Linux-Misc Digest #58, Volume #20 Tue, 4 May 99 14:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Linux/m68k Registration Site (Geert Uytterhoeven)
where to put libjpeg.so , libpng.so files ? (Mihaly Gyulai)
Re: slow telnet from Win95 to Red Hat 5.1 (Brian Stewart)
Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ? ("Larry Brasfield")
slow telnet from Win95 to Red Hat 5.1 (John Holmes)
Re: gcc problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Where to get glibc-crypt-2.0.7pre*? (Donn Miller)
Re: DVD movies on Linux ? (Robert Brashear)
Re: X-SVGA-Server mit CL-GD 5426! (Vaclav Stepan)
Re: Computer virus threat to Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
newbie linux questions (Albert Goins)
Re: Blac icons in Netscape (Jakup Michaelsen)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Ed Avis)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Mike Coffin)
Re: ACL (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Kernel 2.2.X rpm (Johan Kullstam)
Re: RealVideo 5.0 and kernel 2.2.x ?? (Eric Potter)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Peter)
ssh masqueraded connection resets with RedHat 6? (Mark Tumbrel)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Robert Krawitz)
Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing? (Lee Maguire)
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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.m68k
Subject: Linux/m68k Registration Site
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:09:21 +0200
Linux/m68k Registration Site
ADDRESS
http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~geert/Linux/m68k/
PURPOSE
The main goal of this registration site is to get an impression of the
popularity of Linux/m68k, cfr. the Linux counter of Harald Tveit
Alvestrand.
LINUX/M68K USAGE
* General statistics
* Linux/m68k users
* Linux/m68k system configurations
* Linux/m68k machines connected to the Internet
MONTHLY OVERVIEW
This is an overview of the Linux/m68k registry. It's posted monthly to
comp.os.linux.m68k, comp.os.linux.misc and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User statistics
Country Count Percentage
------------------------------------------------
Australia 47 2.55%
Austria 17 0.92%
Belgium 29 1.58%
Brazil 4 0.22%
Bulgaria 1 0.05%
Canada 63 3.42%
Chile 2 0.11%
Colombia 1 0.05%
Croatia 3 0.16%
Czech Republic 16 0.87%
Denmark 37 2.01%
Finland 66 3.59%
France 132 7.17%
Germany 378 20.54%
Greece 12 0.65%
Greenland 1 0.05%
Hungary 10 0.54%
Ireland 5 0.27%
Italy 77 4.18%
Japan 12 0.65%
Latvia 2 0.11%
Lithuania 1 0.05%
Luxembourg 2 0.11%
Mexico 8 0.43%
Netherlands 72 3.91%
New Zealand 8 0.43%
Norway 42 2.28%
Poland 37 2.01%
Portugal 10 0.54%
Russian Federation 4 0.22%
Singapore 1 0.05%
Slovak Republic 2 0.11%
South Africa 2 0.11%
South Korea 9 0.49%
Spain 31 1.68%
Sweden 107 5.82%
Switzerland 41 2.23%
Trinidad & Tobago 1 0.05%
Turkey 7 0.38%
Ukraine 1 0.05%
United Kingdom 155 8.42%
United States of America 376 20.43%
Yugoslavia 4 0.22%
------------------------------------------------
Total 1840
System statistics
Platforms
Platform Count Percentage
------------------------------------------------
Amiga 1267 66.40%
Apollo 3 0.16%
Atari 239 12.53%
Custom 9 0.47%
HP 9000/300 14 0.73%
Macintosh 320 16.77%
NeXT 4 0.21%
Q40 5 0.26%
Sun 3 18 0.94%
VME 29 1.52%
------------------------------------------------
Total 1908
CPUs
CPU Count Percentage
------------------------------------------------
MC68020 66 3.46%
MC68030 932 48.85%
MC68040 591 30.97%
MC68060 319 16.72%
------------------------------------------------
Total 1908
Generic machine statistics
Mean Maximum
------------------------------------------------
Amount of system RAM (MB) 24 150
Amount of disk space (MB) 1876 72000
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REGISTRATION
If you are running Linux/m68k and you want to become a registered user,
or if you want to update your data, please fill in the form at
http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~geert/Linux/m68k/Registration.html
and select `Register'.
If you don't have access to the World Wide Web, you can fill in the
attached ASCII form and E-mail it to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or fax it to
+32-16-535823
or mail it to
Geert Uytterhoeven
C. Huysmansstraat 12
B-3128 Baal
BELGIUM
We welcome your registration!
=====attached=form=============================================================
Basic information
The following information is mandatory for registration:
* Your name:
________________________________________
* Your country:
________________
* Your system platform:
[Amiga|Apollo|Atari|Custom|HP 9000/300|Macintosh|NeXT|Q40|Sun 3|VME]
________________
* Your CPU type:
[MC68020|MC68030|MC68040|MC68060]
_______
* Your CPU clock frequency (in MHz):
______
* Your total amount of usable system RAM (i.e. excluding Chip RAM on
Amiga, including ST-RAM on Atari) (in MB):
______
* Your total amount of hard disk space (in MB):
______
This information will be used e.g. for statistics, like
The mean Linux/m68k user lives in Germany, has a MC68037.77 running at
36.39 MHz, equipped with 24.9 MB RAM and 1876.67 MB diskspace. :-)
Other information
The following information is welcome too, but not necessary for
registration:
* Your E-mail address: (Recommended)
________________________________________
* More information about your system configuration:
________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________
* Your full qualified hostname (if your Linux/m68k machine is
connected to the Internet):
________________________________________
* The URL of your home page:
________________________________________
* Your voice phone number:
________________
* Your fax number:
________________
* Your snail address:
________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________
* Additional comments about you or your system:
________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________
[ ] Check this box if you registered before and want your data to be
updated.
[ ] Check this box if the above information may not be published on
the Linux/m68k registration pages.
Thank you for your registration!
=====attached=form=============================================================
--
Geert Uytterhoeven [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wavelets, Linux/{m68k~Amiga,PPC~CHRP} http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~geert/
Department of Computer Science -- Katholieke Universiteit Leuven -- Belgium
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: where to put libjpeg.so , libpng.so files ?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 08:57:02 GMT
I tried to install 'amaya' package, and it says : libjpeg.so.62, and
libpng.so.2 needed...
Where to put these files ?
I have libpng.so.2 in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib, but
'amaya' can't find it there...
--
Mihaly Gyulai
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/gyulai/
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From: Brian Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: slow telnet from Win95 to Red Hat 5.1
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 11:38:38 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Add the windows 95 to the linux /etc/hosts file if you have a small lan.
I had the exact same problem with telnet'N and ftp'N from a Windows(95
and NT) box to a linux box until I updated /etc/hosts. I do not know if
the problem exists if a DNS server is present. I also do not know if
SAMBA bing present or not will solve this ether (I have SAMBA and still
had the problem) I do know if you use DHCP and the linux box is the DHCP
server and the windows box is the DHCP client the problem does not
exist. I do not know if the problem resides with the windows machine or
with the linux machine but I have only seen the problem with a
windows/linux session.
my /etc/hosts file looks like this
127.0.0.1 localhost
192.168.1.1 linuxbox.mydomain.on.ca linuxbox
192.168.1.2 winntbox.mydomain.on.ca winntbox
192.168.1.3 win95box.mydomain.on.ca win95box
Have a good day and sorry for the long explination, I hate answers that
are short winded when I have a problem
Brian Stewart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Larry Brasfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 12:51:49 GMT
Robin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
Others wrote >> quoted stuff.
>> 1. Start your xserver on the pc. You may need to configure it to run in
>> "Single window mode", or whatever.
>>The MiX server (MicroImages X server as
>>referred to below) comes as a set of .exe's
>>for the Windows platform. The icon that is
>>installed launches TNTSTART.exe which
>>starts both the server itself, XS.exe, and a
>>window manager TWM.exe.
>>To use (one of) the Linux window managers,
>>(KDE in my case), just be sure XS.exe has
>>been started first on the Windows machine,
>>the one whose net name is "pcaddress" here.
>>For your Mac, I'm sure there is a similar split
>>of responsibility among executable images,
>>but they will be named differently, of course.
>> 2. Telnet into your linux box, login as your userid
>>You can also start this from the Linux console
>>if you do not have telnet on your Mac.
>> 3. set your DISPLAY variable: "export DISPLAY=pcaddress:0.0"
>> 4. run your .xinit or /etc/X11/xinit verify these
>> file locs first I can't remember where they live.
> I followed the exact details as above and then type startx it STILL starts
> up on my laptop not the remote X machine.
Please forgive me if I belabor issues that
seem too obvious. Also, please so state if
any of the following assumptions are false:
1. You set the DISPLAY environment variable
on your Linux box to reflect the net name of
your Mac rather than "pcaddress".
2. You can successfully ping that same name.
3. When you start the X server, no errors are
observed on the Mac side at that time.
4. Your laptop is your Linux box.
5. When you attempt to start the X client on
your Linux box, no errors are observable from
whatever display you use to make the attempt.
6. If you start MiX in the default way, and set
DISPLAY per above, then enter "xterm &" on
the Linux console, you get to interact with a
Linux shell thru a single window on the Mac.
(The assumption is that your MiX setup is
OK and the unsolved problem is merely to
get a different window/desktop manager
to run instead of MiX's TWM look-alike.
> Is there something I am missing?
Probably, but unless one of the above
assumptions is wrong, I don't know what.
--
--Larry Brasfield
Above opinions may be mine alone.
(Humans may reply at unundered [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
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From: John Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: slow telnet from Win95 to Red Hat 5.1
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 21:05:15 +0900
We have a computer lab with 9 Win95 computers and one recently switched
to Red Hat Linux.
The windows computers are running a free x-server which the students
launch after logging
into a telnet session on the linux box. When telnet is launched it
sometimes takes up to a minute
to get the login prompt. At other times it only takes a couple of
seconds. Users can log in fine once
the finally get a prompt. Any suggestions where to start looking? The
/etc/hosts , /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny are all empty.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: gcc problems
Date: 4 May 1999 12:00:14 GMT
In his obvious haste, Joy Hendrickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: I have installed RedHat 5.2 on a 486, and I was just getting in the
: swing of things until I tried to compile some c code, It dosent matter
: what progrma I try to compile I alwasy ge tthe same errors which are
: (some are different according to the program I am trying to compile but
: all are basically the same they cant find some *.h file):
: sys/types.h no such file or directory
: stdio.h no such file or directory
: sys/files.h no such file or directory
The include directory (usually /usr/include) seems not to be installed.
Go back to the red hat CD and look for sonething like that.
(On SuSE it's called linclude, I think)
You can do very little with C in any operating system without at least
<stdio.h>
--
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|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| |
| Andrew Halliwell | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
| Finalist in:- | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
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|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Where to get glibc-crypt-2.0.7pre*?
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:11:05 -0400
I didn't see a copy of glibc-crypt-2.0.7pre* on alpha.gnu.org. I'm trying
to build glibc-2.0.7-pre6, and so far the files I have are:
glibc-2.0.7pre6.tar.gz
glibc-localedata-2.0.7pre3.tar.gz
glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.7pre6.tar.gz
glibc-crypt-2.0.6.tar.gz
This is about as close to glibc-2.0.7-pre6 as I could find on gnu's alpha
server.
Thanks
Donn
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From: Robert Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: DVD movies on Linux ?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 11:40:25 -0500
> ::>
> ::>Maybe do your homework and watch a flick.
> ::>
> ::>Syd
> ::>-Veni, vidi, vici... Then I went home.
Then, you're not really doing your homework! [grin]
Sorry, it was just hanging out there and I had to say it. This old
fuddy-duddy will crawl back into his cave now..
Bob Brashear
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vaclav Stepan)
Subject: Re: X-SVGA-Server mit CL-GD 5426!
Crossposted-To:
at.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Date: 4 May 1999 19:19:32 +0100
Daniel Wagner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello out there,
: I've the following problem with X:
: If i want to use 800x600 pixels with 16bpp the X-Server doesn't startup and
: displays an errormessage:
: ...no screens found...
: Can anybody help me?
: Daniel
: PS: If I use any mode with 8bpp X works really fine.
There's some problem with mapping the upper 512 K of the graphic card memory. If there
was no progress, you won't be able to get more than 8bpp if you have more than 16 MB
RAM. It's all discussed in the Cirrus-howto (or something like that).
--
Vaclav Stepan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Computer virus threat to Linux?
Date: 4 May 1999 12:49:00 GMT
In his obvious haste, Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
: In comp.os.linux.misc, "Matthew B. Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: :Are there any threats to Linux systems from computer virii?
: There is no word "virii", since there is no rule that takes "-us" to
: "-ii". There is a rule that takes "-us" to "-uses", and I suggest you
: use it by default, including for such words as virus and hippopotamus.
Ahem... The plural of Hipopotamus is Hipopotami, and I imagine this is where
the word Viri came from.
: Classically, there are also rules that take "-us" to "-i" as in radius or
: alumnus, to "-era" as in genus and opus, to "-ora" as in corpus, and to
: "-Us" with a macron over the long "u" as in the ancient forms of status,
: hiatus, apparatus, and prospectus. But there is simply no rule that takes
: "-us" to "-ii".
OK, so he got an extra 'i'...
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|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: Albert Goins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie linux questions
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 11:51:47 -0500
I have installed Red Hat 5.1 on my new machine after not having a
machine to put Linux on for 3 years. A lot has changed in that time and
I have a few questions I am having trouble finding answers to.
1. Why doesn't LILO work?
I have windows 98 on an 8.4 GB /dev/hda and installed redhat on an
8.4 GB /dev/hdc (my cdrom is on /dev/hdb). They are both ultra dma.
When I install LILO on my MBR it breaks. The computer boots and then
gives an endless stream on 0101010101 on the screen and I have to
reboot. Restored the MBR with fdisk /mbr and am now using a boot disk,
but I would really like LILO to work.
2. Will my Creative Labs 3D Blaster Banshee AGP 16 meg video card work
with X? Quake?
This one is pretty self explanatory. BTW, I have a Pentium II with
128 meg RAM and an Asus P2B m/b.
3. Why won't my windows 98 drive mount to /win98 like I told it to?
How do I do this other than using disk Druid in the Red Hat install?
What about my cdrom (IDE)?
Thanks a lot!
--
Albert Goins
University of Minnesota Twin Cities
Computer Science
Lab Consultant EE/Csci 4-204, MechE 308
ICQ# 31412664
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.itlabs.umn.edu/~goin0004
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From: Jakup Michaelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blac icons in Netscape
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 18:27:14 +0000
Hi.
Just wanted to say it worked, and thanks - I was running 24bpp, and apparently
Netscape agrees more with 16bpp.
Thanks again
Jakup
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From: Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 18:35:44 +0100
Andrew Carol wrote:
>My point is that most people will simply go with the flow. If the
>dongle were built in, and software was "activated" while registering
>on-line, most people would not care. The only people who know enough
>to care are a very, very, very, tiny minority.
What you say may be true for home users, but large companies will
probably be a bit more savvy. And in a situation where software were
non-copyrightable, it wouldn't take long for an enterprising 'service
provider' to rent out PCs or NCs, complete with cracked copies of all
the best applications.
--
Ed Avis
Advertise here! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 04 May 1999 10:27:42 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
> I had a long e-mail conversation with him. He's not only
> anarcho-capitalist, but a hard-core libertarian, too. I fully expect
> every libertarian to go nuts some day.
Why would you think that? I've never heard of a libertarian going
nuts.
-mike
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ACL
Date: 04 May 1999 12:56:47 -0400
"Andreas Moroder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi there,
>
> is there a way to have ACL on Linux ( if possible with the ext2fs )
yes. go to ftp.franz.com. there are libc5 and glibc2 versions under
redhat4 and redhat5 directories respectively. (this has nothing
really to do with redhat, it's just franz' wacky nomenclature.)
--
johan kullstam
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.X rpm
Date: 04 May 1999 12:58:33 -0400
Todd Ostermeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Precompiled kernels in general are a Bad Idea (tm). The only real use
> they have are for installation or rescue disks.
there's the ever popular normal `boot' as well. you need a compiled
kernel for that too. ;-)
--
johan kullstam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Potter)
Subject: Re: RealVideo 5.0 and kernel 2.2.x ??
Date: 4 May 1999 17:03:26 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
Kertis A. Henderson enlightened this group thus:
>
> I can't get RV5 to work. I read somewhere that RV5 doesn't like 2.2.x,
> and I'm running 2.2.6. Is this true? Thanks in advance for any
> replies.
>
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes tells you how to fix it.
--
* ^ \ ___@
*^ / \ \ | \
/ \/ \ \__| \
/ / ^ \ \
/ \ \ Eric Potter
/ ^ ^ \ \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:45:17 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Carol
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My point is that most people will simply go with the flow. If the
> dongle were built in, and software was "activated" while registering
> on-line, most people would not care. The only people who know enough
> to care are a very, very, very, tiny minority.
>
But it is the ones that do understand that should educate the rest
--
Peter
" Don't you eat that yellow snow
Watch out where the huskies go"
FZ
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From: Mark Tumbrel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: ssh masqueraded connection resets with RedHat 6?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:09:43 -0700
I have two machines which are behind different firewalls (one is a
2.2-style IPchains masq and the other a 2.0-style ipfw masq).
Previously, one was running RH5.0 and one was running RH5.2, and I could
ssh to outside hosts with no problem. Now, after a while, the ssh
connection will reset on these hosts. Concurrently, a connection to the
same hosts from the firewall will not reset. It happened to both hosts,
each with a different firewall, ISP, etc. These tests seem to indicate
that something bad happened in RedHat 6 to break either TCP/IP through a
firewall or ssh. No changes were
made to the firewall machines.
Is any else running RedHat 6 with this configuration? Anyone else
seeing this problem, and/or have a suggested fix?
Besides dumping RedHat, which is starting to look tempting.
-MT
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: 04 May 1999 12:47:19 -0400
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello) writes:
> > What if I can't trust my coworkers with the source?
> what if an meteor lands on your head?
Indeed.
Chris, if you're determined to restrict access to the source, the GPL
is not for you. It's as simple as that. You have other alternatives,
if keeping the source secret is the most important consideration.
All this talk about the GPL being more restrictive than the BSDL and
how hypocritical it is of the FSF are entirely missing the point of
the GPL. The following paragraph from the preamble of the GPL
explains the rationale:
To protect your rights, we need to make restrictions that forbid
anyone to deny you these rights or to ask you to surrender the rights.
These restrictions translate to certain responsibilities for you if
you distribute copies of the software, or if you modify it.
If you (general, not specifically directed at Chris) incorporate
GPL'ed sort code into your software, you benefit from the GPL, not
merely the availability of the source code and the right to create
derivative works. Why is that? Well, perhaps somebody else found an
improvement to the sort algorithm as part of incorporating that into
his software. Under the BSDL, that person has no obligation to make
that change available, but under the GPL, that person does (assuming
that he makes the rest of that package available). So you've
benefited (potentially, at any rate; that other person might have had
no intention of keeping the change proprietary) from the obligation of
that person to make his changes available. If you in turn want to
keep your changes proprietary, you're asking for special rights.
What the GPL is not designed to do is to protect the ability of
someone to benefit commercially from the code BY KEEPING IT, OR ANY
DERIVED WORK, SECRET. If that's in conflict with someone's notion of
commercial reality, so be it. The purpose of the GPL is not to
protect commercial activity (although if it enhances commercial
activity based on free software, that's a good side effect), but
rather to protect the long-term freedom of the code.
If you don't want to trust your co-workers with the code, then you're
evidently not concerned with the long-term freedom of it, and
shouldn't be using it.
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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From: Lee Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix
Subject: Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing?
Date: 4 May 1999 18:41:10 +0100
Reply-To: {$news-reply$}@wetware.demon.co.uk
Alan J Rosenthal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This is one of the reasons I say that a kernel solution should be pursued.
>A way to permit people to run console graphics without root.
see <URL:http://www.ggi-project.org/docs/> for information about GGI/KGI.
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Lee Maguire <{$news-reply$}@wetware.demon.co.uk>
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