Linux-Misc Digest #48, Volume #26 Mon, 16 Oct 00 08:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Jesper Krogh)
Re: RedHat 7.0 rpm's on RedHat 6.1? (Michael McConnell)
Downloading xchat ("Derrick King")
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Todd")
Re: Help with winmodem (M. Buchenrieder)
Compaq Presario 800 X server problem ("Paul Condran")
Re: AVI for LINUX (Michel Bardiaux)
CDR problems - help needed (John Bowker)
Re: Wanna lose warranty and pay $200 because my laptop has Linux? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Running a perl script as a cron job (Tony Lawrence)
Re: Memory fragmentation? (DeAnn)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: mp3 gain control utility for linux? (Fabrice Colin)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Telnet and Root (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (2:1)
O'Reilly's GNU Emacs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux Sys. Admin's Survival Guide ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Carl Fink)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Chris Sherlock)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Chris Sherlock)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Chris Sherlock)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jesper Krogh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:07:40 +0200
> > What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
>
> Staroffice.
> www.sun.com
Guess, the right url must be:
http://www.openoffice.org
--
./Jesper Krogh.
The Goal is world domination, no more, no less.
This means that your PC should run linux too.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael McConnell)
Subject: Re: RedHat 7.0 rpm's on RedHat 6.1?
Date: 16 Oct 2000 09:27:48 GMT
It's possible in theory, but I don't know of any rh7-compat-glibc RPMs out
there. It would need to be an RPM anyway to keep the dependencies in RPM
happy...
Anyway, the code should have little to no trouble compiling in a RH6.x
environment.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rafael) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Cant you just have to version of glibc at the same time? Is it possible?
>
>Rafael
>
>Michael McConnell wrote:
>
>> The binary ones will more than likely not work (different glibc
>> version). Your best bet is to get the source RPMs and recompile.
>>
>> -- Michael
>
>
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From: "Derrick King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Downloading xchat
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:09:49 +0100
I would like to get hold of XCHAT, which I believe is a good IRC program. I
have found some references to it via various seach engines, but...
1. There are several different packages (source and binaries, different
versions of Linux), how do I know which one to doanload. I am running
Mandrake V 7.1.
2. Once downloaded, how do I install it!
Derrick
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:18:14 +0800
"Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8sdiin$o7m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : Tell that to your boss when you hand in your report and it looks like
> : crap, all because you used Linux and he, along with the rest of the
> : world, is using Word.
>
>
> Professional publishers have been using Unix for decades.
Not any more.
Unix is falling by the wayside... I remember once when someone said
"professional CAD/CAM, PCB design software, etc. is a UNIX domain."
Not any more.
NT/2000 have basically taken up that slot.
This is a time that will be long remembered. It has seen the end of UNIX's
hold on design software, it will soon see the end of its hold on publishing
software.
hehe.
-Todd
>
>
> Joe
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Help with winmodem
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 06:59:15 GMT
[Note FollowUp-To: header]
rasteri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I have a advent laptop with a built in pci (I think) modem. I have
>reason to beleive that it is a winmodem. When I go to hyperterminal and
>type ati3 I get "Pctel 7.5504MS" as the reply. In the modems section of
>control panel it calls itself a "V.90 K56flex HSP PCI modem".
PCTel Winmodem.
>Is there
>any hope of getting this to run under linux? I have tried a few pctel
>drivers from http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
[...]
You'll have to precisely follow the instructions with the pctel.o
module, especially as far as using the matching modules and kernel
versions are concerned.
Michael
--
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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From: "Paul Condran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Compaq Presario 800 X server problem
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:16:15 +1000
I've got a Compaq Presario 800 notebook and i've installed redhat 6.1
It detected my ATI Rage Mobility-M card, but i'm having trouble selecting
the screen. If I choose the standard LCD 1024x768 i can get X running but
the screen is garbled.
I thinik this has something to do with the horizontal sync and the vertical
refresh rate.
The values in the XF86Config file are:
HorizSync 31.5-48
VerticalRefresh 60
I don't have this info for the screen (it didn't come with the notebook) and
i've tried emailing compaq but haven't got an answer. I've searched all
over the net!!!
Does anyone know of a utility that will be able to detect this. Is there a
way i can find out in Win98 (regedit maybe)? Or does anyone have linux
running on the same notebook?
thanks.
paul
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From: Michel Bardiaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AVI for LINUX
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:24:57 GMT
Bill Clinton wrote:
>
> I like Main Actor. I think I got it from linuxberg.com.
>
> HTH,
>
> Mike Christenson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Zoran P." wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > who knows a AVI-Player for SuSE-Linux ??
> >
> > xdvplay don't work...
> >
> > Thanx for help !
> > -Zoran-
xanim will play Indeo 3, 4 and 5; MainActor does not support these on
Linux. IIRC there is currently *no* player available on Linux that
supports I263, IMC, or MP34 (except maybe MS MediaPlayer under WINE).
There is something that supports DIVX but I seem to have lost the
bookmark!
Greetings.
--
Michel Bardiaux
Peaktime Belgium S.A. Rue Margot, 37 B-1457 Nil St Vincent
Tel : +32 10 65.44.15 Fax : +32 10 65.44.10
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From: John Bowker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CDR problems - help needed
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:28:09 +1000
I'm new to linux, and new to writing CDs, so I was probably asking for
trouble, but I'd really appreciate any suggestions as to what I should
try next...
I'm running RH6.2 on kernel 2.2.16-3. My machine has an internal SCSI
Ricoh RW7060S. The SCSI card is an NCR 810. I've been trying to burn
Kodak Ultima CDRs.
I've followed the CD-Writing HOW-TO to the letter (writing about 150M
of iso9660 data - I can mount the image and see it properly). I can
see that stuff's been written to the CD. But when I try to read it, it
won't mount, giving me a 'Wrong Media Type' message. It won't load on
a Windows 98 machine, either.
I notice a few things that may or may not be relevant : I really don't
know what to try next...
Firstly, at boot time, the SCSI card driver reports :
ncr53c810-a-0-<0,*>: device did not report SYNC.
I guess this might be because there's no CD in there when I boot.
Secondly, the HOWTO refers to an sr module, but cdrecord -scanbus
seems not to care, and reports my device correctly. I've used insmod
and lsmod to try to find this module, but it seems to be non-existent.
Thirdly, cdrecord goes through its data-writing phase error-free, but
I get an error when it gets to the fixating stage. The error is always
(5 attempts so far, presumably 5 coasters)
cdrecord Inout/output error close track/session : scsi sendcmd :
retryable error
CDB:...
Status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes:...
Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0
Sense Code 0x04 Qual 0x01 (logical unit is in process of becoming
ready)...
Sense Flags:Blk 0 (not valid)
After the error, though, cdrecords that fixating took (say) 13seconds,
with a 480 second timeout.
Is my kernel wrong? Is there something wrong wth my SCSI setup? Is my
burner stuffed? Am I using crummy CDRs?
Help!
John
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wanna lose warranty and pay $200 because my laptop has Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 06:38:19 -0400
YY Lee wrote:
> So I called again Toshiba to finalize shipment for servicing of my Toshiba Tecra. I
> was told if they find any other OS than what it came with it I'll loss the warranty
> and be charged $200 for repair. That is more clear warning that I was originally
> told. Not only I will whack MBR this time but will really empty the contents of
> /dev/hda5 while /dev/hda1 will only have solely a Windows 98!
Makes one wonder how this helps sell Toshiba machines, does it not? Who would buy one
with this $200/event non-Microsoft surcharge? Does Microsoft own a large interest in
Toshiba? I wonder if the Justice Department considered this as part of their evidence
against Microsoft. 8-(
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 6:35am up 6 days, 12:13, 2 users, load average: 2.07, 2.12, 2.09
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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang,perl.misc
Subject: Re: Running a perl script as a cron job
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 06:43:45 -0400
Julian Cook/Sherab Gyatso wrote:
> What I would like to do is to set this PERL script as a cron job to
> do it's processing and FTPing every 15 minutes.
OK. So your cron entry says:
0,15,30,45 * * * * /usr/local/bin/yourftp >/dev/null 2>&1
See also http://pcunix.com/Unixart/cron.html and of course the
man pages on your own system.
> Does anyone have any idea how I can accomplish this? I am not a
> Linux whiz (at least not yet) and this seems to be my one big hang up.
> I suppose I could create this script to constantly run but that seems
> like a big drain on resources.
Not necessarily. If it does a "sleep 900" it isn't using any cpu
time, and whatever memory it uses can be paged out if it is
needed. But cronning it is fine.
--
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests,
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DeAnn )
Subject: Re: Memory fragmentation?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:51:35 GMT
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:14:15 -0500, Jem Berkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Does memory fragment in linux with repeated allocations/deallocations?
>
>I remember somebody telling me that Windows NT uses memory management
>like linux, but from what I recall my NT box would slowly become
>sluggish (over several weeks). Since people seem to run linux servers
>for well over a year without rebooting, I'm curious about whether linux
>has some sort of auto memory defragmentation.
Older versions of NT and Win9x had a lot of memory leaks
that would degrade performance over a short period of time (hours to
days). I do not know if Win2000 is still vulnerable to this. I
suspect it is since I've heard they still recommend continual
scheduled reboots.
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 06:49:52 -0400
Jan Schaumann wrote (in part):
> use whatever you think does the job best for you. If you nedd 100%
> MS-Word conformance, you will need MS-WORD, that's the sad truth. But if
> you need 100% efficiency, well, that's a completely different story.
The trouble is, 100% conformance with which version of MS-WORD? They do not
seem to conform with one another. People with one version often have trouble
reading documents written by another. Usually, the latest and greatest can
read older versions, but not vice-versa, so if anyone uses a version newer
than the others in a community, all the rest must upgrade. That can be an
intolerable expense. The recent implementation of "fast save" (I think it is
called), and distributing MS-Word with that turned on by default, is a
particularly odious example.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 6:45am up 6 days, 12:23, 2 users, load average: 2.03, 2.13, 2.11
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From: Fabrice Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mp3 gain control utility for linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:49:25 +0100
Hi John,
I think I saw on Freshmeat.net an XMMS plugin that claims being able
to adjust the sound level automatically. I don't remember the name but
you can probably find it if you search for 'XMMS'.
Good luck.
Fabrice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone know of a utility that can adjust the sound levels in an
> existing mp3 file without re-encoding? I've got a collection of mp3
> files that are of differing sound levels that I stream to my box at work
> and I find I'm constantly fiddling with the volume control. There are
> apparently utilities of this sort for MS-DOS (eg. mp3amp from
> the mpxutils), but I have not found one for Linux yet.
>
> Before anyone starts flaming, yes I do have the CDs and I could
> re-encode, but the prospect is not appealing as my system is only 233Mhz
> and I have quite a few files that I would like to adjust.
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 06:55:47 -0400
jazz wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean-David Beyer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the Linux world that will 100 percent
> > > emulate MSOffice. Nothing at all.
> > >
> > > THe Linux toys are a joke. Try them for yourself and see how well your
> > > presentations translate.
> >
> > I find Applixware pretty good substitutes for Microsoft Word and
> > Microsoft Excel. They do everything I need (I am not a Microsoft Office
> > power user and never was), including importing Word and Excel documents.
> > They also have presents, that supposedly does the stuff Powerpoint does,
> > but I have not tried it.
>
> Thanks. Where can I find Applixware?
>
> Jim
http://www.vistasource.com/products and, especially,
http://www.vistasource.com/products/axware (It is not free; I am running
version 5.00)
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 6:50am up 6 days, 12:28, 2 users, load average: 2.14, 2.14, 2.10
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet and Root
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 07:02:21 -0400
Markus B�hmer wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > hi everyone
> > Is it possible to logon to Redhat 6.2 Linux server via telent or remote
> > login (rlogin) ?
> > If so How?
> > I tried as a root , but i denied the access.
> > thanks in advance
> > newlinx
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
> By default, telnet as root is not allowed, due to security reasons.
> So telnet as a normal user and the "su" to root.
You could do that, but a sniffer would then grab your root password, as well
as your normal user's password. You are better off using ssh instead of
telnet. In fact, you are better off disabling telnet altogether if you
possibly can.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 7:00am up 6 days, 12:38, 2 users, load average: 2.12, 2.11, 2.09
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:12:14 +0100
Jesper Krogh wrote:
>
> > > What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
> >
> > Staroffice.
> > www.sun.com
>
> Guess, the right url must be:
> http://www.openoffice.org
D'OH. it used to be at SUN.
-Ed
>
> --
> ./Jesper Krogh.
> The Goal is world domination, no more, no less.
> This means that your PC should run linux too.
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: O'Reilly's GNU Emacs
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:06:57 GMT
Hi,
I've put O'Reilly's GNU Emacs on Ebay. It's in excellent condition.
If anybody is interested...
Matt.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Sys. Admin's Survival Guide
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:11:05 GMT
I've put Timothy Parker's Linux system administrator's survival guide
on Ebay (SAMS publishing). It's in excellent condition.
Matt.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 16 Oct 2000 11:03:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:11:06 -0400 jazz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Erp...I checked it out and am sorry I didn't make clear I'm currently a
>Mac/Unix guy thinking about dumping my Mac for Linux (the Unix is our
>supercomputer, which I am not allowed to take home).
Well, if you run Linux on your Mac, you could use Mac-on-Linux to run
MacOS inside Linux natively, and run any Mac software you need
side-by-side with Linux stuff.
See <http://www.ibrium.se/linux/mac_on_linux.html>.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:52:23 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Have you ever used it?
Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> You have to be kidding?
>
> Latex?
>
> barrrrrrrrrrrrrrffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
>
> claire
>
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:10:05 +0400, "Jan Schaumann"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> I really need a powerful word processor with templates, styles, etc.
> >>
> >
> >Learn LaTeX (or LyX) - you'll be much more efficient in no time.
> >
> >> What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
> >
> >I use gnumeric for spreadsheets.
> >If you need something like powerpoint... *shrug*.
> >But with LaTeX you canproduce some nice slides...
> >
> >
> >Cheers,
> >-Jan
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:54:58 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
So you admit you are a troll? Gee...
Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> You must be a moron.
>
> Usually only takes one post..
>
> Cheers!
>
> claire
>
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:53:24 +0400, "Jan Schaumann"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hmmm, took me three posts to realize you're a troll, I'm getting old.
> >
> >*plonk*
> >
> >
> >Cheers,
> >-Jan
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:56:34 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
What about saving your document in rtf format? Surely this way all
(good) WPs will render it properly.
Chris
Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:44:43 -0400, jazz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >All I ask for is the ability to import Star Office files into Word. Possible?
>
> Yes, it is possible. However, be aware that there are a few conversion issues.
> In general, documents will be imported/exported properly, but I've found that
> sometimes tables and other odds-and-ends don't come out 100% correct.
>
> You should run StarOffice and create a few test documents that use the features
> you will be using. Swap between SO and Word and see what happens. Make sure
> that you create the original test documents in both SO and Word and do two
> separate test.
>
> Another possibility is to use HTML for true portability, but most publishing
> houses will not support that.
>
> --
> Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
> Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
> - http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
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