Linux-Misc Digest #124, Volume #20 Sun, 9 May 99 15:13:12 EDT
Contents:
rebooting into windows (Neil Zanella)
Upgrading the Kernel (Brooks Hagenow)
Re: Writing on dos partition... ("D. Vrabel")
Re: Installing Linux with Windows 9x (again!)... ("D. Vrabel")
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel ("D. Vrabel")
Re: ? loopback: ping `hostname` (Rob van der Putten)
Re: ?Windows NT dialup to Linux PPP server? (digs)
RH to Debian --easiest way? (Barry Kauler)
Re: does linux support compressed binaries? (Kim DeVaughn)
Re: Where can I get the latest poll.h? (Malware)
Please help: error on booting (Andrew_Luke NESBIT)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?) (Tom
Keats)
Re: Problems with looking up hostnames after upgrade (Gambit32)
Re: Programming crashes my system (Ed Young)
Re: [�W���N�i�H�ȿ�] (Ed Hurst)
Re: adding new system call?? (Matthias Warkus)
English Translation for faxfilter & Winword fax macro? (Teri)
floppy stays read only (David Magda)
Re: does linux support compressed binaries? (Chris Lee)
Re: Colors ("David Bildstr�m")
XF86Setup and SiS6326 (Len Cuff)
Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network? (Jan
Panteltje)
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rebooting into windows
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 14:09:04 -0230
Hello,
Many times, when rebooting into windows from Linux, a message appears
saying that "windows has performed an illegal operation and will be shut
down". This does not normally happen if I halt Linux, power off, then on,
the system, and then boot windows (via LILO).
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Neil Zanella
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Brooks Hagenow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Upgrading the Kernel
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 11:43:18 -0500
I am having trouble updating the Linux Kernel on my machine. After the
kernel is compiled and installed (I think), the system hangs on the
reboot saying that it can not mount root. It does this after it detects
the IDE devices and then tries the SCSI. I have one SCSI device, a 4.3
GB hard drive. That drive is what Linux is installed on even though my
IDE hard drive is the first boot drive.
I have a tripple boot. I have Windows 95 OSR2, Windows NT Workstation 4
(SP4), and Linux. I have Windows 95 installed on an IDE hard drive and
I have a SCSI drive shared by NT and Linux. I have BootMagic on the IDE
drive that gives me a menu for what OS to load on start up. When I pick
Linux, it goes to /dev/sda1 and loads lilo.
I want to update the Kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.7. I got linux from a
book called Red Hat Linux Unleashed that included Red Hat 5.2.
I have a Diamond FireGL 1000 Pro graphics card using the Permedia 2
chipset so I need the new kernel in order to use Xwindows because the
kernel I have does not support Permedia 2.
My SCSI card is a Diamond FirePort 40 Ultra Wide that is identified as a
NCR 53C8xx PCI by the initial install.
When I do a "make config" and get to the part dealing with SCSI drivers,
I say yes to the NCR 53C8xx but have been saying no to next option that
is something like SYM 53C8xx. The information given with that says
something about how those drivers can work together but you have to add
an option in lilo. I had been saying no to that driver because it
doesn't seem to use with the old Kernel and the SCSI works fine with
that.
The lilo.conf file has a line in it that says
"image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7.img" I have been putting a "#" in front
of that to remark it (I think that remarks it) because it seems to deal
with the old kernel. But so far I have not come accross a replacement
for that line with the new Kernel. Any ideas?
Windows ace trying to learn a "real" OS,
Brooks Hagenow
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Writing on dos partition...
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 17:52:23 +0100
On Sun, 9 May 1999, Giuseppe Milicia wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I've got a system with both Linux and Windows... I can see the fat
> partition,
> but only root can write to it! In fact root cannot change the permission
> to allow other users to write there.
Of course root cannot change the permission FAT doesn't store any
permission information.
> Can anyone tell me ho to fix this??
You need to set the umask, gid, or uid when you mount the partition. Look
at the mount and fstab man pages. (btw I mount mine so group `dos' can
write and add users to group 'dos' if required.
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux with Windows 9x (again!)...
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 17:49:23 +0100
On Sun, 9 May 1999, Graeme Fenwick wrote:
> Once you've let the sensation of d=E9ja-vu wash over you, you might reali=
se
> that I originally posted this question about a month ago- namely, what's =
the
> best way to install Linux without risking the W95 installation (and more
> importantly, the data) on my existing drive? And, no, I don't have a back=
up
> device :-(
You could back up all your data onto floppys. Unless you do image
processing or something like that you'll find that this is actually a
viable method.
=20
> David Martin had suggested buying a second hard drive and installing it o=
n
> that. There are two problems with this...
> - Firstly, how would I go about this? Most guides to installing Linux
> seem to assume that you'll be installing it on an existing drive, and my
> knowledge of PC hardware isn't good enough to fathom the solution to this=
on
> my own...
Sorry I don't understand this question. How can you install it on a drive
that does not exist? Installing on a second hard drive is the same as
installing on the first.
> - Secondly, the cost. Buying a brand-new hard drive would cost =A380+=
for
> the cheapest, and I don't reckon I'd need one that big anyway. At the oth=
er
> end of the scale are the old drives (10-120Mb) that could probably be got
> for next to nothing- no good unfortunately, as I've worked out that 0.5Mb=
is
> really the smallest workable solution. Is there a good (general) source o=
f
> drives in that range, at a reasonable price?
In terms of price per byte your better off buying a new drive. If you're
in the UK take a look at "Micro computer Mart" out every Thursday for 1
pound.
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 17:53:57 +0100
On 9 May 1999, Peter Mutsaers wrote:
> >> "j" == jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> j> What is it that glibc2 offers over libc5 that would cause this mass
> j> migration besides hype? Something I have always wondered.
>
> I think support for some 2.2 features such as SMP
Thread safety was one of the main things. Particularly with the I/O.
> j> What is wrong with the ELF file format? What does it offer over a.out?
> j> If a lot, then no it is not to their credit....if a.out is better then
> j> they should have stuck with it.
>
> Elf is better than a.out in some ways but it's not too important. An
> important reason to switch was that FreeBSD also uses the GNU
> binutils, compiler etc. And the GNU binutils toolset nowadays offers
> good support for ELF but not anymore for a.out. So the main reason was
> practical; also for the Linux emulation where you run ELF programs
> nowadays there had to be ELF support anyways.
ELF supports dynamic linking much better as I understand it.
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: Rob van der Putten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ? loopback: ping `hostname`
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:02:02 +0200
Hi there
On Sat, 8 May 1999, jianhong wrote:
> `ping slackbox` FAILED with the error, "... network unreachable".
Do a `ifconfig' and a `route -n' and post the results.
> By the way, slackware 3.5 doesn't support `ifconfig dummy ...`.
How about ifconfig dummy0 ?
Regards,
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (digs)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ?Windows NT dialup to Linux PPP server?
Date: 5 May 1999 10:48:36 GMT
Reply-To: nts-online.net
Hi-
give this a shot it works for me.
http://isis.livingston.com/tech/technotes/400/440004.html
On Tue, 04 May 1999 23:52:33 -0700, jianhong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello, Everyone,
>
>I'm trying to network my laptop(Slackware Linux 3.5) with my
>desktop (Windows NT 4.0 SP3) through a Null Modem Cable.
>The problem is I can't get the Windows NT dialup to work with the
>Linux PPP server. NT dialup complained that "there is an error with
>the modem or other device", while the PPPD complained that
>"LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests,
> Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
> Problem: all had bit 7 set to 1"
>
>Can someone help me understant what the error message means?
>
>I know the null modem is working because two machines have
>know problem talking PPP when they all run Linux.
>
>Thanks in advance. Jianhong
>
--
later on,
digs
:wq
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From: Barry Kauler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RH to Debian --easiest way?
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 00:10:20 +0800
I knew no better when I got RH 5.2 off the front of a
magazine and installed it. Now, I like the look of Debian
more and more.
I know there's a HOWTO somewhere for changing a
system from RH to Debian, but it looked complicated.
As I only have a few wordprocessor and graphics data
files to be kept, if I back them up to floppies, is it really
simple to just erase everything and install Debian?
I've got one 4.3G hard drive, with one 2G DOS partition, one
extended partition -- which has Linux in 3 logical partitions
-- could I just use fdisk to wipe the logical partitions?
Probably a good idea to decrease the size of that DOS/Win95
partition, as I never use Win95 any more.
I suppose it would be correct to uninstall lilo from the mbr also.
Any useful pointers will be appreciated.
Regards,
Barry Kauler
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim DeVaughn)
Subject: Re: does linux support compressed binaries?
Date: 09 May 1999 16:55:28 GMT
In article <7h44ld$nmf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| I use the linux port on my RedHat 5.2 system with no problems whatsoever.
| I've compressed both text-mode and X11 programs such as emacs and netscape
| and have not seen any problems running the compressed programs yet.
Thanks, that's good to know.
I don't particularly like running s/w on a UNIX box, for which I can't
get the source code, but I'm testing the v0.71 of upx anyway.
I have found at least one small bug with its signal handling, which seems
to only have cosmetic consequences:
I've upx'd the copy of the "mutt" mailer that I'm running, which I
normally have started from within a wrapper /bin/sh script.
When I fire up mutt in my usual way, and then suspend (^Z) mutt, the
suspension msg gets truncated, and the subsequent shell prompt gets
"offset" a few character positions to the right, thusly ("W: " being
my prompt):
---this would be the bottom line of mutt's display (ie, the status bar)---
Suspended
W:
However, when I run the upx'd mutt directly (w/o going thru the wrapper
script), I get the normal, expected behavior upon suspending:
---this would be the bottom line of mutt's display (ie, the status bar)---
Suspended (signal)
W:
This is using vt102 as my TERM, and with mutt built using slang (v1.2.2).
As I said above, it is a minor problem, and (probably) only cosmetic in
nature, but it still points up a signal handling problem (and thus I
wonder what *other* signal handling bugs may be lying in wait ...).
Yes, I'll send the developers a copy of this, as a bug report.
As may be, my 393044 byte copy of mutt went from a gzexe'd size of
177690 bytes (54.9%), to a upx'd size of 168235 bytes (42.81%), which
is another 12% off the uncompressed size. The upx'd binary also loads
noticably faster than the gzexe'd version. This is using the -9 level
of compression for gzexe/gzip, and the --best level for upx.
That's pretty significant ...!
Anyway, thanks again for pointing me towards the UPX package ...
/kim
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"Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely
mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way
down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space."
--Douglas Adams
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From: Malware <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where can I get the latest poll.h?
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 18:40:11 +0200
Hi Gerald,
you wrote:
> How do I get the latest header files such as poll.h, as my current Linux
> Redhat 5.2 version does not have POLLRDNORM constant?
Install a newer glibc2 and hope. The glibc2.1 should contain and support
this flag but is experimental.
Malware
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew_Luke NESBIT)
Subject: Please help: error on booting
Date: 9 May 1999 13:49:27 GMT
I'd appreciate it is somebody could help me with the error message that
occurs on booting linux every so often. I'm running kernel 2.0.36 with root
partition mounted on /dev/hda5
"/dev/hda5 has reached maximal count count, check forced"
What does this mean, and how do I fix it and prevent it from occuring?
Thankyou,
Andrew Nesbit
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Keats)
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 00:48:46 -0700
In article <7h2kdh$7aj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>
>>On 08 May 1999 10:34:40 +0200,
>> Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> In Linux, lots is happening on the desktop, easy-to-use sysadm tools
>>> etc. Other Unices such as FreeBSD may profit a bit from that.
[yadda yadda]
>
> You know, there's nothing more amusing than seeing these freebsd guys trying
> to comment on something [the linux kernal development process for instance]
> which they clearly don't understand.
At least we know how to spell "kernel", if nuffin' else <g> <wink>
cheers,
tom
--
Why not just drop everything and go fishin'?
remove NO_SPAM. from address to reply
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gambit32)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Problems with looking up hostnames after upgrade
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 17:34:18 GMT
Hrm.... the nsswitch.conf seems fine, as does my /etc/resolv.conf
i made a backup of the /etc/ files. Ill take a look at them now and
see what i can find
...
Went through them. Nothing changed... slack 3.1 doesnt have an
nsswitch file
damn
On Sun, 09 May 1999 12:44:05 -0400, "Frederick W. Reimer, Sr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't know anything about Slackware 3.6, but you may want to check for
>a nsswitch.conf file in the /etc directory. In later versions of most
>distributions, the nsswitch.conf file is used to tell the resolver
>libraries which name resolution methods it should use and in which
>order. Options include, but are not limited to, DNS, hosts files, and
>NIS. If you have this file, then the bet is that Slackware 3.6 DOES use
>this file. Look for a line starting with hosts: and make sure that it
>has 'files' as one of the options, preferably the first.
>
>Then, check out your /etc/resolv.conf if your nsswitch.conf had that as
>one of the options (your computer wouldn't use DNS at all if it wasn't
>listed). Make sure your domain and nameservers are set appropriately.
>
>Slackware MAY keep backup copies of all configuration files and write
>new "blank" ones when you do an upgrade, much like RedHat saves old
>configs in .rpmsave files. If this is the case, you're computer may
>APPEAR to be working fine, but chances are you will need to do a find of
>all files ending in whatever Slackware may save the old configs as and
>manually upgrade the configs to your old settings...
>
>HTH,
>
>Fred
>
>
>Gambit32 wrote:
>>
>> we recently upgraded from slackware 3.1 to 3.6, and now our machine is
>> having severe problems getting hosts from ips.
>>
>> TCP wrappers should give out the username@host when we connect to our
>> server, but that doesnt work. it gives usernam@ip.
>>
>> In my perl scripts and includes on my web page
>> (http://www.academic.marist.edu/carob/) it should be saying came from
>> host / ip but that doesnt work either.
>>
>> Even more peculiar, we have listings in /etc/hosts like
>> 148.100.215.108 area51.groom-lake.nv.us area51
>> When i connect to the machine, it used to say
>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" but it wont even do THAT anymore.
>>
>> I have no idea exactly where the problem is. Ive checked the kernel,
>> my perl scripts, ive recompiled my wrapper program. im just lost!
>>
>> PLEASE anyone who can help. PLEASE.
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux-redhat
Subject: Re: Programming crashes my system
Date: 9 May 1999 15:44:20 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I am using several programming languages on a Win98 environment :
> Borland's C/C++ compiler and Microsoft's VJ++ for Java 1.0. C allows me
> to use pointers and sometimes I get into infinite loops and while
> Windows can terminate these most these most of the time, on rare
> ocassions, it can't, or creates havoc in the system, forcing me to
> reboot. Same with Java. I think I did something or VJ++ did something
> and it might have messed up my registry, and caused "Explorer" to
> malfunction, and therefore would not let me boot up to Windows. I had to
> do a tedious re-install of Windows to solve that problem.
>
> My question is, what exactly is causing these problems? Is it a bad
> compiler? Is it an inherent danger in programming (especially with
> pointers in C)? Or, is it Window's fault for not "isolating" the problem
> program and letting it cause havoc?
Crashing is a "feature" of the Windows architecture. As is the ability to
accidentally mess up anything and everything at random (compliments of
unprotected access).
>
> And another important question, would Linux be a more stable environment
> to program C or Java in? I need an operating system that is stable and
> won't crash on me because of any programming mistakes I make. Or, is
> programming just plain "dangerous" to any OS? The specific Linux version
>
> I am talking about is Red Hat.
I sysadmin 4 RedHat systems, my son's, my wife's, mine at home, and at work. I
use both of mine for C, Java, and perl programming. I have not had a single
crash on any of the 4 systems in the year that they have been running. I used
to crash Win95 two or three times a day when developing. The only problem I
remember is managing to confuse my Xserver once at work, I had to kill and
restart it. My experience is that Linux is "absolutely" stable.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions or comments.
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From: Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [�W���N�i�H�ȿ�]
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 13:44:52 -0500
Boy! This is the kind of newsgroup spam I can understand. It makes
more sense than the other crap that shows up here.
Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: adding new system call??
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 18:27:56 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sun, 9 May 1999 17:54:06 +0900...
..and dongwon Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I made my own system call and kerenl complie and reboot.
>
> and the book said (linux kernel internals 2nd)
> register the system call to library fuction for using this system call in
> application.
>
> so I made a C code
>
> #include <linux/unistd.h>
> _syscall(int, holydive)
Um, what does that call do? :)
mawa
--
Come home at night with a swirling in my head, Reach for the pillow,
miss the whole darn bed
-- Joe Riggens, "Drunk", '50 R&B song.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Teri)
Subject: English Translation for faxfilter & Winword fax macro?
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 18:09:19 GMT
I am an extreme newbie and am attempting to set up a Linux fax server for
Windows machines (yes, i realize i'm probably out of my league) using
Samba and mgetty+sendfax. The instructions indicate following directions
in the file 'faxfilter' and using a winword macro, however these files
are in German and my German leaves much to be desired. Is there an
English translation for these files anywhere?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Teri Ray
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Magda)
Subject: floppy stays read only
Date: 9 May 1999 18:16:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why is it that Linux keeps telling me that my floppy is read only? I mount
one floppy that is, but every other floppy after that is also RO even if it
is not. When I umount the first one, flip the tab to make it R/W, and
remount it, it still says it's R/O. As far as I can tell it has something
to do with the cache/buffers but running 'sync' doesn't seem to do
anything. Even the command 'dd' says that it's R/O, and 'mdir' (from the
mtools package) keeps spitting the same contents even though I've changed
floppies.
This is on Linux 2.2.3, on a majorly updated Red Hat 5.0 distribution.
--
David Magda <dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca>, 2nd Year Electrical Eng.
"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best--" and then he had to stop and think.
Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a
moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were,
but he didn't know what it was called. -A.A.Milne,The House at Pooh Corner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee)
Subject: Re: does linux support compressed binaries?
Date: 9 May 1999 18:21:24 GMT
In article <3735be00$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>In article <7h44ld$nmf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>|
>| I use the linux port on my RedHat 5.2 system with no problems whatsoever.
>| I've compressed both text-mode and X11 programs such as emacs and
netscape
>| and have not seen any problems running the compressed programs yet.
>
>Thanks, that's good to know.
>
>I don't particularly like running s/w on a UNIX box, for which I can't
>get the source code, but I'm testing the v0.71 of upx anyway.
True, but in this case UPX is an exeception for me because it's not a new
program. I've been using the earlier DOS version of it to compress files
created by DJGPP for over a year.
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From: "David Bildstr�m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Colors
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:13:54 +0200
D. Vrabel skrev i meddelandet ...
>Hello,
>
>> I was just wondering if one could change the bpp depth from within X and
if
>> so, how?
>You can't while X is running. You can only change color depth on starting
>X. You can however start two X servers (each one on a different VT) with
>different color depths.
>
>David
>--
>David Vrabel
>Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
>
Ok... Thanx...
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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XF86Setup and SiS6326
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 20:01:31 +0100
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Does anyone know of a version of XF86Setup which will work with this
chipset ?
Cheers,
Len
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Panteltje)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network?
Date: Sun, 09 May 99 19:01:27 GMT
Installed the thing, only got grey screen, then if I want to go back to linux
console nothing but vertical stripes, no keyboard and mouse.
Need to reboot, and that takes a LONG time with large harddisks.
Do not understand the enthousiasm about it.
Deleted it and all docs.
Cheers.
J.
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