Linux-Misc Digest #113, Volume #25               Wed, 12 Jul 00 06:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Interesting behavior of LILO (Villy Kruse)
  Re: Kernel too big (Villy Kruse)
  Re: removing programs in Linux ("Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
  Re: Printing to Jetdirect (Villy Kruse)
  Re: linux:Unresolved symbol using 'insmod sg' (Eric)
  Re: short question (for a change) (Eric)
  Re: Interesting behavior of LILO (Eric)
  Re: magicdev? (Eric)
  Boot with a default account? (Francesc Modesto)
  Re: CDrecord ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Yes! Another GNU tar question ("Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
  Re: Can anyone help me out? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: small script (druuna)
  Re: dd (John Todd)
  IP aliasing to a different network (Lilia Vogt)
  Re: IP aliasing to a different network (Akira Yamanita)
  Re: IP aliasing to a different network (Lilia Vogt)
  Re: Consequences of a new kernel (Mike Willet [8019899])
  Re: HELP - RAID (Max TenEyck Woodbury)
  Re: small script (Koos Pol)
  conf.modules & modules.conf ("Andrew Ellington")
  NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 12 July 2000 Meeting of GNU/Linux/FreeOS Beginners Group 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: kernel modules not loaded RH6.2 (Hans Groeneveld)
  Re: WordPerfect 8 for Linux won't install under SuSE 6.4 (gLiTcH)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Interesting behavior of LILO
Date: 12 Jul 2000 07:13:24 GMT

On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:18:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am using LILO v0.21. I've found an interesting behavior.
>I have only one hard disk and the partitions are:
>
>   hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 >
>
>Linux is installed in hda5. If I install the LILO boot
>loader into hda2 and set hda2 as the active partition,
>it hangs at "LI" when booting. But if I install the loader
>into the MBR, it works fine.
>
>Can anyone explain why the location of the LILO boot
>loader can make such a difference? Note that the kernel
>itself is in hda5.
>
>


Cant explain it; have done it too; and it works.

Install lilo into hda2 and make hda2 the active partition.

Install the MS MBR loader into the MBR sector by doing fdisk /mbr
while running MSDOS.

I tend, though, to prefer to make a 1 cylinder linux partition as
a primary partition and put the rest of linux into the extended
partition.  This would look like:


   hda1 hda2 hda3 < hda5 hda6 >

The hda2 should then be native linux type and contain the /boot file
system.  The active partition should then be hda2.

Villy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Kernel too big
Date: 12 Jul 2000 07:21:11 GMT

On 11 Jul 2000 20:22:48 GMT, brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 03:04:43 GMT, 
> Victor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ooh, I see. So the problem is with the compression routines that zImage
>> uses? Ok. bzImage suits me just fine as well, I was just curious why it
>> failed. They should update the output make menuconfig makes because the
>> instruction it gave was make zImage.
>
>No, it's not the compression.  ('bzImage' means 'Big zImage', and has
>nothing to do with 'bzip2'.)
>
>It has to do with the way the memory map of an x86 CPU is at boot.
>That fancy new 800MHz P3 still boots up the same as a 4.77Mhz 8088 for
>"compatibility" reasons.  The 'zImage' uncompresses the kernel into "low
>memory" (ie, < 640k), the 'bzImage' uncompresses it into "high memory"
>(ie, > 1M).  [The area between 640k and 1M is used by your video card,
>the BIOS, any bios 'extensions' like SCSI controllers, etc.]
>


Just an ajustment to this description.  The bzimage is loaded chunk by
chink into low memory and moved to high memory.  While running the loader
in real mode the high memory is not accessible, but there is a bios call
which can move chunks of bytes from low to high memory.  Once the bzimage
is fully loaded the loader switches into protected mode and now it has
access to all installed memory.  The problem this solves is that even
the compressed kernel dos not fit into low memory int its entirety.



Villy

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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: removing programs in Linux
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:14:23 +0100

E J wrote:
> 
> $ rpm -qi apache

Hi,

This won't work as the apach installation was 'upgraded to 1.3.12 using
the source package' which to my reading of it means a tarball. This was
a mistake as the control of the installed package has now been lost.

The benefits of the package management provided by rpm exceed the
'advantages' of latest code IMHO.

> beo wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Currently, I have apache 1.3.10 installed in my SuSE 6.2; however, I
> > upgraded to 1.3.12 using the source package. And my question is how do I
> > know whether my 1.3.12 has overwritten the 1.3.10 or not? Also, since Apache
> > has many different files in many directories, how can I remove the Apache
> > program in linux? Do I need to go in every direcotries to remove the
> > individual files? Thanks!!

If the system was still under control of rpm then rpm -e apache would
uninstall apache...

Get your upgrades to SuSE from Rufus (http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM)

Regards

Phil Q

-- 

Phil Quiney                             CSIP Demonstrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]              Nortel Networks,
Telephone: +44 (1279) 402363            London Rd, Harlow,
Fax:       +44 (1279) 402885            Essex CM17 9NA,
                                        United Kingdom.

"This message may contain information proprietary to Northern 
Telecom so any unauthorised disclosure, copying or distribution
of its contents is strictly prohibited."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Printing to Jetdirect
Date: 12 Jul 2000 07:27:52 GMT

On 11 Jul 2000 20:47:02 GMT,
        Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> This should be simple: printing to an HP Laserjet 5 on a jetdirect
>> device.  I'm familiar with linux but haven't done much printing before.
>
>> My linux machine and the HP Jetdirect are on the same subnet.  I'm using
>> RedHat 6.2's printtool and selecting "Direct to port printer".  I give
>> it the IP address of the JetDirect with port 9100, and select Laserjet
>> 4/5/6 for the input filter.
>
>Try setting it up as a "Remote Unix (lpd) Queue" instead.
>



That would work, I've seen it work.  The only problem is that you can't
query the print status, as by doing that the software will also query
the jetdirect box for its print status.  If the box is busy it is not
able to respond to any status request on the lpd port.  The lpd port
is 515/tcp aka. 'printer' according to /etc/services.


Villy

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux:Unresolved symbol using 'insmod sg'
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:35:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Carlos Villegas wrote:
> 
> I am soooo SORRY about the "crossposting".
> 
> Someone please explain to me how to NOT do it again. I don't want to keep
> making this mistake.

Ehh, just don't enter the names of irrelevant newsgroups?
And if you're not sure what NG to post to, choose just a few (few=2) and
set a follow-up to those NG's

So, I stripped two and set the follow-ups for you!

Eric

> Sorry gentlemen, and ladies.
> 
> Carlos :)

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: short question (for a change)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:43:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

alan wrote:
> 
> Yes hello there,
> 
> Functionally, why does apache have dir's 'etc/httpd/modules' and
> 'usr/lib/apache', as the contents seem to be identical?? In fact, making an
> entry in one seems to create an entry in the other.
> 
> -Alan
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/


Don't know apache but this just sounds like one directory is a link to
the other, try `ls -l usr/lib/apache etc/httpd/modules`
and read the manpage of ln

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Interesting behavior of LILO
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:58:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am using LILO v0.21. I've found an interesting behavior.
> I have only one hard disk and the partitions are:
> 
>    hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 >
> 
> Linux is installed in hda5. If I install the LILO boot
> loader into hda2 and set hda2 as the active partition,
> it hangs at "LI" when booting. But if I install the loader
> into the MBR, it works fine.
> 
> Can anyone explain why the location of the LILO boot
> loader can make such a difference? Note that the kernel
> itself is in hda5.
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

I wonder, since hda2 is just a container, have you tried installing lilo
in /dev/hda5 instead of /dev/hda2?

I don't see how it should make any difference though, on where you put
lilo.
You just need to put it in the correct place.

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: magicdev?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:50:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

David Wall wrote:
> 
> What's /usr/bin/magicdev?  No man pages on it.  I saw it running rather high
> utilization on my box and I killed it and nothing "bad" happened.  What does
> it do?
> 
> Thanks,
> David
IIRC it's a automatic disc detection (put in a cdrom, and it'll be
automounted) Ohhh...         8-0  
You don't need it.

Eric

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From: Francesc Modesto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Boot with a default account?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 07:39:34 GMT

Hi people:

    Someone knows how to configure Linux for start automatly with a
X-Window without introduce the Login and password and with a normal user
account (kiosk) not root.

    I've got all Linux configure with kiosk and I need only the
information for tell RH6.2 that boot with an kiosk account.

    Thanks


Sorry but I don't speak English well.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CDrecord
Date: 12 Jul 2000 03:46:01 -0400

Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't get this.  I've recompiled my kernel (RH 6.0) to support SCSI-IDE
> emulation for a CD burner.  According to dmesg, it seems to have worked.
> The bootup message says the emulator is running and it says it's detected my
> Ricoh burner as a SCSI CD-ROM device.  In fact, it says so 8 times, refering
> to it as sr0 through sr7.

> So why is that when I run "cdrecord -scanbus" I get an error message saying
> "cdrecord: No such file or directory.  Cannot open SCSI driver."?  What am I
> doing wrong?  Thanks.

And ... the generic scsi driver and (probably) vendor specific extensions
enabled (and SCSI-CDrom support if you want to be able to read with the
drive)?

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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yes! Another GNU tar question
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:32:51 +0100

Krzys Majewski wrote:
> 
> OK check this one out... -chris
> 
> 22:18:57</># tar cf zip/home.joanne.tar home/joanne/ --exclude=home/joanne/
Hi,
according to the man page the --exclude option expects a filename not a
path. Also you told tar to start in a directory below the current one so
even if it worked only the files in home/joanne/home/joanne would be
excluded

The following will work - assuming the intention was to exclude 'joanne'
from the archive

cd /home
tar -cf zip/home_dirs.tar --exclude=joanne *

Note you can specify a file of files to ignore with the --exclude-from
option.

Regards

Phil Q

-- 

Phil Quiney                             CSIP Demonstrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]              Nortel Networks,
Telephone: +44 (1279) 402363            London Rd, Harlow,
Fax:       +44 (1279) 402885            Essex CM17 9NA,
                                        United Kingdom.

"This message may contain information proprietary to Northern 
Telecom so any unauthorised disclosure, copying or distribution
of its contents is strictly prohibited."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can anyone help me out?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 07:38:10 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Philip Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Look in /etc/inetd.conf there should be a line like:
> ftp    stream    tcp    nowait    root    /usr/sbin/tcpd    in.ftpd -l
> -a
>                                   ^^^^
> Here is where it tells inetd what user to run the ftp deamon under.

That's the first place I checked. No prob there...
Thanx anyway,
Ammar


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (druuna)
Subject: Re: small script
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 07:37:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi there

>| I would like to write a small script file which would do the following :
>| count the number of files in a directory,
>| keep the 10 most recent and delete the others.

>$SOMEDIR=/usr/local/test
>mkdir keep
>ls -Atr $SOMEDIR | tail -10 | while read f; do mv $SOMEDIR/$f keep; done
>rm $SOMEDIR/*
>mv keep/* $SOMEDIR
>rmdir keep


>Note 1: This code is tested here and works. YMMV
>Note 2: Does not discriminate between files and directories
>Note 3: You better make sure $SOMEDIR exists.

Although this script is small it could be improved:

- 'dot' files are not taken into account,
- the 'dir' problem (Note 2),
- although this is a Linux group: ls -A doesn't work on a SV-R4 os.

The "improved" script:


#!/sbin/ksh

SOMEDIR="/usr/local/test"

SAVETEMP="/whatever/Keep"

ls -latr $SOMEDIR | grep -v "^d" | tail -10 | awk '{ print $9 }' |
while read f;  do mv $SOMEDIR/$f $SAVETEMP; done

rm $SOMEDIR/* 2>/dev/null
rm $SOMEDIR/.* 2>/dev/null

mv $SAVETEMP/* $SOMEDIR
mv $SAVETEMP/.* $SOMEDIR 2>/dev/null


Note A) The line starting with 'ls -latr' and the one starting with
'while' are _one_ line,
Note B) SAVETEMP must exist,
Note C) Tested on a Stratus continuum 1200 running FTX 3.4  ;-)))

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Todd)
Subject: Re: dd
Date: 11 Jul 2000 22:07:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

        rawrite ; on distro cd under dosutils


On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:06:32 +0100, Kieran Tyrrell
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know where I can get hold of the 'dd' util compiled for DOS?
>
>(I need to raw write a linux partition from a windows machine...) or if
>anyone
>can suggest a good alternative to dd?
>
>Kieran.
>
>


-- 
_____________________
The lap of Linuxury
|<de in RH6

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From: Lilia Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: IP aliasing to a different network
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:58:58 +0200

I need to give several IP addresses (aliases) to the same NIC. It works
if the alias addresses are on the same network, but it doesn't work of
the alias address is on a different network than the main IP.

What I did is:

ifconfig eth0:0 <alias IP> netmask <mask>
route add  -net <alias IP network> netmask <netmask> dev eth0:0

If I try to ping the alias IP address on the box itself, it works.
However, it is not reachable  from the network.

All help will be greatly appriciated!!!!


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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: IP aliasing to a different network
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:02:00 GMT

Lilia Vogt wrote:
> 
> I need to give several IP addresses (aliases) to the same NIC. It works
> if the alias addresses are on the same network, but it doesn't work of
> the alias address is on a different network than the main IP.

Of course not. You need a router somewhere in between to do that.
You can't just jump across networks/subnets.

> What I did is:
> 
> ifconfig eth0:0 <alias IP> netmask <mask>
> route add  -net <alias IP network> netmask <netmask> dev eth0:0
> 
> If I try to ping the alias IP address on the box itself, it works.
> However, it is not reachable  from the network.
> 
> All help will be greatly appriciated!!!!

If you don't have any firewall rules:

echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

Then on each workstation, set the default route of each to
the IP address that's on the _same_ network. Then you should
be able to ping or do whatever across both logical networks.

Hope this helps.

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From: Lilia Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: IP aliasing to a different network
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:14:55 +0200

Sure, we have a router in between. The same set-up is currently working on
some of our DigitalUnix boxes. There must be a tric for Linux....


Thanks for answering, Lili

Akira Yamanita wrote:

> Lilia Vogt wrote:
> >
> > I need to give several IP addresses (aliases) to the same NIC. It works
> > if the alias addresses are on the same network, but it doesn't work of
> > the alias address is on a different network than the main IP.
>
> Of course not. You need a router somewhere in between to do that.
> You can't just jump across networks/subnets.
>
> > What I did is:
> >
> > ifconfig eth0:0 <alias IP> netmask <mask>
> > route add  -net <alias IP network> netmask <netmask> dev eth0:0
> >
> > If I try to ping the alias IP address on the box itself, it works.
> > However, it is not reachable  from the network.
> >
> > All help will be greatly appriciated!!!!
>
> If you don't have any firewall rules:
>
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>
> Then on each workstation, set the default route of each to
> the IP address that's on the _same_ network. Then you should
> be able to ping or do whatever across both logical networks.
>
> Hope this helps.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Willet [8019899])
Subject: Re: Consequences of a new kernel
Date: 12 Jul 2000 08:51:29 GMT

In article <8kgrh1$lcl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Last time, on the hit series comp.os.linux.misc,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] shocked the world by saying:
> 
>> When 2.4 is available I want to upgrade to take advantage of USB
>> support. However, I am unsure about the the *consequences* of installing
>> a new kernel.
> 
> To be honest, it's really minimal.

Mostly its minimal - but I've had problems with the 2.3.99 ones.
Firstly I've got drivers for SoundBlaster Live card which needed
some new ones downloading and installing.

And my compilation of apache (with php with sybase and mysql) 
doesn't work.  Don't know why - any thoughts out there.

However, this is the first kernel upgrade I've had problems with.

Mike

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From: Max TenEyck Woodbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP - RAID
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 05:17:50 -0400

"Mark(un-MASK)Forsyth" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 09:48:09 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>First, is this getting to the news group? My other request
>>for help appears on my local server, but I've gotten no
>>responses.
>>
>>Second, what is the proper source for help on RAID 5?
>>
> 
> Here's as good a place as any....

Thanks. Is there a mailing list that I could subscribe to
that is specific to RAID?

> Didn't see your original question.

So there IS a propagation problem. It was fairly large with
a big chunk of stuff from the 'messages' file. Someone did
eventually see it and I've made quite a bit of progress. The
original problem seems to have been due to SCSI bus problems.

> Get hold of a copy of raidtools and have a look at the doco
> that comes with it. It's all to do with software raid and
> the doco mostly comes in the guise of exampe config files.
> Pretty easy to follow. if you're dealing with hardware raid
> the the controller manufacturer / vendor should supply the
> required doco.

Good advice, but been there and done that. I've told other 
people RTFM often enough that I wouldn't dare not doing it
myself :-). I found the part about bubble wrap helpful.

...

> Mark F...
> unMASK for e-mail

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
Subject: Re: small script
Date: 12 Jul 2000 09:03:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 07:37:09 GMT, druuna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Hi there
| 
| >| I would like to write a small script file which would do the following :
| >| count the number of files in a directory,
| >| keep the 10 most recent and delete the others.
| 
| The "improved" script:
| 
| 
| #!/sbin/ksh
| 
| SOMEDIR="/usr/local/test"
| 
| SAVETEMP="/whatever/Keep"
| 
| ls -latr $SOMEDIR | grep -v "^d" | tail -10 | awk '{ print $9 }' |
| while read f;  do mv $SOMEDIR/$f $SAVETEMP; done
| 
| rm $SOMEDIR/* 2>/dev/null
| rm $SOMEDIR/.* 2>/dev/null
| 
| mv $SAVETEMP/* $SOMEDIR
| mv $SAVETEMP/.* $SOMEDIR 2>/dev/null
| 

Well done. Good improvements. Only one omission left (My mistake as well):
There should be quotes around $f in case the filename contains spaces: while
  while read f;  do mv "$SOMEDIR/$f" $SAVETEMP; done

Cheers,
Koos Pol
======================================================================
S.C. Pol - Systems Administrator - Compuware Europe B.V. - Amsterdam
T:+31 20 3116122   F:+31 20 3116200   E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Check my email address when you hit "Reply".

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From: "Andrew Ellington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: conf.modules & modules.conf
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:21:34 +0100

I've seen reference to both modules.conf and conf.modules files in HOWTOs
and newsgroup discussions.

Are these files the same thing for different distributions or what is going
on?

Thanks

Andrew



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 12 July 2000 Meeting of GNU/Linux/FreeOS Beginners Group
Date: 12 Jul 2000 05:25:02 -0400

This Wednesday, July 12, 2000 we are pleased to announce that once
more, by popular demand, we will have a meeting dealing with Free OS
security and privacy. David Solomonoff will speak on "Battling Web
Bugs & Tainted Cookies" (Part 3 of Securing Linux or BSD novice users'
home/personal computers against both hackers and intrusive
commercial/marketing entities). As usual, no assumption is made that
you have attended previous sessions.

And, as always, it is free and open to the public. The meeting starts at
6:30 with general questions and answers. 

The schedule is listed below but, as usual, the most up-to-date
information can be found at our current website at
http://www.eskimo.com/~lo/linux. 

If you are planning to attend it would be helpful if you would follow
the attendance-counting link for this talk either here or from the
website under the announcement of the meeting.  This is to help us
estimate the number of attendees to expect, so please only follow the
link once for each person planning to attend. 

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 
6:30 Q&A 
7:00 David Solomonoff 
Battling Web Bugs & Tainted Cookies
(Part 3: Securing Linux or BSD novice users' home/personal computers
against both hackers and intrusive commercial/marketing entities).
at CALC/Canterbury, 780 Third Ave., Room C-1, New York, NY 

If you know of any sources willing to donate us additional space, good
speakers for future meetings, topics you want covered, or have
suggestions for our new web page (currently under development) please
contact us.

We are grateful to CALC/Canterbury for the space they are providing us
for our regular meetings the second Wednesday of each month.

-Lyn 
-GNU/Linux/FreeOS Beginners


Slightly edited and fully distributed poC TINC:

Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY  
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org

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From: Hans Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel modules not loaded RH6.2
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:27:27 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Stephen Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hans Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The RH6.2 installation has been succesfull. Nevertheless, when I
tried
> > to make my Xircom PCMCIA card working by trying to load the
appropriate
> > modules I discovered that I have two entries /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0
and
> > /lib/modules/2.2.5-15.
> >
> > Trying 'uname -a' shows kernel version 2.2.5-15 while there aren't
any
> > directories under this kernel version! Instead, the 2.2.14-5 dir has
all
> > the appropriate directories including pcmcia. Is this correct or did
> > something go wrong during the install?? The RH source CD has only
the
> > sources for kernel 2.2.14-5.0.
> > I just want to load the modules with 'insmod' but that's unsuccesful
and
> > lsmod tells me that NOTHING is loaded by the kernel??
> >
>
> For some reason, you appear to have the default Red Hat 6.0 kernel
> installed as well as the Red Hat 6.2 one.  Have you performed an
> upgrade, rather than a fresh installation?  If you do
>
>   `rpm -qa | grep kernel'
>
> what output do you get?
>
> The PCMCIA modules are in the kernel-pcmcia-cs package, and they will
> only work with a kernel of the same version.  If the 2.2.14-5 kernel
> is installed, then check whether there is an entry for it in
> /etc/lilo.conf (and chech that the kernel really is there in /boot ).
> Run /sbin/lilo, and you should be able to boot from it form the LILO:
> prompt by choosing the appropriate label (type TAB to get a list of
> the options).  You will now be able to use your PCMCIA modules.
>
> If the kernel is not installed, or if you're concerned about security
> (and you should be), you should upgrade to the latest kernel.  Have a
> look at the Red Hat support pages under security updates.
>
> --
> Stephen Cornell          [EMAIL PROTECTED]         Tel/fax
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>

When I run the rpm -qa | grep kernel command I get the following:

kernel-utils-2.2.14-5.0
kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.14-5.0
kernel-2.2.14-5.0
kernelcfg-2.2.14-5.0
kernel-headers-2.2.14-5.0

...this seems to have installed the right kernel for RH6.2. BTW, your
right I remember installing RH6.0 when I received my laptop and failed
since I did not have the right screen drivers for my Dell, waited two
weeks and bought the upgrade 6.2 which came with the new X server
upgrade supporting my 15inch TFT correctly.
Nevertheless, I would like to make sure that I'm using kernel 2.2.14 and
not the old one??

Lilo.conf seems to have the right entry as well;
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.15-5.0
and there is no other entry for the old kernel.

Running /sbin/lilo gives me;
Added linux *
and should now invoke the right kernel image? You should know that I do
run NT boot loader in order to invoke linux but this shouldn't matter
right?...still can't load those modules and I'm also not able to mount
any fat partitions as well; this seems to me a related problem where the
old kernel is still active (namely, /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs contains
the fs modules to access these partitions!)

Should I reinstall all of RH6.2 or just all kernel related rpms?
Or should I simply download the lastest kernel (2.2.16?) and recompile
and install a brand new one?

Thanks for your help!
Greetings from Amsterdam,
hans


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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 05:54:24 -0500
From: gLiTcH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect 8 for Linux won't install under SuSE 6.4

Well, would you give us some error messages or something to go on so we can
maybe find out what may be the cause?

Stewart Honsberger wrote:

> I've got WordPerfect 8 for Linux sitting here, downloaded from LinuxBerg,
> and it refuses to install. I've installed it without a hitch on SuSE 6.2
> and SuSE 6.0, but with SuSE 6.4 it just refuses to install.
>
> I've tried it with the stock SuSE kernel, a newly compiled kernel.org
> 2.2.14, and now with 2.4.0-test2, and none of it works. I've updated most
> of my libraries, even including the fact that SuSE 6.4 now uses GlibC2.1
> while the older versions used GlibC2.0. Could this be the cause?
>
> I've examined the "Runme" script, but most of the Bash scripting language
> is still Greek to me, so I was almost completely lost.
>
> Has anyone out there installed WordPerfect 8 on a SuSE 6.4 system? If so,
> do you have any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
> Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test2


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