Linux-Misc Digest #48, Volume #28 Wed, 6 Jun 01 21:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: The bare minumum. ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: seeking Windows & Linux compatible email client ("Mark Watson")
Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments? (Robert Heller)
Re: **help** hosed /var partition (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Laptop umruesten (Raj Rijhwani)
Re: The bare minumum. (Stephen Hui)
Re: The bare minumum. ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Splitting a ext2 partition. ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Linux box hang every week (George Dau)
Re: AC'97 sound chips on board - no sound in RedHat 7.0 ("Bill Piety")
Re: The bare minumum. (John Thompson)
Major Problem with tar, Red Hat 7.1 and 6.2 (Jim)
Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments? (Carl Fink)
Re: LG and Goldstar CDRs & Audio - Here's how... (Bill Unruh)
EXT2 reference (James M Banoczi)
cdrecord and Plextor drive ("ThanhVu Nguyen")
New Server: Hardware under Linux (Robert Ullman)
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The bare minumum.
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:27:25 -0600
> Hi. What is the bare minumum of software needed for linux to boot to
bash.
> I am going to install linux on a computer with very little hardisk space
> (about 100 MB). Is it possible? I don't think Redhat installer will
> install the bare minimum, so I need to do it myself. I know this will
be a
> little complicating (since I'm not a linux expert), so is there any
website
> you know of that will give some light on what I'm trying to do? Thanks
in
> advance.
Try lfs.sourceforge.net .
steve
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From: "Mark Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: seeking Windows & Linux compatible email client
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:40:51 GMT
I went through this a few months ago, playing with Mozilla, Pine,
etc.
Here is what works best for me (my ISP earthlink.net does not
support IMAP):
I configure my outlook express under W2000 and Mozilla email
client under Debian GNU/Linux to "leave mail on POP server".
I do end up downloading it twice - once for each OS - , and
every once in a while, I delete everything on the email server (like
once a week - takes a minute or two). Both email clients are
smart enough to never download the same email twice so I get one
complete copy in both operating systems.
This gets me complete copies of received email under both
W2000 and Linux, so I am happy.
-Mark
--Mark Watson
--Java consulting, Open Source and Content: www.markwatson.com
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments?
Date: 6 Jun 2001 23:00:49 GMT
kj0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on 6 Jun 2001 17:05:45 -0400, wrote :
k> I work exclusively on Unix/Linux, but I need to send some important
k> documents in Microsoft Word format as e-mail attachments, to
k> recipients who work exclusively on MS Windows. This is something I
k> will have to do a lot of in the coming month, so I am trying to find a
k> solution that I can implement from within Linux.
k>
k> I rarely need to send attachments with my e-mail, and when I do I just
k> use the attachment feature in my mail reader (Pine). I just learned,
k> however, that MS Windows mail readers (or at least some of them)
k> receive the attachment as "gibberish" appended at the end of the
k> e-mail's text, instead of appearing as a clickable link to bring it
k> up in MS Word.
k>
k> Is there a way within Linux to attach these word documents to my
k> e-mail so that the Windows-bound recipient has no difficulty reading
k> them?
I use netscape to send attachments (my mailer of choice does not do
attachment). It *seems* to work.
k>
k> Many thanks!!!
k>
k> KJ
k>
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: **help** hosed /var partition
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:07:37 GMT
In article <9flbki$dlu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, max barwell wrote:
>I backed and restored /var but i didn't preserve the correct permissions,
>things are of course acting strangely, where can i get a list of what
>they're meant to be, or how can i fix it? A reinstall on this box is not
>an option.
[-]
I doubt you can get a list since it depends and sometimes on the
actual software package. Some examples ...
/var root.root 0755
/var/mail root.root 1777
/var/run root.root 1777
/var/log root.root 1777
/var/tmp root.root 1777
/var/spool root.root 0755
/var/spool/mail root.root 0755
/var/cache root.root 0755
/var/cache/man adm.man 0755
/var/spool/LPD daemon.daemon 0700
/var/cache/httpd/juergen juergen.other 0700
...
1777 means while everyone can do everything only the owner of a file
can remove it. Makes sense e.g. in /var/tmp or /var/mail. It's not
a problem for /var/mail since here only the owner can read or write
files here.
/var/spool/LPD is for my printer daemon, running as daemon.daemon
and no need for anything or anyone else to read or write there.
/var/cache/httpd/juergen is my personal browser cache, so only I'm
allowed to do anything there.
Say you may start with opening all up and then closing things down
step by step.
Alternatively tell which distribution you've got and which version,
as some kind sould could just send you the output of a ...
find /var -type d -exec ls -ld {} \;
... since it'd be quite easy to feed this into a script.
I'm not using a distribution though, sorry 8-)
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raj Rijhwani)
Subject: Re: Laptop umruesten
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:44:18 +0100 (BST)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wednesday, in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Erik Veenstra" wrote:
> > Also, fuer eine etwas ausfuehrlichere Antwort waere ich sehr dankbar.
> Auf englisch, bitte...
Why should he? It's an international newsgroup is it not?
--
Raj Rijhwani (umtsb5/16) | This is the voice of the Mysterons...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ... We know that you can hear us Earthmen
http://www.rijhwani.org/raj/ | "Lieutenant Green: Launch all Angels!"
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From: Stephen Hui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The bare minumum.
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:18:07 GMT
Joel wrote:
>
> Hi. What is the bare minumum of software needed for linux to boot to bash.
> I am going to install linux on a computer with very little hardisk space
> (about 100 MB). Is it possible? I don't think Redhat installer will
> install the bare minimum, so I need to do it myself. I know this will be a
> little complicating (since I'm not a linux expert), so is there any website
> you know of that will give some light on what I'm trying to do? Thanks in
> advance.
Also look at http://www.linux.org/dist/english.html
There are some distributions aimed directly at goals like fitting onto
small hard disks.
If you're really really ambitious, you could build your own
micro-distro. :oP
Stephen.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The bare minumum.
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:14:56 +0200
Joel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi. What is the bare minumum of software needed for linux to boot to bash.
If bash is compiled statically, then name it as /bin/sh and that will
do the trick. You'll also need /dev/console and a few more /dev files,
but nothing else.
> I am going to install linux on a computer with very little hardisk space
> (about 100 MB). Is it possible? I don't think Redhat installer will
Little! Are you crazy? That is about 20 times the minimum you could get
away with! You could do a minimal install of major distros such as
debian or slackware in half that size, so I don't think you have any
worries :-).
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Splitting a ext2 partition.
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:12:02 +0200
Joel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for your idea, but how exactly can I do [backup]? using tar? Then,
Yes, or any other backup software.
> after I reorganize the partitions, how can I untar the files again? I do
Using tar.
> have a windows partition on that computer, soI can put the .tar file there
> while I repartition the filesystem. How would you do this?
Using tar. I recommend you compress the tar archive! It'll take up far
less space. See the tar man page (aka "any book on unix") for suitable
switches. Or look at an appropriate howto - the Partituon HOWTO springs
to mind.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Dau)
Subject: Re: Linux box hang every week
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:42:41 GMT
Frank Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
]Hi, folks,
]
]We have a Compaq PC running Debian Linux with Kernal 2.0.38. It is a
]Pentium Box with 16MB RAM. This box is simply running two scripts which
]dial out to test some NAS. One Rocketmodem and one RocketmodemII are
]installed in the box.
]
]This box hang every week. I do top to see if short of resource. CPU is
]not overloaded. Mem is still 1.5MB free plus 130MB free swap.
]
]From the console, I captrued the following message.
]
]<<
]
]Rocketport sInitch(1,0,6) failed
]Rocketport sInitch(1,0,7) failed
]Call Trace: [<00125085>] [<0012c8c4>] [<0012c90b>] [<00125116>]
][00123697>] [<001237af>] [<0010a941>]
] [<0017b9b4>}
]Code: 0f bf 42 0c 39 f0 75 18 0f bf 4a 0e 39 cb 7c 10 0f bf 42 10
]Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c181e454
<snip>
I think you have run out of memory. Check that your swap space is actually
being used (/proc/meminfo) and allocate more swap if needed.
The fact that it happens every week suggests "memory leak" to me. See if you
can get a list of processes and their memory use and run it to a log file twice
a day - look for anything that is growing and eating resources.
--
,-,_|\ George Dau. __
/ * \ gedau at isa dot mim dot com / |\
\_,--\_/ I live in .au, you need to add that |--+ |
v to the end of my e-mail address above. \_|/
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From: "Bill Piety" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AC'97 sound chips on board - no sound in RedHat 7.0
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:18:28 -0500
You may want to get the alsa driver for this soundcard. I've got the same
chip under RH7. Go to www.alsa-project.org for download & instructions.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Craig Kelley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Wilson Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My on-board sound chip VIA AC97 audio controller (WDM) works fine with
>> WinME. I tried to run sndconfig to enable the sound in my Linux
>> installation in RedHat 7.0. The program detected that the sound device
>> is VIA82cxxx. After I confirm the autoprobe was done and my system
>> hangs. I rebooted Linux and the startup freeze when starting the sound
>> module.
>>
>> Any body can help?
>
> In your BIOS setup, there is usually a setting like
>
> PnP OS Installed = Yes
>
> Change that to 'No' and see if it fixes the problem.
>
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The bare minumum.
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:55:14 -0500
Joel wrote:
> Hi. What is the bare minumum of software needed for linux to boot to bash.
> I am going to install linux on a computer with very little hardisk space
> (about 100 MB). Is it possible? I don't think Redhat installer will
> install the bare minimum, so I need to do it myself. I know this will be a
> little complicating (since I'm not a linux expert), so is there any website
> you know of that will give some light on what I'm trying to do? Thanks in
> advance.
100MB is more than enough. You can make a single floppy that can
boot linux to a bash prompt if you want. But IIRC the RedHat
installer has an option to select which packages to install.
Just pick what you need an leave the rest.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim)
Subject: Major Problem with tar, Red Hat 7.1 and 6.2
Date: 7 Jun 2001 00:19:15 GMT
I ran from /root in Red Hat 7.1:
cd ..
tar -cvpzf (disk file outside tar tree) ./
Any attempt to reload this file using a Red Hat 6.2 rescue configuration
leads to a system which remains read only on "/", i.e., does not remount
the root partition rw. Using the 7.1 configuration, I get a TERMINATION
(signal 15) out of tar in ./usr/share somewhere, and it's all over,
repeatedly (I've tried to --exclude the area that terminates).
This is most frustrating ... It would seem that the tar backup file
has fatal errors in it, but different versions of tar handle it differently.
Either way, it looks as tho' the backup is useless. Did tar change between
releases (how could anyone change tar, a UNIX standard?)?? Or is this
just another "mysterious" Linux problem??
Jim
remove not for email
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments?
Date: 7 Jun 2001 00:02:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6 Jun 2001 17:05:45 -0400 kj0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I rarely need to send attachments with my e-mail, and when I do I just
>use the attachment feature in my mail reader (Pine). I just learned,
>however, that MS Windows mail readers (or at least some of them)
>receive the attachment as "gibberish" appended at the end of the
>e-mail's text, instead of appearing as a clickable link to bring it
>up in MS Word.
Buggy readers. Pine does attachments correctly. This is not your problem,
although you might recommend better mailers to them. (Eudora has a good
rep.)
I recommend RTF, by the way, unless you actually need something RTF can't
do, such as embedded files from other applications.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: LG and Goldstar CDRs & Audio - Here's how...
Date: 7 Jun 2001 00:22:25 GMT
Actually, cdrecord also works in dao mode. IT does NOT work in track at
once (tao) mode.
The LG firmware is bad, and LG is totally and completely unhelpful.
I do NOT advise anyone to purchase LG CDR drives.
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dan Gray
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
] I was trying to get this to work yesterday and noticed that there had
]been a large number of posts to this forum on this subject, as a result of
]a few hours research and managing to extract the universal language of
]code from a German web page, here's how.....
]
]To everyone who has been asking on this forum, it is possible to write
]audio CDs from wav files on the LG and Goldstar CED-8081B drives using
]cdrdao...
] 1. You must be using .cdr or .wav files, for those writing from MP3
](ahem) this script will work for you...
]----------------------------
]#!/bin/sh
]for i in "$@"
]do
] mpg123 --cdr - "$i" > "$i".cdr
]done
]----------------------------
] 2. Get hold of the wav2dao perl script from
]
] http://www.daszler.de/linux/wav2dao.
] 2.1 Make it executable
] 3. Get cdrdao from
] http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/
] 3.1 Compile cdrdao
] 4. ./wav2dao.pl -n -o mycd.toc *.cdr
] 5. cdrdao write --device 0,1,0 --driver generic-mmc --speed 8 --buffers
]256 mycd.toc
] Obviously the devices need to be changed to reflect your system.
] Hope that this helps everyone ;)
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From: James M Banoczi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: EXT2 reference
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 20:32:19 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm looking for a good EXT2 reference. I would like one that describes
the sparse_super option. In particular, the rationale behind which
block groups maintain a copy of the superblock and block descripters. I
believe that it's blocks 0, 1, 3^n, 5^n, and 7^n but I would like to
know why this was chosen. Can anyone assist me?
Thanks in advance.
Jim
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From: "ThanhVu Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cdrecord and Plextor drive
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:34:31 -0400
hi
After much trouble recompiling the kernel for scsi emulation support - I
finally get the cdrecord to recognize my Plextor 12/10/24. However, the man
page of cdrecord talks about driver configuration for each drive instead of
using the generic driver.
There are drivers for a variety of popular drives but not Plextor. If you
have a Plextor cdrw, please show me how you configure so that it can take
full advantage of the drive's features ..
Thanks
ThanhVu Nguyen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Robert Ullman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: New Server: Hardware under Linux
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:50:51 -0500
Hi.
I'm building a server. After doing some research, I've decided
(for now) on the server hardware. I'd like to know if the hardware is
adequate
and if Linux will support it reasonably well. Below, I list what I've
chosen
for now, what we'll run on server, then some questions.
Hardware:
- ASUS A7M266 motherboard.
- AMD Athlon 1.3GHz 384kb cache, socket A, T-BIRD 266MHz.
- Adaptec 3200S RAID controller PCI to U160 w/32MB SDRAM 80MIPS 64bit.
Adaptec 64MB ECC SO-DIMM for the RAID controller.
Adaptec battery backup for 3200S RAID.
- Two Seagate Cheetah hard drives: 18.4GB, Ultra 160 SCSI, 10K RPM,
3.5LP.
- Toshiba 40X SCSI CD-ROM (XM-6401B).
- EtherPower II 10/100 PCI network card.
- Viewsonic Q71-5 Optiquest monitor: 17in/16.0v, 27mm, 1280X1024, 87Hz.
- MATROX Millenium G200 AGP 8 MB video card.
- Two 256 MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM ECC.
- Seagate Scorpion DAT drive (DDS-3).
- UPS- Probably Tripp Lite Smart Online 1000 (SU1000RT2U) with battery
pack.
(or Invensys Fortress or possibly Patriot II)
What we'll run:
- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3.
- RAID 1.
- Our ssl server will be running a modperl application with
reads and writes to db. We're most concerned about stability and
reliablity of hardware (and software!)-- especially during peak periods.
Of course, we'd like it to run reasonably fast as well.
Questions:
- Will the hardware I've chosen run well under Debian Linux?
- Does linux (and Debian) support Tripp Lite UPS? What packages--
genpower? upsd? powstatd? Or is Fortress of Patriot II better supported
under linux (and debian)?
I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.
Robert
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