Linux-Misc Digest #48, Volume #25                 Wed, 5 Jul 00 13:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Apache ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Web server + cache (Jon Thackray)
  [Q]: How to transfer file from SGI O2 to PC Linux Mandrake 7 ? (Farget Vincent)
  Re: Student learning Java (aflinsch)
  Re: Corel PhotoPaint (Grant Edwards)
  Re: newsreader for Linux? (Grant Edwards)
  Terminal last line refresh since slak 7 ("Keith Whyte")
  Re: <newbie>Shell script? change filenames in a directory?</newbie> (Vilmos Soti)
  Rebuilding rpm database (Praedor Tempus)
  Re: newsreader for Linux? (Kent Perrier)
  Re: Local News Server (leafnode/INN) (John Hasler)
  Re: Can't open serial com2 for modem on RedHat 6.0 (M. Buchenrieder)
  Error 2 during Make Modules ("James C Causey Jr")
  Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. (Thomas Nelson)
  Tool to generate network errors (Kevin Meegan)
  Re: 1-floppy distrib with ntfs support ? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: hardware questions (Claude Vaillancourt)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Apache
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 15:06:09 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:41:32 -0500, Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I had Apache running the other day.  I turned off my computer and
when I
> >came back to it today, I couldn't get Apache to load.  I tried using
the
> >"/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start" script.  I don't get any
errors, but
> >when I use "/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl status", it shows that it
is not
> >running (I forget the exact message).  What could have changed?  I am
using
> >php4 and mysql if that helps or makes a difference.  BTW, I also
tried
> >executing the httpd file.  Again, no errors echo to screen, it just
doesn't
> >run.
>
> Did /var/log/messages or the apache logs tell you anything?  Did you
have
> another apache package installed (other than the one you compiled
> yourself) that might be starting automatically.  Check /etc/inetd.conf
to
> make sure it is commented out there.  Maybe you changed a conf setting
> last time that broke it, but failed to restart it and didn't realize
it.
>
> When I compiled it myself long ago, I know that the conf files that
came
> with apache source used to look for some things in /usr/local/httpd.
If
> that is still the case, maybe 'ln -s /usr/local/apache
/usr/local/httpd'
> would help.
>
> --
> David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
>


Just wanted to let you know that you were right about the httpd.conf
file.  I tried to use an old httpd.conf file and had forgotten about
it.  I copied the file generated by this compile and it works fine.
THANKS


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: jon/*spambegone*[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Thackray)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.unix.admin,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Web server + cache
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 15:30:46 GMT

> What will the best between a Xeon 700 with 512 kb of cache and a Xeon
> 700 with 2 MB of cache ?
>
> Does cache help a webserver ??? Does it need more than 512 KB ?

Processor speed isn't usually the limiting factor in web serving.
RAM, disk and network speed are more important. So no, cache won't
make any difference. There are far more important factors, the
webserver you use, or the speed of the API you're using, if you're
not just serving static files, see http://support.zeus.com/docs/)

Follow-ups set: please don't cross post to such a large number
of groups in future.

Jon.

-- 
Jonathan Thackray                            Tel: +44 1223 525000
Software Engineer                            Fax: +44 1223 525100
Zeus Technology                              http://www.zeus.com/
Newton House, Cambridge Business Park, Cambridge CB4 OWZ, England

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From: Farget Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: [Q]: How to transfer file from SGI O2 to PC Linux Mandrake 7 ?
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:32:06 +0200

Hi,

A friend of mine own an O2 Silicon Graphics computer (with an ethernet
adaptater) running under IRIX 6.5 OS.
I have a PC PII (with an ethernet adaptater) running under Windows98 OR
Linux Mandrake 7.
My friend have used is O2 to digitize some video analog signal. As he
doesn�t have an SCSI CD-R writer, we want to transfer this mpeg file to
my PC to burn a Video CD.
So my question is :
As I know that I can connect the two computer using a (cross) RJ45
ethernet cable, what must I use (protocol, software,�.) on the both
computer to simply do this transfer ?

Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards.
-
Mr FARGET Vincent
E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject: Re: Student learning Java
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 11:19:06 -0500

2Funky wrote:
> 
> Hi folks, appreciate any help given.
> 
> I'm using Linux and would appreciate if anyone can recommend some Java
> IDE tools for this platform. I am trying to develop a Java application
> for my course. I really can't afford to a few thousand dollars for some
> of these tools. I have been working with Sun's compiler and am getting

Try IBM's Visual Age for Java, free if you join the developers network
(they will even mail you the CD).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Corel PhotoPaint
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 15:46:48 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rainer Krienke wrote:

>>> Corel is full of shit when it claims this is a Linux app. It's
>>> just the windows version running under wine.
>> 
>>> Good enough reason to avoid all Corel apps.
>> 
>> Apart from wordperfect 8, of course.
>
>Well it is a windows app but it is running under the great
>linux project wine.

No, it isn't.  WP8 is a written-from-scratch Unix application.

AFAIK, the new Corel Office 2000 for Linux is built from the
same source tree as the Win32 version and linked with the
winelib UI libraries.

But, this is different from it being an actual Win32 app
running under wine.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Send your questions
                                  at               to "ASK ZIPPY", Box 40474,
                               visi.com            San Francisco, CA 94140,
                                                   USA

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: newsreader for Linux?
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 15:49:29 GMT

In article <ATq85.1137$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Any reason why folks don't use netscape -mail? 

It's huge, and slow, and buggy, and I can't stand the user-interface.

>I like it because it handles html, and pop3 mail checking is easier.

I don't use pop3, nor do I generally read html mail.

>Actually I like a couple of the mua's mentioned, but they just
>seem so shareware-ish in their interface, and they don't handle
>html!

I don't like html in e-mail, so that's not a big priority for me.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Yow! I want to mail
                                  at               a bronzed artichoke to
                               visi.com            Nicaragua!

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Reply-To: "Keith Whyte" <keithwhyte[nospam]@hotmail.com>
From: "Keith Whyte" <keithwhyte[nospam]@hotmail.com>
Subject: Terminal last line refresh since slak 7
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:59:33 -0700

SUBJECT MATTER:

 Last (bottom) line of the terminal is not refreshing when scrolling the
terminal since upgrade to Slackware 7

Hi fellow linux users
I've searched the web and the archives on deja.com and I just cannot believe
that I am
the only one who has this problem.

It only seems to occur when coming in on a ptty, although I did have a few
complete console lockups
when viewing (as it happens) one of the man pages for X - always at the same
place in the page, just scrolling down, then BANG! complete lock-up.

Has anyone else noticed the last line of their terminal not clearing
properly when scrolling (with joe,less,pine,etc)
It's got to be a bug in the terminal definitions, no? My telnet claims to be
vt100  (i.e. TERM=vt100.)

Thanks,

Keith.

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Subject: Re: <newbie>Shell script? change filenames in a directory?</newbie>
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:02:15 GMT

Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I've got a bunch of files in a directory and I need to change the case of
>> those which begin with an uppercase 'M' to a lowercase 'm'.
> 
> for i in M*; do mv $i $(echo $i | tr M m); done

The problem is that it will change not only the initial M's but also
any subsequent M's in the filename.

Vilmos

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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rebuilding rpm database
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:12:37 -0600

OK, in trying to fix a major problem I have been having with
rpm on my Mandrake 7.1 system, I have lost the packages.rpm 
database file that lists all the packages installed on my
system.  

Is there a method for regenerating packages.rpm?  I have
tried "rpm --rebuilddb" but this doesn't work.  It sits
there for a while, APPARENTLY doing something, but in the
end, no database is generated/regenerated.  

Anyone?  Is there a way short of reinstalling everything?

On a side note, this whole thing developed from an absolute
inability to install any form or the app, rpmfind.  I cannot
install and use the binary rpms, I cannot rebuild the src.rpms,
I cannot compile the src tarballs.  I have not been able to use
the binary tarballs.  What I get when trying to compile is
a config error indicating a missing function in librpm.so or
librpm.a (it doesn't specify which).  I have tried reinstalling
rpm, both older and latest versions and all in between.  Nothing
corrects this problem.  

If I try to install the binary rpm, I ALWAYS get a segfault/core
dump.  I also get this if I try to install/rebuild the rpmfind src
rpm.  I have tried with rpmfind-1.1 thru 1.5, but can't get it
to install or build.  I have deleted the librpm.so and librpm.a
files (and all other librpm.* files in /usr/lib) and then reinstalled
rpm, rpm-devel,rpm-tools, rpm-python, the works.  The problem
remains.  When I would run "rpm -q rpmfind" I would be told that
rpmfind-1.4 was installed, yet when I would look for it on my system,
it was nowhere.  I tried removing the rpm (rpm -e rpmfind) but this
segfaults/core dumps too.  

Anyone have any aid for me?  How to recreate a totally gone packages.rpm
database and correct this problem?

praedor

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From: Kent Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newsreader for Linux?
Date: 05 Jul 2000 11:18:30 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Is there a newsreader available for Linux? 

Yes.

Kent
-- 
"I can't get over the fact that Hillary Clinton's greatest public feat
was to help her husband lie to the rest of us." 

--Historian, and Ms. Rodham-Clinton's biographer, Joyce Milton.

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Local News Server (leafnode/INN)
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:35:30 GMT

Fabian Gebhardt writes:
> I want to build up a local news server, which gets all possible News on
> connect.

You do realize, do you not, that "all possible News" means tens of
thousands of newsgroups?  You better have a big pipe and a lot of fast
disk.

I think that you really just want to get all the groups that your users
regularly read.

> I heard leafnode is good for this. Or better INN? 

Leafnode is good for a small number of groups, cnews for a moderate number,
and INN for a large number.

> How can I do this?

Install the package and read the docs, or hire a consultant to set it up
for you.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Can't open serial com2 for modem on RedHat 6.0
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:07:52 GMT

"Mark M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I have set up mincom to use /dev/ttys1 (ie: com2). When I run minicom it
>says "Minicom: Cannot open /dev/ttys1: Input/Output error".

[...]

There is no /dev/ttys1. There is, however, a /dev/ttyS1 .

Michael

-- 
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
    Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.

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From: "James C Causey Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config,redhat.general,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Error 2 during Make Modules
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:40:17 -0700
Reply-To: "James C Causey Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have done a fresh install of RedHat 6.0 and have tried a recompile of the
kernel "as is".  My new bzImage is created just fine.  However, Make Modules
fails during a net module, and bails with a Make [Error 2] and a description
of the module in question.  Sure enough, the new kernel locks up during the
Module Dependency load during bootup.

What on earth am I doing wrong?  I have not had this issue with Corel or
Storm Linux.  Just to reiterate, this is not a kernel upgrade, just a
recompile of what is installed with the full package.

Thanks for any ideas,
James Causey Jr



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From: Thomas Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.turbolinux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:43:04 -0400

Linux does have rough edges on it still and you make several valid points, but I
really don't understand why many people think computers should not need skill
and knowledge to operate.  Tuning a car, sailing a ship, wiring a house, all
require skill and knowledge to perform properly.  Why are computers and OSes
(Linux/Windows/BeOS/Unix, etc) in a different category? If you don't want to
know about the engine of your car, take it to a mechanic. If you just want to do
canned activties (OfficeSuite stuff), buy a pre-installed system (Windows,
Linux, whatever) so you don't have to deal with partitioning, etc.  In short, if
you're going to dig under the hood, your going to scrape you knuckles now and
then, but you can make it purrr. As I understand it, the whole point of linux is
control over your environment.  That requires skill and knowledge.

Thomas Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jeffrey Gudmann wrote:

> Mike
>
> To use a quaint Australian expression -  GUTZ EFFORT !!!
>
> Your comments and suggestions make a lotta sense IMHO.
> Particularly like the idea about the TEST MODE.
>
> I have been frigging round with linux for about 2 years now
> and can sorta "find my way round".  I would hate to think what would
> happen to some poor sod who was only use to Win98 and got a copy
> of a linux distro on a computer magazine, installed it, mistakenly chose
> during the set up to format hda5 (containing all his/her important data
> or backups) cos it seemed like a good thing to do) and then opted
> to install the boot loader (lilo or worse still grub) to the MBR. Later
> after
> playing around with Linux decided to scrub the linux partition and wondered
> what had happened to the Win98 boot-up.
>
> This sort of scenario would really give Linux a BAD NAME.
>
> Call me a pedantic a*&#hole, but I like things that work, and work properly.
> I have lost count on the number of Linux distros I've tried.
> You try another coz the one you're using is missing a certain feature, then
> you find another that has it but is missing something else and the vicious
> circle
> begins - trying to find that elusive perfect Linux Distro!!
> Then you settle on a Distro that's acceptable and subsequently make the
> fatal error -  upgrading or getting hold of the next version !!!!  And you
> find out that things have changed in the next version (like the boot
> loader is grub and grub alone now) or the latest version has been
> rushed out and is as buggy as hell.
>
> Don't get me wrong - I luuv Linux - but, if Linux is going to succeed in
> popularity,
> then I believe that the Distro producers should get their act together and
> address
> amongst other things the points you raise in your commentary.
>
> Ah, it feels better now that I've got that off my chest.
>
> Anyway, enjoyed reading your discertation.  When can we expect WarnerLinux
> !!!!
>
> Jeff
>
> PS  Who is Tatanya - (in best Homer Simpson voice) hhmmmmmmmmmm Tatanya
>        Oops, sorry - hope she's not your wife/partner - with a comment like
> that !!!
>
> Mike Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > TurboShitzu is a mess. Have any of you installed a minumum software set
> > and then gone in and tried to do the REAL install using turbopkg? Have
> > you noticed that
> >
> > 1. There is no way to select EVERYTHING? That you have to go down the
> > entire f--king list, checking the packages one at a time? Have you
> > noticed that turbopkg erupts with a segmentation violation wile trying
> > to install one of the network packages? EVERY TIME IN THE SAME PLACE?
> >
> > At least Mandrake has an EVERYTHING option on *its* package installer.
> > Guess I'm not the only one that things its a NO-BRAINER.
> >
> > 2. Have you noticed that if you select writing the boot loader to the
> > root partition that you have NO SUBSEQUENT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A BOOT
> > FLOPPY? Boy, what a bunch of friggin geniuses.
> >
> > About the only good thing I can say about TurboShitzu is that it doesn't
> > hose down any other partitions. Try the "rain" release of Storm--the one
> > given away in the June issue of Linux Magazine ("Storm" is Sudanese for
> > "shitzu"--honest). Yea, notice how the place you end up writing the boot
> > loader is buried in a menu option rather than being out front where it
> > should be. Notice how, even if you write the boot loader to the root
> > partition, it hoses the MBR on C:  anyway. Thank god that, compared with
> > *these* wankers, I *AM* a bloody genius, so I was able to get the MBR
> > back without reinstalling NT. Thank god for *them* that is, because I'm
> > quite capable of making a special trip right to their office door where
> > I would show them that it is in the long-term interest of their personal
> > physical well being that they pull their little pin heads out of their
> > pukey little asses. Now where was I?
> >
> > Now I will give you the short course on how a CORRECT installation
> > architecture should proceed.
> >
> > To begin with,
> >
> > - the initial installation is NOT the place to be installing monster
> > software packages. How many of you have loaded down the platter with a
> > gig of software only to find out that you can't boot? The *initial*
> > installation should be concerned with ONE THING ONLY: creating
> > partitions, setting up recovery mechanisms, and installing a bare-bones
> > bootable system. THEN, when you find that everything is copasetic, and
> > you've actually logged-in and are grinning from pie-hole to ass-hole,
> > NOW start installing the platter-busting mega-system. Fawk. Do I have to
> > do everything myself? Apparently.
> >
> > - Furthermore, the installation should have a TEST MODE that allows you
> > to simply create partitions and do a pseudo-boot into the root where you
> > would sit and be able to do nothing but reboot. After finding that, yes,
> > Margaret, I can create partitions and boot into them using whatever boot
> > system I HAVE ALREADY SELECTED, then and only then would the
> > installation continue. In essence, the Installation would not be
> > SEQUENTIAL; it would be DIRECT-ACCESS and have enough intelligence to
> > know what has to be done before what.
> >
> > - The installation should be able to restore the system to the state it
> > was in just before the moment of installation. GUARANTEED. Installing a
> > linux system should be COMPLETELY WITHOUT RISK. Period f--king end.
> >
> > -- If you can't give a WRITTEN GUARANTEE that your distro will NOT
> > NEGATIVELY IMPACT the current state of your box, then get out of the
> > game. You got no business in it. You're a piss-ant. You can't run with
> > the Big Dogs. You're a Tech Shitzu. Get off my leg.
> >
> > Mike
> > --
> > http://www.bigfoot.com/~warnerm




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Meegan)
Subject: Tool to generate network errors
Date: 5 Jul 2000 16:39:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have been looking for a tool which could generate ethernet
packets with errors (overruns, runts, CRC errors). Is there
a program for linux that can do this?



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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1-floppy distrib with ntfs support ?
Date: 05 Jul 2000 12:33:03 -0400

Ashitaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>     I'm looking for a one-floppy distrib with ide hd support and also
> ntfs format support. Any suggestions ?

<URL:http://www.toms.net/rb/>

unfortunately no linux kernel has much of ntfs support.  reading maybe
works.  writing to w2k ntfs is severly broken.

-- 
johan kullstam l72t00052

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From: Claude Vaillancourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hardware questions
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:47:05 -0400



Ben Walker wrote:
> 
> I am presently designing a relatively high end Linux system, and I have some
> questions about various hardware support.
> 
> Most of my hardware I have used before and know it's supported, but some I
> have not been able to find if it's supported or not.
> 
> I am leaning toward a Asus K7V Athlon motherboard which has support for
> UDMA 66.  Is UDMA 66 support in 2.2 kernels, or do I need to use a 2.4
> pre release kernel?  I would like to use the full capabilities of my
> UDMA 66 drives.
> 
> I also see that UDMA 100 is out now.  Does Linux support or have plans to
> support this?  The only motherboards I have seen so far that have UDMA 100
> are Abit.  I have never used any Abit boards.  What is the quality of Abit
> boards?
> 
> I would like to use a newer Soundblaster card, either a PCI 512 or
> Soundblaster Live!.  Neither Soundblaster's site nor opensound.com says
> there is currently support for either of these cards.  Has anybody been
> able to use either of these cards under Linux successfully?
> 

I just bought a SoundBlaster Live! (PCI) and installed Mandrake 7.0 on
my system
and it was recognized perfectly, and it works fine too. Wasn't that easy
with my previous ISA SB compatible card.

> I am planning to buy a Matrox G400 video adapter.  This comes in single and
> dual head models.  With the dual head, 2 monitors can be used in a split
> screen fashion.  I really don't have a need for this, but am curious if
> XFree86 supports or plans to support this?
> 
> Thanks in advance.

-- 
===========================
C. Vaillancourt eng.
CAE Electronics Ltd.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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