Linux-Misc Digest #795, Volume #21 Mon, 13 Sep 99 19:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Telnet as root (MBr)
Re: Sound Editor Projects? (Erik de Castro Lopo)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Win right-click) (Joseph Crowe)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Tom Dominico, Jr.)
Virtual Host limit on Apache ? (Danny Aldham)
Re: REAL PLAYER Install Problems. (Eric Y. Chang)
system hangs on leaving Xwindows
Re: FREE EAST TIMOR!!! STOP THE KILLING!!! (James Knott)
Re: How can I disable su? (Bob Hauck)
Netscape Keyboard Event Problem (Olivier Girard)
??: Data Input Interface for MySQL??? (jsrockford)
Re: HOW TO SEE A SHARE DRIVE ON A NETWORK (Robert Heller)
Re: kppp connects and immediately disconnects with pppd died (Jim Evans)
Fat32? (RE)
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From: MBr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet as root
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:09:48 +0200
"Kenny A. Chaffin" wrote:
>
> In article <7rfia8$aqb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have a small Ethernet network setup in my house (three machines) and I
> > would like to be able to telnet as ROOT from my workstation (dual boot Linux
> > / Win95) to my Samba server (Redhat 5.2) or Slackware machine. I can telnet
> > just fine as regular user, what is stopping me from doing so as root. I know
> > I have read some thing about this before, it is a security concern and is
> > not allowed by default.
> >
> > Thanks
You could also do it the regular way and log in as user and than su to
root
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> Look out Joe!!! Here they come! <grin>
> Seriously though, I had the same need. RH 6.0 checks the /etc/securetty
> file which lists the tty's which allow login as root. I was not able to
> determine how to modify this to allow root telnet, but by renaming the
> file (so login doesn't find it) I'm able to telnet in.
>
> Best Wishes,
> KAC
> --
> KAC Website Design
> Custom Programming, Web Design, and Graphics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.kacweb.com
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"It may hurt my pride to be wrong once in a while, but I
rather be flamed with better information than to be left
blissfully ignorant." /-- Manuel Beunder, maintainer of:
http://www.euronet.nl/~mailme - The SB Live!-Linux page
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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Sound Editor Projects?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:36:00 +1000
Web Serf wrote:
>
> I'm interested in getting into some kind of open source sound editor
> project. What sort of things are going on now? I looked into AudioTech
> but it seems, if not dead, then comatose and unlikely to regain
> consciousness. What I'm thinking is a modular oriented project that
> will do for sound what the GIMP does for graphics. I'm open to either
> KDE or Gnome desktops. Any ideas?
Have a look at the Linux Sound and Midi Page:
http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linuxsound/one-page.html
Erik
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"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god
than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible
gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen Roberts
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:01:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Dominico, Jr.) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <7rc0nk$2n8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >That is my complaint -- the idiotic notion that, in order to install
> >something as complex as Office 97, all you need to know is how to
> >mindlessly click through the wizard. No. I maintain that
> >understanding computers in a general sense, and specifically
> >understanding what is going where, and why, should be a requirement.
> >Knowing how to do a custom install, and knowing why/when you would
> >need to do so, should also be expected. Otherwise, the bozo in
> >question should defer to someone who *is* qualified.
>
> You know, as I have been reading your various posts, I am taken aback
> by the sheer arrogance and rudeness displayed. Why would an issue
> like this make you so angry?
Advocating ignorance always makes me angry. Saying that people should
remain ignorant "because Microsoft knows what's best for them" makes me
angry. People who mistake my desire for people to be a bit more
enlightened as "arrogance" makes me wonder if anyone on this planet
really understands the English language.
Yeah, I've got an attitute. So do you. So do all of the contemptible
trolls and other MS-Defenders who post here, saying that people
shouldn't hafta know nuthin' at all about 'puters but should still be
able to modify them, change them, with impunity, by being able to
install 100+ megabytes of data and code without knowing anything about
the processes involved.
> Sadly, I have noted many others who share your elitist attitude that
> only computer "experts" like yourself should be able to own/operate
> one.
This has nothing to do with "only computer 'experts' . . . should be
able to own/operate" a computer. It has to do with having an inkling of
intelligence. Computers are sophisticated. Complex. Unrivalled as
compared to other consumer devices. A computer can be a phone, FAX,
Television, CD player and Word Processor all at the same time, while
still having the capacity to do other functions as well. Yet people
like you insist that nobody should need any skill when working with one.
Yet we need to pass a written test before we are allowed to drive cars,
to prove that we have an inkling of awareness with regard to the rules
of the road, and how to operate the vehicle.
> Anyone who does not meet your criteria for being considered a
> competent user is immediately classified a "bozo". What an arrogant,
> ignorant statement.
No. Frustrated. Not arrogant. It's the MS-Contingent with their "We Won
The OS War And Everyone Else Is A Luzer" who are arrogant. Their smug
"Our Way Is The Only Proper Way To Do Anything" mindset is arrogant.
> While I am good with computers, I know virtually nothing about car
> repair. Yet, I am able to drive a car.
If you have really read any of my other posts, then you would know that
I have no problem with computer-ignorant people ***USING*** computers.
You simply misunderstand what I say, perhaps deliberately, in order to
justify your petty tirade against me.
> If something goes wrong, I take it to the shop.
Precisely.
> I wonder if the repair guys consider me to be a bozo because I do not
> know how to make simple repairs?
If you tried to make the simple repair in question, and munged it up,
making more work for them to clean up the mess, then yes, they probably
think you're a bozo. You see, that's my issue, the idea that
computer-ignorant people should be able to ***ADMINISTER*** a computer,
which is ********NOT******** the same thing as *******USING******* a
computer.
But idiots insist on equating Administration (i.e., installing software,
configuring the system) with Use (i.e., data entry, word processing,
drafting). Computer-ignorant people can and should *****USE*****
computers. If they want to *****ADMINISTER***** a computer, they should
learn about it first. To me, it's only common sense. To you, it's
arrogance.
Go figure.
> On the contrary, I'm sure they appreciate the revenue I bring them.
> In the same vein, we as computer "experts" can capitalize on our
> knowledge, and use it to help out people who are unskilled. Ever hear
> of "Technical Support?" They exist to help out end users.
You mean those guys who immediately suggest rebooting the computer,
regardless of the problem? I have had such bozos tell me to reboot
because I got locked out of a mainframe session on an MVS system! Rather
than go into MVS and reset my password, they tell me to reboot!
That is just plain stupid. Stupid beyond belief, yet we pay these
people!
-- snip --
> Elitists like you want to keep "the common folk" in the dark ages
> because they are not willing to study the intricacies of computer
> systems.
This is unadulterated bullshit. It's MS who want to keep people in the
Dark Ages. "Don't worry about learning anything! Let us take care of
everything! We know what's best for you! Pay no attention to the man
behind the curtain . . . Don't Worry! Be Happy!"
No. What I advocate is a little bit of enlightenment, so that the Great
Unwashed can become a little less unwashed. And a bit less brainwashed
by MS.
> Grow up and drop the attitude. Luckily you are skilled with
> computers and can surround yourself with them, for I can't imagine
> that any human would want to be around you and your arrogance.
For someone who "can't imagine" something, you certainly have a vivid
imagination . . .
> To save bandwidth, I will simulate your probable response to my post.
> Here goes: "F**K YOU YOU JERK, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING YOU BOZO."
>
> Was that pretty close?
Not even. Sorry to disappoint you.
Curtis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:07:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I totally agree with you. Thanks for saying what I have been
> thinking for a long time while reading some of the Linux news
> groups.
>
> ...cwa
Another believer in "Ignorance is Bliss."
Curtis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:07:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I totally agree with you. Thanks for saying what I have been
> thinking for a long time while reading some of the Linux news
> groups.
>
> ...cwa
Another believer in "Ignorance is Bliss."
Curtis
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From: Joseph Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Win right-click)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:02:43 -0500
On 12 Sep 1999, Guy Macon wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aram
> Iskenderian) wrote:
> >
> >Would you mind to stop accusing me of crossposting when you have no
> >collected some facts before you do that?
>
> I just did, and posted them above. I do not know where you got the
> notion that the first person to post an article into more than one
> newsgroup has crossposted and that any followup articles that are
> posted into the same newsgroups are not crossposted, but you are
> wrong. I am crossposting. You are crossposting. So is Jeff, and
> a bunch of other folks. Look up the definition of "Crossposting".
>
> >Now who was the one who cross posted?
>
> You. Me. Many others.
>
> >And before you misunderstand this I am not accusing Jeff of cross
> >posting, as this thread was long time here.
>
> Crossposting is sending a post that has more than one newsgroup in
> the "Newsgroups:" header line. Period. How long a thread has been
> around has nothing to do with it.
>
> (and before someone makes an anwarrented assumption, crossposting
is not, in and of itself, bad.
Guy makes a correct observation here. Crossposting actually costs
little in the way of bandwidth and storage, and in the historical context,
that beats true SPAM, serial posting of annoying messages to multiple
newsgroups, each with the same bandwidth eating/storage consuming content.
That said, and to relate back to the original topic....it seems that QNX
would have made an ideal basis for a new Amiga OS. The problems of the
original kernel in the Amiga related to the fragility of the message
passing paradigm. Essentially, the sender would have some memory allocated
and build a message in it. Then the sender sent a pointer to the message
to the receiver. There was no memory protection and any application could
trash everything. The Exec was great for its time and there were developer
tools that helped the writers of apps to avoid problems. However, that is
the Windows and MacOS model and it clearly has a major flaw. Nowadays, the
slowest PC processor can deal with the overhead of a well-protected
microkernel with a message passing paradigm that is robust. To build on
top of something like QNX with a similar API as AmigaOS would make a lot of
sense and relieve Amiga application programmers of a lot of, largely
ineffective, overhead.
But, Linux, though an excellent kernel, would not allow the Amiga
layered software to differentiate itself from any other environment.
Actually, in any case, BeOS may have supplanted the AmigaOS for its target
niche. And remember, Folks, OALA, EHOATAS.
Joseph Crowe
http://www.io.com/~jcrowe
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Dominico, Jr.)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:37:37 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <7rjdn4$vpq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
If Curtis used XML, I think this is what his tags would look like:
<arrogance><superiority_complex><ignorance>
>No, on the contrary, it's the Unwashed Windows Masses who adopt that
>view, which is why so many Unwashed Trolls post "Linux Sux" flamebait
>with such appalling regularity.
[-snip-]
>> Are you really so limited in your ability to even _conceptualize_ that
>> you cannot conceive of a platform, an interface, that's as friendly as
>> Windows without looking like it?
>
>Again, that is the view of the Unwashed, and it's based, at least in
>part, on the notion that Windows *defines* "user-friendly" for them, and
>they're unwilling to consider other definitions.
</arrogance></superiority_complex></ignorance>
>Curtis
>
>
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>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
If this is an example of "sharing what you know", please keep it to
yourself. Mostly, you are showing how little you actually know. Try to
focus on the "learn what you don't" part.
It's a shame that raving zealots like yourself only end up hurting the
Linux cause, by making Linux users appear to be rude and arrogant. I
actually like Linux, and Be, etc. I too think that Windows has many
faults. But there are better ways to persuade than name-calling. Why do
some people insist that there must be One True Operating System(TM),
anyway? Different OS's have different strengths. Accept it, and move on.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Virtual Host limit on Apache ?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:38:55 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
I have a webserver running apache 1.3 on Redhat Linux, and today our
virtual host count went to 508, and we started getting cannot fork child
errors. Is there a counter or config file I need to bump up to allow more
than 500 virtual hosts?
--
Danny Aldham Providing Certified Internetworking Solutions to Business
www.postino.com E-Mail, Web Servers, Mail Lists, Web Databases, SQL & Perl
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Y. Chang)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: REAL PLAYER Install Problems.
Date: 13 Sep 1999 18:41:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, this could not be my problem. I am running RedHat 5.1, which
uses a 2.0 kernel.
Thanks anyway, Eric
A Guy Called Tyketto ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
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: > Wow. This sounds like exactly what the problem is. Unfortunately, I
: > don't know how to use dd to clear out the NONBLOCK error. Actually, I
: > do not see such an error. Also, is the rpopen patch part of Linux or
: > RealPlayer? I am using RedHat 5.1 (2.0.34).
: Nope. not part of linux at all. dd is a basic utility for
: writing data to disk. the rpopen program/patch was something someone had
: written, when the bug in the late 2.1.11* kernels was fixed. See
: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes for info on where to get this, or
: to apply dd to realplayer 5.0. be sure to back up realplayer before
: doing it.
: BL.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: system hangs on leaving Xwindows
Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:43:59 GMT
Can anyone help me with the following:
I tried installing Xwindows, and everything seems to work just fine, but when I
try to leave the program (either by exiting or by changing consoles
(<ALT+CTRL+1>) the system hangs with a black screen. I have to reset my
computer.
I use a Pentium, 233 MHz, 64 Mb RAM. My videocard is a DIAMOND Stealth II S220.
My monitor is a (very old) Tatung Svga. I use X11R6. I use Kernel 2.2.6,
installed from Slackware.
My XF86Config file is created with the following information:
hsync: 31.5-35.1 (standard SVGA)
vsync: 50-70
card from database: DIAMOND Stealth II S220
server: XF86_SVGA
video memory: 4096K (on startup, 4M RAM video memory is shown)
No RAMDAC, no clockchip
When i use superprobe, the system also hangs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k
Subject: Re: FREE EAST TIMOR!!! STOP THE KILLING!!!
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:15:13 -0400
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <01befdb7$e3614dc0$0100a8c0@thomas>,
"Thomas Skyt Jessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >FREE EAST TIMOR NOW!
>> >STOP THE KILLING KNOW!
>> >
>> >Please take a look at the nearest
>> >internacional news broadcast.
>> >
>> >Remember KOSOVO, RUANDA,
>> >BOSNIA, CAMBODJA, KURDISTAN,
>> >or the HOLOCAUST. Or remember all
>> >of them. You may as well add
>> >EAST TIMOR to this list.
>> >
>> >DO SOMETHING!
>> >
>> >Do what ever you can.
>> >
>> >Better even:
>> >STOP SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED!
>> >
>> > FREE EAST TIMOR
>>
>> Let's all send them our old Linux CDs!!!
>
>no ... why not send all our old (and the new ones too) Windows CDs?
I thought we were supposed to be helping the people in East Timor.
But then, if we sent those Windows CDs to the miltia that's killing
everyone, perhaps... ;-)
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From: Bob Hauck <b o b h @ w a s a t c h . c o m>
Subject: Re: How can I disable su?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 15:44:08 -0600
"Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> John Doe wrote:
> >
> > How can I allow only certain users to have access to su?
> You have to make a version of su that checks the userid against a list of
> valid user ids. Then compile the new program, make it suid root and
> install it in place of su. Get the source from the distribution.
You could also make su owned by group "wheel or similar, make it mode
4550, and add the allowed users to that group.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Wasatch Communications Group
-| http://www.wasatch.com/~bobh
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From: Olivier Girard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x,netscape.public.mozilla.general
Subject: Netscape Keyboard Event Problem
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:48:12 GMT
Javascript keyboard events (OnKeyPress etc....) are not functionning at
all for my Linux XFree86 x86 version. I guess it is some X setup (key
binding ) file which isn't well configured. However I tried to modify
the /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/Netscape (RH6.0) file but it didn't fix
the problem. Maybe it is the Gnome configuration (I am using
gnome) which is involved. How knows?
Please Help !!!!!
Olivier Girard
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From: jsrockford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ??: Data Input Interface for MySQL???
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:07:59 GMT
I'm trying to learn SQL and have a stupid question: Is there a software
pkg that allows for "easy" [ie. graphical; don't preach to me how easy
command line is] data input? Would like to do it over a network
connection from both Windows and Linux. I've looked at
http://www.mysql.com but haven't found what I'm looking for yet...lots
of Admin type programs but haven't found an easy way to input data. I'm
talking something in a similar format as Access, et al. There's GOT to
be an easier way than "INSERT INTO ..... VALUES (....)" Right?
Eventually I want to get to a PHP implementation but right now I'm just
looking for a basic stand alone software program. Thanks!
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HOW TO SEE A SHARE DRIVE ON A NETWORK
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:16:50 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joao),
In a message on Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:15:32 GMT, wrote :
J> Hi.
J>
J> I havea a LAN With a Red Hat Linux Server and 5 Workstations with
J> Win98.
J>
J>
J> Is possible create a Filesystem on hardrive of Linux where I can see
J> my files on the workstations?.....Win files (word, excel,etc...)?
YES!
J>
J> If so, how can I do that ?
First, you need to install Samba:
Insert the RedHat CD in your CD-ROM drive and mount it (say under
/mnt/cdrom), then install with RPM:
# rpm -hiv /mnt/crom/RedHat/RPMS/samba*.rpm
Now you can edit /etc/smb.conf, which comes loaded with examples.
Start up the server:
# /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb start
Make sure that the 'workgroup' in /etc/smb.conf and the workgroup setup
on the Win9x boxes match. You might need to re-boot the Win9x boxes.
J>
J> Excuse my English.
J> Thanks In Advance
J>
J> Joao Pinto
J> Excuse my English.
J> Thanks In Advance.
J>
J> Joao Pinto
J>
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From: Jim Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: kppp connects and immediately disconnects with pppd died
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:30:21 -0500
I had the same problem:
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
helped me fix my kppp problem.
But first, if you are using PAP, make sure you have nothing entered in the
script. That was the final step to fixing my problem.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RE)
Subject: Fat32?
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:12:04 GMT
Hi
The fat32 filesystem is supported by kernel 2.2.x? (Rh6, Suse 6.1, ...)
TIA.
Roberto
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