Linux-Misc Digest #99, Volume #20 Fri, 7 May 99 16:13:16 EDT
Contents:
Re: How to burn a Linux CD from NT (Damien Clark)
Re: How can X be so slow? (Dr Paul Kinsler)
Re: running Linux on a 2 cpu system (Johan Kullstam)
vgetty, how to use it? ("Xin Feng")
.inputrc not read in Redhat-6.0 (Michael Keightley)
Re: How to burn a Linux CD from NT (Rod Smith)
Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network? ("Curt")
Re: Problem with GTK & Glib (Hylke van der Schaaf)
Re: [solved] Re: how do i detect if x is running? (digs)
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (Jesus Monroy, Jr.)
Re: QT Library Problems (Hylke van der Schaaf)
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact mgr with
backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend) (Coy A Hile)
Re: Win98 and Linux Dual Boot (Sasa Ostrouska)
Re: Problem with GTK & Glib (Jason Bond)
Re: running Linux on a 2 cpu system (Roger Atkinson)
Re: How to install linux on large drives (Tom Hall)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism
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Subject: Re: How to burn a Linux CD from NT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damien Clark)
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:03:45 GMT
If this is a distribution cd like redhat, you cannot simply copy the files off
the cd to your hard drive in windows, and then burn them to cd. it wont work.
This is because the redhat cd and i would assume the others too have been
recorded using the rock ridge extensions, which include unix permissions, and
long filenames. i know they include unix permissions because it has tricked me
up once before. u may think that the permissions probably dont matter because
u run the install as root anyway. but it does matter, because even if u r
root, if a file hasnt got execute permission, root still can't execute the
file. so bare this in mind.
Most CDR software allows you to take an iso9660 image directly off an existing
CD, and write it to disk. If you can find this feature in your HP software,
then all you have to do, is after dumping the physical iso image of the
linux cd, then mount your blank cdr and open that same physical image as an
external image. i know that elektroson's gear cdr software allows this. this
is the only way really to do it, and i have copied quite a few redhat
distributions this way.
i hope this helps.
regards
Damien.
In article <7gtk5i$66d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>
>
>At home, I do not have a CD-Writer, though I have both NT and Linux installed.
>
>At the office, we have a CD-Writer (HP Plus 7200i) on an NT workstation (no
>Linux boxes). no one is allowed to dial-in, company policy.
>
>Can anyone suggest how I can copy a Linux CD to a CD-R using NT with the HP
>software that came with HP Plus 7200i, which is named CD Copier?
>
>I have read that Rock Ridge is needed for long filenames, but how can I turn
>on this feature in NT or in the software? The method used by others that I
>have read in other posts assumes that you have the CD-writer in a box that
>has both NT and Linux installed, which is not the case here. Nor is there a
>way for me to copy contents from my PC at home to work as I have no Zip or
>whatever, only floppies.
>
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Paul Kinsler)
Subject: Re: How can X be so slow?
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:09:53 +0100 (BST)
Mattias Dahlberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It goes very fast, but then I also have a 400MHZ machine with 512MB of ram.
> Well, I have 450MHz and it crawls...
Well I have a 25MHz '486 with 16M ram and exactly the same slow-X
symptoms. I can see that it's not swapping, so I have put it down
to my old video card (a Genoa "GVGA"). As the card isn't specifically
supported I have to use a generic server which doesn't help.
--
==============================+==============================
Dr. Paul Kinsler
Institute of Microwaves and Photonics
University of Leeds (ph) +44-113-2332089
Leeds LS2 9JT (fax)+44-113-2332032
United Kingdom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEB: http://www.ee.leeds.ac.uk/staff/pk/P.Kinsler.html
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: running Linux on a 2 cpu system
Date: 07 May 1999 13:50:17 -0400
"Ronald D. Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, I have a 2 cpu motherboard that I have been considering building a
> system from.
> Does Linux support multiple CPU systems?
yes. i have a quad box running linux right now.
> Any documentation or links
> that would
> be of interest?
<URL:http://www.linuxhq.com/>
--
johan kullstam
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From: "Xin Feng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: vgetty, how to use it?
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:33:11 -0700
Hello,
I successfully started mgetty in /etc/inittab and my RH6.0 is receiving Fax
and data now, but can not take voice messages. What else I need to enable
the vgetty? How to start vgetty, in /etc/inittab too?
I could not find any info for that. Could you point me to the right
direction?
Thanks.
Xin Feng
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From: Michael Keightley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: .inputrc not read in Redhat-6.0
Date: 07 May 1999 18:49:54 +0100
Has anyone else noticed that ~/.inputrc isn't read by programs that
use readline, e.g. bash in Readhat-6.0?
Is this a know bug, or is it just me?
Michael
--
_________
Michael Keightley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tel: +44 131 220 4491
Systems Manager Fax: +44 131 220 4492
Quadstone Limited WWW: http://www.quadstone.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: How to burn a Linux CD from NT
Date: 7 May 1999 12:42:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <7gtk5i$66d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
jmsalvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> At home, I do not have a CD-Writer, though I have both NT and Linux installed.
>
> At the office, we have a CD-Writer (HP Plus 7200i) on an NT workstation (no
> Linux boxes). no one is allowed to dial-in, company policy.
>
> Can anyone suggest how I can copy a Linux CD to a CD-R using NT with the HP
> software that came with HP Plus 7200i, which is named CD Copier?
If you've got an existing CD that you want to copy, you just need to make
a disk copy (aka image copy, CD-to-CD copy, etc.). How you do it with the
software you've got I don't know, however. Basically, you'll be copying
the filesystem "raw," rather than copying files one at a time. This will
avoid the problem of NT not understanding Rock Ridge, since NT (or, more
precisely, the CD-R software) just needs to understand bits and the CD-R
drive.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
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Reply-To: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network?
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 09:25:19 -0500
I just downloaded VNC. It worked the first time for the server running on
95 and the viewer running on RH5.2. However, I seem to always get a blank
greenish window going the other way, 95 viewer, RH52. server. Same with
viewer on RH5.2 and server on RH5.2. I'm sure I'm missing something dumb.
Ursa_M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
>
> > Timothy Litwiller wrote:
> >
> > > yes, please send an URL
> > >
> > > Eugene VonNiederhausern wrote:
> > >
> > > > Cyrus Mehta wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am creating a dual Windows/Linux environment using Samba for
file serving
> > > > > on a standard Ethernet network. I was wondering what kind of X
server software
> > > > > for the Windows side I could use to run some X windows apps off of
the LInux Box.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reliability is the most important factor, windows will crash often
enough without
> > > > > the help of the X server.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > CKM
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday, I found the best X server/viewer for windows (and linux)
that I have
> > > > seen yet and it is free (GNU Public License). It is called VNC from
Olivetti and
> > > > Oracle research laboratory. You can connect from linux->windows,
windows->linux,
> > > > linux->linux, windows->windows. It is a lot better than any of the
other products
> > > > I have seen ot this kind. I don't have the URL (it is at work) you
can email me or
> > > > post a reply and I will get it and reply.
> >
> > The URL is http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ . Let me know what you
think...
>
> Ursa_M --> I am also using the VNC server and find it to be very reliable
and generally
> excellent. The install was easy. I tend to launch and kill the server
from a hyperterminal
> window via telnet and then sign onto the VNC X windows. VNC is
persistent. Unless you kill
> the session, the next time you login you will be EXACTLY where you were
when you closed the
> window. Server sessions can be conveniently killed from a command line,
telnet or direct,
> to keep that from being a problem. On the other hand, if you had multiple
devices going and
> wanted to keep an X windows session up while you moved from device to
device then this is a
> "feature" you would like. Personally, I haven't had a use for that yet so
just kill the
> session before I shut down my Win98 machine. VNC has never caused a
hiccup on either the
> Win98 or Linux side and is a very thin client on the Win98 side.
>
> Take care,
>
> Ursa_M
>
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From: Hylke van der Schaaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with GTK & Glib
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:37:37 -0700
Jason Bond wrote:
> Gtk requires Glib so after I install Glib (which looks like it
> installs without any problems) which installs itself into
> /usr/local/lib/glib...ok so when I go to try and install gtk and I run
> ./configure, it says that it can't find glib...more precisely:
> checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.1... no
After installing glib1.2.x, did you run ldconfig as root?
if not -> do so...
Cya,
Hylke
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (digs)
Subject: Re: [solved] Re: how do i detect if x is running?
Date: 3 May 1999 15:22:00 GMT
Reply-To: nts-online.net
On 03 May 1999 10:19:38 -0400, David Z. Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hmm-
what if $display is "exported" via profile or wherever
thats a failure for sure right?
please offer an example I would like to get it right.
>Really, the best way to do this sort of test is to check $DISPLAY, and
>don't set the environment variable if there isn't an X server you can
>readily talk to. Both examples 1 and 2 test whether DISPLAY is set
>correctly.
>
>--
>David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
--
later on,
digs
:wq
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jesus Monroy, Jr.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:46:48 GMT
On 07 May 1999 15:51:28 +0200, "Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[ Jesus Monroy,
>
>| Is Unix a single user operating system?
>
>no, it's not.
>
>my opinion is that its support for multiple users is a dirty hack.
>
Okay, I agree. I'm on your side.
Please read my response.
--
If you have to read the docs, it's broken.
I hate making mistakes.
You can check my spelling at: http://work.ucsd.edu:5141/cgi-bin/http_webster
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From: Hylke van der Schaaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: QT Library Problems
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:40:22 -0700
Jason Bond wrote:
> Sorry to inundate this newsgroup with my problems
> but I am having some trouble installing programs
> that depend on the QT libraries. Specifically, I have QT-1.42 installed
> on my Redhat 5.2 system:
>
> (root@blah: ~/kuickshow-0.6.3) rpm -q -a | grep qt
> qt-1.42-3rh51
>
> and when I try and install a program that depends on the qt libraries, I
> get error messages of the form:
>
> checking for QT... configure: error: QT-1.3 (headers and libraries) not
> found. Please check your installation!
Either that program specificly wants QT version 1.3 (you've got 1.42)
OR the qt-1.42-3rh51 package does not contain the headers of the
library, in wich case you have to look for a 'devel' package of qt and
install that first.
Cya,
Hylke
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact
mgr with backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend)
Date: 7 May 1999 10:42:16 -0400
In article <7guojg$sts$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gordon Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Larry Blanchard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: I seem to remember something about
>: that type of argument from a long-ago logic class :-). What are the
>: words for "it does not follow" in Latin?
>
wouldn't that be non sequitur
coy
--
Coy Hile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"
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From: Sasa Ostrouska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win98 and Linux Dual Boot
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 17:28:48 +0200
Robear wrote:
> Please bare with me on this. It is not covered in any FAQ or newsgroup that
> I have come across.
>
> I have two IDE HD. First hard disk has Win98 32 Bit partition installed on
> it. The second HD has Linux.
>
> At present, I use a floppy to boot Linux, and automatically load Windows 98
> when I want to use it.
>
> What I would like to do, is have a menu on the first HD to be able to choose
> Win98 or Linux...
>
> Ah hah I here you say, use LOADLIN.
>
No Use LILO !
Install LILO and configure it should be the best thing for you.
Bye Sasa
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From: Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with GTK & Glib
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 07:48:36 -0700
Hylke van der Schaaf wrote:
> Jason Bond wrote:
> > Gtk requires Glib so after I install Glib (which looks like it
> > installs without any problems) which installs itself into
> > /usr/local/lib/glib...ok so when I go to try and install gtk and I run
> > ./configure, it says that it can't find glib...more precisely:
> > checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.1... no
>
> After installing glib1.2.x, did you run ldconfig as root?
> if not -> do so...
>
> Cya,
> Hylke
Hmmm...ok...my system doesn't seem to be able to find ldconfig...this is
what I get:
(root@blah: ~/glib-1.2.1) ldconfig
bash: ldconfig: command not found
Thanks again,
Jason
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From: Roger Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: running Linux on a 2 cpu system
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 19:38:52 +0000
"Ronald D. Haynes" wrote:
>
> Hi, I have a 2 cpu motherboard that I have been considering building a
> system from.
> Does Linux support multiple CPU systems? Any documentation or links
> that would
> be of interest?
>
> Thanks,
> R Haynes
Have a look at the SMP.FAQ. I am writing this on a Dual Xeon PII 400
which
is running an SMP kernel. Here is the output of dmesg on this machine.
Memory: sized by int13 0e801h
Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.1
Virtual Wire compatibility mode.
OEM ID: INTEL Product ID: 440GX APIC at: 0xFEE00000
Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
Processor #1 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC00000.
Processors: 2
BTW The 2.1.XX kernels have better support for SMP but I am running OK
on a
2.0.36-3 Kernel.
HTH, Roger Atkinson Cubic Sys Admin
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From: Tom Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install linux on large drives
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:59:28 +0100
Michael Wolf wrote:
> I just bought a PC with a 9G drive and the first thing I tried to do was
> install Linux (isn't that what everyone does?).
>
> I defragged the C: drive, got a newer version of fips so it could handle
> FAT32 drives, then partitioned the drive into 2, the first with 6G and
> then next with 3G (the 3G is where I want Linux to go to).
>
> I deleted the 2nd partition with DOS fdisk.
>
> I rebooted with my RedHat CD to install Linux 2.0.32.
>
> I went into the partition editor, added one primary partition, as number
> 2, for swap (64M) and one primary partition, as number 3, for Linux
> (the remainder of the space.
>
> Here is the problem. The fdisk with my RedHat distribution (RedHat
> Linux Unleashed by SAMS verion 1.0) said the first available cylinder
> was 964 and the highest was 1024.
>
> After giving 64M to swap, this left only 390M.
>
> I am assuming the fdisk with my distribution just can't handle drives
> with more than 1024 cylinders.
>
> Is there a version of Linux fdisk that doesn't have this problem and if
> so, how can I install from the CD and use the newer version of fdisk?
I believe you can get round this by chhosing expert mode in fdisk (x) and
manually entering the correct number of cylinders for the drive.
--
tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:57:49 -0700
On Fri, 07 May 1999 10:42:27 -0700, Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Shaun Rowland
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Is it yet a replacement
>> for windows on the desktop? Perhaps not, but it is moving in that
>> direction in some respects rather people want it to or not.
>
>I doubt you'd find anybody who would object to finding a good Free
>replacement for Windows.
>
>The whole point I've been trying to make (not very well I suppose) is
>that Free software can't win with slogans, ideology, and simply
>attacking proprietary software. It must convert people by being able
>to do what they want it to do, when they want it done.
>
>Many people would rather attack Microsoft and blame them for the state
>of the world than to actually make a better propsition to the users in
>terms to _total_ value. (Cost, availability, features, documentation,
>quality, performance, etc)
The only thing that Free Software really lags in at this
point is that same thing that has plauged any platform !DOS.
>
>The sad thing is that *today*, the *average* consumer is _vastly_
>better served by Microsoft than by any Free software. Of course it
>would be wonderful if this changed over time for the better.
So? It's a false dichotomy. There is more to software
than merely Linux vs. Winodws.
[deletia]
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