Linux-Misc Digest #124, Volume #27 Fri, 16 Feb 01 11:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: ? Windows Same Gnome ("Ben")
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Hugh Lawson)
Re: How can I get rid of "bash"? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux or Windows (NOT A HOLY WAR!) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mail Server (POP3) setup ? (Eric Chow)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Winders Millenium and the mbr. ("Frank Hale")
Re: Serial port comunication (Frank da Cruz)
Re: what meens the + ("Marcus Rudolph")
Re: fs across two hard disk (Hugh Lawson)
Re: what meens the + (Joseph Holland King)
Re: Mail Server (POP3) setup ? (Rod Smith)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Salvador Peralta)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Ian Davey)
Re: ftpaccess file question ("Charles")
Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner ("sandy")
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From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: ? Windows Same Gnome
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:27:08 GMT
Very addictive, isn't it.
http://www.rocketdownload.com/Details/Puzz/gamesame.htm
Cheers, Ben
Alec Soroudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:So6g6.94174$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I love the same gnome game that comes with Gnome. Does anyone know of
> Windows/DOS version of it or a similar game?
>
>
> thanks a lot.
>
> --
> Alec Soroudi
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hugh Lawson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:20:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
>counties?
>
>Is that a sign that not even a Democrat candidate can trust
>a Democrat election board to do things properly?
I am a Democrat. Please take your politics to a political forum.
--
Hugh Lawson
Greensboro, North Carolina
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How can I get rid of "bash"?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:36:13 +0000
Doney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Actually I don't want the GUI.
> I am in command line mode, but I am limited on what I can do. Even in root.
> I am inside something( sorry new to linux) that
> wont let me do any of the configuration of TURBO LINUX. Let's say: before
> I was able to access my network setup and an interface to
> activate/deactivate
> programs/modules.
No, you are in bash. In bash you can do ANYTHING! (at all).
You just need to know how, which at the moment you obviously don't.
What you want is probably a setup tool of some kind. (I have no idea what
setup tool Turbo Linux uses).
Try typing linuxconf
if that doesn't work, try reading some of the documentation on the CD you
installed it from.
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| in | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
| Computer Science | - Father Jack in "Father Ted" |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux or Windows (NOT A HOLY WAR!)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:44:18 +0000
Scott Brady Drummonds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Hi, guys,
> A class I'm taking has asked us to have a round table-type discussion about
> ancient holy war of "Windows versus Linux".
Ancient??? Hardly.
Neither windows or linux were around in any useable form 10 years ago.
MCIBTYC [1] arguments have been going on for decades...
Thoughout the 80's and 90's it's been "My Mac is better than your PC"
In the late 80's early 90's it was "My Amiga is better than your Atari ST"
In the early 80's it was "My ZX Spectrum is better than your Commodore 64"
In the 1950s it was "My Collossus is better than your Eniac" :)
> Also, being a USENET veteran, I beg you not to post your opinions here.
> Just post, e-mail, or quote references. We all know how protracted this
> conversation will become if everyone throws in their two cents. ;)
Being a usenet veteran, you should know the rules...
You post here, we reply here.
[1] My computer is better than your computer.
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| in | suck is probably the day they start making |
| Computer science | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge |
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From: Eric Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Mail Server (POP3) setup ?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:39:53 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
Is it possible to setup a Mail Server(POP3, SMTP) through a dynamic IP ?
I registered a free domain in dns2go.com(mydomain.dns2go.com). So it can
locate my server machine with this domain evrytime when I dialup.
How can I use this domain to setup my own email server in Linux ?
Best regards,
Eric
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: 16 Feb 2001 09:01:34 -0500
Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Bloody Viking wrote:
> >
> > Walt wrote:
> >
> > : In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people in
> > : local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections. And of
> > : course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
> >
> > And in Florida, the GOP does the same crap. And we all know about
> > the election debacle that ensued.
>
> So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
> counties?
it's a simple matter of statistics. imagine two voting districts.
one 70% repulican, 30% democrat. one 30% R and 70% D.
say that 10% of all ballots are not counted for whatever reason.
suppose further that political affiliation is independent to
counted/uncounted ballots. then, every ballot recovered in the
former, largely republican district, will be more likely to be
republican. in the latter district, they will tend to be democratic.
of course gore will push for a recount where it will help him most.
both parties did what they could to win. believing the rhetoric of
either of them is silly.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr
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From: "Frank Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Winders Millenium and the mbr.
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:18:36 -0500
> Does Winders Millenium take over the mbr? I've installed linux in the
past
> on machines with Win98 present and it set itself up as a dual boot box, no
> problem. Just got a WinMe box and things have gone way south. I can boot
> Linux but when I try to go for the Windows boot it just says it's starting
> Me and then hangs. Vendor of course can't be bothered to support Linux so
> that's not much help. (If it were'nt for relatives I'd have the whole
thign
> as a Linux box, so please let's not get into that argument.)
No it doesn't take over the MBR, I dual boot Windows Me and Linux.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank da Cruz)
Subject: Re: Serial port comunication
Date: 16 Feb 2001 14:26:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Cristian Sava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I would like to transfer some files through the serial port from my linux
: server to another machine and I can not figure out how to do it. I looked
: into the /dev directory, but I could not figure out which of those devices
: could be the serial port(COM1 or COM2). And I suppose some piece of software
: would be needed as well for enabling communication. Where can I find it?
: Please excuse my ignorance,
:
The safe way to transfer files across a serial port is Kermit:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/
You need a copy of Kermit for Linux:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckermit.html
and another copy for the other computer, whatever it is.
- Frank
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From: "Marcus Rudolph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what meens the +
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:39:30 +0100
should be means instead of meens ...
Marcus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hugh Lawson)
Subject: Re: fs across two hard disk
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:30:13 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, zms wrote:
>Hi,
>
>after creating the FS, I find I need one dir in FS1 need more space than
>I thought,
>so how can I let the dir use another disk, just this dir, so I can't
>create a symbol link
>to the other disk FS.
I'm not sure this is what you want but here is one answer.
Let's call the directory '/dir'. Let's call the other disk
'/dev/hdx' and assume that it is mounted as '/mnt/other'.
Copy the contents of '/dir' to '/mnt/other'. See documentation on 'cp' on
how to do this. It might take a little trial-and-error to do this right.
Check to make sure that the copy worked as expected.
$ umount /mnt/other
$ mount -t ext2 /dev/hdx /dir
This will cause '/dir' to reflect the contents of '/dev/hdx'.
Do some tests to make sure everything is ok. If it is, then you can
revise '/etc/fstab' to make '/dev/hdx' be mounted as '/dir' at bootup.
This procedure will devote the entirety of '/dev/hdx' to the '/dir'
directory. When you are sure all is well, you can umount /dev/hdx and
delete the /dir directory on the original disk. But be sure to umount
/dev/hdx before deleting. If you fail to do this, it will delete the data
on /dev/other.
--
Hugh Lawson
Greensboro, North Carolina
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Joseph Holland King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what meens the +
Date: 16 Feb 2001 14:48:28 GMT
Marcus Rudolph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: If I use the ls -A command I get a plus at the end of the line for some
: files. What does it mean?
: TIA
: Marcus
the man page for ls says that a + means that there is an ACL associated
with the file.
--
---
Joseph Holland King | "God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our
| conscience, but shouts in our pains: it is His
| megaphone to rouse a deaf world." C. S. Lewis
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Mail Server (POP3) setup ?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:09:00 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> Is it possible to setup a Mail Server(POP3, SMTP) through a dynamic IP ?
Yes, but you need to use a dynamic IP name registration service.
> I registered a free domain in dns2go.com(mydomain.dns2go.com). So it can
> locate my server machine with this domain evrytime when I dialup.
Then you're set.
> How can I use this domain to setup my own email server in Linux ?
Tell correspondents to address mail to you @mydomain.dns2go.com.
Configure your mail server (sendmail, Postfix, qmail, Exim, whatever)
to accept mail addressed to mydomain.dns2go.com, and be sure your
computer and mail server are running at all times, and that you use
whatever update procedures dns2go offers to keep its entries up to
date. Also, don't forget security -- both on the mail server program
(keep it up to date, make sure it's not configured to relay) and on the
computer as a whole (set up ipchains or iptables firewall rules,
disable unused servers, etc.). Note that many ISPs that assign dynamic
IP addresses don't want their customers to run servers. If this is the
case and you're found out, you could lose your network connection.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: Salvador Peralta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:31:05 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Walt wrote:
>
> : In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people
> : in
> : local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections. And of
> : course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
As someone who lives in Los Angeles, I can say that none of this made
the press here. Can you show us a source to support the claim of
election improprieties in LA, or are you just privvy to information
that the rest of us are unaware of?
--
Salvador Peralta -o)
Programmer/Analyst, Webmaster / \
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Davey)
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:50:48 GMT
In article <96gu50$te$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer) wrote:
>Their is certainly a strong element of faith in science. We
>accept the existence of that we have no direct knowledge (muons,
>for instance) based upon the assurances of people we have no
>direct knowledge. Is it really that far a stretch to believe
>Christ existed based on the works of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John
>than to believe black holes exist.
That's flawed. The existence of things like muons is theoretical, scientists
come up with theories to explain things and then others gather evidence to
either prove or disprove it. Atoms were also just theory at one point, but
through experimentation and the improvement of microscopes etc. their
existence was proved. That's how science works and how it moves forward. I've
not heard of muons so can't comment on that particular theory, but it'll
either be proven or disproven eventually. Or another theory (or breakthrough)
will take it's place.
It's possible that Christ existed, in fact I think there's more evidence than
just the bible to suggest that. Nothing though suggests he was anything more
than a jewish revolutionary who spoke out against the Romans. In fact there
was some more evidence about that discovered recently, the subject of an
interesting documentary called "the real jesus christ". It put everything in a
historical perspective and made a lot of sense. About how Paul used the death
of Jesus to create a religion, and hid the real man behind stories of
miracles etc. Very interesting stuff and lots of political intrigue and
infighting.
>Just as the religious rely on the collective experiences of those
>who have gone before, so does science. You certainly do not
>perform experiments to prove every article of science you encounter,
>you rely on faith that your predecessors performed their experiments
>correctly. Following the cold fusion debate, you can witness the
The difference is though that you can repeat those experiments. You're not
reliant on anyone else doing them. Frequently you do repeat past experiments,
that's how science is normally taught in schools.
>uproar tha ensues when experiments appear to challenge the preheld
>beliefs. The reaction of physicists is to deny and attack the new
>evidence just as fundamentalists attack evolution. If cold fusion
>yet proves out and is not the likely result of poorly conducted
>experimentation, the howls from physicists will equal the howls
>of those who originally shouted down the germ theory of Pasteur or
>the works of Charles Darwin.
If Cold Fusion were proven scientists would be jumping for joy, lots of people
have been working towards that particular vision. It's just that without being
repeatable, an experiment isn't really worth the paper it's written on. And if
no one can recreate a supposed experiment, then it's clearly either a
deception or not properly documented. In this case it appears to be the
former.
ian.
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/(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
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From: "Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftpaccess file question
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:50:59 -0600
Oliver,
Thanks for your reply. Red Hat 7 uses xinetd.conf which contains "includedir
/etc/xinetd.d" which contains a file named "wu-ftpd." Below is what the file
has in it. It looks like it is using -a.
# default: on
# description: The wu-ftpd FTP server serves FTP connections. It uses \
# normal, unencrypted usernames and passwords for authentication.
service ftp
{
disable = no
socket_type = stream
wait = no
user = root
server = /usr/sbin/in.ftpd
server_args = -l -a
log_on_success += DURATION USERID
log_on_failure += USERID
nice = 10
}
Thanks,
Charles
"Oliver Wiegand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Charles wrote:
> >
> > I have set up an FTP user on my Red Hat 7 machine. The user can FTP but
the
> > settings in the ftpaccess for are not being applied. How do I get the
users
> > FTP login to apply the rules in the ftpaccess file?
> >
> > I am using the same setup on my Slackware machine and it works properly.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Charles
>
> On my slackware box, I find this entry in /etc/inetd.conf:
> ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd wu.ftpd -l -i -a
>
> Looking at 'man ftpd' says:
> "If the -a option is specified, the use of the ftpaccess(5)
> configuration file is enabled. If the -A option is specified, use
> of the ftpaccess(5) configuration file is disabled. This is the
> default."
> Maybe redhat does not use the -a option ?
> Greetings Oli
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From: "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:58:38 GMT
You should at least give full directions before suggesting this.
Mount how? How do you run the install to point to the
partition? Is this distro specific?
"Jeremia d." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> He could just download the iso image and mount it like a regular cd.
> Anthony Purcell wrote:
>
> > You can download and install at the same time! Download the net bootdisk
and
> > when it prompts for installation method choose ftp and point it to
sunsite
> > or freesoftware.com. I use this method all the time why waste cds and or
> > disk space downloading iso's when you can just do it from the net. Im
> > assuming you have broadband connectivity if you are downloading iso
images
> > :o)
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> > --
> > "Richard Snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I try to download and install Linux on my computer, but I haven't
got a
> > CD
> > > > burner.
> > > > The only download methods I can find on the net is iso-images or all
the
> > > > individual files from FTP, which would take me days to download.
> > > > So I'm wondering if there's any way to unpack or convert the
ISO-images
> > to
> > > > individual files without having to burn a CD.
> > > > Or if anyone know of a site to download SuSE Linux 7 as a ZIP or
similar
> > > > archive file.
> > > > All help appreciated, and please no answers like "buy a CD burner".
> > > >
> > > > Audun
> > >
> > > try www.cheapbytes.com and order a cd shipped to you. ONly a few
> > > dollars plus shipping.
>
> --
> A little experience often upsets a lot of theory.
>
>
>
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