Linux-Misc Digest #795, Volume #18               Thu, 28 Jan 99 08:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: ftape - difficulties with floppy controller (Dr Paul Kinsler)
  Re: Where do I find LILO source? (Ross Crawford)
  Re: [Famous Finn] Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (C Lamb)
  Silly question about SVGAlib (David Spacey)
  Re: Linux on an overclocked PII (Frank Hale)
  Re: Help for STB nVidia ZX video card ("Jim Orfanakos")
  Re: Where did OPTi931 Mini-HOWTO go? ("Jesus M. Salvo Jr.")
  Can't rsh from NT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: IntelliMouse problem with XFree86 (jackle)
  Re: Corel WP8.0 Personal Edition is Out! (Duncan Simpson)
  Re: LINUX PPP on a SPARC10 (Duncan Simpson)
  Re: kernel 2.20 problem (zipht)
  Re: linux max RAM is 1GB? (Kristofer Coward)
  Linux on an overclocked PII (Frank Hale)
  Re: /etc/issue (Dan Mack)
  Re: Looking for software on the Net ("Stuart Updegrave")
  Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (John Girash)
  LILO + shutdown questions (David Young)
  Re: OpenSSL (Gary Momarison)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Paul Kinsler)
Subject: Re: ftape - difficulties with floppy controller
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:10:44 +0000 (GMT)

Grand Poobah of PRAM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where is this Howto?  I didn't see it at the LDP.

It was with my Slackware (3.2, if I recall) distribution.
I'll quote from the relevant bit:

  4.4.  Mixing ftape and floppies

  Since both the floppy driver and ftape needs the FDC (and IRQ6), they
  cannot run concurrently.  Thus, if you have mounted a floppy and then
  try to access the tape drive, ftape will complain that it cannot grab
  IRQ6 and then die.  This is especially a problem when designing a
  emergency disk for use with ftape.  This solution is to either load
  the boot/root disk into a ramdisk and then unmount the floppy, or have
  two floppy drive controllers.

So that wasn't quite what was in my original reply, but
(un)loading modules usually works for me, as I said.

I've put it at http://bloch.leeds.ac.uk/kinsler/files/Ftape-HOWTO
but you should really go find an up to date version.

-- 
==============================+==============================
Dr. Paul Kinsler                 
Institute of Microwaves and Photonics
University of Leeds            (ph) +44-113-2332089
Leeds LS2 9JT                  (fax)+44-113-2332032
United Kingdom                 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEB: http://www.ee.leeds.ac.uk/staff/pk/P.Kinsler.html

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From: Ross Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Where do I find LILO source?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:39:26 +1100

Vish,

RedHat distributions have it as lilo-xxx.src.RPM. If you want the tarball,
you should be able to find it at the Debian Website, http://www.debian.org

Vish Viswanathan wrote:

> Could some one please tell me where to locate the Lilo loader's source
> code?.
>
> Thanks
> Vish
>
> email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lamb)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [Famous Finn] Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: 28 Jan 1999 11:18:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

El Cabron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: you also forget japan (1904-1905)

Damn, forgive me, I don't know how I forgot the battle of Liaoyang in
the Russo-Japanese war ;) I really could have covered my butt better by
using USSR instead of Russia. Must remember to wangle my way out of
difficult situations better :)

C

: Matthias Warkus wrote:

: > It was the 13 Jan 1999 12:53:00 GMT...
: > ..and C Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > [Finland]
: > > and it is the only country to successfully invade Russia and win.
: >
: > You forget Poland (~1922).
: >
: > mawa
: > --
: > Matthias Warkus    |    [EMAIL PROTECTED]    |    Dyson Spheres for sale!
: > My Geek Code is no longer in my .signature. It's available on e-mail request.
: > It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR actually
: > lowers your social status...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Spacey)
Subject: Silly question about SVGAlib
Date: 28 Jan 1999 11:25:00 GMT

Hi All,

OK, here it is.  Why do I have to be root to run an svgalib program?  OK, 
I know about access to hardware, but X does the same.  As I understand it 
X su's to root only when it needs to, leaving everything else running 
with normal access controls.

So if I made svgalib suid would I be able to run my games as a normal 
user, or would it cause more trouble than it's worth?

After all, the next bliss type virus may not be kind enough to have an 
uninstaller.

Dave Spacey

--
______________________________________________________________________________

Walk tall, walk straight,
Spit the world right in the eye.

-Kevin Godley and Lol Creme

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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on an overclocked PII
Date: 27 Jan 1999 22:38:54 GMT

Niel Markwick wrote:
> 
> Tim Moore wrote:
> > Frank Hale wrote:
> > > I overclocked my PII 266 to 300 and upped the bus speed to 75 mhz. Now
> > > when I boot Linux turns off DMA on my hard drives. Is this bad? What
> > > does DMA do anyway?
> >
> > You overclocked your PCI bus by 15% also.  DMA was turned off due to retry
> > errors.  Better than disk corruption.
> 
> Lucky he wasn't running Win98 - it completely trashed my HDD when I
> tried... I guess Windoze didn't care that it was getting a load of
> errors when accessing the HDD, and wrote to it anyway!
> Fortunately I had a _very_ recent backup ready and waiting!
> 

Actually I overclocked my PII 266 to 300 and upped the bus to 100mhz
aswell and windows worked fine. I booted linux and it crashed on boot. I
am done with overclocking on this old PII 266 (klamath). I am upping to
a celeron soon so I can overclock it to 450. Seems everyone is doing
this with the celeron 300A's.

> (and the answer to the original question is: DMA (Direct Memory Access)
> makes things a bit faster by getting the hard disk to talk to the memory
> directly without involving the CPU... So, by turning it off, the
> processor has to do more work, and you have probably made your PC
> perform worse by overclocking it... ironic!)
> 

I only did it for a few minutes. I figured I would try and see what
happened. I am just running the 266 with turbo mode on (or whatever) now
its at 275mhz and is running fine. 

-- 
From:      Frank Hale
Email:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
ICQ:       7205161                      
Website:   http://www.franksstuff.com/  

"Microsoft - How many times do you want to reboot today?"

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From: "Jim Orfanakos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help for STB nVidia ZX video card
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:05:44 -0500

I have a DELL 400 with a STB 128 card.  I had the same problems.  go to the
www.d128.com web site for the latest RIVA drivers.

Jun Zhuang wrote in message <78nkj9$66$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>We have several new Dell Dimension XPS R450.
>They come with STB nVidia ZXV 8MB 3D 2xAGP video card
>and Dell Trinitron (Ultracsan 1600HS) 21' minotor.
>after we installed Linux Redhat5.2, we couldn't
>get the right color resolution.(I mean , the pictures
>looks BAD).
>While retry several times with Xconfigurator,
>we found the best emulator is Diamond 3D (nv1).
>I called STB, they told me STB nVidia ZXV 8MB 3D 2xAGP
>is same as STB Velocity 128 (which is listed in Redhat5.2's
>driver list in Xconfigurator), but it failed to
>emulate  STB Velocity 128.
>Anyone one happened to know where I can get driver
>for this video card?(I tried search on web but couldn't
>find).
>thanks a lot!
>



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From: "Jesus M. Salvo Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where did OPTi931 Mini-HOWTO go?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:30:44 +0000

http://spoke.nols.com/~drees/opti931.html

I have just made my soundcard work today!!! There were a few steps that I did
that was not in the mini-HOWTO, but it basically is the same.

Check my recent post.


John Salvo


Guentcho Skordev wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.misc Jesus M. Salvo Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Never mind, I found it his new web site. Should have checked with
> > dejanews first!
>
> Hello,
>
> Could you please share the address with us? I have searched in DejaNews too,
> butt maybe with the wrong keywords :-(.
>
> Bye
> Guentcho


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can't rsh from NT
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:36:46 GMT

I need to rsh from NT to linux for remote execution of a shellscript.
I get Permission denied error. rsh works from linux to linux. ftp and ping
works to and from NT. I have entered the NT's name and IP address in the
.rhosts file (on separate lines) as well as in the /etc/hosts.allow file.
These files are publicly readable.
I am not using Kerberos, and do not have any kerberos authentication files, as
it says in the rsh man page.
NT rsh does not provide any -K option, however.

Any ideas on what I should check? Does NT rsh work at your site?
Kindly email replies.
Thanks,
Khushro

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From: jackle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: IntelliMouse problem with XFree86
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 06:39:28 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi!
> I have a problem with configuring my serial MS IntelliMouse with X under Linux.
> I have Slackware 3.3 (2.0.30 kernel, XFree86 3.3). When configuring X (XF86Setup, 
>xf86config or directly editing XF86Config), I
> tried each possible setup, but the mouse cursor didn't want to move anyway.
> With XF86Setup (VGA16 server) I was able to use to mouse as IntelliMouse, but just 
>until I started the final X server.
> It doesn't work neither with VGA16, SVGA nor S3 X servers.
> Can anyone help me?
> Should I download a newer XFree86?
> Please send e-mail to:
>
> Peter Csontos
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanx a lot!

Download the newest version of XFree86 3.3.3 that should fix your problem.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: Corel WP8.0 Personal Edition is Out!
Date: 28 Jan 1999 12:06:18 GMT

In <hxQr2.25958$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher 
Browne) writes:

>On 27 Jan 1999 10:18:05 -0700, Steven Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[stuff snipped]

>According to my calculations:
>(let
>    ((usdprice 47)
>     (exchangerate 1.35)
>     (gst 1.07)
>     (qst 1.08)
>     (endprice 89))
>   (- endprice 
>      (* usdprice
>         exchangerate
>         gst
>         qst)))
>15.6772

>I'd say that Peter may have gotten charged about $16 for the benefit of
>a store in Quebec shipping it in from Ottawa and displaying it on their
>shelf, at least compared to your pricetag.  (I could be off by up to a
>percent on QST.  I haven't been in Quebec for a couple of years; have
>been to Ottawa, but not over to the Quebec side...)

It is not that simple I am afriad. The false assumption here is the same
exchange rate applies for computer stuff as everything else. In the UK
the exchange rate is 1 GBP=$1.5 to a reasonable approximation. IF you
compare computer prices then 1 GBP=$1 or worse. I think you will find most
of the differences accrues to people like M$ and not the people selling
the computers.

Fortunately my computer upgrade is coming with a cheque payable to me
rather than costing me money this time :-) [I have a 486DX2/50 w. 16Mb
and defunct power supply; the new box has 64Mb of memory >=Pentium and
much newer graphics card.]

Duncan (-:

--
Duncan (-:

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux,comp.protocols.ppp,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: LINUX PPP on a SPARC10
Date: 28 Jan 1999 11:57:03 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> James Carlson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[stuff snipped]

Chat script that fails is:
>>  send ATQ0V1E1X4\r
>>  wait OK 5
>>  dial T*70,,*67,,555-1212 #As an example
>>  sleep 1
>>  send \r
>>  send \r
>>  wait Userid: 15
>>  send e(myunixID)\r
>>  wait Password? 15
>[...]

>Most ISPs do NOT want you to do that if you're using PPP.  Instead,
>they want you to just dial in and start using PPP, since that's what
>Windoze does.  If you start chatting a user name at them, then they'll
>usually assume you don't speak PPP.

Apparently all livingston portmasters have been wiped off the face of
the earth from this statements about most ISPs. Muy ISP uses
livingston portmasters and the appropiate chat-up line is

<dail up my ISP with AT commands>
ogin: me
ssword: secret

and then hit PPP mode. Demon internet, the largest ISP in the UK,  wants
<dail up demon internet with AT commands>
oign: you
ssword: password
ocol: ppp

and then hit PPP mode. At one time my ISP wanted you to authenticate
yourself with PAP after seeing the connect message. Windows has its
own equivilent of chat but it is more interactive, disguised and less
well documented. Personally I could all 3 as disadvantages---requiring
me to bring up a terminal windows and retype my name and ssword every
time I connect is a pain.

Duncan (-:
--
Duncan (-:

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Subject: Re: kernel 2.20 problem
From: zipht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:54:23 -0500

i also have had this problem can someone help?
i have the patch but dont know how to apply it. what do i do?

Ken Witherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>ty wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> I just compiled kernel 2.20, and got the following error message.   Do=
es
>> anyone know what's the problem and how to correct it?
>>=20
>> ld -m elf_i386 -T /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds -e stext
>> arch/i386/kernel/head.o arch/i386/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o
>> init/version.o \
>>         --start-group \
>>         arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o
>> mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o \
>>         fs/filesystems.a \
>>         net/network.a \
>>         drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/misc/misc.a
>> drivers/net/net.a drivers/scsi/scsi.a drivers/cdrom/cdrom.a
>> drivers/sound/sound.a drivers/pci/pci.a drivers/pnp/pnp.a
>> drivers/video/video.a \
>>         /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux/lib/lib.a
>> /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a \
>>         --end-group \
>>         -o vmlinux
>> drivers/sound/sound.a(sb_ess.o): In function `ess_init':
>> sb_ess.o(.text+0xde2): undefined reference to `esstype'
>> sb_ess.o(.text+0xe77): undefined reference to `esstype'
>> make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
>
>Get alan cox' patch from ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/alan/2.2


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
From: Kristofer Coward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux max RAM is 1GB?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:42:40 GMT

> For some reason that I don't remember I believe that the 32 bits, although
> theoretically capable of addressing 4GB, can only really address 2GB.  But
> shouldn't this be actually 2G"words" (32 or 64 bits wide?)

I'm pretty sure that Intel processors use byte addressing, regardless of
the width of the data being accessed.


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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on an overclocked PII
Date: 26 Jan 1999 01:25:01 GMT

I overclocked my PII 266 to 300 and upped the bus speed to 75 mhz. Now
when I boot Linux turns off DMA on my hard drives. Is this bad? What
does DMA do anyway? 

Jan 25 20:12:06 FranksPC kernel: hdb: timeout waiting for DMA 
Jan 25 20:12:06 FranksPC kernel: hdb: irq timeout: status=0x58 {
DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } 
Jan 25 20:12:06 FranksPC kernel: hda: DMA disabled 
Jan 25 20:12:06 FranksPC kernel: hdb: DMA disabled 
Jan 25 20:12:06 FranksPC kernel: ide0: reset: success 
Jan

-- 
From:      Frank Hale
Email:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
ICQ:       7205161                      
Website:   http://www.franksstuff.com/  

"Microsoft - How many times do you want to reboot today?"

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From: Dan Mack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /etc/issue
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:14:26 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Any RedHat 5.2 users out there who have tried to change their /etc/issue file?
> 
> I've changed mine repeatedly, and it works fine.. changing the text displayed
> above the login: prompt.  Until I reboot.  And then it reverts back to the
> default message about RedHat blah blah blah.
> 
> Am I doing something wrong, or is RedHat doing something wrong?

You can work around this by looking at /etc/rc.d/rc.local and making the
appropriate changes.


Dan

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From: "Stuart Updegrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: Looking for software on the Net
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:21:02 -0800

Mike Wittek wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
:All;
:Where are some good places on the Internet to find software for Linux
:and its RPM, free or not? This can be a directory of places too.

ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux

~stuart



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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: 27 Jan 1999 22:40:08 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc M Sweger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: But what about this scenario. If I make linux a printerver without
: any video card and I do a reboot of that box, I take it from this
: thread that it'll hang. I don't want to put a video, keyboard and
: monitor on it.

You don't need a monitor to satisfy the (or most) peecee BIOSes, you just
need a video card.  Even an ancient herc card will do.  The actual kb is
usually required (you might be able to find a dummy kb connector to fool 
the BIOS though), but that's neither expensive nor large.

: The same applies to it acting in a network gateway
: scenario or router. What I'd like to do is user another PC,
: that has a keyboard,monitor etc running Linux and telnet from this PC to
: the other linux box (wthout a console) and login in and configure that
: printer server/router/gateway. This will save on the amount of hardware I'd
: have to buy,maintain/fix and occupying space.

I agree with an earlier poster, that the kludginess of peecee hardware is
due to the lack of organising body.  The advantage is that even though stuff
(e.g. kb) is required that's not of other hw, it's also _cheap_.

: If a video card is really needed on the other machine, then I'd say
: linux needs to be fixed so that this isn't a requirement, but that
: in the situtation I need to get direct access using a console, that
: at boot I can manually tell Linux that the console is present.

I saw this coming as soon as this was posted to col*.  This isn't a linux
issue, it's a peecee hardware issue.  Linux doesn't take over the machine
until after the BIOS is happy with the booting situation, so there's no fix
to be made in Linux-space (unfortunately).

Well, I am wrong there: the fix in Linux-space is to go non-x86.
jg.

-- 
"don't listen when you're told / about the best days in your life  : Spirit of
 a useless old expression, it means / passing time until you die." :  the West
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  -- John Girash --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://skyron.harvard.edu/ --

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From: David Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO + shutdown questions
Date: 28 Jan 1999 12:23:32 GMT

I want to change the default in lilo.conf

I need to default to DO$ until my kids get comfortable running Linux
(RedHat 5.2).  The changes I make to lilo.conf do not seem to have an
affect on the boot.  I've tried changing the wait time, but regardless
of what I set it to it will always stay up for about 3 seconds.

I am assuming that I am missing some very basic principle here.

===========

Also I want users to be able to shutdown the system, but even when I
give them shutdown permission the message when running shutdown is "only
root can do that."

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: OpenSSL
Date: 25 Jan 1999 16:29:09 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Grossman) writes:

> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to install OpenSSL so I can install the SSL version of
> Apache.  But I am stuck on one part of the install process for
> OpenSSL.  The line says "./Configure 'system type'".  What do I put in
> system type?  I am running Red Hat 5.2.


See if you can find a "case "$host" in" line in your ./Configure
(or configure.in) script.  There should be a list of what
it's expecting to find.

-- 
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html

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