Linux-Misc Digest #58, Volume #26 Tue, 17 Oct 00 05:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: How do I enable port forwarding ("Steve Ripp")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ("David Fulton")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Markus =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6hmer?=)
Re: people "cdrecord"ing on Linux, help please! (Ray)
Re: RH7 Compatibility with stuff ("Alim")
Re: Unresolved Symbols (RH 6.2 on AMD T-bird on Abit KA-7 board) ("David Fulton")
Re: Bizarre shell problem. NO WAY (Sven Mascheck)
Re: Problem running LyX (Robert Kiesling)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
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From: "Steve Ripp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.net.masquerade
Subject: Re: How do I enable port forwarding
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:50:35 -0700
with ipmasqadm.
check out the following script and note the section on ipmasqadm:
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/tips/firewall/firewallservice.html
good luck!
Steve
"craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In Redhat linux 6.2 kernel 2.1.14, I want to make my linux firewall
> forward ports such that Microsoft gaming Zone can get thru the firwall
> from the Win98 machine behind the firewall.
>
> Can someone tell me how you are doing it?
>
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From: "David Fulton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:36:46 -0600
I stand corrected then "many people" as opposed to some.
Btw, the other ATM stands for Asynchronous Transfer Mode and is a networking
technology that allows for differing types of transmissions. There are some
educational institutions that use it for phone, video, and Internet, all on
one line.
"Tom Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7cyF5.160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> David Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:GlgF5.2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > HMMM...
> >
> [...]
> >
> > I think you need to seperate out the fact that OS/2 was taken over by
IBM
> > and is still used by some people today (quite religiously too, although
I
> am
> > not one that uses it.)
>
> Don't be too sure of your self on this one -- many people use OS/2 without
> even realizing it -- most, if not all, ATM's are running OS/2 In fact, I
> remember reading a trade magazine almost 5 years ago where they pointed
out
> the latest ATM was running OS/2 2.1 "out of the box" ...
>
> [ATM here means Automated Teller, not that fancy high-speed message
transfer
> system... ]
>
>
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From: Markus =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6hmer?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:26:16 +0200
David Fulton wrote:
> I think you need to seperate out the fact that OS/2 was taken over by
> IBM
> and is still used by some people today (quite religiously too, although
Even a lot of banks here in Germany use OS/2 Warp v.3 for their daily
work.
They say, that it is an secure system.
--
Markus Boehmer
Systemadministrator & Datenbankentwickler
SSI Schaefer Shop GmbH
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Subject: Re: people "cdrecord"ing on Linux, help please!
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:35:58 -0000
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:31:00 -0400, Minya Liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hi,
>
>after successfully burning 3 data CDs on my new YAMAHA CDRW, i started
>making coasters because cdrecord crashes midway every time with the
>"write_g1:" error. i read through lots of newsgroup postings from people
>with similar problems but have not yet seen a good answer.
>
>since there do exist people maintaining a perfect "record" of burning CDs
>on linux with cdrecord, maybe it would be equally helpful if these lucky
>ones could share their HW/SW configurations with us. This may provide
>valuable insights to what might be wrong.
>
>please help us!!!
Well, I'm using Cdrecord 1.8 with kernel 2.2.15 and Debian Linux and a Ricoh
7040A ATAPI CDRW drive. The drive has been perfect for the past 6 months or
so that I've owned it (about 100 cdrs and mabye 20 cdrws). Previously I had
a Memorex drive that started giving a similar error to yours part way
through writes after almost exactly 1 year of use. I sent it back to
Memorex who returned it saying nothing was wrong. I never got around to
trying to fix the drive and later sold it as a read only drive. The buyer
later told me that he got the drive working in two steps:
1: Clearing the drive's buffer by placing a jumper on pins 19&20 on the
drive's ide connector (I think that's the right pins but check Memorex's FAQ
to be sure).
2: Flashing the Drive's BIOS.
I hope some of this helps.
--
Ray
>
>
>thanks in advance,
>
>minya
>
>***
>the following is a description of my trouble, in case anyone is patient
>enough to read on.
>
>Redhat6.2, 2.2.14 kernel
>Yamaha 8824EZ
>cdrecord-1.9
>
>as i said, i was successful in burning 3 CDs, the first one using cdrecord
>in text mode; the second and third using BurnIT - a java front end that
>works with cdrecord1.8.1 only (i put a symbolic link in BurnIT's dir to
>ensure the correct cdrecord version being used)
>
>then i switched off my computer and went to get groceries and came back to
>find cdrecord no longer working. (that's why i hate shopping even more!)
>
>when i came back, i started copying a data CD to harddisk. when the CD was
>loaded, the CDRW made a VERY loud noise when reading it - a lot of
>vibration too. so i quit the process and changed the data CD to another
>one, everything is back to normal again. once the image is copied to
>harddisk using mkisofs, i started burning it to a blank CDR with
>cdrecord. at ~403MB of 640MB, the cdrecord aborted due to some
>write_g1: sendcmd : retryable error. Sense key is "Illegal request".
>
>i am desperate to know whether it's a HW or a SW problem. my configuration
>(kernel 2.2.14 + cdrecord 1.8) must have been correct before. what i don't
>get is without any kernel upgrade or system change, why the config stopped
>working suddenly? could it be that BurnIT changed the cdrecord settings or
>the noisy reading session crippled my CDRW?
>
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From: "Alim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7 Compatibility with stuff
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:53:51 +0100
fair enough - see you all in about 24hrs then...
alim
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From: "David Fulton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Unresolved Symbols (RH 6.2 on AMD T-bird on Abit KA-7 board)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:53:38 -0600
When I first started using Linux, I had the same problem. It was related to
the fact that the modules are from a previous compile. Try the following in
/usr/src/linux
$ make mrproper #This will remove all object, dependancy, and config files,
so backup your config file if you want to keep it.
$ make xconfig/menuconfig #This will make your config, alternatively, you
can just restore your config.
$ make dep
$ make bzImage
$ cp System.map /boot #This is optional and you should only copy System.map
after saving the old one.
$ cp arch/<architechture>/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz #Ditto, except it is
obviously not optional.
$ mv /lib/modules /lib/modules.old
$ make modules
$ make modules_install
This will make everything clean. Make sure you have everything you need.
Alternatively, you can make a monolithic (i.e. no modules needed or
supported.) This has the advantage that your hardware is recognized and
pretty much set up before your rc scripts ever start. The disadvantage is
that there are certain features that are only available as modules and the
kernel tends to be a bit memory hungry in this config. My suggestion is to
compile support for all your hardware into the kernel as you will need them
often(esp. serial/ether/console/harddrive options.) and then compile all the
little options that you want to mess with as modules.
HTH
"Michael Hohensee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm having problems properly compiling a kernel + modules for my RH 6.2
> system, running on an AMD T-bird with an Abit KA-7 motherboard. Before
> booting up for the first time, I had to recompile the kernel to prevent
> it from attempting to turn off the nonexistant PIII identifier number
> (which always resulted in a kernel panic). The only thing I changed in
> the default kernel configuration was the Processor Type & Features menu
> via 'make xconfig'. The machine now boots successfully, but is unable
> to insmod any of the modules in /lib/modules. It first runs into a huge
> sequence of depmod errors:
>
> <Snip>
> Sep 11 12:03:20 G22-71 rc.sysinit: Remounting root filesystem in
> read-write mode succeeded
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod:
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/autofs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/coda.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/fat.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/hfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/hpfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/lockd.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/minix.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/ncpfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/nfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/nfsd.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/romfs.o
> ...
> <Etc>
>
> It does this for every module in /lib/modules. So naturally:
>
> <Snip>
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 autofs: autofs startup succeeded
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 automount[382]: starting automounter version
> 3.1.4, path = /misc, maptype = file, mapname = /etc/auto.misc
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 random: Initializing random number generator
> succeeded
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/autofs.o:
> insmod autofs failed
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 automount[382]: /misc: mount failed!
> ...
> <Etc>
>
> Interestingly enough, the system works fairly well, although anything
> which requires the loading of a module (autofs, lockd, or sound) doesn't
> work. Recompiling the modules doesn't appear to change anything, except
> perhaps to generate more unusable modules.
>
> Has anyone ever run into this problem before, or been able to
> successfully install and test Linux on a system like mine? (AMD T-Bird
> 700MHz KA-7 board) If so, how was it corrected, or which distribution
> did you use?
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> --
> Michael Hohensee
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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bizarre shell problem. NO WAY
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: 17 Oct 2000 10:10:48 +0200
[f'up to comp.os.linux.misc]
In comp.os.linux.setup Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>ljb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Servet Ahmet Cizmeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ broken binary executable? ]
>>> # strace /usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid
>>> execve("/usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid",
>>> ["/usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid"], [/* 28 vars */]) = 0
>>> strace: exec: No such file or directory
This particular error message is interesting.
>> [ file corrupted, so that file(1) is ok about magic number but
>> execve(2) fails to 'load' it ]
>> execve got it and probably returned ENOEXEC (Exec Format
>> Error) when it tried to load it.
This should result in 'cannot execute binary file',
but 'loading' the file might have failed in a more subtle way.
> Also, make sure that the file is not located on a filesystem
> which was mounted with the noexec flag.
That would result in 'permission denied'.
But usually this is a hot tip.
> However, I have to admit that it is strange that even ldd doesn't
> show the libraries.
ldd also just _starts_ executing it - but the loader then is told to
be verbose about loading libraries. Thus the same errors will appear.
Unfortunately i haven't noticed earlier that there's a linux somewhere
here with matlab5. Said file is an ordinary executable, not forking:
$ strace -f ./lmhostid
execve("./lmhostid", ["./lmhostid"], [/* 50 vars */]) = 0
mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, [...]
[...]
Servet,
- plain access: can you copy that file to another place?
- what about the other binaries in the same directory?
In particular i have several identical binaries with just
different names, acting different by looking at their name.
If it's the same with yours - and if 'lmhostid' is actually broken,
you could 'restore by copy' ;-)
f'up comp.os.linux.misc
Sven
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Subject: Re: Problem running LyX
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 Oct 2000 04:09:45 -0400
Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi
> I just installed Lyx-1.1.5fix1 (compiled it). I get the following
> error.
>
> [root@guo /root]# lyx
> lyx: error in loading shared libraries: libc.so.5: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
>
> libc.so.5 is located at /usr/486-linux-libc5/lib/libc.so.5.
>
> What could be the problem ?
The executable depends on libc.so.5 being in either /lib or /usr/lib,
probably. A quick, backward compatibility fix, is to symbolic link
the library in the directory where the executable can find it at the
pathname that was linked for; for example, in /lib:
# cd /lib && ln -s /usr/486-linux-libc5/lib/libc.so.5 .
The library doesn't have to be in the destination directory.
Also remember to run ldconfig after creating the link. And keep in
mind that this sort of modification is *not* compatible with any
future upgrades.
Btw, 'ldd lyx' will tell you what libraries it was linked agains
by reading the executable's symbol table.
--
http://www.mainmatter.com/linux-faq/toc.html http://www.mainmatter.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:41:30 -0000
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:15:50 +0200, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was the Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:47:56 GMT...
>...and [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Pretty good don't cut it.
>>
>> It sucks and is even more bloated than MSOffice.
>
>Define "it sucks". Define "bloated".
>
>(I don't use office suites at all, BTW, I don't cultivate any
>irrational sympathies towards any such product.)
I object to the very notion of an office suite. End users should
be free to pick and choose the components they wish to use. Such
components should interoperate freely.
This is the promise of things like OLE that goes unfullfilled.
[deletia]
--
Economists are still trying to figure out why the girls with the least
principle draw the most interest.
How much does she love you? Less than you'll ever know.
birth, n:
The first and direst of all disasters.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:45:26 -0000
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:24:04 +0200, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was the Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:46:43 GMT...
>...and [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the Linux world that will 100 percent
>> emulate MSOffice. Nothing at all.
Such comments are just weak excuses to be vague.
>
>The inevitable question is: Why would anyone in their right mind even
>want to do that?
If Product X doesn't float your boat, you need to actually be able
to express what about that product annoys your or fails to meet your
needs if you expect anyone to take you seriously when you start
moaning "it sux".
Besides, genuine criticism can be used to design improvements and
judge relative merits in some fashion resembling objective.
--
You have literary talent that you should take pains to develop.
Freedom of the press is for those who happen to own one.
A baby is an alimentary canal with a loud voice at one end and no
responsibility at the other.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:54:21 -0000
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:03:58 -0400, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>No.You're SOL. Word's revision feature is one of the reasons writers use it,
>and indeed, comes in very handy for what you allude to. It's a dream for
>multiple-writer collaboration.
It also tends to be a big fat security hole.
Like many things in Windows, it's dangerous if put in the
hands of people who choose not to have any understanding
of what they are doing.
[deletia]
--
You will gain money by an illegal action.
If I were to walk on water, the press would say I'm only doing it
because I can't swim.
-- Bob Stanfield
RHAPSODY in Glue!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:55:25 -0000
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:08:17 -0400, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This IS the problem folks! People are used to MS suite products. The GREAT,
>read GREAT majority of people who actually DO work with computer software
>use Office.
No. People just have to deal with the majority that still
insists on tossing around MS encrypted documents. That is
a far more relevant issue than minor interface issues.
>There are some suites that offer emulation, and limited compatibility. But
>none, read NONE of these products are going to do most of the things that
>users of Office are used to. PERIOD.
...and what are those things precisely?
[deletia]
--
"Wish not to seem, but to be, the best."
-- Aeschylus
TRANSACTION CANCELLED - FARECARD RETURNED
The Golden Rule is of no use to you whatever unless you realize it
is your move.
-- Frank Crane
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:59:59 -0000
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:06:32 -0400, jazz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard M. Denney"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> jazz wrote:
>>
>> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> > > I've found that a good solution is to use Word under VMWare.
>> >
>> > Thanks, what's that?
>> >
>> > I just started looking at prices for Pentium III systems. Boy, cheap,
>> > compared to the Macs I'd need to buy to run OSX.
>> >
>> > Jim
>>
>> I think VMWare is the best solution. See www.vmware.com. I also run
>> Linux in a Microsoft-dependent medical school. In Linux I have Windows
>> NT4 loaded with MS Office and Adobe photoshop and they work fine. For
>> goodness sake, use whatever tool is easiest for your job. VMware permits
>> one to have the best of both worlds.
>>
>> Rick
>
>
>
>I'll check it out. My problem is I want to do my usual Mac stuff with MS
>Word, and do development under Linux. On the same machine.
VPC ships with Redhat x86 these days...
>
>I've just discovered that some pretty good Linux's are available for Macs.
>And I would not have to upgrade to the G3 I'd need for OS X, or buy a
>Linux PC.
>
>Plus it would let me boot Linux off of one HD, and Mac OS off another.
--
Suicide is simply a case of mistaken identity.
Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?
-- Tom Stoppard
The difference between legal separation and divorce is that legal
separation gives the man time to hide his money.
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