Linux-Misc Digest #113, Volume #26 Sun, 22 Oct 00 18:13:03 EDT
Contents:
backspace and delete keys do not function under RH7 ("yft")
Re: GPL questions? (John Hasler)
RE: HP35480A scsi tape drive config ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help me choose the best fileserver OS for a Compaq proliant server. (Keith Davey)
Problems setting up HP ScanJet 4P (Becky White)
Re: mgetty problems (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (2:1)
Re: rpm or debian packaging? (Jos� Luis Domingo L�pez)
error msg in syslog (OTR Comm)
error msg in syslog (OTR Comm)
Re: GPL questions? (John Hasler)
qmail setup under Red Hat 6.2 ("D & S")
Re: Kernel woes (Robert Jones)
Re: unresolved symbol ("David ....")
Re: Diabolical plot uncovered... (Andrew Purugganan)
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From: "yft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: backspace and delete keys do not function under RH7
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:18:48 +0100
Hi
I have just installed RH7 on my PC and for some reason my backspace and
delete keys do not delete in a shell under X-Window (GNOME). All they do is
beep everytime I use them. I've tried to tried to configure the keyboard and
have set it to my locale but to no avail. The two keys work fine without
X-Window.
Any ideas on how to fix this?
Cheers.
Jon Tsu
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GPL questions?
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:42:49 GMT
Neil Cherry writes:
> I need some pointers on using the GPL,...
www.gnu.org
> What I specifically want to know is: what do I have do to setup the GPL
> license to make it enforcable. Just saying it is, is not enough.
I don't understand what you mean by that.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RE: HP35480A scsi tape drive config
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:20:35 GMT
I can't give you much real help, but I can offer
some encouragement. I got my Archive Python DAT
drive to work without a problem. I can suggest
that you look at the manual for the drive to
figure out if there might be a hardware problem --
or even try the drive under Windows, which might
allow you to set up your drive easier, initially
(try a W98 or W2K backup program, for example).
You can read the manual page for mt (and st) and
I think there may be a well-known HOWTO for
tapes. I'm not sure if it will help, but you can
look in the linux source code tree, too. But I
just ran something like 'mt status' and figured
out that /dev/tape was not set up, so I linked it
to /dev/nst0 and away it went. I can do multi-
volume tars; everything seems to work.
See below where I have copied your questions.
I don't visit this newsgroup often. If you want
to ask me a question (not sure that I can offer
much more help), email me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "SMAMLESS).
-Thomas
In article <d7PG5.325775
$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Guy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, the symptoms changed a bit after I
selected a resonable varitation of
> a scinit.def file.
Sorry, what is that?
> Now the tape drive will not hold onto a tape.
Insert
> the tape, it loads, spins for a few seconds,
then ejects.
I'm not sure what might cause this. Could it be
a hardware problem: SCSI cable problem, dirty or
busted drive? Bad tape? I think maybe remember
something like this happening to me when I had a
SCSI configuration problem. If your cable, SCSI
addresses, termination, SCSI adaptor and drive
are all right, you should have no problem, I
think (assuming your drive has no major quirk --
and I doubt that).
> "mt load" results in an I/O error.
What does 'mt status' return?
> Attempting a tar results in " Cannot write: No
medium found"
>
> So, I'm stumped. Anyone successfuly using a
HP35480A that can give me some
> pointers?
>
> --- orig msg ---
>
> I have loaded Red Hat 6.2 on an old PC. Most
everything is working OK,
> except for an HP35480 DAT drive. The device is
seen at boot (see next -
> dump from dmesg)
>
> ------------------------------------------------
============================
> ----------------------------------
> Detected scsi tape st0 at scsi0, channel 0, id
3, lun 0
> st0: Error with sense data: [valid=0] Info
fld=0x0, Current st09:00: sense
> key Not Ready
The SCSI commands that go out over the SCSI bus
are standardised. I believe the "Not Ready"
indicates some particular reply was not returned
from the drive. I'm not sure if this is normal
or not. If you're still having trouble, I'll
check this next time I boot my Linux system and
see what I get. I'm pretty sure it is not "Not
Ready".
> 1) Not sure to what to make of the message
>
> 2) Cannot find any good documentation on
configuring scsi tape drives, much
> less anything specific on this model
There's basically nothing to it if you have the
scsi tape module (st), which dmesg is indicating
you do.
> Looking for any guidance.
Sorry I've been so long-winded.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Keith Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help me choose the best fileserver OS for a Compaq proliant server.
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:58:00 GMT
In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc John C. Hollemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dustin Puryear wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 03:12:20 GMT, dcs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >I would appreciate any input anyone can offer. I don't have the bandwidth to
>> >benchmark all these OSs, so I hope the net.community can help me narrow down
>> >my choices. Here are my choices:
>> >
>> >FreeBSD
>> >NetBSD
>> >OpenBSD
>> >Linux (RedHat or TurboLinux Server 6.x)
>> >Windows 2000
>>
>> As others have mentioned, your list of *BSD choices is pretty much out.
>> That only leaves you with Linux or Windows 2000. Is it at all possible
>> for you to run at least limited trials using both? That is always a
>> good way to go.
>>
>> Also, I have heard that there is a distributed file system ala Beowulf
>> that works well in high-load environments on Linux. I'm not sure if what
>> I heard is about a project still in alpha or in production. I can look
>> around my stack of papers if you want.
>>
>> FYI, Samba performs very well, but you will *definately* need to tweak
>> it for a high-load/performance environment. One of the biggest issues
>> will be how your applications access the data (large chunks vs small
>> chunks).
> _____
> You have overlooked an important PC based server platform and that is
> OS/2 Warp 4 server. It provides the samba functionality as well, and
> IBM is reportedly working towards a journalling file system for OS/2
> servers. OS/2 does, however, cost money.
> Regards / John
> --
> Message prepared: 11:24, 22/10/2000
Sorry to say this is inacurate. IBM is not supporting OS/2 4.0 in anyway starting Jan
2001
. I strongly discurage OS/2 as an option.
Based on the hardware you are discribing I would have to recommend Linux. or Solaris
X86
Have fun
Keith Davey
Tivoli System
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From: Becky White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems setting up HP ScanJet 4P
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:46:27 -0500
Greetings everyone,
I am having trouble getting an HP ScanJet 4p to work with Redhat 6.1. I
am not new to Linux and have configured many devices and systems but
this one is being very stubborn. The scanner is connected to a an SCSI
card and under Windows, it resides at 0x240 IRQ 10. The card is also
plug and play, which by itself should not be a problem, as I just
comment out the necessary lines in the isapnp.conf file and no problems
are reported on startup of isapnp. I then insmod the sym53c416.o
modules using: insmod sym53c416.o sym53c416=0x240,10
No errors are reported, but the device is then not found using the
various SANE tools. I check the HP SANE FAQ and find that if I don't
get the last three lines in my var/log/messages file, something has gone
wrong. Only they don't tell me what that something could be:
(snipped from the FAQ...)
insmod sym53c416
If it worked, have a look at the file /var/log/messages. If the scanner
was
switched on, messages like these should appear:
Aug 6 17:16:13 algol kernel: sym53c416.c: Version 1.0.0
Aug 6 17:16:13 algol kernel: scsi0 : Symbios Logic 53c416 (rev. 151) at
0x200, irq 4, SCSI-ID 7, fast pio
Aug 6 17:16:13 algol kernel: scsi : 1 host.
Aug 6 17:16:14 algol kernel: Vendor: HP Model:
C5110A Rev: 3638
Aug 6 17:16:14 algol kernel: Type:
Processor ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Aug 6 17:16:14 algol kernel: Detected scsi generic sga at scsi0,
channel 0, id 3, lun 0
If you dont see a message about Vendor/Model/Type, something went wrong
and you dont need to try the find-scanner tool of SANE. It will not
show the scanner.
(End of Snip)
The entry in my isapnp.conf file is below:
# Card 1: (serial identifier 62 ff ff ff ff 61 41 89 4d)
# Vendor Id SLI4161, No Serial Number (-1), checksum 0x62.
# Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.1
# ANSI string -->SYM 53C416 <--
#
# Logical device id SLI4161
# Device support I/O range check register
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3c
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3d
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be
changed if required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy
(CONFIGURE SLI4161/-1 (LD 0
# Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
# Minimum IO base address 0x0200
# Maximum IO base address 0xffe0
# IO base alignment 32 bytes
# Number of IO addresses required: 32
(IO 0 (SIZE 32) (BASE 0x0240) )
# IRQ 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12 or 15.
# High true, edge sensitive interrupt
(INT 0 (IRQ 10 (MODE +E)))
# Memory is non-writeable (ROM)
# Memory is read cacheable, write-through
# Memory decode supports high address
# memory is 8-bit only
# memory is an expansion ROM
# Minimum memory base address 0x000000
# Maximum memory base address 0x0f8000
# Range base alignment mask 0xff0000 bytes
# Range length 0 bytes
# Choose UPPER = Range, or UPPER = Upper limit to suit hardware
#(MEM 0 (BASE 0x000000) (MODE bu) (UPPER 0x000000))
#(MEM 0 (BASE 0x000000) (MODE br) (UPPER 0x000000))
(NAME "SLI4161/-1[0]{SYM 53C416 }")
(ACT Y)
))
Has anyone experienced trouble with this card and found a workaround?
It seemed very straightforward to set up and reports no problems. It
seems to not be able to completely load the module. Other information
which may be relevant is that I have a non PNP sound blaster card on
0x220 IRQ 5, a PNP modem on IRQ 3, com2 and a 3Com Etherlink III card
which I am leaving disabled for now in my isapnp.conf file.
Any tips would be appreciated. This computer belongs to my sister who
is wanting to make the switch to Linux for her graphic design work. She
has seen the GIMP and Star Office and is completely committed to getting
rid of Windows if I can just get the damn scanner working.
Thanks in advance!
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: mgetty problems
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:10:18 GMT
"Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hi all...
>I'm having problems with setting up mgetty on RH7 using a cyclom-y 16 port
>serial board.
>The driver is loaded and ttyS0 -> ttyS15 are the devices it wanst to use.
[...]
Perhaps you should try the correct device files - which are NOT
the /dev/ttyS* but the /dev/ttyC* ones. If you don't have the correct
device files in your /dev directory, you'll have to create them using
the mknod command.
Michael
--
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:16:41 +0100
Jan Schaumann wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Praedor Tempus
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> ...
> >>main problem with it is that its output (lyx and latex) is not accepted
> >>by any of the scientific journals to which I could conceivably publish.
> >>They all accept word, wordperfect, wordstar, pdf. SOME accept simple
> >>ascii text, which lyx/latex can handle, but not a single one will
> >>accept latex or lyx format documents.
> >
> > would pdftext be able to handle lyx output? if not, how difficult would
> > it be to make it?
>
> You can export your document from inside of LyX into a variety of
> formats: HTML, ASCII, PS, LaTEX etc.
> Once you have a ps you can turn it into a pdf with ps2pdf (or other
> tools, such as pstill).
Or, once you export it to LaTeX, run pdflatex on it. The effect's much
the same.
-Ed
> Cheers,
> -Jan
>
> --
> Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
>
> Please add smileys where appropriate.
--
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binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: Jos� Luis Domingo L�pez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm or debian packaging?
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:46:21 +0000
Hi Database:
> I want to start linux but I dont know if rpm or debian packaging is the
> best. If I were to go with rpm, I will get Red Hat 7. If I do debian system,
> i'll go with Storm.
>
Debain package management is fantastic, you can achieve full automation of
package updates and bug fixing. With Debian, no more failed dependencies when
installing a package, just select it and apt will do the rest for you.
I've used RedHat for 2 years, and RPM seemed good for me those days, but
once I discovered apt, rpm looks like a toy. With RedHat 7.0, they have launched
the RedHat Network, that AFAIK tries to automate package managing and
updating throug a web system, which you must subscribe to (and pay for).
Jos� Luis Domingo L�pez
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From: OTR Comm
Subject: error msg in syslog
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:13:43 GMT
Hello,
Can some one tell me what is causing messages like this in my syslog:
Oct 22 13:35:23 sec kernel: set_rtc_mmss: can't update from 52 to 5
Thanks,
Murrah Boswell
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From: OTR Comm
Subject: error msg in syslog
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:14:27 GMT
Hello,
Can some one tell me what is causing messages like this in my syslog:
Oct 22 13:35:23 sec kernel: set_rtc_mmss: can't update from 52 to 5
Thanks,
Murrah Boswell
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GPL questions?
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:08:50 GMT
Neil Cherry writes:
> I tried the first 2 but they don't clearly state: I need to have these
> files and put this in the header...
What do you need to know that is not covered by the "How to Apply These
Terms to Your New Programs" section at the end of the GPL itself?
> ...and email this person for acceptance or acknowledgment.
What do you mean by that?
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: "D & S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: qmail setup under Red Hat 6.2
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:22:02 GMT
Hi,
I am attempting to install qmail 1.03 on a machine running Red Hat Linux
6.2. Prior to this, I used sendmail exclusively. The main problem I am
having is with local mail delivery. Outgoing messages seem fine, but
incoming messages only show a few lines of header information - no body
of the message or extended header information, for example:
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 20 10:48:02 2000
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: RO
X-Status:
X-Keywords:
X-UID: 685
This message should have contained the text "This is a test...".
My sendmail.cf file contains:
Mlocal, P=/usr/bin/procmail, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qSPfhn9, S=10/30,
R=20/40,
T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix,
A=procmail -Y -a $h -d $u
and my current /var/qmail/rc file contains:
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward
|preline procmail' splogger qmail
I'm guessing that the problem is that I don't quite call procmail right
from /var/qmail/rc, so I am wondering what other people are using for
local mail delivery on Red Hat Linux 6.2 boxes? If you are using
procmail, what arguments do you pass to it in /var/qmail/rc? Can
someone give me an example /var/qmail/rc file so that I can get all of
my header information and the body of the message? Thanks!
- Doug -
P.S. - I have attempted calling procmail with the -Y and -d flags, but
still do not receive the text of incoming emails...
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel woes
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:37:18 -0500
Ninewands wrote:
> in article
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ninewands
> at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/22/00 5:07 AM:
>
> > Okay, I decided to bite the bullet and try building myself a kernel
> > customized for my machine. Now, as you can tell from the "full headers"
> > view of this message, I am stuck with using Windoze (my box is dual-boot) to
> > get to the net because ppp doesn't seem to want to work. The source tree
> > that I'm using for this monstrosity is kernel 2.2.17 and I'm building it in
> > an otherwise stock RedHat 6.0 environment.
> >
> > The problem I'm running in to is this:
> >
> > Initially, I built the kernel with ppp support compiled directly in and with
> > Plug 'n Pray support. My modem, which is to be configured as /dev/ttyS2, is
> > a Diamond Supra Express 56i, which WAS working fine under the stock Red Hat
> > 2.2.5 kernel. When I booted the new kernel, ppp line discipline, etc.
> > registered and all was okay and no errors were reported during the boot
> > process. I logged in as root and did a
> >
> > # setserial /dev/ttyS2
> >
> > to see if the modem was configured properly and got:
> >
> > /dev/ttyS2: device or resource busy
> >
> > In the process of poking around for a fix, I tried setting PnP OS to "Yes"
> > in my motherboard BIOS (Abit BP6, with 2 Celeron 366s) ... suddenly, it all
> > worked okay, but when I tried to connect to the 'net, kppp reported that
> > there was no ppp support in the kernel (huh?). Also, when I booted into
> > Windoze, very few of my PnP devices worked ... so I set PnP OS back to "No".
> > Now everything works in Windoze as well as it did before, but Linux has me
> > stuck.
> >
> > I opened up the old RedHat 6 (2.2.5) kernel configuration and copied down
> > the PnP and ppp values, put them into the config for the new kernel and
> > rebuilt ... no improvement.
> >
> > By now I am almost hopelessly confused. Mt box is significantly faster with
> > the strippped-down custom kernel, but I've got to get my modem and ppp
> > support working. Everything else seems to work fine (scsi-ise emulation,
> > SMP support, the "unsupported" driver for my scsi card (a Tekram DC-315U)
> > but the modem is eluding my. Please help.
> >
> > Thanks and
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ninewands
> >
> >
>
> Further to the above, I recompiled the kernel with both PnP and ppp support
> included (in the kernel, NOT as modules) and set the BIOS setting to "Yes".
> I logged in as root and tried:
>
> # setserial /dev/ttyS2
>
> I got
>
> /dev/ttyS2: port 0x03e8 irq 10 uart 16550A
>
> HURRAY!
>
> I then tried to dial up to my ISP using minicom instead of pppd (thus
> bypassing any permissions issues on minicom). Minicom politely informed me
> that the modem was off-hook. I issued a "ctl-A h" command to hang up the
> modem and then tried to dial again after resetting the modem. Same results.
>
> It now appears that the group of suspects has been narrowed down to the PnP
> initialization interaction between my kernel and ROM-BIOS. Unfortunately,
> I'm kind of stuck about where to go from here. Can anyone give me a
> sugggestion about how to cause the modem to complete it's PnP initialization
> and come online in a ready state?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ninewands
First thought was that in the anticipation of driving your bright, shiny custom
kernel, you might have overlooked the fact that COM ports are numbered from COM1
and ttyS* starts at ttyS0. Looks like you didn't make that mistake. (Maybe).
When I built a new kernel (2.2.16) for my RH6.0 box a couple months or so ago, I
was also greeted with the same message Kppp gives you. After posting here, I
received two pieces of helpful information -- both pointing to Kppp as the
culprit. One said simply that Kppp needed to be updated to the latest version.
The other went a bit further, stating (I'm doing this from memory, now) that my
Kppp contained a workaround for a bug in kernel 2.2.5 and once the kernel was
fixed, Kppp didn't work right. I was also sent advice to forget Kppp and follow
the instructions at http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
This worked out real well for me. YMMV.
--
Would you *really* want to get on a non-stop flight?
-- George Carlin
4:12pm up 8 days, 9:36, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.04
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From: "David ...." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unresolved symbol
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:26:22 -0400
E Levac wrote:
>
> I have the same problem.
> I do not have the answer :(
>
> However, I did the same thing (recompile a module for the LNE100TX
> Ethernet Card - tulip.c - for the Mandrake 7.1 system). I noticed that
> the unresolved symbols all seemed to be followed by some kind of "serial
> number". All the symbols terminate by a R followed by 8 hexadecimal
> digits (lowercase). For example, "add-timer_Rbea990b2".
>
> I tried to recompile the kernel and include the driver. It worked,
> however, after I recompiled ALL the drivers, I did the "depmod -a
> 2.2.15-4mdk" command, and ALL the drivers were reported having unresolved
> symbols.
>
> It is probably a compiler option, but I do not know which one.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When compiling the kernel you should do a "make mrproper"
then the "make config"
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Diabolical plot uncovered...
Date: 22 Oct 2000 21:38:20 GMT
jeff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ Sheesh... I spent much of the last month trying to get my otherwise
[ fine-and-dandy Debian Potato to recognize my serial ports. Along the way
[ I... lost sleep, fried a motherboard, doubted my sanity, seriously
[ considered writing Linus out of my will, and, in general, fumed and pouted.
[ But WAIT! I JUST FOUND THE PROBLEM...
[ I was trying to use ttys0, and I _should_ have used ttyS0!!!
[ How has everyone else in the world avoided this diabolical plot?
Seriously, by hanging out with these folks in these here newsgroups.
Reading up even on problems not remotely related to the problem, just to
see how tricky it can get...
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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