Linux-Misc Digest #48, Volume #20                 Mon, 3 May 99 23:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  dump on linux (Rick Goyette)
  Re: Alpha Server + WinNT + DOS progs??? (Arcady Genkin)
  Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of 
Communism (really) (Johan Kullstam)
  hidden Users and stuff (Rizwan Syed)
  Re: StarOffice 5.0 (John Thompson)
  Re: fsck finds errors on HD (Hans Koch)
  Re: Simple Netscape Questions (Christopher Mahmood)
  Re: HELP!! Linux Server crashes every 3-4 hours ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? (Chris Johnson)
  Re: Caldera 2.2 "Unofficial" CD? (Ewan Dunbar)
  Re: How to run Trident 3DImage975 -based videocards (Andrew Comech)
  Re: DVD movies on Linux ? (Scott Larson)
  Re: Red Hat Linux - can't login. Pls HELP!! ("Yusmar Yahaya")
  Re: Modem problems : new newsgroup required. (Jody Walker)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
  Re: Help! Null modem and pppd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: download installation redhat-6.0 (lalonde)
  Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of 
Communism (really)^ (Chris Costello)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Goyette)
Subject: dump on linux
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:23:48 -0500

I have been using dump on linux for some time and have been happy with the
results.  Recently, however, I installed a scsi disk onto my system, and
now dump seems to have a problem dumping it to tape.  I am using the scsi
disk as the /home directory, and when I try to dump it to tape I get this
message:

  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Fri Apr 30 10:42:48 1999
  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping /dev/sdb1 (/home) to /dev/st0
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  DUMP: estimated 133447 tape blocks on 0.05 tape(s).
  DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
  DUMP: master/slave protocol botched.
  DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.

Also, when I try to dump the / directory (hda1), the dump will hang up at 
DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] (see below)

  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Fri Apr 30 14:54:30 1999
  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping /dev/hda1 (/) to /dev/st0
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  DUMP: estimated 92418 tape blocks on 0.04 tape(s).
  DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]     <----- this is where it gets stuck.

It seems to have trouble because of the home directory which, as I
mentioned earlier, is on the scsi disk sdb1.  If I unmount the /home
directory dump will dump the / directory to tape with no problem.  It does
not have trouble dumping the /usr directory which is on disk hdb1.  Can
you give me some advise on how to correct this problem?

-- 
R. J. Goyette
Argonne National Laboratory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Alpha Server + WinNT + DOS progs???
From: Arcady Genkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 01:21:26 GMT

"cpm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >   >Hi Everybody !
> >   >My question;
> >   >On my job I have a ALPHA server running UNIX,
> >   >is it possible to change that to a WinNT server running DOS
> >   >programs ??

AFAIK, NT runs on ALPHAs. But you are really posting this to the wrong 
groups. Why *.unix.* groups? You want to switch to NT, right, so post
this in MS newsgroups.

-- 
Arcady Genkin
"I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood..." - GsYBE

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Crossposted-To: 
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of 
Communism (really)
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 03 May 1999 20:46:38 -0400

jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> > 
> > jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > > :    I'm completely aware.  I don't like developing on software
> > > > : that makes me release all of my code.  If I want to, say, use an
> > > > : IRC server that's GPLed, and add my proprietary extensions to it
> > > > : for conferences amongst my coworkers, I can't do that, now, can
> > > > : I?
> > >
> > > Nope, it would be illegal
> > 
> > take away the word proprietary and everyone can be happy.
> 
> Including the lawyers because now they get to get paid.

i don't see that.  here it is again without the work proprietary, in
case it wasn't perfectly clear.

  If I want to, say, use an IRC server that's GPLed, and add my
  extensions to it for conferences amongst my coworkers, I can't do
  that, now, can I?

yes.  you *can* add extensions.

where do the lawyers come in?

> > > > Yes, you can. If you don't distribute it. What the GPL grant you
> > > > is the right to modify the program and the obligation to grant the
> > > > same right to the persons or organisations that you distribute the
> > > > software to.
> > >
> > > Distributing it to coworkers would be distributing it.
> > 
> > yes, but if offer the cow-orkers source and they all agree not to copy
> > it further, then there is no problem.
> 
> As soon as you give it to a single person and your source was not
> licenced under the GPL,....you have just violated the GPL licence.

it would still be under the GPL.  GPL doesn't mean you *have* to
release it.  it just says that if you do release a binary, you need to
provide access to the source.  if you never release anything, the GPL
has nothing to say.

if it never leaves your little group, it makes no difference if you
choose to call it proprietary or not (it won't *be* proprietary since
it's GPL'd but you can try to call it that), since it makes no
difference.  however, once it's left the premises, you can't get it
back.  courts will not agree that it would be proprietary.

> I didn't say it was a big problem,...but there is certainly some
> compatability issues with any other free licence...fact is, the GPL is
> not really free.

i figure that the united states of america is a free country and does
not restrict my freedom of movement or assembly.  yet, if i bring my
buddies, break into your house and throw a wild destructive kegger, i
would be breaking the law and the state would step in and throw me in
jail.  freedom requires justice and responsibility.  it's not anarchy.

-- 
                                           J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
                                           [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                                              Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rizwan Syed)
Subject: hidden Users and stuff
Date: 3 May 1999 18:37:33 GMT

  Ok.. thanks to everyone who has answered my previous questions 
  so far.  Here's the final one, I think.  Lets say I'm going
  to change both the user directory under /home/ as well as the 
  mail directory under /var/spool/mail/   to a .(user) so that 
  they would be semi-hidden.  WHAT are the changes that I need 
  to make so that 
        1.      incoming mail automatically goes to /var/spool/mail/.user
                instead of /var/spool/mail/user

        2.      When that user runs a mailreader, it automatically looks
                for /var/spool/mail/.user instead of /var/spool/mail/user

  I think I should be able to quit buggin you guys after I get these 
  questions answered. :)

  Thanks
  Rizwan
-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
  Rizwan Syed
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 09:37:11 -0600

Jeremy Weinberger wrote:
 
> This means that you had to generate a separate license key for each
> user, right?

I got one key from StarDivision, installed SO using the
"./setup /net" option, and then installed installed for each
user from the central installation.  Yes, I did have to
register each users' copy separately, but once you've
installed Star Office for a user all that has to be done is
to connect to StarDivision's web site and it will generate
the key and register it automatically.

-- 

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Hans Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fsck finds errors on HD
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:33:42 -0500

> Every time when 'fsck' reaches the max. count and checks the HD, --it
always
>finds many-many errors (lost clusters, inodes,...). I can't run fsck
from HD,
>because it complains about libBrokenLocale.so, so I run it from a
rescue
>floppy. The HD is a not too old Western Digital 1.2 GB disk. Why does
it
>happen and what can I do ?

I had a similar problem and it turned out to be bad RAM
that lead fsck to report non-existing disk errors.
You may want to run a memory check.
- Hans Koch




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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple Netscape Questions
Date: 03 May 1999 03:53:59 -0700

you can change all of the fonts.  Some can only be changed via
resources however.  Look in 'Netscape.ad' for a list and description
of some of them.

As for the news reading problem...use a different reader.  the netscape
never worked for me.
-ckm

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP!! Linux Server crashes every 3-4 hours
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 01:15:51 GMT

Hi,

> Is  there  anything  suspicious  in  any of system logs? (/var/log/messages
> secure).  Is it locked totally or can you shout it down? Does it respond to
> pings from other sites?

No, believe it or not....there is absolutely nothing in the logs that would
give a hint what went wrong. The system just locks up totally....you cannot
do anything on the console, and cannot ping either!! I did upgrade apache to
1.3.6 and also PHP3 to 3.0.7. I thought Mysql would've played a part, so
upgraded that to new version. Same thing happens.....crashes approximately
every 2 hours at this stage :( The only thing I have noticed that may be a
clue, is that I run top quite frequently, and have noticed that the free
memory keeps shrinking....it doesnt seem to free up shared memory much. 
Another thing I thought it could be is bad memory. I replaced the memory in
the server (128mb Pentium 233), but to no avail....

I'm kinda run out of ideas at this stage!! Would having an IDE as a boot drive
and using scsi drives as the usr drives etc cause any problems you think?

Cheers,

 - Trevor

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Johnson)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 21:36:12 -0400

In article <7gk1ml$4ij$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pasi Korhonen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.powerpc Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>    I'm still puzzling over some xmodmap details- Jamie Zawinski worked out
>> the ultimate Mac keyboard keymap for the MkLinux setup, but I haven't
>        Now there's a piece of interesting information for us old-NuBuS-
>        MkLinux-users. =) Where can I read more about this ?
>        Pasi
>        8100/80, DR3

   I wish I knew. I found it (labelled something to do with MkLinux) while
busily hacking about to try and figure out how to get my keyboard to make
better sense (for instance, ignoring the distinction between left and
right modifier keys- it's unhelpful that Linux thinks only my left shift
counts- or was it right?)
   This keyboard mapping had _everything_ working right. I've never been
able to get _any_ keyboard mapping correction to stick, and xmodmap seems
to not work run from rc.conf (possibly because I'm not running it
properly). 'More will be revealed', hopefully before long.
   When I talk about ultimate I mean 'everything works normally' which is
far from what I currently put up with everytime I boot into linux- I went
with a Red Hat-like install I downloaded from linuxppc, and there was no
'MkLinux' option for keyboard so I just picked 'US' which is clearly
wrong.
   I'd love advice on how to straighten this out. I've yet to see any, and
might just have to hack it into quivering bits of linux myself and become
the authority if I can't find anybody who can tell me how to get the
keyboard working right. That would, I think, be the traditional approach,
right? All I know is that my keyboard mapping is _very_ wrong when treated
as straight 'US' mapping, and I need it to be the MkLinux mapping and
can't get that to stick (or indeed to happen at all). xmodmap changes
don't stick either.

   Chris Johnson
         @airwindows.com
   chrisj

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From: Ewan Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Caldera 2.2 "Unofficial" CD?
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 20:26:12 -0400

On Mon, 03 May 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Is (or will) the new Caldera 2.2 available on "unofficial" CD's? I've
>checked several Linux CD venders and they only offer the 1.x versions
>on unofficial CD's. Is it just that 2.2 is so new that 3rd party CD's
>haven't been made yet, or is 2.2 not "free"? Hopefully the former is the
>case because it would be sad to see a major Linux distro that cannot
>be freely copied.

Actually, most have commercial software in them, so they can't either. There
have to be versions produced with the commercial software removed. I doubt that
a version of Caldera 2.2 can be produced without the commercial software, since
Partition Magic is so tightly integrated into the installation.

================================================
Ewan Dunbar               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
================================================
Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at
http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.html
================================================


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: How to run Trident 3DImage975 -based videocards
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 May 1999 15:06:10 -0500

On 02 May 1999 11:00:02 +0200, Michael Schmeing wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech) writes:
>
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> Many people complained they could not run videocards with Trident
>> 3DImage975 (9750) chipset at decent resolutions (usually, the screen 
>> just remained black at something like 1024x768).
>> ...
>> The details are at
>> 
>> http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/3DImage975.html
>> 
>> If you have time and need to try this recipe, I'd appreciate to hear
>> from you whether this (or some modification) solves your problems with 
>> this chipset. 
>
>Well I tried it out to some extend: I want to be able to use all
>mentioned resolutions (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1152x864, 1280x1024
>(that is the usual resolution, I never saw 1200x1024 before)) without
>having to edit /etc/XF86Config all the time. I did not manage to get
>there whatever I tried. I can use 640x480, 800x600, 1280x1024 without
>problem but the other two just give a black screen.

Hi Michael, this was certainly supposed to be 1280x1024 (2^11 x 2^10 ;-).

This is unfortunate you could not revive other resolutions this way;
did you try that particular order of particular resolutions?
In particular, I could _only_ get 1024x768 switching to it
from 640x480...

a.


-- 
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Larson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: DVD movies on Linux ?
Date: 3 May 1999 19:02:59 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Robert Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Why would someone want to watch a movie on a desktop
> computer? I have never understood this. The comfort factor would be my
> biggest objection. Then again, if you have a 36 inch monitor and your
> desktop is a studio screening setup...

My monitor has better resolution than my TV. I have to put the TV pretty
far away for the picture to look decent but the monitor looks fine up
close. Also most DVD software will save every DVD bookmark to disk
so they're still there after you've watched another DVD.
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------- 
Scott Larson  ADP Dealer Services
Systems       2525 S.W. 1st     
Programmer    Portland, OR 97201


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From: "Yusmar Yahaya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux,jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux - can't login. Pls HELP!!
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:51:34 +0800


Shellfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi. I've just started reading about Linux and I've got Red Hat
> 5.2 installed. After installing, I rebooted and it asked me for a
> login name. From what I understand, the login is root. I typed that
> in, then my password which i keyed in during installation, but it said
> Bad Login or something like that. What is wrong?? I can't get into
> Linux!! :(
>

At the LILO prompt.... type "linux single" and press <enter>.

>From there on, do what Dinesh suggested.

--
Yusmar Yahaya
www.yusmar.com



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Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 04:21:09 +0000
From: Jody Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Modem problems : new newsgroup required.

"M. Buchenrieder" wrote:

> [Note FollowUp-To: header]
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >I think we need a different newsgroup just to address the
> >issue of installing modems on Linux. There have been
> >"39 MESSAGES" in the past 2 days just addressing modems...
> >so do we have a problem here??
>
> [...]
>
> Yes. There are too many people unwilling to read the messages
> already posted first, prior to posting the 40th message with
> identical content.
>
> I fail to see how _another_ group would help there.
> Just one more group for useless crossposting isn't highly
> desirable, IMHO .
>
> Michael
> --
> Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
>           Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
>     Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.

I have an idea.  How about a HOWTO devoted to nothing but getting modems
configed in Linux.  Or would that be to simple to correct this problem.

Jody Walker
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:30:49 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ed Avis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In any case, this situation is hypothetical.  But I am sure that if
> governments did decide to abolish copyrights on software, they would
> also abolish legal protection for any obvious workarounds.

Of course.  But the venders would have the freedom to make as clever a
solution as they wanted.  You could even distribute encrypted code
which is only decrypted in the CPU itself. (That's been done, it's too
slow today, but you never know).

We might even get away from buying software to running it over the net
for a fee.

I am just not prepared to think that the simple abolishion of copy
right will help to create a utopian world of free software where we get
all the great high-quality stuff we want.

I see an arms race between crackers and venders, with the venders
making it so expensive to crack that it's just cheaper and more
convienent to pay them their due.  Integrating the protection into the
CPU is probably the best bet in terms of making it real hard to crack.

Oh well.....

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From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:26:02 -0700

In article <1%mX2.8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Mikkelson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How would they convince *all* hardware manufacturers to include these
> "uber-dongles"?  Un-dongled manufacturers would probably succeed in the
> marketplace, so the current IP beneficiaries would have to push another
> law through legislature to ban un-dongled machines.


Not at all.  Can you imagine a world where the Copyright law is removed
and yet un-dongled machines would become illegal?  The original premise
of this sub-thread was what would happen if copy right went away.  I
maintain that the large software venders would go to pure binary and
find very creative ways to make it very hard to steal.

Either the CPU or chipset manufactures would create the dongle (causing
virtually all PC's to get it), or the software venders would only sell
newer versions which required the dongle.  I don't see actual
"external" dongles, but rather something like the PIII ID crap.

If all the large venders said starting in three years their software
would require such a dongle, the hardware venders would climb all over
each other to implmement it.  They would have to.

It's not a future I want, but I see it coming.  These companies have
billions at stake and they will fight very hard to keep it coming.

---- Andrew

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help! Null modem and pppd
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 01:30:52 GMT

Hi digs.  Thanks for your response.  I tried to follow Scott's solution for
this based on info you gave but am not sure what could be wrong.  Hopefully
I'll have success, with a little help from you guys out there.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  nts-online.net wrote:
> Hi-
> your setup /very/ much looks mine
> i bet we can get you working just sit tight and we'll work thru
> it.
> you fail to mention any info about your null modem cable
> is it a real /nul/modem or just a cable

It's a standard laplink serial caple, with two connections on either end--1 x
9 pin and 1 x 25 pin.  One end has the 25 pin connector plugged into my
desktop box on comport 2, and the other end has the 9 pin connector plugged
into the laptop on comport 1.  (There is only a 9 pin connection available on
the lap top for a com port.  I run a PCMCIA card modem off com port 2 on the
lap top.  This arrangement worked fine on both machines when running them
under win95 using "Laplink" software.  An LPT port linkup also worked fine,
but I've got a few posts on that and will leave that for another project.)

>
> do you have gettys to contend with?
> are the com ports running at the same speed?

I'm not sure.  Is this something to do with the setserial or mgetty commands??

>
> what did you use for a terminal program ie. minicom,kermit,etc..

minicom.  I tested the linkup first by having mgetty -r /dev/ttyS0 38400 on
the laptop and using minicom on the desktop was able to get the Linux splash
screen and login prompt to come up in minicom.  login as root failed :-(  It
stopped the terminal on the laptop (something like Stopping /bin/bash).  But
at least they were talking to each other.

So I started up everything again as listed in my first posting, but no go.

Thaks for any help, digs.
Regards,
Paul.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 19:04:31 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the Mon, 03 May 1999 15:35:44 GMT...
..and Chris Mikkelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >It was the Sun, 2 May 1999 01:39:04 GMT...
> >..and PILCH Hartmut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> So, I think, RMS is not quite an anarchist communist, even in the software
> >> sense.
> >
> >He's neither anarchist nor communist as far as I can see. ESR is
> >anarchist. 
> 
> Anarcho-capitalist, from what I hear.  That's hardly "anarchist."

He has said to me "That's why I'm an anarchist." Look for my other
posting where I've quoted mails from ESR to me.

He calls himself an anarchist. So?

mawa
-- 
Now don't tell me that, when you've seen _Woyzeck_ and read _1984_,
_One_Flew_Over_The_Cuckoo's_Nest_ and _Wilt_, all in one week, you can
still write a story about a sane world!
                                                               -- mawa

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From: lalonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: download installation redhat-6.0
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 21:11:00 -0500

 This is what it says:
*Welcome to the Red Hat install (first stage, version 6.0 built Apr 6 1999
12:13:36
*Welcome to the Red Hat install (first stage, version 6.0 built Apr 6 1999
12:13:36
* 65 Keymaps are available
*using keymap us
*loading 9 keymap tables
*in loadDeviceDriver , ks=0, typName= ethernet
*pci probing for ethernet devices
*picked driver RealTek RTL 8129/8139
*running: /bin/insmod /modules/rtl8139.o
*configuring eth0 ip: 207.50.53.90 nm:255.255.255.0 nm: 207.50.53.0 bc:
207.50.53.255
*reverse name lookup worked
*configuring lo ip: 127.0.0.1 nm: 255.0.0.0 nm: 127.0.0.0 bc: 127.255.255.255

*transferring http://http:[PASSWORD]/RedHat/base/stage2.img to a fd
*transferring http://http:[PASSWORD]/RedHat/base/stage2.img to a fd
then ALT/F4 says
<4> hdb: BCD-40XH CD-ROM, ATAPI CDROM drive
<4> hdc: Quantum Fireball 1280A,ATA Disk drive
<4> id0 at 0x1f0-0xf7,0x3f6 on irq14
<4> id1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq15
<6> hda: WDC AC36400L,6149MB  w/256kb cache,CHS=784/255/63
<6> hdc: Quantum Fireball 1280A, 1222MB w/83kb cache, CHS=2484/16/63
<4> hdb: ATAPI 24X CD ROM Drive , 128kb cache
<6> Uniform CDROM driver Revision : 2.54
<6> Floppy drive(s) :fd0 is 1.44mb
<6> FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
<4> scsi : 0 hosts
<4> scsi :detected total.
<4> Partition check:
<4>hda: hda1, hda2, hda3, hda4
<4> hdc:[PTBL] [621/64/63] hdc1 hdc2
<5> RAMDISK :Compressed image found at block 0
<4>VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
<6> install uses obsolete /proc/pci interface
<6> rtl8139.c : v1.04 9/22/98 Donald Becker
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/rtl8139.html
<6> eth0 : RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xde00,Irq 11, 00.00.80.00.00.00.

<6> eth0 : MII transceiver found at address 0.
<6> device lo entered promiscuous mode
<6>device lo left promiscuous mode
P.S. I did say I have a cable modem if that helps, with TCAC. How do these
downloads know what your ISP username & password are also?
Steve Smoogen wrote:

> Hi in trying to figure this out furhter, could you send to the newsgroup
> what other errors might be occuring on ALT-F3/ALT-F4 (THe reason to send
> to newsgroup is that if we can solve it everyone knows about it, and I
> may not be the RH employee who has the final solution)
>
> --
>
> SJS


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello)
Crossposted-To: 
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of 
Communism (really)^
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 02:40:17 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, 04 May 1999 00:38:08 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> On Mon, 03 May 1999 22:44:03 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >In article <01be95af$00376b80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, FM wrote:
> >> >> Bill Bonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Is it wrong to keep software proprietary?
> >> >> 
> >> >> If openness of software is one's object, yes.
> >> >> GPL does protect what it's supposed to protect.
> >> >
> >> >   But you people ('you' being those who insist everything be
> >> >open) need to understand that Unix isn't only about free
> >> >software, no matter how much you think it is.  Linux probably is.
> >> >but it's not the general goal of Linux.
> >> >
> >> >   What real arguments are there against closed or proprietary
> >> >software anyway?  Real arguments that make sense and are not
> >> >GPL/RMS-induced.
> >> 
> >>    proprietary -> Microsoft or IBM or Oracle
> >
> >   Microsoft/IBM/Oracle aren't the only closed software companies.
> 
>       Got any good examples of power not corrupting absolutely?

   BSDI?

> 
> >
> >>    Free Software is just one of the more convenient 
> >>    and effective methods for ensuring that some 
> >>    arbitrary service is replacable thus allowing 
> >>    market choices to be relatively free of network
> >>    effects.
> >> 
> >>    This can benefit proprietary wares as well.
> >>    Which Oracle would you like? Which arch do
> >>    you want to run Applix or CivCTP on? Quick,
> >>    where do you turn when you've got new a new
> >>    arch and need a compiler fast (gnu/cygnus)?
> >> 
> >>    In the meantime, microsoft-wannabes are 
> >>    discouraged from accumulating too much
> >>    influence such that they could short 
> >>    ciruit 'the invisible hand'.
> >> 
> >>    Unix is very much about being open and about 
> >>    being fairly trivial to re-implement once a
> >>    cross-compiler is done.
> >
> >   It wasn't originally about that.
> 
>       It's been a LONG time since it hasn't been.
> 
> [deletia]
> -- 
>  
>     Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995.             |||
>          A little spite is more than justified.                 / | \
> 
>        
>                       In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com


-- 
Chris Costello
Field tested: Manufacturing doesn't have a test system.

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