Linux-Misc Digest #795, Volume #25               Mon, 18 Sep 00 00:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: I Need A Shell Script, Or A C Program.... (Glitch)
  Re: How to set break points when using gdb? (David Rysdam)
  Re: Looking for recomendation to replace Netscape mail/news reader (Garry Knight)
  Re: Basic networking question. ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: The Truth About the Kursk Disaster ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: What's the largest machine in the world that uses Linux ? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: 2 webservers behind firewall? HOW (Bernd Eckenfels)
  Modem connection interferes with X11 ("Brett W. Denner")
  Red Hat or Gnome problem... (Sergio Stateri Jr)
  Re: Disk utilities for Linux (E J)
  Re: circuit layout program (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: circuit layout program (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: ext2 file size limit? (Alexander Viro)
  inetd problem on Raq 3 server ("Andrew Pattison")
  Re: I Need A Shell Script, Or A C Program.... (Grant Edwards)
  Error with man command... (Dextrose)
  Re: Newer versions of CDRECORD no longer work... (Grant Edwards)
  Re: The Truth About the Kursk Disaster ("Andrew P. Billyard")
  Re: Disk utilities for Linux (Dances With Crows)
  Re: kde config / startup help needed. (Dances With Crows)
  Re: circuit layout program (Jerry L Kreps)
  monitor off (Dan Sun)

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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:17:14 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I Need A Shell Script, Or A C Program....



Michael Lauzon wrote:
> 
> I need a shell script to run as root, it will search all the users who have MP3s, 
>list there usernames,
> list the MP3s, and delete them if I so desire.  So, what I am looking for is as 
>follows.  A
> program that searches, lists each user with a number before their username, which 
>then the program will
> let me choose which user by number (or name), list all the MP3s that the user has 
>and asks me if I want
> to delete them all at once, or one by one.  This could also be a C program.  I need 
>this by Monday at the
> earliest, and a week Monday at the latest.
> --

sounds like u want someone to take *their* time to make something for
*you* in order for you to do your job, is that right?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rysdam)
Subject: Re: How to set break points when using gdb?
Date: 18 Sep 2000 00:06:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Make sure you compiled with "-g".

And hover Spoke:
>Hi all,
>
>    I am debugging using 'gdb'. I have one file 'main.c' and a
>file 'func.c', with their relation indicated in the makefile. I want to
>set a break point in the file 'func.c'. Can anyone tell me how to do
>it?
>
>    The following is what I have tried but failed:
>----------------------
>    gdb main
>    break func.c:52
>
>    Then I was told that "No source file named func.c"
>
>----------------------
>
>    Many thanks.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.


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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for recomendation to replace Netscape mail/news reader
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 01:08:46 +0100

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Les Hazelton wrote:
>I want GUI based mail
>& news readers that support html and Netscape does that. 

I'm not sure if Mahogany does HTML, but it's worth checking out the website.
I've just tried version 0.60-1 (the latest one on the website) and it doesn't
feel quite ready for everyday use, but who knows, maybe you're a pioneer...

http://www.wxwindows.org/Mahogany/

--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Basic networking question.
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 20:24:23 -0500

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Rod Smith quoth:

RS> [Posted and mailed]
RS> 
RS> In article <8q1jle$h4e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
RS>     [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RS> > Hello,
RS> > 
RS> > Basic networking Q: what would be the simplest way to network two Linux
RS> > computers?  That is, among other things, be able to access each others'
RS> > files.  I know this is very general, but I really have no idea where to
RS> > start; I want the simplest way.  Also, what sort of cable would I use
RS> > for this?  I'm speaking of regular Intel-based PCs here.
RS> 
RS> You'll need two network cards. Assuming you use 100Mbps Ethernet, you'll
RS> need either a crossover cable or a hub and two regular cables. You'll
RS> then need to configure assorted networking features on both systems.
RS> Check the networking HOWTO documents that came with your system, or buy
RS> an introductory book on Linux networking for details. (I've got some
RS> book suggestions at http://www.rodsbooks.com/books/books-network.html.)

Excellent advice, but just to add one thing, go with the hub.
Inititally the crossover cable will do, but the time may come
where you want to add a node to your network, and then you will
need the hub.  You will thank yourself for getting the hub later.
(unless you ~NEVER~ plan on getting another machine)

anm
-- 
BEGIN { $\ = $/; $$_ = $_ for qw~ just another perl hacker ~ }
my $J = sub { return \$just }; my $A = sub { return \$another };
my $P = sub { return \$perl }; my $H = sub { return \$hacker  };
print map ucfirst() . " " => ${&$J()}, ${&$A()}, ${&$P()}, ${&$H()};


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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Truth About the Kursk Disaster
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 20:35:01 -0500

[ Newsgroups trimmed and follow-ups set. ]

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, David .. quoth:

D.> John Smith wrote:
D.> > 
D.> > I'm glad to see that you find the horrible death of 118 people so amusing.
D.> 
D.> Actually I find the tragedy of the Kursk to be an extreme horror of the
D.> consequences of war. Though actual war was not the direct cause of it's
D.> sinking it was a vessel of war none the less.

  This thread is still ~WILDLY~ off-topic for this newsgroup.
Not to mention that it is being cross-posted to about 4 others.

anm
-- 
BEGIN { $\ = $/; $$_ = $_ for qw~ just another perl hacker ~ }
my $J = sub { return \$just }; my $A = sub { return \$another };
my $P = sub { return \$perl }; my $H = sub { return \$hacker  };
print map ucfirst() . " " => ${&$J()}, ${&$A()}, ${&$P()}, ${&$H()};


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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the largest machine in the world that uses Linux ?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 20:39:11 -0500

[ another post turned right-side up ]

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Jerry L Kreps quoth:

JLK> On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Grant Edwards wrote:
JLK> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hal Burgiss wrote:
JLK> >>On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 11:34:39 +0800, Yeung Ming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
JLK> >>>do anyone know the ans or where i can find it by myself?
JLK> >>
JLK> >>Meaning computer? Single computer, or cluster? Check IBM's website. They
JLK> >>ran some ridiculous number of simulataneous Linux sessions on one 'box'.
JLK> >
JLK> >IIRC, it was something like 4000 simlutaneous Linux systems running on one
JLK> >of their big machines (a 390?).  Pretty cool.
JLK> 
JLK> On the S/390, and it was 40,000+ virtual Linux systems.

And if you include clustering, http://www.google.com was powered
by 4,000 linux boxes, with plans to up that number to 6,000 (if
that has not already been done).

anm
-- 
BEGIN { $\ = $/; $$_ = $_ for qw~ just another perl hacker ~ }
my $J = sub { return \$just }; my $A = sub { return \$another };
my $P = sub { return \$perl }; my $H = sub { return \$hacker  };
print map ucfirst() . " " => ${&$J()}, ${&$A()}, ${&$P()}, ${&$H()};


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From: Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 2 webservers behind firewall? HOW
Date: 18 Sep 2000 01:59:20 GMT

In comp.os.linux.networking D. Abuan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have two webservers behind a Redhat 6.2 PC running IP Masquerading.  I
> know how to port forward one webserver
> if there is a request to my external PC's IP address at port 80.  But I want
> to set up another one....running NT (for
> my room mate who wants to run IIS) how can I set this up????


Asuming you dont want to have two different ports (which is easy and will
work as long as you can tell the users what URL to use) you have to assign
your firewall two oficial ip addresses or use a reverse proxy with url
rewriting or host-name-based virtual hosts. Apache can do this for example.
Then you can assign two DNS names to your one official address, or you can
have two different directories point to two different servers:


www.aaa.com = www.bbb.com = 1.2.3.4

http://www.aaa.com/ -> http://10.0.0.1
http://www.bbb.com/ -> http://10.0.0.2

or

http://www.aaa.com/s1/* -> http://10.0.0.1/*
http://www.aaa.com/s2/* -> http://10.0.0.2/*



this is done in apache with mod_proxy like this:
--
NameVirtualHost 1.2.3.4

<VirtualHost www.aaa.com:80>
ServerName www.aaa.com
ProxyPass / http://10.0.0.1/
</VirtualHost>

<VirtualHost www.bbb.com:80>
ServerName www.bbb.com
ProxyPass / http://10.0.0.2/
</VirtualHost>
--

Greetings
Bernd

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From: "Brett W. Denner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem connection interferes with X11
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 02:12:11 GMT

I recently purchased the SuSE version (6.4) of Linux, and discovered a
problem that arises only when I use my modem to connect to the Internet.

After I dial my ISP with the modem (using kppp in the KDE environment, I
believe) I cannot start up most (if not all) programs that use Xlib. 
Here's the sample output from
'xsky' started from the command line:

brett@linux:~ > xsky
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
Error: Can't open display: :0  

This behavior only starts once the modem is finished connecting.  After
I disconnect the modem, I can use xsky and other graphical programs as
before.

Can anybody tell me why this occurs, and how to fix it?

Thanks,

Brett Denner

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From: Sergio Stateri Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Red Hat or Gnome problem...
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 02:11:00 GMT

  Hi,

I'm having a terrible problem in my Linux Red Hat 6.2 (I had installed
it yestarday). Sometimes, when I'm using Netscape 4.72, Linux come back
to the login window (I'm using GNome gui) and I lost all that I'm doing,
but the PPP connection isn't broken. Does anybody know what's happenning
?

   Thanks in advance,

--
Sergio Stateri Jr
Sao Paulo (SP) Brazil
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disk utilities for Linux
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:11:22 -0700

Did you try using fsck?  Do a man on fsck to fix your hard disk partition.
$ man fsck

Go into single user mode and run fsck on the partition and select the defaults
when the prompt from fsck appears.  Here is an example.
lilo: linux single
bash# fsck /dev/hda4

Martin Duspiva wrote:

> Hello,
> I've had an accident which damaged a part of my hard disk.
> Fortunately I can still boot Linux and use the apps there, but I also have a
> vfat partition with Windoze (that I need sometimes) and it can't boot. It
> freezes everytime it tries to read some of the damaged data.
> I've tried to use DOS bootdisk with Norton disk doctor, but it freezed too.
>
> Is there some "disk doctor" for Linux?? I really need it, because Linux is
> the only OS I have, that doesn't crash when using the damaged disk.
>
> Thanks


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Subject: Re: circuit layout program
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 02:25:11 GMT

Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can anyone recommend a good circuit layout program?  I am taking my
> first 2 electronics classes and would
> like to make some 'virtual' circuits in class with my laptop. I tried
> klogic but I don't like it much (but maybe that was because it was
> before I actually started to take my classes and knew what I was doing).
> 
> Can anyone point me to some good ones out there?
> 
> Thanks

By layout, do you just want a picture or a schematic which you can
later use for spice modeling. If you just want a nice picture, then I
would suggest xcircuit or dia. xcircuit is a bit primitive looking but
well suited for the task. dia is a more general drawing program but it
has a nice set of electrical icons.

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Re: circuit layout program
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 02:25:48 GMT

Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can anyone recommend a good circuit layout program?  I am taking my
> first 2 electronics classes and would
> like to make some 'virtual' circuits in class with my laptop. I tried
> klogic but I don't like it much (but maybe that was because it was
> before I actually started to take my classes and knew what I was doing).
> 
> Can anyone point me to some good ones out there?
> 
> Thanks

To follow up on my previous post, try www.opencollector.org for all
sorts of related programs.

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: ext2 file size limit?
Date: 17 Sep 2000 22:28:32 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>This is a problem with the current i386 (32-bit) ext2 kernel code.  I
>>don't know if the 2.4.x kernel will fix this or not.
>
>Could you be more specific about that?  The last time I checked the 
>ext2 code, it merely had the same limitation as VFS + LIBC.
>
>I expect Alexander Viro can comment on this more competently than
>anyone else, as VFS is basically "his baby."

Sigh... Rewrite of the data side of things (pagecache and firends) is
the work of Ingo. Main part had been done circa 2.3.7-2.3.9.

Limitations were more on VM side, BTW - when pages became indexed by
page number instead of offset (i.e. by offset/PAGE_CACHE_SIZE) all mess
with long long went away. Resulting limit (on 32bit boxen): 2G pages, i.e. 8Tb.

Changes on filesystem side were "OK, now we can drop this check protecting
us from creation of files we couldn't handle"

So it's rather libc+VM problem.

-- 
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid.  Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.

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From: "Andrew Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: inetd problem on Raq 3 server
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 03:52:14 +0100

I am having trouble getting inetd to work properly on my server. It was
working fine to start with, but I restarted it a coupel of times and now,
when it tries to spawn child processes for telnetd, proftpd or qpopper,
these processes die as soon as they are started.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Email response would be appreciated if poss.

Thanks

Andrew.
___________________________
Andrew Pattison
Sotware Foundation Limited
____________________
Fife.net | DAFC.net



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: I Need A Shell Script, Or A C Program....
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 03:02:28 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Lauzon wrote:

>I need a shell script to run as root, it will...

And I need for you to learn how to post properly formatted postings to
appropriate groups: wrap your posts, and figure out how to (and why not to)
cross-post.  

I have a feeling neither of us is going to get that for which we ask.

[You posted your request seperately to three different groups.  On Usenet,
that is considered rather rude.  None of which were the right ones. There's
nothing Linux-specific about your question, but I guess you couldn't find
alt.somebody.do.my.homework.for.me.whine.whine.whine?]


>'Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow you may work.'

Yes, tomorrow I work.  Apparently you are averse to the activity and want
others to do it for you.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  This PORCUPINE knows
                                  at               his ZIPCODE... And he has
                               visi.com            "VISA"!!

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From: Dextrose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Error with man command...
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:55:13 -0700


Man works fine when I'm logged on as root.  But, if I try to log on as a
user other than root and use man...I get the following error message:

Formatting page, please wait...
There is no -= option ("less --help" for help)
Error executing formatting or display command.
System command /usr/bin/bzip2 -c -d /var/catman/cat1/find.1.bz2 |
/usr/bin/less -is exited with status 1.


Anyone have any suggestions as to how I might fix this?  Or why it's
even happening to begin with?  I'm rather new...so, I'm lost.  Thanks in
advance for any help.


-= Dextrose =-


P.S.  It's Mandrake 7.1


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Newer versions of CDRECORD no longer work...
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 03:05:18 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MH wrote:
>Dances With Crows wrote:

>Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
>cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
>cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you
>are root.
>
>Note THAT I AM logged on as root.

Are you sure you've got a SCSI driver runing?  Can you mount a CD in the
SCSI drive?  If that works, make sure you've got the SCSI-generic module
installed -- I think it's called "sg".

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Does that mean
                                  at               I'm not a well-adjusted
                               visi.com            person??

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From: "Andrew P. Billyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general,alt.linux
Subject: Re: The Truth About the Kursk Disaster
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 03:11:26 GMT

You nailed it on the head.  Satire.  Before anyone comes down on David ..
anymore they should read some Jonathan Swift (sp?)

Tomas Kroown wrote:

> Best bloody satirical story I have read for a long time.
>
> Check out www.chaser.com.au  for more...
>
> "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Some new information has come to light over the Kursk disaster. For
> > those with short attention spans, the Kursk was the submarine that blew
> > up and sank in the Artic Ocean killing all 118 on board. The Russians
> > tried to blame the incident on a collision with an unidentified object.
> > However, sonar tapes which recorded the blasts (a small one at first,
> > then a much larger one two minutes later) cast doubt on these claims. A
> > whistle blower within the Russian military has leaked that the crew of
> > the Kursk was testing a new type of torpedo when the accident occured.
> > It seemed very likely that the test didn't go quite as planned.
> >
> >  While rescue efforts to save the survivors of the Kursk failed, salvage
> > crews were able to recover a 'Black Box' from the submarine which
> > contained detailed accounts of the events leading up to the explosion.
> > As luck would have it, we got a copy of those tapes.
> >
> >  It turns out that the submarine crew was trying to load Microsoft
> > Windows on their fire control computer. Their intent was to replace the
> > aging CP/M operating system with the flashier Windows OS. Apparently,
> > the Russians didn't know about the legendary stability problems
> > exhibited by Windows. The log tapes make this painfully obvious:
> >
> >  Captain: Is the new fire control Windows OS installed yet Comrade?
> >
> >  Seaman: Almost Sir. We just need to finish filling out the registration
> > card.
> >
> >  Captain: Excellent. Soon we will be able to point and click our enemies
> > into oblivian.
> >
> >  [evil laughter in background]
> >
> >  Seaman: Comrade Captain! It is booting! Look, it says "Preparing to run
> > Windows for the first time".
> >
> >  [long pause]
> >
> >  Seaman: Arrgh! Sir, it wants me to reboot again. That makes the 27th
> > time.
> >
> >  Captain: Hmmm. This is not encouraging. Go ahead and reboot again.
> >
> >  Seaman: Aye Sir.
> >
> >  [another long pause]
> >
> >  Seaman: Captain, it is up again. It says it found new hardware ... A
> > CD-ROM drive and that it needs drivers.
> >
> >  Captain: Where are the drivers?
> >
> >  Seaman: On the CD-ROM.
> >
> >  Captain: You are joking, right?
> >
> >  Seaman: No Sir.
> >
> >  Captain: Reboot the damn thing again. I am starting not to like this
> > Windows.
> >
> >  [another long pause]
> >
> >  Seaman: Sir! It is back! It says it found the Gorby2000 Torpedo and is
> > looking for the device drivers. Do we have a driver disk?
> >
> >  Captain: I do not think so.
> >
> >  Seaman: I will tell it to use the default drivers.
> >
> >  [another long pause]
> >
> >  Seaman: Crap. It wants to reboot again.
> >
> >  Captain: How many times are we going to reboot today? This is taking
> > forever. Our hull is going to rust out before this works.
> >
> >  [another long pause]
> >
> >  Seaman: Sir! It is up and this time it is not asking for anything!
> >
> >  Captain: Really? No device drivers? No registration cards? No user
> > profiles?
> >
> >  Seaman: No Sir. I think it is ready.
> >
> >  Captain: Good work comrade. Now click on the fire control icon and let
> > us see how this works.
> >
> >  Seaman: Clicking now, Sir.
> >
> >  [another long pause]
> >
> >  Captain: Why does the fire control screen have a dancing paper clip on
> > it?
> >
> >  Seaman: I have no idea Sir.
> >
> >  Captain: Hmmm, well try clicking on the menu.
> >
> >  Seaman: Aye Sir. Let us see; Open E-mail, Spam a friend, Mail a Virus,
> > Fire a Torpedo.
> >
> >  Captain: We will spam a friend later. Let us fire a torpedo.
> >
> >  Seaman: Aye Sir.
> >
> >  [another long pause]
> >
> >  Seaman: It is asking us to load the torpedo and to click when ready.
> >
> >  Captain: Torpedo room, load a torpedo in tube number 1!
> >
> >  [intercom:] This is the Torpedo room. The torpedo is loaded Sir.
> >
> >  Captain: Click on the continue button.
> >
> >  Seaman: Aye Sir.
> >
> >  [another long pause]
> >
> >  Seaman: It is asking for a target Sir.
> >
> >  Captain: Hmmm, target the Rainbow Warrior.
> >
> >  Seaman: Aye Sir. Damn! It says the torpedo is low on ink.
> >
> >  Captain: Click ignore. We will get some ink when we return to base.
> >
> >  Seaman: Aye Sir. We are ready to fire.
> >
> >  Captain: Very good. You may fire when ready comrade.
> >
> >  Seaman: Firing torpedo Sir.
> >
> >  [another really long pause]
> >
> >  Captain: Well?
> >
> >  Seaman: I am trying Sir. Nothing is happening. Wait a minute....
> >
> >  [a loud explosion is heard in the background followed by screaming on
> > intercom]
> >
> >  Captain: WTF was that?!?!?
> >
> >  Seaman: Captain! A new screen has appeared!
> >
> >
> >  Outlook Express Fire Control has performed an illegal operation and
> > will be shut down.
> >
> >  Click 'OK' to continue.
> >
> >
> >  Seaman: Oh my God! The paper clip has died! What should I do?
> >
> >  Captain: Shut it down! Shut it down!
> >
> >  Seaman: It is not responding Sir!
> >
> >  Captain: Try 'CTRL-ALT-DELETE'!
> >
> >  Seaman: Aye Sir. We are in luck! The task manager is still operating. I
> > am instructing the task manager to shut down Outlook Fire Control.
> >
> >  [another long pause]
> >
> >  Seaman: The task manager says that Outlook Fire Control is not
> > responding.
> >
> >  Captain: Well no shit. Tell it to 'end task'.
> >
> >  Seaman: Nothing is happening Sir.
> >
> >  Captain: Try 'CTRL-ALT-DELETE' again.
> >
> >  Seaman: Aye Sir.
> >
> >  [sounds of frantic pecking on keyboard.]
> >
> >  Seaman: Oooh! What a pretty blue screen!
> >
> >  Captain: Holy Shit! Not the blue screen of dea....
> >
> >  [ KABLAM! A really big explosion. More screaming and the sound of
> > rushing water.]
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >  The tape ends at this point.
> >
> >  During the week long rescue effort, divers reported hearing tapping in
> > the form of morse code coming from survivors inside the damaged sub. The
> > rescuers couldn't understand why a group of men would spend the last of
> > their strength tapping out "windows sucks" in morse code. The tapes of
> > the last moments of the Kursk may offer some insight into this.
> >
> > --
> > Where do you want to go today?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Disk utilities for Linux
Date: 18 Sep 2000 03:16:19 GMT
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:28:52 +0200, Martin Duspiva wrote:
>Hello,
>I've had an accident which damaged a part of my hard disk.  Fortunately
>I can still boot Linux and use the apps there, but I also have a vfat
>partition with Windoze (that I need sometimes) and it can't boot. It
>freezes everytime it tries to read some of the damaged data.  I've
>tried to use DOS bootdisk with Norton disk doctor, but it freezed too.
>
>Is there some "disk doctor" for Linux?? I really need it, because Linux
>is the only OS I have, that doesn't crash when using the damaged disk.

Is this damage physical damage, or filesystem damage?  If the disk is
physically damaged, there's not much that Linux can do--you can check if
the DOS partition was physically damaged by doing something like "dd
if=/dev/hdaX of=/dev/null bs=8192" (where X is the number of the DOS
partition) and watching for errors.

If it's just the filesystem, there is a utility called "dosfsck" that is
similar to SCANDISK.EXE but somewhat less full-featured.  Before using
it, I'd try to mount the damaged DOS partition read-only and copy all
the data you can to somewhere safe, just in case.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: kde config / startup help needed.
Date: 18 Sep 2000 03:16:20 GMT
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:14:56 GMT, Roy F. Cabaniss wrote:
>Lessee... 
>Using SuSe 6.3, kernal 2.2.35 or so.  3dfx voodoo and plenty of ram
>(remembering when 8 meg was a ton).  Most of the time I go straight to a
>graphical interface.  Until very recently I had been using fvwm2.  I
>have almost decided to switch to kde (drag and drop to a desktop is an
>advantage)  I have some questions on kde that I have not been able to
>find in the manuals.
>
>1. How to I make an automatically started app goto a specific window?

Not sure what you mean here.  KDE has several options for window
placement that you can configure via "kcontrol", but apps that are
started via ~/Desktop/Autostart/ will most likely get stuck on virtual
desktop 1 according to the window placement policy you set in kcontrol.

>2. At the moment I have to su to root to manually start the sound and
>then restart X to get sound on kde.   After that it works fine.  How can
>I make the sound come on automatically? (I use oss as the main sound
>program as far as I know.)

?  Are you using the commercial OSS, or the kernel modules?  If it's the
kernel modules, then in /etc/conf.modules:
alias char-major-14 $SOUND_MODULE_YOU_USE

If it's the commercial OSS, put the command you use to start OSS into
/sbin/init.d/boot.local .

>3. Can I get kde to use au sounds?  If no.. I have a couple of classic
>au's  that I am very fond of... how would I convert them?

I believe that KDE uses .wav by default, but "sox" can convert almost
any sound format to any other sound format.  "sox file.au file.wav"
should do the trick.

>4. Is it at all possible to replace the pager used in kde with the one
>used in fvwm2?  I LOVE that old pager..... and it has been the main
>reason I have not switched yet.

Can't help you there, but check http://freshmeat.net/ for "pager" and
see if someone's ported it.  Any application can run under KDE if the
proper libraries are present; the old fvwm pager may work if you just
start it up using the Alt-F2 command line or ~/Desktop/Autostart ....

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From: Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: circuit layout program
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:17:50 -0500

Consider Sci-Lab.2.4 or higher. 
It has a nice modeling tool with widgets that mimick signal generators,
oscilloscopes,  op amps, and/or gates,  etc... 

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Glitch wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a good circuit layout program?  I am taking my
>first 2 electronics classes and would
>like to make some 'virtual' circuits in class with my laptop. I tried
>klogic but I don't like it much (but maybe that was because it was
>before I actually started to take my classes and knew what I was doing).
>
>Can anyone point me to some good ones out there?
>
>Thanks

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From: Dan Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: monitor off
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 03:07:03 GMT

I want to leave the Linux monitor always on, how to do this?
(I've disabled the CMOS power-management feature, and uninstalled the
apm in Linux; I am using redhat 6.0, on compaq deskpro2000 5166)

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