Linux-Misc Digest #58, Volume #27                 Thu, 8 Feb 01 13:13:03 EST

Contents:
  is there a kernel patch for hd cache pb on halt ? ("S.A.")
  Re: gnucash/g-wrap/guile problem (David)
  BTK New Toolkit and Desktop Environment(BDE) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Stefan Ohlsson)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Ian Davey)
  InterNet Phone HELP !!! ("�q���媼")
  Re: Getting started with Java (Steve Ackman)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Ackman)
  Re: Dual Processor advantage? (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner)
  Problem compliing quanta 2.0beta4 (Aaron B. Hockley)
  Identify a WinModem?? (Terry)
  mp3 statistical analysis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: modprobe not working in 2.4 (Alain Lafrance)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Brian V. Smith)
  Re: ftp and proxy ? (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner)
  Re: File System questions -- please help. (Aitor)
  sshd does not seem to autostart in RH7 runlevel 3 (Charlie Zender)
  Re: Optimize for Speed? ("Matt O'Toole")
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Karel Jansens)
  writing hello world in linux (Mint)
  Re: File System questions -- please help. (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: sshd does not seem to autostart in RH7 runlevel 3 (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: remote distribution (rdist) or a better tool? (milanuk)
  Re: Cloning Linux Drives (milanuk)
  RH 7.1 beta, USB tape drive and software ("Nathan")

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From: "S.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: is there a kernel patch for hd cache pb on halt ?
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:29:55 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I have got a problem :
On recent hard disk, after using the halt command to shutdown, my hard
disk does not seem to 
be flushed correctly, since I have to check the disk manually when I
boot. 
Are there kernel patches or solution to this problem ?

thanks
steph

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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: gnucash/g-wrap/guile problem
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:19:23 GMT

Glitch wrote:
> 
> 
> thanks. I got guile compiled and g-wrap now. But stupid Gnucash can't
> find g-wrap.  I got it to find the g-wrap-config file but it won't file
> 'g-wrap',whatever that would be. I put the whole g-wrap directory from
> /usr/local/ in /usr/bin/ which is in root's path but still Gnucash is
> too stupid to find it.
> 
> What the hell am i supposed to do? THere isn't a configure option to
> specify where g-wrap was installed and I just moved the whole damn
> directory to /usr/bin.


For some reason if you use g-wrap-0.9.5-1  from
ftp.redhat.com/pub/rawhide/powertools/SRPMS  you can compile
gnucash-1.4.10-1 but if you use g-wrap-1.1.4-1 or 1.1.9-1 or 0.9.8-2 or
0.9.12 it doesn't seem to want to compile. For some resaon even trying
to compile some of these g-wrap files ends with a message that it needs
g-wrap guile-devel even though they are both already installed. I
haven't figured out why.

-- 
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Completed more W/U's than 99.045% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BTK New Toolkit and Desktop Environment(BDE)
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:05:38 GMT

Hello,
I am working on the new BTK, the BlackHole Toolkit, a brand new kit that
I thought up myself.  I need help with developing it, so if anyone wants
to help, if you know C/C++ or are good with documenting stuff, write me.
 Also, I need help with BDE, the BlackHole Desktop Environment, the DE
using the BTK, which I need help on.  I will release my major headers
for the TK in the next 2 weeks at http://black-hole.iwarp.com in an
archive, so if you want to help, write me, and watch the site.

Thanks,
Justin Hibbits

"Hack the Planet!  Hack the Planet" - Hackers(1995)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Ohlsson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Reply-To: Stefan Ohlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 8 Feb 2001 17:21:18 +0100

On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 13:27:10 GMT, Johan Kullstam wrote:
>Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>And if not, could you explain - in a clear and non-ambiguous way (*) -
>>how the universe came into being?
>only if you can explain -- in a clear and non-ambiguous way -- how god
>came into being.  invoking a creator of the universe adds complexity.
>
It all ends in the same question with or without God, the only
difference is what entity is asked about:
If God created the universe, where did God come from?
If God didn't create the universe, where did the universe come from?

I don't see a clear answer on any of these questions.

BTW, are there any newsgroup where this kind of discussion is on topic?

/Stefan
-- 
[ Stefan Ohlsson ]  �  There will always be survivors - Robert A. Heinlein � []

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Davey)
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:28:37 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Ohlsson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It all ends in the same question with or without God, the only
>difference is what entity is asked about:
>If God created the universe, where did God come from?
>If God didn't create the universe, where did the universe come from?
>
>I don't see a clear answer on any of these questions.

The difference being their are theories to explain the latter, but almost 
resounding silence on the first. 

>BTW, are there any newsgroup where this kind of discussion is on topic?

No idea, though I suspect this thread will soon whimper into non-existance... 
just waiting for a cosmic big bang to recreate it a few months down the line.

ian.

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Crossposted-To: 
be.graphics,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: InterNet Phone HELP !!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Subject: Re: Getting started with Java
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:11:51 -0500

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:28:47 +0100, Nils O. Sel�sdal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>>   Python has been called THE language with which to learn OO.
>>
>>   The Red Hat install program is written in Python, so it's
>> already installed if you're running Red Hat.  Type 'python'
>> at the command line and see if it's there.  If so, then type
>> 'idle' and see if you might have also accidentally installed
>> the so-called IDE.
>>
>>   If not, check out http://www.python.org, and put the notion
>> of Java on the shelf for some other day... (which, after you
>> get into Python, will likely never come.  ;-)


>Do there exist any decent IDE's for python...(i refuse to code in an OO
>laguage
>if a cannot get an ide with a codeinsight feature..)

  I'm new to python and don't use an IDE (yet?), so I'm not sure 
what a codeinsight feature is.  Searching through the help files,
the term "codeinsight" doesn't show up.  Perhaps it's known by a
different name in IDLE.  There's a class browser and a path
browser, if that's what you mean.

>And why is python not so widely used in the enterprise if it's so great?
>(im' talkin about application servers, corba, and things that work behind
>e.g. www.amazon.com)

  Isn't that kind of like asking why Linux isn't so widely used
in the enterprise if it's not so great?

  But just to mention a few...

Google
Red Hat
NASA
Los Alamos National Laboratory
IBM
SGI
MCI
RealNetworks
Infoseek
eGroups
Four11
Yahoo
Nortel
Florida Dept. of Motor Vehicles 
Bell Atlantic Mobil

  For a more comprehensive list of who's doing what with python,
see http://www.python.org/psa/Users.html 
  For further discussion, there's always comp.os.lang.python

-- 
Steve Ackman                            
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:16:14 -0500

On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:28:05 +1100, Geoffrey Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>One would hope so, because the egg's not on Jeb Bush's face,
>it's on the United States's.

...the United States'.  ;-)

-- 
Steve Ackman                            
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430

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From: Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual Processor advantage?
Date: 8 Feb 2001 16:34:11 GMT

Vishal Ailawadhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm new to this NG, and I'm just about to order some PC's for our
> department. I was wondering how much of an advantage there was in getting a
> dual machine (800 P3) as opposed to a single processor. 

        It depends on exactly what you do with the machines.  If these are
desktops, don't bother.  I would argue, in fact, that for most purposes,
multiple processors are overrated - and I use a dual-processor machine as
my main desktop!  There is some slight advantage to having two or more
processors even for a desktop machine: you can run compute-intensive jobs
and not lose (much) responsiveness, since the big job goes to one processor
and everything else runs on the other.  Keep in mind two things: one is
that much software is not multithreaded, so even if you run it on an SMP
machine, the best that will happen is that it will just hog one processor;
the other is that modern CPUs (x86 family, anyway) are vastly overpowered
relative to the other components of the system.  Concentrate on getting a
fast bus, fast hard drives, and fast network connection (and optimize them!)
before worrying too much about processors.

        Of course, if you are doing something like simulating nuclear 
explosions, go right ahead and throw everything into CPUs.  But if that's
your situation, I'd recommend an HP Superdome, Sun E10k, IBM RS/6000 SP, or 
SGI Origin 3000 before anything Intel-based!

> In Linux, can you
> specify which processes run on which processesor? Or is it automatic? Is
> there really a benifit?

        In general, no, you cannot bind a process to a processor.  Linux
has "soft processor affinity" by default, which simply means that the 
scheduler attempts to run a process on the cpu which last ran that process.
There are some experimental attempts at creating processor sets and explicit
binding - see http://www.hp.com/go/prm for one - but nothing in the standard
kernel tree.

JDW



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron B. Hockley)
Subject: Problem compliing quanta 2.0beta4
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:32:00 GMT

I did a clean install of a Mandrake 7.2 system a couple days ago.

I've upgraded to KDE 2.1 beta 2 and it's running without problems.

I'm trying to compile Quanta 2.0 beta 4.

The configure script runs without complaining, but when I run make it
churns along for a while then ends with the following error:

/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpng

I assume this is related to libpng, which I have installed. (version
1.08 I believe)

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Aaron
-- 
If guns cause violence, matches cause arson.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Identify a WinModem??
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:42:10 -0600

Hi,

I have a couple of ISA and PCI 56K modems made by 3COM/US Robotics.
They came with the PCs I bought.  I have heard that WinModems are 
not supported by Linux.  But how could I tell that whether these 
modems are WinModems?  Thanks in advance for your help,

Terry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.programmer
Subject: mp3 statistical analysis
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:29:35 GMT



has someone written a program that allows me to determine such simple
statistics as the maximal and average volume level of an mp3 file?

Is this easy or hard?

/iaw


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From: Alain Lafrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: modprobe not working in 2.4
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 11:40:04 -0500

Mark Bratcher wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeff Pierce wrote:
> >I upgraded to 2.4 from 2.2.16 mainly for USB to play with.
> >I build kernel, USB as modules, and so on.
> >Get modutils-2.4.1, configure build and install.
> >Now I boot 2.4, no problems except for can't locate modules ppp, slip.
> >I try to modprobe usbcore which gives me the 'can't locate module'
> >error. Huh, its there under /lib/modules/2.4/kernel/usb.
> >Ok, I try insmod usbcore and it LOADS. A lsmod lists it.
> >Ok, I do a which and find I am using /sbin/modprobe with the right date,
> >which is a soft link to insmod. I rm modprobe, execute it and get the
> >'no command found'. Good, no other modprobe. I then relink modprobe to
> >insmod and it still FAILS!!!! ofcourse after rmmod usbcore.
> >
> >So what is the difference in running insmod, which works, and modprobe,
> >which is a link to insmod, and it fails to locate the module?
> >In fact, why is there a  modprobe command if it is just insmod?
> >
> >--
> >Jeff Pierce
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://pages.preferred.com/~piercej
> >
>
> Jeff,
>
> I went through this, too. If you check the Changes.txt for 2.4,
> you'll find that you also have to upgrade the ppp stuff.
>
> --
> Mark Bratcher
> To reply, remove _UNSPAM from my email address
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

Hi,

    Sorry for my english, i m french.
/lib/modules/2.4.1/kernel/drivers/net
        You could modify your rc.module to "/sbin/modprobe ppp"  for
"/sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.1/kernel/drivers/net/ppp.o" until they fix
the probleme with the map to look for module.

    For me it work just fine with slackware 7.1 upgrade the kernel to 2.4.1
and modutils 2.4.1.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 8 Feb 2001 16:59:37 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

|> False premise.  I'm a registered LIBERTARIAN, asshole.

Ooooh, We're in the presense of a master debater.

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===============================================================
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 glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big 
 as it needs to be.

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From: Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp and proxy ?
Date: 8 Feb 2001 17:03:25 GMT

Sven Heinecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I try to download files using the ftp command via a proxy server:
> ftp>proxy
> (command) open proxy-url port
> connected to proxy-url

> At this point I don't get a prompt. How can I connect to the second ftp
> server that has the file I'm trying to download?

        Well, something else is wrong, because you should get a prompt.
BTW, are you sure that you need to use proxy mode?  It's really for 
transferring stuff from host A to host B when you're on host C; if you want
to get stuff to your host, there's no need to use it.  If you're behind a
firewall or something, then chances are that that's not the kind of proxy
you need.

JDW



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From: Aitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: File System questions -- please help.
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:10:00 GMT

You can mount Windows partition from Linux with read/write permission.

Write me if you are not lucky

Aitor
http://w3.to/travellers

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 15:28:53 -0600, Vijaya Chandran
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi Group,
>
> I downloaded some freeware for linux (like Star Office etc), using a
>Windows PC and saved them in the Windows 98 file system. Now, I have to
>use these files to install the software in  Linux 7.0. Is is possible to
>use these files directly to install them in Linux 7.0 ? Will there be
>any file system conflicts involved ?
>
>Thanks,
>Vijay.


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From: Charlie Zender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sshd does not seem to autostart in RH7 runlevel 3
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 09:14:36 -0800

Hi,

Being a security conscious fashion terrorist, I installed the whole
openssh deal on my Intel RedHat GNU/Linux 7 system. I set sshd to
start in runlevels 2,3,4,5 using the runlevel editor of the control
panel. The problem is that whenever my system reboots, sshd does
not appear to start automatically. If I log in, and then simply
run sshd as root, then it will stay up fine, but it does not seem
to start by itself. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Thanks,
Charlie
-- 
Charlie Zender [EMAIL PROTECTED] (949) 824-2987/FAX-3256, Department of
Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100


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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Optimize for Speed?
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:24:30 GMT


"Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:_Tug6.139$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> Compiling applications from scratch should make them faster.
> compile a  new kernel, with only the options you need...
> see that only the services you require are running..

If you're going to get into compiling things anew, you'll get the most "bang
for the buck" by compiling things like your QT libraries and others that
support your X apps.  You may actually notice the difference, where with
other stuff the improvements are more marginal.  Marginal improvements do
add up, but it's an awful lot of work to compile everything.  This is for
the obsessed rather than the results-oriented.

> And.. getting some more ram should help pretty much

Yes it will.

Matt O.




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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:29:41 +0100

Johan Kullstam wrote:
> 
> Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 

> > >
> > > One simple question: If God doesn't need a creator, then why does the
> > > Universe need one?
> > >
> >
> > Sorry for budding in, but isn't that merely shifting the problem?
> 
> no, it's *un*-shifting the problem.
> 
See below for my reaction.

> > Aren't you essentially turning the universe into a non-created
> > entity?
> 
> as something without a creator, sure.
> 
OK. So where did it come from then?

> > And if not, could you explain - in a clear and non-ambiguous way (*) -
> > how the universe came into being?
> 
> only if you can explain -- in a clear and non-ambiguous way -- how god
> came into being.  invoking a creator of the universe adds complexity.
> 
A religeous person does not need to explain the origin of God (and he
will freely admit that he can't). It seems to me you are simply
replacing the term "God" with "Universe" (I noticed you even write it
with a capital) which, more than anything else, would typecast you as
a religeous person.

> > (*) I can't help but noticing that the more cosmology advances, the
> > more its publications begin to resemble Genesis (there should really
> > be a smiley here, but then again...).
> 
> only in a very superficial way.
> 
Hmmm....


-- 
Regards,

Karel Jansens
==============================
"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
==============================

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From: Mint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: writing hello world in linux
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:30:02 -0000

I have installed redhat linux 6.1 and am trying to write hello world c 
program.

I have never done c programing and I am only just learning linux so am a 
serious amateur.

please help.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: File System questions -- please help.
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:37:15 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aitor wrote:
>You can mount Windows partition from Linux with read/write permission.
>
>Write me if you are not lucky
>
>Aitor
>http://w3.to/travellers
>
>On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 15:28:53 -0600, Vijaya Chandran
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Hi Group,
>>
>> I downloaded some freeware for linux (like Star Office etc), using a
>>Windows PC and saved them in the Windows 98 file system. Now, I have to
>>use these files to install the software in  Linux 7.0. Is is possible to
>>use these files directly to install them in Linux 7.0 ? Will there be
>>any file system conflicts involved ?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Vijay.
>

Mount the Windows drive as a vfat file system and you can access it fine.
You will need to make sure vfat support is built into your kernel.


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Director of Software and Electrical Engineering
Torrey Pines Research
To reply, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
===========================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Subject: Re: sshd does not seem to autostart in RH7 runlevel 3
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:40:01 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charlie Zender wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Being a security conscious fashion terrorist, I installed the whole
>openssh deal on my Intel RedHat GNU/Linux 7 system. I set sshd to
>start in runlevels 2,3,4,5 using the runlevel editor of the control
>panel. The problem is that whenever my system reboots, sshd does
>not appear to start automatically. If I log in, and then simply
>run sshd as root, then it will stay up fine, but it does not seem
>to start by itself. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
>
>Thanks,
>Charlie
>-- 
>Charlie Zender [EMAIL PROTECTED] (949) 824-2987/FAX-3256, Department of
>Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100
>

Charlie,

I usually do these by hand.
If SSH installed properly, there should be some files under
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d and ../rc5.d that look like KXXsshd or KXXsshd2.
If these exist, then just renamen them to replace the 'K' with an
'S'. These are symbolic links to /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd2 script.

-- 
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Director of Software and Electrical Engineering
Torrey Pines Research
To reply, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
===========================================================
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From: milanuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: remote distribution (rdist) or a better tool?
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:37:29 GMT

In article <95tnsu$a0a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have an increasing number of Redhat systems to maintain.
> Is there a tool that allows to issue commands on a number of computers
> simultaneously, e.g. doing a crontab -e on all machines
> in a group without having to login into every machine and doing
> the commands by hand?
>
> --
> Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

I haven't used it myself yet (not far enough along) but cfengine may be
right up your alley.

Monte

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From: milanuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cloning Linux Drives
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:49:49 GMT

Well, here's my $0.02 worth, taken from the Debian User's Guide:

Large-Scale Copying

tar -cSpf - /usr/local | tar -xvSpf - -C /destination
The first tar command will archive the existing directory and pipe it
to the second. The second command will unpack the archive into the
location you specify with -C.


I'm not sure how well it would work whole disk cloning; I think dd
would perhaps be better for that.  Alternately, there are packages out
for Debian called 'fai' (fully automated install) and 'replicator'
which are aimed (especially replicatory) directly at just what you are
asking:  Installing basically the same software and configuration on a
whole bunch of computers that have very similar, but not quite
_identical_ hardware.

HTH,

Monte

--
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are the ones who learn by reading.  Then there are
the few who learn by observation.  The rest just
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From: "Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RH 7.1 beta, USB tape drive and software
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:07:38 -0500

Hi,

I have a Compaq EP with RedHat 7.1 beta (2.4 kernel) and a Seagate USB tape
drive.  The system does recognize theF reecom hub and drive (/dev/st0) and
it shows up in the usbview utility.  All I need is some software or utility
that can write to the drive.  I've attempted to use taper and Amanda with no
success.  Has anyone tried BRU with this compbination?  I'll buy it if I
need to.  I just want to know if there's a simple 'cpio' script that I can
use.

BTW, the linux-usb (http://www.linux-usb.org) web site offers no help when
trying to install usb tape drives.  I find this odd since usb can be used
with so many devices. oh well...

Thanks in advance,

Nathan






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