Linux-Misc Digest #938, Volume #18 Sun, 7 Feb 99 12:13:13 EST
Contents:
Re: When the next version of different distributions will be released (Todd
Ostermeier)
Re: x11amp compile issues ("Wael Sedky")
Redhat RPM update problem (Kelvin Tam)
Re: Ditto Tape Device on Linux ("Robert C. Paulsen, Jr.")
Laptop touchpad not working (kAos)
Re: IDE ZIP DRIVE mounting? (Vladymyr Iljyc Lenin)
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Dex)
Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux (NF Stevens)
Re: Misbehaving terminals (NF Stevens)
Re: why are linux x apps so slow? (Peter Scully)
Re: LILO problem with win98 (Redhat) (Allan Duncan)
Apache SSI Includes not working (Frank Adcock)
Re: Libs (Esa Tikka)
Re: Linux Friendly ISP (Robert Barnes)
Re: partition to partition copy? (Ben Russo)
Re: Getting PPP working... (Ben Russo)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Brad Corsello)
How to create a man page (Michail Konstantinidis)
Re: SiS 530 Graphics Chip, no hair ("Donald E. Stidwell")
Re: Window Maker prefs undocked! (Brad Corsello)
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From: Todd Ostermeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: When the next version of different distributions will be released
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:03:47 -0600
SuSE 6.0 (which was just released in its English version very recently) is
supposedly 2.2 compliant (all packages are the proper version to run 2.2).
I don't believe it has the 2.2.x kernels included (still has a -preX
version), but it should be as simple as downloading the latest 2.2.x and
installing that without any other major changes.
Last I heard, RedHat 6.0 will not be out for a while. I don't know about
debian, or any others.
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Richard Perry Jr wrote:
: Does anyone know the release plans/dates for various Linux distributions
: (ie. Red Hat, Debian, Slackware, S.u.S.E, etc...) based on the 2.2.x
: kernel?? I was going to just upgrade, but it looks like it will be easier
: just to get a distribution already upgraded. There are quite a bit of
: things that need to be updated other than just the kernel.
:
: Richard
:
:
:
:
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Todd Ostermeier
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From: "Wael Sedky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*>
Subject: Re: x11amp compile issues
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:47:43 -0800
You're probably right, the version I'm using 0.7
>Where? It only crashed once, but it happened 2 me only once.
>
>> works - sort of. I can see where some of the bugfixes in 0.9 should
>> be...
>>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelvin Tam)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Redhat RPM update problem
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 10:10:12 GMT
I run genhdlist to generate the new hdlist for Red Hat 5.2 but I
encountered an segmentation fault error and the probelm got
terminated. The genhdlist I used is contained in Red Hat 5.2 CDROM
"misc/src/install" directory. Does anyone know what's the cause or how
to fix it? Thanks.
regards,
Kelvin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ditto Tape Device on Linux
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 07:55:42 -0600
Charles Stroom wrote:
>
> I have a similar experience with the 2 Gb ditto floppy tape drive
Thanks for the response. It would have been nicer if you had the secret
to make it work, but at least I know I'm not the only one having
Iomega/ftape problems.
--
Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.net
If my return address contains "ZAP." please remove it. Sorry for the
inconvenience but the unsolicited email is getting out of control.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (kAos)
Subject: Laptop touchpad not working
Date: 31 Jan 1999 18:31:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi everyone,
Recently I tried to install Linux on my laptop (Dell Latitude CPi) I had
some difficulty setting up the GUI for it. First I tried SUSE 3.2, and
eventually I got it working, the mouse (touchpad) too. Then I screwed my
system up, so I decided to put RH 5.2 on it (it's more recent a
distribution, anyway). I got it working, except the mouse. With SUSE it
worked straight away, using /dev/psaux for the touchpad. Both the GUI (in
/etc/XF86Config and in terminal mode with gpm. The same isn't true with my
Red Hat installation, neither mode recognises the built in mouse. If I
stick in a serial mouse, and use /dev/ttyS0, it works, but not with the
internal one.
I tried to make several /dev/psaux devices with different minor dev.
numbers, none worked (mknod -m 660 /dev/psaux 10 0 ->1, 2, 3, ...). And I
couldn't work out wath major/minor numbers I should use.
Does anyone know how to fix this problem? It's getting really annoying.
Since I have no access to news groups during the week, I'd really
appreciate a copy to my mail box too ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
TIA,
Akos
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From: Vladymyr Iljyc Lenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: IDE ZIP DRIVE mounting?
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 16:57:35 +0100
Bill Rausch wrote:
> Actually it should be /dev/hdd4. Iomega formats them with multiple
> partitions for compatibility with various OSs, but the one you want is the
> fourth partition.
thanks for info
i don't know about this
i have been never used zip drive under linux, only under dos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dex)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:03:14 GMT
What I meant was that help gave me an overview of the available
commands. Of which there are, of course, a lot less than in linux, so
it wasn't a big job figuring out them all.
Mzzl, Dex
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Make Fun of Micro$oft at http://dex.huizen.dds.nl/msfun.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:03:17 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun) wrote:
>On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:30:36 GMT, NF Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>|Brad Hein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>|
>|>
>|>
>|>lgbp wrote:
>|>>
>|>>
>|>> Lots of people are going to tell you that there is a steep learning
>|>> curve. This needs to be put into some perspective: there is a steep
>
>
> <snipped>
>
>
>|If you mean ordering a directory listing by size and extension then
>|unless I am mistaken you can only do this in one directory at a
>|time. With find you can search recursively all subdirectories.
>|The point is that with a gui tool you are limited to what you
>|can see; on the command line you aren't. The command
>|is
>|
>| find . -size +50k -name "*.jpg" | xargs cp destination
>
>
>I don't think this does what you want it to do.
Oops.
>If it finds one file, it will copy the file 'destination' over the
>top of the jpg. If it finds 2 of more files ( or if 'destination'
>is a directory ) then the 'cp' command will exit with an error.
>'xargs' puts all the arguments it receieves at the end of the command
>line, but 'cp' expects the destination of the copy to be at the end.
>
>I think you meant to say:
>
> cp `find . -size +50k -name "*.jpg"` destination/directory
or
find . -size +50k -name "*.jpg" -exec mv {} destination \;
if you have too many files for the comman line.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Misbehaving terminals
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:03:20 GMT
Tommy Willoughby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sam Vere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi there!
>
>> One a couple of isolated occasions now, a program seems to have
>> 'messed up' the display of one of the virtual consoles.
>
>> Is there any way to restart an individual console to fix this?
>
>I think "stty sane" is what you're looking for. Check out the
>man page for the stty command.
reset is another option. Note that the terminal may not accept
the return character to you may have to type ^Jreset^J.
Norman
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From: Peter Scully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why are linux x apps so slow?
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:06:09 +0800
"Steve D. Perkins" wrote:
> > Netscape is slow by poor design, but WP8 is very zippy in my experience.
>
> Man, I've been waiting for AWHILE for someone else to criticize the sacred
> cow of the Linux world that is Netscape. The Linux port of their product
> seems like it was put together as if they didn't even care!
>
> An interesting observation, but they _did_ put it together, and it's currently
> the best available. Personally, I'm hanging out for the port of Opera to Linux,
> but this seems to be getting pushed further and further into the future - I
> suspect Jesus will return first. Maybe there's some whiz-kid hacker out there
> who can fix Netscape, or at least tidy it up a little - many years ago I ran a
> browser called i-lynx on a shell account, and maybe my fading memory is
> airbrushing it, but it seems it was more professional in appearance than
> Netscape...
> As much as the Linux community likes to criticize Microsoft for it's lack
> of competition, I wonder what it would be like if we had a little more in this
> area over here. Netscape vs. Lynx isn't much of a choice these days any more,
> but Netscape vs. a Linux port of Internet Explorer... hmm, who knows? <smile>
>
> Steve
Yeah, right, M$ will release the source of their browser to their most-hated
competitor!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allan Duncan)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: LILO problem with win98 (Redhat)
Date: 4 Feb 1999 06:36:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Phil Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have this exact same problem on a machine running a PII 350 on an
>Abit BX6 motherboard (Award BIOS), and an 8.4 Gb IBM hard disk.
>
>I have tried in vain to get Lilo to install onto either the master
>boot record or onto the boot sector of another partition.
>
>The only thing I've not tried (which I'm embarassed to admit), is BIOS
>virus protection. This sounds the most likely solution.
Me too - I was doing an install from scratch, and wanted a couple of
MSDOS partitions amongst the Linux. I could write a boot floppy, but
not the MBR. After a bit of playing around I found that if I converted
the MSDOS to Linux partitions, it installed the MBR.
The MSDOS partitions were, at the time of trying to write the MBR,
unformatted, don't know if that is relevant yet.
Allan Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] (+613) 9253 6708, Fax 9253 6776
Infrastructure - Broadband Networks
Telstra Research Labs, Box 249 Rosebank MDC
Clayton, Victoria, 3169, Australia
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From: Frank Adcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache SSI Includes not working
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:56:06 +1000
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Hi, having trouble getting SSI's to work. Maybe someone can help me.
I have the following options set up in access.conf for docs directory
and cgi-bin directory
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks ExecCGI Includes +Includes
AllowOverride Options
Options ExecCGI Includes +Includes
===========================================================================================
I have the following types and handlers in srm.conf
AddType text/html .pl
AddHandler server-parsed .pl
AddType text/html .shtml
AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
=========================================================================================
I am using the following perl script. It executes if I enter it as a
command line on the browser.
#!/usr/bin/perl
# simplecount 1.0 - extracted from Using HTML 4.0 (QUE)
# count.pl
$uri = $ENV{'REQUEST_URI'};
$countfile = "/usr/local/share/apache/cgi-bin/counter";
print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
print "Found it\n";
print $uri;
exit;
==========================================================================================
I am using the following test script.
<HTML>
<HEAD><TITLE>Counting!</TITLE></HEAD>
<BODY>
Hello Visitor!<p>
You are here : <!--#exec
cgi="/usr/local/share/apache/cgi-bin/environment.pl"-->
</BODY>
</HTML>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esa Tikka)
Subject: Re: Libs
Date: 7 Feb 1999 15:21:34 GMT
On Sun, 07 Feb 1999 02:08:20 GMT, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have just compiled/installed news libs. Which process do I have to
>restart to re-read the config file?
Run /sbin/ldconfig -v
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From: Robert Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Friendly ISP
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:03:45 +0000
Alexander Viro wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Tim Hamza wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm sorry, I hate nitpickers, but for some reason this just got my goat.
> >> The internet was around long before Compuserve was conceived. Get your
> Long before they began to provide public access to their systems,
> you mean. Originally they ran timesharing systems (TOPS-10 on KA) and
> provided access to them (for companies) in *early* 70s (70-71) - not too far
> from the moment when ARPANET appeared. Definitely waay before NSFNET.
> >> facts straight, buddy. Having used the internet long before there was a
>
> >> WWW, it is amusing to see that many people don't know the difference.
> <chuckle> Practice what you are preaching, OK? BTW, WTF does it
> have to Linux?
Hey, I can make a connection. The epic, Jan 1, 1970 which all UNIX
clocks are based on.
just my .02
-bob
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partition to partition copy?
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:11:04 -0500
steve mcadams wrote:
>
> What's the best tool to use to copy a partition?
>
> I have my Linux root partition set up as a 1G primary, and I have a 1G
> extended partition on another drive that I want to use for a backup of
> the root partition. Norton Ghost will copy the primary into the
> extended, but doesn't want to copy the extended back to the primary.
> Besides, I'd rather use a native tool. tia. -steve
> --------------------------------------------------------
> dig in - http://www.codetools.com/showcase
figure out what directories from / are on the root partition.
cd to the mirror partition, and except for /proc (don't copy that,
but make a mountpoint for it)
cp -a --one-file-system /etc /dev /root <etc> .
That should do it.
-Ben.
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting PPP working...
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 11:39:19 -0500
"Justin R. Smith" wrote:
> Flame on!
>
> I've spent the last 2 days trying to get PPP working from Linux (Redhat 5.2)
> with no success.
>
> When I connect, the modem dials the ISP and appears to connect properly
> (ifconfig reports
> that the connection is up). Everything else in the networking system (i.e.,
> route, netstat -r and
> user commands to connect to the net) just hangs until the connection goes
> down.
>
> I think that the problem involves using RedHat's "user-friendly" tools for
> setting up the network
> --- they appear to be worse than useless (i.e., they are black boxes that
> set many parameters
> without the user knowing what is going on ---- and the settings are
> dead-wrong!).
>
....(*excerpt*)....
>
> I'ts embarassing to have to use Windoze to post this news message!
> Flame off!
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
>
Read the PPP-HOWTO. /usr/doc/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO It explains how the whole
process of PPP works through Linux applications and configuration files and
such. If you don't have them on your filesystem, you can search the web, all
the howto's are available online in HTML at:
http://www.linuxnow.com/
FLAME ON... (to quote)
The User interface that you describe as a "Black-Box" is not a black box at
all. The source code for the program is available, and there is documentation
as well. The configuration files it uses are in plain text, and the options
and arguments in them are explained in the man pages for "pppd". (pppd source
code and the kernel source code is available too. As are their man pages for
"chat", "bash", and their source...)
If you go and look at your /var/log/messages file you will be able to see where
the problem occurs in the ppp connection.
That "black-box" interface was created precisely because so many newbie-users
who wanted to use the geeky-OS whined about having to read and understand open
man pages describing open source applications that they didn't pay a penny
for. They are not worse than useless, I have used them to connect to ISP's
and my office Remote Access Server from a laptop I set up with RH5.2 w/ no
modifications at all. Could it be that Drexel University's Access Server or
your ISP is using a not too common configuration???
Free Software isn't FREE, you have to work to get over the learning curve, it
is DIY.
RTFM...
-Ben.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Corsello)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Reply-To: bcorsello@usa.#NOSPAM.net
Date: 7 Feb 1999 16:10:09 GMT
On 05 Feb 1999 15:13:42 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>[...]
> Red Hat can also build
>binary rpms from source, but it is not quite the same, although this doesn't
>mean that one system is inherently better than the other.
>
Really, you can build executables from source under Red Hat just as you can
with any other distribution. The RPMs are convenient, but you aren't forced
to use them (as far as I know).
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From: Michail Konstantinidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc
Subject: How to create a man page
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:45:26 +0000
Hello all,
Could anyone tell me what I need to create a man page? Like, what tools
are necessary etc.?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Michali
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From: "Donald E. Stidwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SiS 530 Graphics Chip, no hair
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:48:46 -0500
I don't know if this will help or not, but it's worth a shot.
I have a motherboard with the SiS 6326 and lost quite a few hairs until
I RTFM'd. 1st, you can not use XF86Setup or XConfigurator to set up
this chip as it doesn't support the VGA server. You must use xf86setup,
the command line setup.
I use XFree86 3.3.3 which has the support for the 6326 included. Step
through the configuration answering the questions as appropriate and
choose the correct chip. This will run the SVGA server.
After setting everything up, I had to go into the xf86setup
configuration file and turn off acceleration. After doing this
everything works fine, but I can only get 16 bit colour at 1024x768,
which is fine. With acceleration on, I had all sorts of weird video
effects including screen corruption. At 16 bit colour with no
acceleration, everything works fine.
Not sure if this will work with the 530, but worth a shot I'd guess.
Don
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I am using a PCChips M598 mainboard, with 32mb ram and the SiS 530 graphics
> chip, and am having no luck configuring XWindows. I have read several
> messages regarding SiS and they all seem to think that the 6326 will work,
> but to no avail.
>
> When I run SuperProbe, it tells me that the graphics chip on board is a 6306
> and SIS incorporated says that is not a valid chip number. SIS has informed
> me that the 530 is the actual graphics chip.
>
> If anyone can help it sure would be greatly appreciated, I have lost enough
> hair this past three weeks.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Corsello)
Subject: Re: Window Maker prefs undocked!
Reply-To: bcorsello@usa.#NOSPAM.net
Date: 7 Feb 1999 16:10:12 GMT
On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:27:34 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I dragged the WM prefs icon off screen by accident. I need it back! How
>do I get it back?
Run the WM prefs executable from an xterm window, which will create an app
icon at the bottom of your screen. Drag it over to the bottom of your stack
of doc apps, and it should attach.
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