Linux-Misc Digest #795, Volume #19 Fri, 9 Apr 99 22:13:08 EDT
Contents:
reconfigure RedHat Linux after first install? (Brian V. Smith)
Re: Where's the source code? (Christopher B. Browne)
linux email clients (plendon)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (Jon-o Addleman)
Re: nested ` (Peter Granroth)
Re: linux email clients (Coy A Hile)
Re: Photoshop vs. Gimp (Flyboy105)
How do I kill a TCP connection? (David Steuber)
Re: make (gcc) (Seth Van Oort)
Re: ICQ auf Linux (swun)
Simple DSP experiments under Linux (Markus Wandel)
/dev/printer, lpd, connect: No such file or directory, OH MY!
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Does Linux run the processor HLT command? (John Thompson)
Re: emacs launches internet connection (John Thompson)
Write About Linux For the Masses! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: fetchmail/exim/procmail (giangy)
patching for kosovo? (Rik van Riel)
Re: Recreations of IBM Mainframe like env on linux ?? (Cameron McElhinny)
Re: Running as root? (Ron White)
elks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Subject: reconfigure RedHat Linux after first install?
Date: 9 Apr 1999 20:19:37 GMT
I have installed RedHat 5.2 without an ethernet card because I was using
a modem for network access at the time.
Now that I have an ethernet card (3c509) I would like to enable it in
the kernel.
I thought I could just boot from the CD and reconfigure it from there, but
the update option (as opposed to install) only updates applications and utilities,
not the kernel.
Do I have to do a full install again to tell it about my ethernet card
or is there another option?
I have looked through all the HOWTO and FAQ files and Dejanews, but haven't found
anything this specific about RedHat.
Thanks for any help.
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Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.so.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Where's the source code?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 19:45:03 GMT
On Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:54:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>I need help from the Linux community to find a resource that I am sure exists.
>
>I have been a a FreeBSD user for a couple years now, but at work I now have to
>setup and live in a Linux world. The problem is how do I get real access to
>sources for Linux?
... lots elided ...
>How about an equilivant to /usr/ports? Is there a service that provides
>wrappers to all the great open source software so everything builds and
>installs consistantly. Something where everything builds from source and I
>can fix problems?
>
>Is there another Linux distribution that works the way I want?
There is no *precise* equivalence, but almost certainly the nearest
thing to what you are looking for is the Debian distribution.
Many of the distributions are based on the RPM packaging tool (due to
Red Hat Software), which provides dependancy information, and has a
compilation scheme whereby pristine sources are combined with
customized patches.
Things have not gone "full circle" in this process as to provide tools
to allow one to automatically go off and query servers to get the
latest editions of system components.
There is a web site, <http://rpmfind.net>, which provides an
integrated list of a whole *lot* of places where RPM files are bing
produced; there are not yet in general use feedback mechanisms to
automate upgrades, although I think the author of "rpmfind" has a tool
that can indeed do that.
The Debian distribution, in contrast, has a tool called 'dselect' that
quite fully integrates this process, to the point to which you can do
a mass upgrade of the system from a major version to another generally
with no need to shut anything down other than individual services as
they get upgraded.
>Please I really don't want to have a FreeBSD vs Linux flame war. I
>understand the very difference worlds they live in. FreeBSD is a run by a
>central group of dictators and Linux is wild and free. But surely the OS
>that is all about Open Source should make sources easier to get?
>
>I realize this post is flame bait, but hopefully so reasonable people will
>respond.
[FleaBSD sux; blah, blah, blah...]
Even in those less-than-friendly RPM files, you should be able to
check packages and determine the location of:
a) Source RPM (e.g. - package containing sources + patches), and
b) Source URL for "pristine" source code.
Supposing you have one or five RPMs that you want to customize, you
can find the .src.rpm file, often at ftp.redhat.com, and then
customize in a fully "RPM-managed" way by building your own RPM
package.
It's not the same thing as BSD Ports, but *most* of the same sorts of
goals are accomplishable...
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: plendon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux email clients
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:06:48 -0400
What are some good email clients available for Linux & Gnome?
Thank you in advance,
Pat Lendon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon-o Addleman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:22:59 GMT
Once upon a Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:58:27 +0200, "Jan Johansson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Uhm, no. The MS Net client sits ontop of the networking components, the
>mouse does NOT sit above the sound components.
>
>>That's my point, though I didn't phrase it properly... What does that
>>network program have to do with dialup passwords? Nothing!
>>
>>An analogy for this situation would be that you have to install a
>>mouse driver in order to use your sound card! The two have nothing in
>>common...
Hmm.. Ok. Then it's like having to install a sound editing program in
order to get sound in your games.. In any case, you do NOT need ms
networking in order to save a password for dialup!
--
Jon-o Addleman
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From: Peter Granroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: nested `
Date: 10 Apr 1999 00:33:56 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Siemel Naran) writes:
> How to use nested ` operator.
>
> For example,
> basename pwd
> outputs "pwd".
>
> But
> basename `pwd`
> is the same as "basename /home/sbnaran/folder" (or something like this),
> and the output is "folder".
>
> Now in my Makefile I want to assign the result of `basename `pwd`` to
> a variable. The following, which is close to what I want, works:
try nesting with $() instead of ``, i.e:
PWD=$(basename $(pwd))
HTH
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Subject: Re: linux email clients
Date: 9 Apr 1999 19:32:13 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
plendon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What are some good email clients available for Linux & Gnome?
>
>Thank you in advance,
>
>Pat Lendon
>
How about pine, elem, or maybe even just <shudder> mail. What do you need
the Gnome libraries for?
Coy
--
Coy Hile
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"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flyboy105)
Subject: Re: Photoshop vs. Gimp
Date: 9 Apr 1999 23:52:13 GMT
GIMP is really nice, and free, but it has limited filters. Of course, you can
get numerous plug-ins for GIMP if you really wanted to bother with that.
====================================================
Kris Knigga
a.k.a The Great JoeBob
http://members.aol.com/Flyboy105
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I kill a TCP connection?
Date: 08 Apr 1999 13:36:29 -0500
netstat lists connections like this:
david@solo:~ > netstat
Active Internet connections (w/o servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
tcp 0 0 10.7.7.10:1097 interloper:nntp ESTABLISHED
tcp 0 0 10.7.7.10:1023 interloper:login ESTABLISHED
Active UNIX domain sockets (w/o servers)
Proto RefCnt Flags Type State I-Node Path
unix 2 [ ] STREAM 186829 /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 186828
unix 1 [ ] STREAM 186827 /tmp/kfm_500_240_0.0
unix 2 [ ] STREAM 185985 /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 185983
<etc>
Sometimes, I notice that Netscape Navigator 4.5 leaves tcp conections
open to hosts I am no longer interested in. They do not close when I
kill Navigator. The result is that my dial on demand ISDN router will
keep dialing my ISP and costing me money. I would like to be able to
kill these rouge tcp connections without rebooting. Logging out does
not do the job. I don't want to log out either. I would like to just
close the connection like I was killing a process. So, can I and how
do I?
TIA
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
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If you don't, I won't see it.
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worry.
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: make (gcc)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:38:47 +0000
You just don't have make installed or it's not in your path. You might
try 'locate make' to see if it's in any of the executable directories.
Seth
Matthew Slowe wrote:
>
> I am fairly new to Linux, and am gradually getting used to the OS,
> which, I must say, is much better that Dos+Win.
>
> I have tried downloading various progs: which contain a script called
> Makefile. The readme says to type 'make', but this does nothing (cmd not
> found). I have tried to exec Makefile (and chmod 777...). Also, gcc in
> installed.
>
> I am running Redhat 5.1, and would like to know how to compiles these
> progs!
>
> TIA
>
> --
> Matthew Slowe
> To Reply by email, click on the mailto link below...
>
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> 'Is that your hat, or did a weasel climb onto your head and die?'
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From: swun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ICQ auf Linux
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 10:04:09 +0000
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Mike wrote:
> Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> > It was the Tue, 30 Mar 1999 13:58:44 GMT...
> > ..and Markus Goetz aka guruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephan Schoenfeldt) !
> > > To <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (35 lines) you said :
> > >
> > > FYI : Mirabilis has announced an offical ICQ for X
> >
> > Can you say "bandwagon"?
> >
> > :)
> >
> > mawa
> > --
> > When you look at yourself in an aberrational mirror, you see your real
> > self, looking back at the twisted you.
> > -- Dr. (?) Bob Miller, "The Aberrational View of the Universe",
> > Twisted Science, Heat, National Public Radio
>
> Do you mean the java version?
> Because I have been to Mirablis and see no specific X version.
> Thanx,
He may be meant the version of QTKicq.
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Mike wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Matthias Warkus wrote:
<p>> It was the Tue, 30 Mar 1999 13:58:44 GMT...
<br>> ..and Markus Goetz aka guruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<br>> > Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephan Schoenfeldt)
!
<br>> > To <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (35 lines) you said :
<br>> >
<br>> > FYI : Mirabilis has announced an offical ICQ for X
<br>>
<br>> Can you say "bandwagon"?
<br>>
<br>> :)
<br>>
<br>> mawa
<br>> --
<br>> When you look at yourself in an aberrational mirror, you see your
real
<br>> self, looking back at the twisted you.
<br>> -- Dr. (?) Bob Miller,
"The Aberrational View of the Universe",
<br>> Twisted
Science, Heat, National Public Radio
<p>Do you mean the java version?
<br>Because I have been to Mirablis and see no specific X version.
<br>Thanx,</blockquote>
He may be meant the version of QTKicq.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Wandel)
Subject: Simple DSP experiments under Linux
Date: 9 Apr 1999 23:05:41 GMT
If you have a reasonably fast (Celeron) Linux machine and a sound card
with a working driver, fun experiments are possible with some trivially
small C programs.
I've posted a whole bunch of them, with a writeup, on my web pagelet at
http://www.playground.net/~mwandel
It is assumed that you know how to type "make" and at least read some simple
C programs. Other than that this audio stuff is easy.
If anyone can think of some more DSP programlets to add to the collection
I'd like to have copies.
Markus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: /dev/printer, lpd, connect: No such file or directory, OH MY!
Date: 09 Apr 1999 19:23:44 -0500
Setup: Dell Optiplex GXa running RedHat 5.2
I'm running into a problem that has some coverage on Deja News (people
asking), but no FAQ entries or resolutions.
When I try to print, I get the following:
[jondoe]# echo Test | lpr -P network_lw
lpr: connect: No such file or directory
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
[jondoe]#
lpd is running
I look in /dev to see if /dev/printer is there, no dice.
By now I've figured out that /dev/printer is a named socket created by
lpd. Restarting lpd doesn't create /dev/printer, however.
So I toddle over to a working RedHat 5.2 machine, shut down lpd,
/dev/printer disappears. Restart lpd, /dev/printer appears. Magic!
I go back to the sick machine, stop lpd, /dev/printer isn't there.
Restart lpd, /dev/printer still isn't there.
Far as I can tell my /etc/printcap file is fine, the print server is
in its own /etc/hosts.lpd, ifconfig shows loopback as existing, and
netstat -r shows the lo interface as a route to 127.0.0.0.
Ideas?
Tom
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux run the processor HLT command?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 20:58:19 -0600
John Fee wrote:
> When I use Linux for the same sort of workload as Win98+CPUIdle my CPU runs
> several degrees hotter. I was lead to believe that UNIX based systems ran
> the HLT command intrinsically. Anyone know anything about this?
It looks that way here. From my boot messages:
[clip]
Mar 28 10:25:32 starfleet kernel: CPU: Intel Pentium II
(Deschutes) stepping 02
Mar 28 10:25:32 starfleet kernel: Checking 386/387
coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Mar 28 10:25:32 starfleet kernel: Checking 'hlt'
instruction... OK.
[clip]
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-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: emacs launches internet connection
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 21:02:45 -0600
Eric Bohn wrote:
> Why is it that emacs launches my internet connection whenever I start it?
> It's just a text editor right?
Emacs *just* a text editor?
Oh-oh. Here it comes...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Subject: Write About Linux For the Masses!
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:48:43 GMT
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From: giangy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: fetchmail/exim/procmail
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:47:43 +0200
poll "pop1.sympatico.ca"
protocol pop3
username "MY_USERNAME"
password "MY_PASSWORD"
mda "/usr/bin/procmail -d %s"
My question are:(1) What does the fifth line mean?
(2) Where do I specify in which local directory to place new mail?
I think this must all be in one line
the fifth line means the command you have to use to deliver mail...
by default fetchmail uses smtp to deliver mail to your local machine...
so it becames your system email
with the last line you can change the deliverer
mda=mail deliver agent
if you want it into a file...
do something like
"cat %s >> filename"
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From: Rik van Riel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: patching for kosovo?
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:35:48 +0200
Upon seeing all the help efforts going on for the Kosovars
and all the requests for kernel and application patches (and
me being somewhat hazy on a friday evening) I put one and one
together and came up with a (possibly stupid) plan:
patching for kosovo
The idea is that Linux users do a bid for their favorite
(not yet implemented) patch and send the money to their
favorite aid agency. In exchange, the Linux hackers start
cranking out the code for most-wanted features.
I'm not sure what to think of this idea, but maybe
any of you have something constructive to say...
(I know I don't)
cheers,
Rik -- Open Source: you deserve to be in control of your data.
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From: Cameron McElhinny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recreations of IBM Mainframe like env on linux ??
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:14:20 +0000
At work, we use a product called Tritus on AIX. I don't know anything
alse about it, and I can't imagine wanting to use it, but some people
seem to like it.
Learn vi.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering If there are any users of Linux who work on mainframes for a
> living. The reason being that I am a mainframe applications developer and I
> use Linux at home for almost everything and recently I used a program called
> SPFPro at office and I was wondering If there is anything like that in the
> Linux world which mimics the ISPF/PDF environment.
>
> By the way could anybody tell me how I could check if I have the soundblaster
> driver in my system. I had a working sound card on the Linux system and then
> I added a tape drive ever since then my sound card refuses to work while it
> works on Winnt on the same hardware. Would appreciate it if anybody could
> point me in the right direction. I'm using the same irq @ amd dma channel as
> the winnt system.
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> Alex...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron White)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Running as root?
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:52:58 GMT
On 06 Apr 1999 16:19:16 -0500, David Steuber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Stop running as root! That is what su is for! It is trivial to set
>up a user account for your self (and another for testing untrusted
>software).
>
>--
>David Steuber
>http://www.david-steuber.com
Some of us have no choice. I've been trying to run ping and netscape
(as two examples -- don't know if ther are others) as user and all I
can do is run them as root. I've changed permissions and several
other things people have suggested and it looks like I'll run as root
if I want to use those programs.
Ron White
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: elks
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:24:51 GMT
anyone know where to find a new version of elks ?
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