Linux-Misc Digest #113, Volume #20 Sat, 8 May 99 16:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (david parsons)
Re: Serious Redhat 6.0 Problems (Damien Clark)
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage (William Burrow)
Re: problem with grepping
Re: tar ("D. Vrabel")
cpio and multivolume restore ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
(Alexander Viro)
Display problem in KDE /X-Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
make your first $1 million (Mr Wong)
Re: How to determine IRQ's ("D. Vrabel")
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact mgr with
backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend) ("Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren")
RealPlayer plugin in 2.2 Kernel (mike)
Suse 6.1 and kde 1.1.1 (Efi Merdler)
Auto-update RPMs? (Mark Robinson)
Re: How can X be so slow? (Donn Miller)
Re: Multithreaded Q3Test? (Alan Fang)
Strange GNU behaviour using template classes (Hajue)
Re: DVD movies on Linux ? (David L. Bilbey)
Re: How can X be so slow? (Peter T. Breuer)
Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network? ("An Bui")
Re: .inputrc not read in Redhat-6.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux partition not recognized? (nails)
Problems with Acroread 3 and 4 (Florian Rupp)
Re: URGENT. Dead or life. (Peter T. Breuer)
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From: o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s (david parsons)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?
Date: 8 May 1999 00:16:55 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jesus Monroy, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In short, as I see it two (2) release will be needed to
> accomplish any type of 'marketing' success. Both releases
> must have the ablity to walk up to a machine and just
> use it NO password with NO su issues whatsoever.
It's been done, repeatedly.
I occasionally do it with laptops, controllers, and other
closely controlled things. Unfortunately the FreeBSD box
where I did it remains at a former employer who has probably
already erased it and put Windows 98 onto the machine, but
the Linux code still exists; Linux uses inittab, so the
inittab lines look like
c6:2345:respawn:/sbin/plugh -l root tty6 VC linux
And there's _always_ a shell prompt waiting on tty6.
Break security? Oh, you betcha -- once someone has
walked off with my laptop, the little login: prompt
doesn't matter anymore, so why inconvenience myself
for the sake of forcing a thief to, umm, fence the
laptop without playing rogue?
____
david parsons \bi/ I [heart] Unix; it lets you dress it anyway you want.
\/
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Subject: Re: Serious Redhat 6.0 Problems
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damien Clark)
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 15:40:36 GMT
Can you give a little more information.
What is your hardware, ie Processor, motherboard, ramsize, etc..
Does any other OS run on your system, ie win9x, dos without locking up?
you said that your rh5.2 worked fine before your upgrade. r u sure u didnt
make any hardware changes recently?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>Here's a little story about my attempt to install Redhat 6.0
>
>I first install the program and the installation went smooth. I then
>logged in as root and tried to start my XServer, but all I got was a
>black screen and a lockup. I rebooted, but the system locked up when it
>tried to start syslog.
>
>I installed it again (formatted the partitions) but the result was the
>same, but this time syslog locked up the system first time i booted.
>
>Installed it again, but left out syslog. This time Samba locked up the
>system.
>
>Tried again without any of these two, and now i managed to get to the
>login screen. Logged in as root and tried to start Midnight Commander.
>Nothing happened. I tried to start a lot of programs, but on one would
>run (nothing happened when I typed the program name). I was still able
>to use C-c to break out when a program wouldn't run. Then I tried
>starting the X-server and the system locked up completely.
>
>What's going on here ??? I have used Redhat 5.2 for some time on the
>same system, and it worked just fine. Have anyone tried anyting like
>this, and/or does anyone know what might be going on ???
>
>Please help (but please don't post reply's just to say: "Strange, but my
>Redhat 6.0 works fine")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Date: 8 May 1999 17:30:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6 May 1999 17:56:39 GMT,
brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I think your time would be better spent on dealing with real privacy
>issues, such as WebTV's reporting of TV viewing habits and what
>Microsoft (owners of WebTV, after all) will do if they manage to get
>WinCE into cable boxes.
WinCE is going into cable boxes, AT&T is all buddy-buddy with MS now.
--
William Burrow
Copyright 1999 William Burrow
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: problem with grepping
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 08:14:39 GMT
On Sat, 8 May 1999 01:41:09 -0400, Steve Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi --
<snip>
>faq, but no luck.) My system is an AMD k6-200 with 128 megs of ram (although
>linux only detects 64 megs -- I tried loading with MEM=128 at the lilo
<snip>
>-- Steve
Do mem=128M not MEM=128
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:03:58 +0100
On Sat, 8 May 1999, christophe wrote:
> Ryan Green wrote:
>
> > Can somebody please tell me how to unzip programs compressed inside
> > tar.gz files??
It is not the files in the (so-called) tarball that are compressed but the
tarball itself.
>
> just type :
> gzip -d your_file.tar.gz
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: cpio and multivolume restore
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 08:47:07 GMT
cpio 2.4.2, kernel 2.0.33, scsi tape, aha152x.
I can do a multivolume backup on a scsi tape: at the end of the 1st tape I'm
asked for the 2nd one and the backup completes regularly.
When I try to restore the backup it stops at the end of the 1st tape with the
error:
read IO error
I read a message from the st driver author, Kai Makisara, in which he says
this is a known problem with the st driver included in the 2.0.x series
kernels, and that it was fixed in 2.1.x.
I tried restoring the backup using kernel 2.2.4. At the end of the 1st tape
it asks for the 2nd tape (ok, no error), but when it is at few hundres bytes
from the end it asks me a 3rd tape which I have not because the backup took 2
tapes.
Has someone managed in restore a cpio multivolume backup (scsi tape)?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
Date: 8 May 1999 10:30:02 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>But: look at where the most effort is directed to in both Linux and
>FreeBSD.
>
>In Linux, lots is happening on the desktop, easy-to-use sysadm tools
>etc. Other Unices such as FreeBSD may profit a bit from that.
Darn... *It* *is* *not* *a* *Linux* *development*. *Linux* *is*
*kernel*. *Kernel* *team* *is* *separate* *from* *distribution* *teams*.
>Otoh I don't see much development in the kernel anymore. Look at the
>very very slow pace of Linux kernel development at the moment. I
>browsed a bit through linux-2.2.5,6,7 recently, and really not much is
>happening and a lot is old.
What? Excuse me, does the word -STABLE say anything to you? No?
>FreeBSD in contrast is very alive w.r.t. more fundamental
>developments. It used to lag behind Linux until maybe a year ago (and
>still does in some areas such as laptop support) but has caught up in
>many parts. Amount of hardware drivers is almost the same now, and
>FreeBSD does have beginning of USB (still 100% missing in Linux), does
>have the same level of ISDN support, has new concept for busses, in
>-current very efficient ATA (disk driver) support is coming up,
>softupdates (i.e. modern better performing filesystem), SMP is
>starting to be better than Linux's.
Funny... Kernel == bunch'o'drivers for you, right? Let's see...
You've missed VM and scheduler development. You've missed (ahem) VFS
audit and cleanup and the tiny detail that Linux VFS + filesystems
are largely race-free now (*much* more than FreeBSD ones). You've missed
the tiny detail - there is a lot of code waiting for -CURRENT opening
(i.e. for 2.3 series). Yup, in VFS and filesystems. USB? Dunno...
Something called drivers/usb/* appeared in 2.2.7. Didn't play with that
code, so no comments... New ATA driver? Gee... What a coincidence...
In testing right now, going to be included in 2.2.[89]. You've missed
knfsd development, yodda, yodda...
>Linux seems to come to a grinding halt in these areas, probably also
>because of the horribly inefficient and confusing development process.
Oh, really? Funny, I don't have such impression. Maybe because I'm
actually looking at the things that happen instead of "browsing" (thanks
for not saying "surfing"). And please, learn the fscking difference between
-STABLE and -CURRENT.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Display problem in KDE /X-Windows
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 15:42:32 GMT
Hello! I am a Linux newbie and I just made my first steps in KDE. My problem
is, that the Desktop is 4times larger than my screen. This means I always
have to scroll over the whole Desktop. I don't want this. Where and how can I
change this? Thanks for your help.
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to determine IRQ's
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:21:51 +0100
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Jason Bond wrote:
> Is there a program that shows which IRQ's are assigned to which
> devices? Thanks,
cat /proc/interrupts
I thinks it here... Have a poke around and see what else you can find.
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: "Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact
mgr with backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend)
Date: 08 May 1999 20:47:10 +0200
[ Bill Gunshannon
| Actually, the term he is looking for is "non sequitor".
"non sequitur", surely?
--
Rolf Lindgren http://www.uio.no/~roffe/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RealPlayer plugin in 2.2 Kernel
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 14:46:30 GMT
Hi,
Has anyone had any luck getting the
RealPlayer plugin for Netscape to
work with the 2.2 kernel? I've been
able to apply the fix and get the
player working but no luck with
Plugin. Could there be an
alternative plugin to view real
audio/video?
Thanks
Mike
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From: Efi Merdler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Suse 6.1 and kde 1.1.1
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 18:50:45 GMT
Hi
I would like to know if it is possible to upgrade my system using a rpm
designed for Redhat 6.
Thank you
--
========================================================================
"You do not have to be smart in order to think"
Efi Merdler 1999 AD
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From: Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Auto-update RPMs?
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 15:05:42 GMT
Is there a program/script that will go out and update my RPMs? Please
no comments about deb
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can X be so slow?
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:17:15 -0400
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Mattias Dahlberg wrote:
> > It goes very fast, but then I also have a 400MHZ machine with 512MB of ram.
>
> Well, I have 450MHz and it crawls...
X runs pretty fast on my P166 MMX w/ 64 MB RAM. What window manager are
you running, and do you have `acceleration' turned on in the server?
Donn
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From: Alan Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multithreaded Q3Test?
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 10:24:44 -0700
John Carmack has said at some point that there won't be a SMP version of
Quake3. The only SMP-ing you could probably do is run the server on one
processor and the client on another. Dunno how to do that, though.
ACF
To reply, change the jc in the email addr to js.
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From: Hajue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Strange GNU behaviour using template classes
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:57:06 GMT
// Problem: GNU C++ 2.8.1 (DOS Version, Linux ???)
//
// produces a compiler error at line commented as "danger 1".
// Commenting "danger 1" AND "danger 2" out compiles without errors
// but should produce a "protected member" error.
// It only does this when "danger 2" is active, and test() is instanciated
//
// Who knows what's going wrong here ???
// How can i make Class_2 to be friend of Class_1 ?
// Declare member variable z public would be a dirty solution.
// VC++ compiles this without errors
//
// Thanks in advance,
// Hajue
template<class X>
class Class_1
{
friend class Class_2<X>; // danger 1
protected:
int z;
};
template<class X>
class Class_2
{
Class_1<X> c1;
public:
void test() { c1.z = 0; }
};
main()
{
Class_2<int> c2;
c2.test(); // danger 2
}
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From: David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: DVD movies on Linux ?
Date: 3 May 1999 16:44:14 GMT
In comp.os.linux.x Robert Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: This may be a little off topic and I don't want to start a flame war,
: but I am curious. Why would someone want to watch a movie on a desktop
: computer? I have never understood this. The comfort factor would be my
: biggest objection. Then again, if you have a 36 inch monitor and your
: desktop is a studio screening setup...
: Bob Brashear
If you've got a video card with tv-out, then why waste money on a $300-400
DVD player, when the one in your computer will do the job?
--
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does that affect my nickname now, which is `The Lawn-Cutting Machine'?"
--Jack Handey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Subject: Re: How can X be so slow?
Date: 8 May 1999 19:40:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mattias Dahlberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: At work X is nice and fast. ATI Rage Pro AGP using the Mach64 server on a
: PII350.
: At home X is painfully slow. Intel i740 AGP using the XFCom_i740 server on a
: PII450.
: I use the same resolution and color depth on both machines.
: In other words, on a faster graphics card X is slower, and I mean *slower*.
: Please explain to me why.
Probably because you're trying to use an i740 at 24bpp and 1024x768.
Don't. Use 16bpp, like its "designers" intended. Try it and see.
: Matt
--
Peter
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From: "An Bui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network?
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 07:52:34 -0400
hi all
I just download the VNC. i try the Viewer and they ask for host:display
for host i type in my host like my IP but display what number should i put
down. can someplease give me a brief explain for this. I am a very new
with linux.
olivier
Ursa_M wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
|
|
|
|> Timothy Litwiller wrote:
|>
|> > yes, please send an URL
|> >
|> > Eugene VonNiederhausern wrote:
|> >
|> > > Cyrus Mehta wrote:
|> > >
|> > > > Hi,
|> > > >
|> > > > I am creating a dual Windows/Linux environment using Samba for file
serving
|> > > > on a standard Ethernet network. I was wondering what kind of X
server software
|> > > > for the Windows side I could use to run some X windows apps off of
the LInux Box.
|> > > >
|> > > > Reliability is the most important factor, windows will crash often
enough without
|> > > > the help of the X server.
|> > > >
|> > > > Any ideas?
|> > > >
|> > > > CKM
|> > >
|> > > Yesterday, I found the best X server/viewer for windows (and linux)
that I have
|> > > seen yet and it is free (GNU Public License). It is called VNC from
Olivetti and
|> > > Oracle research laboratory. You can connect from linux->windows,
windows->linux,
|> > > linux->linux, windows->windows. It is a lot better than any of the
other products
|> > > I have seen ot this kind. I don't have the URL (it is at work) you
can email me or
|> > > post a reply and I will get it and reply.
|>
|> The URL is http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ . Let me know what you
think...
|
|Ursa_M --> I am also using the VNC server and find it to be very reliable
and generally
|excellent. The install was easy. I tend to launch and kill the server
from a hyperterminal
|window via telnet and then sign onto the VNC X windows. VNC is persistent.
Unless you kill
|the session, the next time you login you will be EXACTLY where you were
when you closed the
|window. Server sessions can be conveniently killed from a command line,
telnet or direct,
|to keep that from being a problem. On the other hand, if you had multiple
devices going and
|wanted to keep an X windows session up while you moved from device to
device then this is a
|"feature" you would like. Personally, I haven't had a use for that yet so
just kill the
|session before I shut down my Win98 machine. VNC has never caused a hiccup
on either the
|Win98 or Linux side and is a very thin client on the Win98 side.
|
|Take care,
|
|Ursa_M
|
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: .inputrc not read in Redhat-6.0
Date: 8 May 1999 11:58:05 GMT
Michael Keightley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Has anyone else noticed that ~/.inputrc isn't read by programs that
: use readline, e.g. bash in Readhat-6.0?
: Is this a know bug, or is it just me?
There must be some line in /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc like
export INPUTRC="/etc/inputrc"
change this to
if [ ! -e ~/.inputrc ]; then
export INPUTRC="/etc/inputrc"
fi
Cheers,
Nils
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nails)
Subject: Linux partition not recognized?
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 11:06:00 GMT
I installed linux on my hard drive, then i tried to reduce my windows
partition using partition magic which then very kindly "hung" mid way
through! I then decided to use my hard drive for Linux only(2gigs) as
i could not access windows at all!
I then added another hard drive (4gigs) and installed windows 95 as a
primary drive leaving my original hard drive as a slave with linux
installed.
The problem i now have is that my primary (windows) doesn`t recognize
that the slave drive exists!
When installing linux after the "big hang" i formatted the entire hard
drive as a linux partition!!
Can anyone help me with this one??
please feel free to e-mail me direct, any help would be much
appreciated!!!!!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Florian Rupp)
Subject: Problems with Acroread 3 and 4
Date: 8 May 1999 20:59:32 +0100
Hello from Aachen,
I trying to use Acrobat Reader 3.0 or 4.0beta. My operation system
is SuSE Linux 6.1 (glibc).
Unfortunately, acroread produces the following output on startup:
Warning: Unmatched quotation marks in string <garbage deleted>,
any remaining fonts in list unparsed
Warning: Unmatched quotation marks in string <garbage deleted>,
any remaining fonts in list unparsed
After startup, several segmentation faults occur. The output
is a mess of mixed colors and letters.
Does anyone know a solution ?
Cu
Florian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: URGENT. Dead or life.
Date: 8 May 1999 15:53:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nuno Donato ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: This is a dead or life situation.
Life or death? There is no need to be so dramatic.
: I am going to explain what happened to me, because I REALLY need help.
: I have changed a file, that contains info about the window-managers.
OK.
: Now, every time i run linux, XDM autostarts, i enter the username(root
You mean, you set it up that way before, and now it DOESN'T start -
it crashes, then init or rc.4 or whatever restarts it, etc.
: is the only user), and the password. But there must be an error some
Well, change that at once then! What's the point of only having
as a user an account that you don't want to use?
: whera, because, no window manager run.
: And I am taken again to enter the name and password.
What do you mean? You mean you get a login prompt and NOT an xdm screen.
But you said you got an xdm?
: How can I solve this. If i haven't XDM enabled, I could edit the file
: again from the console.
But you can. You must have a console on say screen 6 (ctl-alt-F6),
Anyway, why bother. Just boot in a non-X runlevel. At the lilo prompt give a
number like 2 or 3 (it depends on the dist). e.g.
linux 3
To go to runlevel 3 (non X) instead of 4 (X). Use
linux s
for full singleuser mode.
: My second question is, how can I turn off LILO?
Why would you want to? To erase it, read the manual or do fdisk /mbr, or lilo
-u, or whatever suits best.
: Please I really need help.
I think you need to read a few faqs ...
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Peter
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