Linux-Misc Digest #99, Volume #25 Mon, 10 Jul 00 15:13:02 EDT
Contents:
linux frame buffering with matrox g400 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Application required - Word Processor (Grant Edwards)
Re: is there a port to windows media player? (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Application required - Word Processor (Richard Slobod)
Re: is there a port to windows media player? (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Application required - Word Processor (Andreas Schweitzer)
Re: Consequences of a new kernel (Paul Kimoto)
Re: MP3 TO WAV (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: the "i hate it when that happens" dept. (Krzys Majewski)
Re: Application required - Word Processor (Andrew Onifer)
Re: Application required - Word Processor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: @home port scanning (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: sdc : READ CAPACITY failed (Krzys Majewski)
Re: sis 6326 (Graham Vincent)
Re: Installation problems with SSH on RH 6.2 (zoot) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Application required - Word Processor (Andreas Schweitzer)
Re: ZIP100, imm.o, ppa.o, Debian (Krzys Majewski)
Compiling 2.4.0 kernel for athlon (Chad Lake)
Re: lilo on Floppy to Boot Kernel on Fixed disk (Leonard Evens)
Re: the "i hate it when that happens" dept. (Bob Hauck)
Re: Application required - Word Processor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: linux frame buffering with matrox g400
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:03:59 GMT
Hello I'm encountering a
problem with the frame buffering and I can't solve it.
I'm willing to use frame buffering with my desktop with a matrox G400
32Mb installed in it. Using the vesa 2.0 fb I've reached the maximum
resolution of 800x600 as the graphic board seems not to support natively
the vesa standard 1240x768 but only with its proprietary drivers.
With matroxfb the situation doesn't seem to change. I've followed the
instructions in the various howtos but I didn't manage to reach that
resolution and I thought that the support guaranteed for millenium,
mystique and g100,g200 is not guaranted for g400. Where am I making a
mistake?
Thanks for all
Simone :-)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Application required - Word Processor
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:11:38 GMT
In article <L9na5.296066$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rod Smith wrote:
>Without X, and with such a weak CPU, your choices are
>definitely limited. AFAIK, there are no full text-mode-only
>word processing packages for Linux.
Corel WP8 has a text-mode available, but you've got to buy the
"server" version. It's not included in the 50USD shrink-wrap
box or in the free download.
>You might want to look into using LaTeX.
Definitely.
>Alternatively, you might see about running a DOS word processor
>(such as WordPerfect 4.x or 5.x) under DOSEMU, or directly in
>DOS.
Once you get it set up and running, DOSEMU is pretty
impressive, but configuring it can be a bit intricate (there
are loads of modes/features/options) Read the instructions
from top to bottom once or twice _before_ you start messing
with things.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I feel like I am
at sharing a "CORN-DOG" with
visi.com NIKITA KHRUSCHEV...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: is there a port to windows media player?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:27:06 GMT
On Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:14:19 GMT, C.J. wrote:
>>That part of the thread I must have missed. By identical functionality,
>>do you mean "can handle streaming audio?" Certainly xmms can do it with
>>mp3, and real can do it with .ram's. But, do you mean 'can handle .asp
>>files? THAT would be news! :-)
>
>Why? The sound quality of .asp sucks seriously.
Not to mention the video quality. Pixelization something fierce on a
450MHz system, 192M RAM, VooDoo 3 2000 16M vid card, and 17" monitor.
Squares about 1" across at times. Frames that move in jerks and jumps.
Sound that follows video at 1 or 2 second intervals, sometimes worse.
ASF may generate files 1/2 the size of MPEGs, but I'm not sure the quality
is worth the savings in media costs and storage space.
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From: Richard Slobod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Application required - Word Processor
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:29:38 -0400
"Barns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I dusted off my 386 20 mhz which had been minus a screen for 5 years.
>I just want to use it for word processing. Is there a freeware word
>processing package available. My machine has Linux 1.2.1 and MSDOS 6.22.
I don't know of any native non-GUI word processors for Linux and the GUI
ones likely wouldn't work very well on a 386/20 even if they can run on
Linux 1.2.1, so your best bet would probably be an old DOS-based word
processor unless you want to give (La)TeX a try.
Microsoft Word for DOS 5.5 is available directly from Microsoft's
website:
US English version:
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloadDetails/wd55eng.htm
International English version:
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloadDetails/wd55ben.htm
It'll definitely work in DOS and probably even under DOSEMU in Linux
(assuming you can get DOSEMU working on Linux 1.2.1).
P. S.
If you're going to post with a "spamproofed" email address, please use a sig
that mentions it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: is there a port to windows media player?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:30:07 GMT
On Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:21:55 GMT, Mike Frisch wrote:
>Perhaps, but there are plenty of .asp only sources on the net.
Check http://www.shoutcast.com - you'll find literally hundreds of streaming
MP3 servers. Pick and choose according to genre, bandwidth, and bitrate.
>My local radio station only supports Windows Media Player which leaves me
>high and dry in Linux.
Suggest a streaming Shoutcast server. Plenty exist for all platforms, and
I believe there are even a few OSS servers available.
Tell 'em it'll likely save bandwidth, increase quality, and increase
listenership.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Schweitzer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Application required - Word Processor
Date: 10 Jul 2000 17:30:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <L9na5.296066$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rod Smith wrote:
>[Posted and mailed]
>
>In article <39697391$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Barns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I dusted off my 386 20 mhz which had been minus a screen for 5 years.
>> I just want to use it for word processing. Is there a freeware word
>> processing package available. My machine has Linux 1.2.1 and MSDOS 6.22.
>> (Did I hear someone laugh - I am from Africa!!)
>
>Without X, and with such a weak CPU, your choices are definitely
>limited. AFAIK, there are no full text-mode-only word processing
>packages for Linux. You might want to look into using LaTeX. You can
I ran Latex on a similar machine. I downloaded tetex version 1.something and
it actually compiled out of the box (I also had a rather old
distribution).
On the other hand, I saw this character based office suite
http://www.quad.com/
which maybe interesting for you.
I have no experience whatsoever. I just found it under
http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Office/
http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Wordprocessors/
Andreas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Consequences of a new kernel
Date: 11 Jul 2000 01:21:18 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dances With Crows wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:11:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <<8kci1h$ima$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>> So the question is, how do I quantify the impact of a new kernel and
>> identify the affected sources?
-1. Read Documentation/Changes in the kernel source. See whether you are
using anything that needs to be updated.
> 0. Install new kernel, keeping old kernel around just in case. See
> http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html for the scoop on how to do
> this.
> 1. Reboot and see if anything breaks
--
Paul Kimoto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: MP3 TO WAV
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:44:55 GMT
On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 15:24:26 +0200, Gotzon Berrojalbiz wrote:
>I've just installed a Linux distribution in 486 and i have to work with
>the shell, because X-WINDOW goes very slow.
>So the problem is that I would like to know how to convert mp3 files
>into wav, I mean, which exact comand I have to use to convert them.
I see you've already seen the slightly more arrogant and gun-jumping portion
of the Linux group participants. Unfortunate, but hey, there's one born
every second - right after the proverbial sucker. {smile}
Firstly, to answer your question (and pay attention at the end, there's a
lesson coming up :> );
I use MP3Blaster to convert MP3's to WAV's. I don't think it'll go the
other way, but hey, you've already received two suggestions that answer
THAT question. (Read before respond. Always helps. :> ).
MP3Blaster also makes a great command-line MP3 player, IMHO. You can
find it by searching for "mp3blaster" on LinuxBerg (http://www.linuxberg.com)
and either grab it from there or click on over to the software homepage,
which I can't recall at the moment.
Secondly (and here's that ever dreaded lesson :> );
When you crosspost to multiple newsgroups, ettiquete does declare that you
should set a followup-to: header line, as I've done above, to prevent
threads from being repeated (as somebody put it) in N+1 groups. It helps
keep this chaotic place we know and love called Usenet in some order. :>
Organized chaos, if you will.
Don't let certain less tasteful individuals dissuade you. Usually the
bunch in here (mostly in comp.os.linux.misc) are pretty helpful. I try
to stay away from the alt.* backbone of groups as much as possible. The
idiotchildren tend to levitate towards anything starting with alt, it
seems.
Good luck with your Linux endeavours, and I hope you'll continue to post
all your questions, comments, and concerns in here! Eventually, you'll be
one of the people answering questions just as much as you ask 'em!
Linux is a non-stop learning curve, and it's fun the whole way up. Have fun!
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From: Krzys Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: the "i hate it when that happens" dept.
Date: 10 Jul 2000 17:58:32 GMT
Maybe, but he's only right because the rebel before you said
"Ah fuck it, he's right" and the one before that and the one before that...
chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Onifer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Application required - Word Processor
Date: 10 Jul 2000 18:00:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:29:38 -0400, Richard Slobod
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Barns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I dusted off my 386 20 mhz which had been minus a screen for 5 years.
>>I just want to use it for word processing. Is there a freeware word
>>processing package available. My machine has Linux 1.2.1 and MSDOS 6.22.
>Microsoft Word for DOS 5.5 is available directly from Microsoft's
>website:
This is just an update for Word for DOS 5.0 users. I doubt it will run by
itself (unless you have Word for DOS 5.0).
jay
--
"The movie really heightens the lack of interest in the film"
--Crow T. Robot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Application required - Word Processor
Date: 10 Jul 2000 11:06:56 -0700
"Barns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi guys,
>
> I dusted off my 386 20 mhz which had been minus a screen for 5 years.
> I just want to use it for word processing. Is there a freeware word
> processing package available. My machine has Linux 1.2.1 and MSDOS 6.22.
> (Did I hear someone laugh - I am from Africa!!)
>
> (I don't have a CDRom either)
>
> Thanks - Bernard
Some people have mentioned LaTeX. That's a macro package that sits on top
of TeX and some of us actually prefer plain TeX which presumably would use
even fewer resources. There's a nice document, "A Gentle Introduction to
TeX" by Michael Doob floating around on the internet that you might try
downloading.
Without a viewer for your screen (Which would require X-Windows), you can
only print drafts out to paper to see what it looks like, so expect to use
a lot of paper at first.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: @home port scanning
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:07:21 GMT
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 02:14:23 GMT, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
>Because they want to collect more money from those who run "servers".
>Read your subscriber agreement, it prohibits running any "servers",
>without explaining what this is about.
Yeah, and you should see the setup and monthly fees for their upgraded
access known as "@Work". I think it's still got the upload cap, however.
You have to have, I believe, @Work AND pay even more still for the removal
of the cap.
Rogers@Home doesn't seem to care about servers, though. One person I know
personally has sent well over 50G upstream in the period of one month, with
a combination of personnal FTP uploads as well as his suite of servers and
streaming webcam.
They only seem to take issue when you ask for money (ie: resell) for any
part of their bandwidth.
One person I knew on @Home down in the 'States was cut off at the knees
for asking $4/month for DNS hosting.
>Former TCI used to be pretty bullish about this, but later they
>gave up due to the fact that every other guy runs a small webserver.
>Instead, they introduced 128KB/s upstream cap which solves the problem
>nicely: everyone who wants to run a website crawls to them with
>money in their teeth.
Out here it's a 384Kb/sec upload cap, which results in a max upload
bitrate of approximately 48KB/second.
(In longform; the cap is 384 Kilo Bits per Second, resulting in a
48 Kilo Byte per Second max transfer speed).
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From: Krzys Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sdc : READ CAPACITY failed
Date: 10 Jul 2000 18:08:02 GMT
Well, that wasn't the problem. I tried a low-level format of the disk under
Windows 1998 and, what do you know, it works now.
Thanks
chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Graham Vincent)
Subject: Re: sis 6326
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:06:57 GMT
Hello.
>He's got an amd k6-2 300 on an asus somethingorother motherboard with (and
>here's the kicker) an SIS 6326 agp 3d pro video card.
snip
>Does anyone who reads and writes _english_ have this card working with a
>non-pcchips motherboard, and what gyrations were required?
>I don't want to cheat him of experience. I just want to drop a few hints.
I have a SiS6326 PCI card running Xfree86 3.3.6 on an Intel VXD board.
I had to add a couple of lines to the Devices section of the XF86Config to get
it to run most of the time at 1024x768x16bit:
Option "fast_vram"
Option "ext_eng_queue"
This is using the XF86_SVGA server. I replaced the server from xfree with one
produced by Suse that claimed some further optimisation but I'm not sure it
works any better than the original. The server manages to detect the amount of
ram onboard OK.
I put this card in to try and accelerate my old P166 and wouldn't wish it on
anyone that actually wants to use the computer for anything other than trying
to waste time! The lack of support for the VGA_16 server precludes using any
of the graphical setup tools around and stops people from even trying out
Corel Linux - I'm using RedHat and love it :-)
About 50% of the time it either fails to find a socket to bind to when trying
to start X and crashes back to the command prompt or the mouse disappears.
The speed is noticeably worse than the cheap S3 Virge DX board I replaced,
particularly with video apps like Xawtv.
Under winblows95 the performance is a little faster than the S3 but it too
shows the little black squares for text for some fonts.
I think the task is a little unfair for a beginner! How about lending him a
video card that isn't so demanding until he gets it going and sort out the SiS
6326 later?
Good luck!
Graham
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installation problems with SSH on RH 6.2 (zoot)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:18:57 -0700
Nina Kucklaender wrote:
>
> Sverre Torjussen wrote:
>
> > I've got some problems with compiling certain packages like SSH
> > probably due to missing header files that includes error or status
> > codes.
> > ...
> > Any help most welcome.
>
> Hm, if you don't want to compile ssh, there are rpm's at
> http://www.zedz.net (former replay associates):
> ftp://ftp.zedz.net/pub/crypto/redhat/i386/
> or the mirror:
> ftp://ftp.nl.monster.org/pub/ftp.zedz.net/redhat/i386/
> they(ssh-1.2.27-7i.i386.rpm) worked for me with RH6.2.
> xs4all,
> nina
RPM is no garuntee you'll have a successful instllation either. I've
quite a few .rpm files failed to install.
At least, if you compile it yourself, if it fails, then, you can read
the debug message and *know* exactly what's missing, or what has gone
wrong. It might be as simple as editing the .configure or makefile a
little. As different distros have different directory structures is
quite common, you might not be really missing anything, but they're in a
different path.
And if you're really missing something, the debug message generated
during the config/make process will tells you exactly what you need, and
you can just install the missing parts, and recompile again.
But now, you'll know where everything is, if you compile everything
yourself, not to mention that you can customize it quite a bit.
Alex Lam.
e-mail: dot70 @ excite. com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Schweitzer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Application required - Word Processor
Date: 10 Jul 2000 18:29:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<snip>
>Some people have mentioned LaTeX. That's a macro package that sits on top
<snip>
>Without a viewer for your screen (Which would require X-Windows), you can
Not necessarily. There is a nice dvi viewer for svgalib (if you can get svgalib
to work) called tmview (no URL here) which I use and it works quite nicely.
Also, maybe you can even get MGR to run (which is a low end windowing sustem).
It also has a dvi viewer.
And there are even tty-dvi viewer. Never tried one, but for draft versions they
may even give you an idea.
Andreas
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From: Krzys Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ZIP100, imm.o, ppa.o, Debian
Date: 10 Jul 2000 18:37:34 GMT
OK, I can format the disk with fdisk after reformatting it (low-level)
in Windows 98. The problem now is, I can't read the disk (unless I
reformat it with fdisk). In English: If I format the disk in Windows,
I can't read it in Linux, because it gets some weird filesystem not
supported by my kernel (neither "msdos" nor "vfat"). Under cfdisk
it says, "DOS FAT16".
-chris
Krzys Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've almost got my parallel-port ZIP100 drive working,
> but I can't get linux to detect it at boot time, only if
> I manually load the appropriate module.
> I first compiled the kernel with both the ppa.o and
> imm.o modules. Eventually linux was recognizing the parallel port
> at boot time, but it would print something like this:
> Jul 7 15:06:57 buka kernel: ppa: Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.0.0)
> Jul 7 15:06:57 buka kernel: ppa: parport reports no devices.
> So on a hunch I tried a 'modprobe imm' and what do you know, it
> worked (even though my cable doesn't say the things it's supposed to say
> for the drive to be imm- rather than ppa- compatible).
> So then I recompiled the kernel, taking out the ppa driver and leaving
> only imm. The zip drive still works if I do 'modprobe imm', but
> nothing interesting happens at boot time.
> Any suggestions? I don't really understand the mechanism whereby
> devices are detected at boot time and the appropriate modules loaded.
> There are scripts in /etc/init.d which go through /etc/modules,
> but I don't have any modules listed in this file.
> -chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Lake)
Subject: Compiling 2.4.0 kernel for athlon
Date: 10 Jul 2000 18:38:50 GMT
Has anyone gotten any of the 2.4.0 kernels to compile for the athlon
with LVM support? I've tried 2.4.0test1 with various patches, as well
as the new 2.4.0test2 kernels, and I keep getting errors about the
variable "current" being undefined. If I take out LVM support, it
compiles and runs just fine.
Anyone else run into this problem?
Thanks,
-c
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo on Floppy to Boot Kernel on Fixed disk
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:26:07 -0500
Martin McCormick wrote:
>
> I want to install lilo on a bootable floppy so that the system boots
> linux if a floppy is in drive A or DOS if not.
>
> The documentation indicates that lilo simply resides in the
> same place where the DOS boot sector is found.
>
> What I either missed or didn't look in the right place to find
> is what do I do in Linux to end up with a floppy disk that has lilo in
> the boot sector?
>
> The rest should involve pointing out the linux partition on
> the hard drive where the kernel and the other file systems are. In
> other words, the floppy just makes linux boot from the hard drive.
>
> Somehow, I think I am missing something glaringly obvious in
> the RTFM department, so my apologies in advance. I thought fdisk
> was the thing to use, but it is for fixed disks.
>
> Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
> OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications Group
First remove the lilo boot loader from the MBR if you put it there.
The command
/sbin/lilo -u
should do it.
Make a new file called /etc/lilo.conf.floppy in which you change
the first line to
boot=/dev/fd0
Then with a blank floppy in your floppy drive, run
/sbin/lilo -C /etc/lilo.conf.floppy
You can then boot from that floppy with the kernel being taken
from your hard disk.
If you don't have the floppy in the floppy drive, the machine ought
to boot whatever it did before you installed lilo.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: the "i hate it when that happens" dept.
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:45:20 GMT
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:27:56 GMT, mindglow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>He said: "if it downs then too bad, but you're not putting that untried,
>untested linux configuration who no one else can administer but yourself
>into production."
>
>And you know what? Even though i hated it when it happened, he's right.
No, he isn't. You are discounting the possibility that someone else
might be able to learn to admin your server. You aren't _that_ much
smarter than everyone else...if you get my drift. You need to start
training those curious individuals who ask about Linux so that the next
time something like that comes up you can say "but boss, six other
people know how to run it".
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Application required - Word Processor
Date: 10 Jul 2000 11:58:46 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> "Barns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I dusted off my 386 20 mhz which had been minus a screen for 5 years.
> > I just want to use it for word processing. Is there a freeware word
> > processing package available. My machine has Linux 1.2.1 and MSDOS 6.22.
> > (Did I hear someone laugh - I am from Africa!!)
> >
> > (I don't have a CDRom either)
> >
> > Thanks - Bernard
>
> Some people have mentioned LaTeX. That's a macro package that sits on top
> of TeX and some of us actually prefer plain TeX which presumably would use
...<snip>...
One thing I forgot to mention is that with TeX or LaTeX,
you'll need either dvi or postscript capability, either a dvi or
postscript printer or ghostscript and a printer that ghostscript can
work with. All of this requires disk space too of course. You didn't
say how tight you were on that score.
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