Linux-Misc Digest #124, Volume #25               Thu, 13 Jul 00 15:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: What is foobar, or foo bar, or whatever...?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  SVGAlib or similar mpeg-player required... (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Still can't run GCC ... (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: /depmod erorr message (Paul Kimoto)
  RPM topdir moved (Bob Tennent)
  Re: HOW DO I... (John-Paul Stewart)
  Re: Easy Install? Hmmmmmmm and Hmmmm (John-Paul Stewart)
  Re: Problems with modules on 2.2.13 [SMP] (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: What is foobar, or foo bar, or whatever...?? (Joachim Feise)
  Re: PGP signed messages!!! (The Darkener)
  how to delete files named like "-002210" (Biao Wu)
  Re: how to delete files named like "-002210" ("Bunghole")
  Re: how to delete files named like "-002210" ("Keiichi")
  Re: Still can't run GCC ... (Markus Kossmann)
  scsi cd-rw works, normal cdrom gone ("Jan Schaumann")
  Re: What's lost+found (Steve)
  Re: Hot Webcams FREE - GRATIS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  logging DNS/web access (Shawn Button)
  Re: Need Help - Joining Windows NT Domain from Linux Box (Dan Austin)
  Re: how to delete files named like "-002210" (Paul Kimoto)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: What is foobar, or foo bar, or whatever...??
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:04:39 GMT

You have obviously never been in the military. There are three ways of
describing events:

SNAFU
TARFU
FUBAR

Take a little time and you'll figure out what they mean.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi foobarians,
>
> I've heard so many linux sites, books, and even email messages that
> contain this phrase...???  What the heck is foo bar...????   The weird
> thing is that it also makes its presence in the movie "Saving Private
> Ryan", but they never define the term...  Hmmm.....  Ha...
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Trevor Penney,
> A+, Network+ Certified
> ----------------------
> That's alright, I still got my guitar...
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: SVGAlib or similar mpeg-player required...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:14:41 GMT

On 13 Jul 2000 14:38:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<<8kkk9r$cup$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Does anyone know if and where I can find a VGA-based mpeg-player 
>(i.e. not requiring X) ?

The other reply was for an mp3 player.  mpg123 is only for mp3s; from your
original message, I assume you wanted an MPEG video player.  I don't know
if any such exist, and I don't think you'd get much joy out of it as
SVGAlib is pretty dead these days.  Check http://freshmeat.net/ and search
for "MPEG player", sorting the results by hand to see if there's anything
that can use SVGAlib.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
 \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Still can't run GCC ...
Date: 13 Jul 2000 12:25:07 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <r1kb5.15267$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Micromans wrote:
> I've ensured that the following RPM's (RedHat 6.0) are installed:
>
> binutils-2.9.1.0.23-1.i386.rpm
> egcc-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm
> egcc-c++-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm
> egcc-g77-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm
> egcc-objc-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm

(The last two compile Fortran and Objective C.  Most people don't compile
programs written in these languages.)

> When I do a "./configure" to make squid I get the error "Checking whether
> the C compiler (gcc  -g) works... no"
>
> So I followed instructions on another post and entered a C program (hello.c)
> as follows:
>
> cat > hello.c
> main ()
> {
>     printf ("Hello\n");
> }
> <Control-D>
>
> Once the Hello.C program was entered I did a "gcc hello.c" and get this
> error:
>
> /usr/sbin/ld: cannot open crt1.0: No such file or directory

(Often you can also read [the end of] the "config.log" file.)

You need to install the libc development package.

Why does Red Hat think that you may want to install the compiler without
it?  (You may want to send a bug report.)

-- 
Paul Kimoto

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: /depmod erorr message
Date: 13 Jul 2000 12:28:51 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim McIntyre wrote:
> I get the following message when I run /sbin/modules -a:

I suppose you mean "/sbin/depmod -a".

> /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/NET Wanpipe.0: unresolved symbols
>
> Any idea what this means

This module (probably .../net/wanpipe.o) refers to some "symbol" in the
kernel, but it is not clear where it should be found.  (Generally, it
should either already exist in the kernel, or be found in some other module
that needs to be loaded first.)  You can get a (very) little bit more
information by running "/sbin/depmod -ae".


-- 
Paul Kimoto

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: RPM topdir moved
Date: 13 Jul 2000 16:12:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The "topdir" for SRPM installs on my RedHat box used to be /usr/src/redhat
but moved a few days ago to /root/redhat, including copying all the
sources, build trees, and rpms.  

How did this happen?  My /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc hasn't changed and there are no 
/etc/rpmrc or ~root/.rpmrc files.  

What can I do to restore the default?  I'm using rpm-3.0.4-0.48.

Bob T.

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From: John-Paul Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HOW DO I...
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:33:25 GMT

Darren Christie wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the help that people gave to my prevois posting on kudzu,
> pcmcia and sound.
> 
> I have a website I maintain for my local church, for which I want to put
> a copy of the church magazine on. I wish to put the magazine up as a
> pdf, however the original documents are in Word97 format. How do I
> convert (using a script if possible to automate the task) into a pdf
> under Linux? The magazine is normally held as several Word docs by the
> people that produce the church magazine. They are non-techie users, so
> getting them to change is not really an option as it may confuse them.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Darren

Have you considered posting it as HTML instead?  Word 97 (I beleive) can
automatically create HTML with "Save As" on the "File" menu.  Seems simpler to
me, and people could read the magazine online without needing a PDF viewer.

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From: John-Paul Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Easy Install? Hmmmmmmm and Hmmmm
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:33:30 GMT



Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:30:06 GMT, N/A wrote:
> >i have set my monitor specifications and everything correct for corel
> >linux but when i go into linux the display is just too big and it extends
> >beyond my monitor barriers and i cant see it all? what would be the
> >problem and how do i fix it? thanks so much.
> 
> Try commenting out any line that says "Virtual" in your XF86Config file.
> Either that or set Virtual so that it's the same as your actual resolution.
> 
> --
> Donovan

N/A, this question keeps getting posted to this group with slightly different
subject lines, and the response is typically the same.  (I count nine postings
with three different subject lines asking the same question in the last 48
hours.)  If you've already tried the "Virtual" thing, one of your posts should
say you tried and it didn't work.  Or you should just try the suggestion.  

Welcome to linux, and I hope things go more smoothly in the future.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Problems with modules on 2.2.13 [SMP]
Date: 13 Jul 2000 12:34:04 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8k59fm$glb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris J/#6 wrote:
> There is, at work, a Dell Poweredge, Dual PIII 450, Megaraid RAID, bags
> of memory and disk etc etc. But I've been unable to get modules to insert
> into the kernel, with messages from insmod "unresolved symbol". The system
> is a RedHat 6.1 Deluxe installation...and its the supplied Redhat kernel.
> Personally, I'd like to blow it away and stick a stock non-vendor-modified
> 2.2.14 on it, but I've been told not to do that... *sigh*.
>
> Here is, for example, the output of "insmod loop":
>
> /lib/modules/2.2.13-0.13/block/loop.o: unresolved symbol best_memcpy
> /lib/modules/2.2.13-0.13/block/loop.o: unresolved symbol best_memset
> /lib/modules/2.2.13-0.13/block/loop.o: unresolved symbol best_copy_to_user
> /lib/modules/2.2.13-0.13/block/loop.o: unresolved symbol best_copy_from_user
>
> Now, from what I can tell, these are standard kernel functions, and whats
> more, "grep best_mem /boot/System.map" reveals ...
>
> c0220384 T best_memcpy
> c022040f t best_memcpy_final
> c0220437 T best_memset
> c02204bf t best_memset_final
 [...]

> So its in the kernel...however,  I'm wondering if there is some obfuscation
> going on somewhere, as doing ksysms -a and feeding that through grep reveals
>
> c0220384  best_memcpy_R__ver_best_memcpy  
> c0220437  best_memset_R__ver_best_memset  
>
> Both at the same offset as the output from System.map ... is this causing
> the problem -- same symbol but different name ?
>
> Basically, module loading is broken and I can't figure out whats gone wrong.
> Yes, I've done from clean, zapped the modules tree before a make
> modules_install.
>
> depmod -a fails everytime (unresolved symbols in every module), so its well
> and truely fubar'd.

Could this be a problem with CONFIG_MODVERSIONS?  (However, I thought that
then the symbols usually looked more mangled ...)

-- 
Paul Kimoto

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From: Joachim Feise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: What is foobar, or foo bar, or whatever...??
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:36:58 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The explanations are in the Jargon file (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/),
aka The New Hacker's Dictionary.
There is also a book called "The F Word" (search for it at Amazon), which
also explains all these (and many other) words.

-Joe

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> You have obviously never been in the military. There are three ways of
> describing events:
> 
> SNAFU
> TARFU
> FUBAR
> 
> Take a little time and you'll figure out what they mean.
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi foobarians,
> >
> > I've heard so many linux sites, books, and even email messages that
> > contain this phrase...???  What the heck is foo bar...????   The weird
> > thing is that it also makes its presence in the movie "Saving Private
> > Ryan", but they never define the term...  Hmmm.....  Ha...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Trevor Penney,
> > A+, Network+ Certified
> > ----------------------
> > That's alright, I still got my guitar...
> >
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PGP signed messages!!!
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:17:51 GMT

"Why does the government waste all of that paper and time writing useless laws?
Why don't they just throw into prison whoever they feel needs to go?"

PGP/Strong encryption-authentication is probably one of the most important
defenses we have against controlling governments, crackers and eavesdroppers.
It stands for privacy, security and authentity.  Probably one of the only things
we have to protect ourselves completely from anything or anyone who wants to
subvert these rights.

Do some research on PGP before you jump to the conclusion that it's "useless
trash".  If you feel the same way after actually understanding what it does for
our rights as people, then you make me sick.

Gerald Waugh wrote:

> Why does everyone on this newsgroup send
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> There message!!!
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: 2.6.3ia
> Charset: latin1
>
> iQCVAgUBOWyiTlrUI/eHXJZ5AQHfPAQAgRVwrKV4Ef/sOW0tW5lTd+jzQRsuEiDg
> wxNo4LEiZIUYjA39Ex1F2DDr+UYSfBB/VhqfkVMOrVJRgb+5TgOwtIOxfEP2pRKl
> T2lismUO6WqB/qdhGu08nAPAWhwmo8Qq+SSDZpFiNGQhXsOyhSz4UuiQiCZWL8my
> TLANf6AZeEs=
> =aLAO
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
> Don't you know that there are places in this world where every byte of data
> in a message is costing the reader money?
> Newsgroup members, please excuse me for sending this (more trash), which may
> also cost some readers a little money! I am just tired of having my
> resources and Internet bandwith used to store and move useless TRASH!!!

--
- The Darkener



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From: Biao Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: how to delete files named like "-002210"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:43:49 -0500

Hi, all

   Got a tricky problem. Somehow a file named "-002210" was created in
a directory. I had no idea how to get rid of it 'cause commands like
rm, cp, cat all regard everything after "-" as an option. So if I type

rm ?002210

I would get 

rm: invalid option --0

Similar with cp and cat.  Anyone got an idea to remove this file?
Thanks in advance.

Biao 


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From: "Bunghole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: how to delete files named like "-002210"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:51:44 -0600

I think all you would have to do is add a \ before the - so it tells the
command that it uses it as part of the filename and not a option

Biao Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi, all
>
>    Got a tricky problem. Somehow a file named "-002210" was created in
> a directory. I had no idea how to get rid of it 'cause commands like
> rm, cp, cat all regard everything after "-" as an option. So if I type
>
> rm ?002210
>
> I would get
>
> rm: invalid option --0
>
> Similar with cp and cat.  Anyone got an idea to remove this file?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Biao
>



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From: "Keiichi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to delete files named like "-002210"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:53:25 +0200


Hello

Biao Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi, all
>
>    Got a tricky problem. Somehow a file named "-002210" was created in
> a directory. I had no idea how to get rid of it 'cause commands like
> rm, cp, cat all regard everything after "-" as an option. So if I type
>
> rm ?002210
>

You have to use the '--' option. It tell to rm (and cp, mv, ...) that there
is no more options after this one.

    rm -- -002210

> I would get
>
> rm: invalid option --0
>
> Similar with cp and cat.  Anyone got an idea to remove this file?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Biao

Bye



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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Still can't run GCC ...
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:46:04 +0200

Micromans wrote:
[...]
> Once the Hello.C program was entered I did a "gcc hello.c" and get this
> error:
> 
> /usr/sbin/ld: cannot open crt1.0: No such file or directory
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> I don't know the C language. All I want to do is run "./configure" so I can
> then make squid. Any ideas what I'm missing?
> 
You didn't install the glibc-devel rpm . 
--
Markus Kossmann                                    
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: scsi cd-rw works, normal cdrom gone
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 13:57:09 -0500

Hi all,

recently I upgraded my kernel to 2.2.16. Before I had installed a cd-rw
drive with scsi-emulation and all was peachy. CD-RW was working and my
normal cdrom was working, then at /dev/sr0

now I upgraded the kernel and the cd-rw is working, but when I try to
cdplay from my normal cdrom, it can't find the cdrom-drive. I poked around
the /dev/sr* and /dev/sg* but to no avail.

anybody has any hints?
Scsi support is compiled into the kernel, IDE/ATAPI cdrom support as a module...

TIA,

-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>

WinNT error 003: FPU error - enter any 11 digit prime number to continue.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: What's lost+found
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Jul 2000 13:51:57 +0100

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:14:39 +0800, Chew GH wrote:
>Though the lost+found directory does not appear to do anything to my RH 6.1
>system, what's the function of this ubiquitous directory? Everytime I make a
>file system on the floppy, this directory is automatically created. Why? How
>could I disable the creation of this directory everytime I mkfs?

Deleting stuff that the OS creates without knowing what it does is a recipe
for disaster, don't do it. 

Your question has been answered many times before in this group, have a look
at some previous answers. 

-- 
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.zeropps.uklinux.net/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

 12:58pm  up 14 days, 12:39,  2 users,  load average: 1.70, 1.32, 1.16

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Hot Webcams FREE - GRATIS
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:06:42 GMT

so... wheres the url for these webcams?  jk


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Shawn Button <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: logging DNS/web access
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:18:02 -0600

does anyone know how to log web page requests from internal clients?
Upper management wants a running log of what pages are requested from
our clinet machines. Redhat 6.1 is our gateway/NAT machine. Any advice
would be appreciated. Thanks,

Shawn


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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:32:54 -0400
From: Dan Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need Help - Joining Windows NT Domain from Linux Box

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi There,
> I am desperately seeking help in solving my problem.
>
> I've loaded linux on a machine at work. The network is window nt network
> and I am simply trying to hook up to the NT domain so that I can surf
> the net thru the Linux box. At a later stage I would want others(using
> windows) to be able to see my linux box and access and use linux
> programs.
> Some Info: I could see my network card thru 'ifconfig' as well as thru
> 'dmesg'. I used netconfig to connect using DHCP and I know I have a
> valid IP address. I could 'ping' my linux IP from windows but then I am
> not able to get 'netstat' from windows. This apparently is because I did
> not join the NT domain. And I am desperate to join the windows NT
> domain. I am stuck.
>
> Deeply appreciate any and all help..
>
> Thanks
>
> Sahadev
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

did you look into samba yet?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: how to delete files named like "-002210"
Date: 13 Jul 2000 14:35:27 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <396e017b_3@mercury>, Bunghole wrote:
> Biao Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>    Got a tricky problem. Somehow a file named "-002210" was created in
>> a directory. I had no idea how to get rid of it 'cause commands like
>> rm, cp, cat all regard everything after "-" as an option.

> I think all you would have to do is add a \ before the - so it tells the
> command that it uses it as part of the filename and not a option

No, "\-" is interpreted by the shell to mean "-", *before* it's passed to
the command (rm, cp, etc.):

$ echo \-s
-s

A method that works everywhere is

$ rm ./-002210 # in the appropriate directory

and (as written by Keiichi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

$ rm -- -002210

works if you have the GNU (or other) tools that recognize "--".
(Other, old unix versions may not.)

-- 
Paul Kimoto

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