56:19 GMT, Steve Mading
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The Linux kernel
>was started by a Finn who since then has moved to California,
>and today there are still a large number of US people involved,
>including "Maddog" Hall (unofficially the second in command after
>Linus, I would guess).
Don't forget the kernel was based on the Minix kernel written by
Tanenbaum. I believe he was American.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:15:47 GMT
Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Certain countries (Norway comes to mind) are very friendly towards
> choice and freedom, but not 'Europe' in general.
And what about Jon Johannsen (I hope I remembered his name correctly)
who wrote the DeCCS code?
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 21:15:10 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As for corrupt legislators, vote 'em out. "Oh but those nasty evil
> corporations give so much money for TV ads." Tough. Go door to door if
> you believe in something. Get others to do the same. Incite the
> electorate. Don't bitch & moan. Tom Foley, then the Speaker of the US
> House of Representatives, should have had a safe seat in congress, but
> he was voted out in 1994 (not saying that was a good thing or not). It
> can be done, but it does take work.
Bullshit.
As has been shown beyond the shadow of a doubt in the latest elections
in the united states, your vote DOES NOT COUNT.
Happy dreamworld,
=====.
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:10:34 GMT
In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
...
>Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
>people written down somewhere?
...
The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
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From: Milton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: linux drivers for Adaptec 19160 SCSI controller?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:22:06 -0500
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:05:38 -0800, Digital Puer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From Adaptec's website, I read that they do not have a driver for
>their low-end Ultra-160 scsi controller, the 19160. Has anyone been
>able to find a suitable driver?
Here's the latest beta drivers for 2.2.18 and 2.40
http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gibbs/linux/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 21:25:51 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
> ...
>>Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
>>people written down somewhere?
> ...
> The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
> for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
> of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
> the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
> make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
> chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
Ah, you dont have a very good understanding of what happened in florida.
You're one of those insane federalists who believes that his government
is incapable of doing any sort of wrong, arent you?
I'll bet you believe in god too, dontcha?
Thats very sweet.
> Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
Perhaps. But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
elses, any time.
=====.
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How to Install XWIN in RedHat
Date: 26 Jan 2001 23:24:30 +0200
"Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dear All,
>
> I just installed RedHat 7.0 with Server mode selected.
The X Window System isn't installed in a Server class installation.
If you want to use your system as an X workstation, you should choose
workstation install class. If the system is doing both jobs (a bad
idea...), use Custom install, and pick both types of components.
> Can anyone help me to install Xwin for further configuration?
You need to install the XFree86 packages, Xconfigurator, and possibly
Gnome or KDE.
--
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tool needed: Memory leaks
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:17:04 GMT
Pls advice a tool which would monitor a memory leaks. ps is not enough.
I need closely to watch a behavior of my applications. Any ideas?
also: have anyone heard about automation testing tool for gui apps on
linux?
Thanks,
Lilia
(Linux-cheek)
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:41:46 -0600
"Steve Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> G'day
>
> I've been following developments closely on this.
>
> It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> to be registered....or it will cease to function.
No. Several key MS programs will require Activation, which is not the same
thing as registration.
Registration gives your name, address, etc.. basically the same thing as
those warranty cards. This puts you on mailing lists, etc..
Activation doesn't require you to give any information, other than a one way
hash code (similar to PGP public keys) generated from your hardware
configuration. They won't even ask your name (if you activate manually, if
you do it over the internet it's quite seamless).
> This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
> how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
> and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
You mean they should stop breaking the law? You guys are such hypocrites.
You bitch about how MS is a criminal organization and needs to be punished,
but when the law applies to you, suddenly it's unfair?
> In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
> it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
Every year? Where do you get this. This is not subscription licensing.
> It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
Sorry, Open Source was essentially created by RMS, an American who followed
his principles for something like 10+ years before Linus got on the
bandwagon. Why do you people like to think the US never invents anything?
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