Linux-Misc Digest #760, Volume #20               Wed, 23 Jun 99 22:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Children's Software (Douglas Loss)
  StarOffice 5.1 on  RH 5.2 problems (Mark Ferraretto)
  Re: Terminal File Manager ("T.E.Dickey")
  Re: Can I put rules in my .xinitrc? (Warren Bell)
  Re: write Bat file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How to pronounce SuSE? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (was: Depoliticising the argument (was: 
The End of Free Software)) (David Kastrup)
  Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX (Alan Shutko)
  Archiver software wanted (Dirk Melcher)
  route insists on using dns, ifconfig on modifying the routing table... please help 
me! (Daniel Schaffrath)
  Re: A REALLY Dumb Question (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Children's Software (Robert Heller)
  Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks (DHobbs)
  mounting floppy read-only problem ("Marat Ruvinov")
  Re: System.map (Jasper Veltman)
  Re: Children's Software (Robert Heller)
  Re: Children's Software (Robert Heller)
  Internal ISDN modem support? (Grant Zemont)
  Internal ISDN modem support? (Grant Zemont)
  Re: RHL 6.0:  Broken Japanese text support ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux RAID-5 Problem w/ raidtools-0.90?? (Cokey de Percin)
  Default routing... ("R. Alcazar")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Loss)
Subject: Re: Children's Software
Date: 23 Jun 1999 18:40:07 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there any kind of children's software for linux?  I think a secure
> system like linux offers is best strategy for allowing children access
> to the computer.
> 
> If there is none, I would be willing to help develop some stuff, but I
> am by no means some child expert....it would be hard for me to design
> with children in mind so I would need help.

I've been managing the SEUL Project's educational software section for 
about six months now.  You can see what we're doing at 
<http://www.seul.org/edu/>.  Basically, we're trying to foster educational
applications for Linux.  That means lobbying educational software houses to 
port to Linux, developing programs for use in schools (and in homes, 
although we haven't focussed on that yet), and figuring out ways to make 
Linux easier to use and more acceptable in the educational world and to 
home users interested in their children's education.

We invite everyone who's interested to visit our website, look over our 
various subprojcets, browse through our email archives, and join our 
mailing list.  We can certainly use the help, and we'll be happy to support 
anyone who is working to develop educational applications for Linux.

-- 
Doug Loss            Democracy substitutes election by the
[EMAIL PROTECTED]    incompetent many for appointment by
(570) 326-3987       the corrupt few.
                        George Bernard Shaw

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:48:29 +0930
From: Mark Ferraretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
stardivision.com.support.unix,stardivision.com.support.misc,stardivision.com.support.installation
Subject: StarOffice 5.1 on  RH 5.2 problems

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Hello,

I installed SO5.1 on my RH5.2 box.  Install went OK but SO breaks
whenever it has to read files on my fat32 filesystem!  More
specifically, it doesn't like any files or directories on that
filesystem that contain spaces.  So going into /dosc/My Documents/... is
not possible.  Once I double-click on 'My Documents', I get a blank
window and a blank title bar as well.

If I copy the My documents tree to a linux fs, then all is well.

Can anyone help?

Thanks
Mark

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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Terminal File Manager
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:26:00 GMT

Tarkaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone remember Word Perfect for DOS?  I found a package that was made
> back in 1984 or so that had only the file manager.  It was nothing at
> all, really, but it was quick, easy to use, and very intuitive.  It
> included basic commands only (copy, move, change active directory,
> things like that).  Is there something like that for a linux terminal? 
> Or do I need to learn C and write one? :)

> Just to let you know where I'm coming from, I was really irate when
> everyone started using Xtree Gold, I thought it had too many options. :)

well, then you won't like Midnight Commander.

There's a few things like (what you are looking for) floating about, but
not too many that are maintained.  (I maintain one, but it's out of your
range as well).  You might be able to find a copy of 'files' around.
And someone had a much-reduced clone of flist, plus another whose name
escapes me at the moment.

> Would there be a market for this if I were to write one?  Do you think
> people would use it?

no.

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:23:17 -0700
From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I put rules in my .xinitrc?

Sorry for the multiple posts.


Warren Bell wrote:
> 
> I have two different window managers I use.  Can I put somthing in my
> xintrc file that says somthing like
> 
> if the option -wm is present with xinit then
> exec windowmaker
> else
> exec default
> 
> can you do this?  If so could somone give me an example?
> 
> Thanks
> Warren Bell

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: write Bat file
Date: 24 Jun 1999 00:34:23 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
= [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb
= am 11 Jun 1999 13:03:52 GMT in comp.os.linux.misc:
= lms> In his obvious haste, edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
= lms> : Just like window95  *.bat file.  I want to write a BAT file in linux to
= lms> : common a series of command.  What should i do? Can anyone teach me how
= lms> : to do it?  Thanks!

= lms> What do you mean by "common" a series of commands?

= Why did you not help him ?

Because I was waitinf for him to clarify what he wanted. My english to not
very good english translator wasn't working.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to pronounce SuSE?
Date: 24 Jun 1999 00:28:29 GMT

John Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
= John Emmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
= :     Ok, I know this is trivial, but I just did a search on Deja News and
= : looked at their website, and I can't find the answer.  How does one
= : pronounce SuSE?  Is it like 'use' or like 'uzi'?

=       When I asked to get SuSE burned on CDROM, the guy said, "Oh, you 
= mean SuSE..."  He pronounced like you would "Lucy", only with an S 
= instead of an L.  Sue-cy.


I tend to pronounce it Soos...
(I don't know how it's meant to be)
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (was: Depoliticising the 
argument (was: The End of Free Software))
Date: 24 Jun 1999 02:48:16 +0200

Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I once had a fricking RedHate system claim to be installing for a
> "server" (whatever that meant), newfs my disk (which was fine), and
> then not bother to install a dump program -- or more importantly, a
> restore program!  Hello?  Knock knock knock.  Is there anybody home?
> What the hell were these people thinking?

That the presence of rhbackup, dd, tar, and cpio would offer enough to
make a reasonable possibility to create a useful backup solution?

Actually, dump is really usable only if you run it on read-only
mounted file systems or in single-user mode, which is often not an
option for continuous server operation.

Apart from which I fail to see the connection with balkanization.  We
were not discussin the differing *qualities* of different
distributions now, were we?

> Or what about about the time a Linux distribution install new
> dynalinked utilities and then crapped out for lack of disk space
> before they could get the libraries in?  That was lots of fun, too.

Where is the message about balkanization?  It is fine to be ranting
about Linux in general, but you are off-topic.

> And no fricking manpages for anything you need to have.  The shame!

Well, I presume the info pages are offensive?

> Don't get me started.  And that's really just the bare start of it.
> It's a horribly tangled mess, and I could go on all night.

Again, I don't consider quality differences "balkanization", let alone
lack of quality.  Focus.

> Do I have something good to say?  Why, yes.  I do.  It's my hope and
> belief that the ramifying balkanization of Linux we're now seeing
> will improve this terrible situation, because real people won't put
> up with this bullshit, and it's a competitive advantage to get these
> things right.

You bet.  The installation situation made me switch from SLS to
Slackware to RedHat, and if RedHat does not get its act together soon
(their end testing department must really feature a few bozos if
anybody at all), I will leave them for Debian.  No kernel features or
applications I would have to abandon for such a step.

> If I had had anything to do with putting out a Unix distribution as
> shoddy as some as these have been, back when that used to be my job,
> I would have not only lost my job, I likely would have been held
> criminally negligent as well.

I certainly agree with some of that sentinent with regard to RedHat.
Still, weren't we talking about balkanization?

> And if I had given one of my (multi-million dollar account) Unix
> customers something as different as is one Linux distribution to the
> next, he would have personally ripped my fingernails out and used
> them to eviscerate my eyeballs with.

Well, there is the difference.  Linux is about $50, not $x000000.
This does not mean that RedHat could not well be better for their
money, but it makes the customer bite the bullet a lot more.


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From: Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX
Date: 23 Jun 1999 15:51:30 -0500

Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > Not just LaTeX is affected.  Dozens of packages are upgraded
> > incompletely.  It is a mess.

> IIRC, it's not that the packages are broken, it's actually that rpm
> --verify has some problems.

Wrong RPM bug.  Although RPM does have a problem verifying against a
RPM file, it can verify against its database perfectly well.  This is
bug 2727 (http://developer.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2727):

 ------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  05/15/99 16:58 -------
 This is an rpm/installer bug. Files shared between packages were
 not correctly identified as shared and consequently were removed
 during an upgrade. Using rpm -e and rpm -i for the affected
 packages will work. This problem is fixed in rpm-3.0.1. There
 will be an errata for both the installer and rpm Real Soon Now.

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Check http://rescomp.wustl.edu/~ats/ for a resume.
The things that interest people most are usually none of their business.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dirk Melcher)
Subject: Archiver software wanted
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Jun 1999 22:20:50 +0100

Hi everybody,

I am looking for an archiver software with a special requirement:
The program should be optimized to fetch single files out of a large
archive consisting of many files. This should happen very fast. I
imagine that for this task the archive should contain a header where
the position of each file within the archive is written. As far as I
know archiver like ar, tar and cpio just stick the single files one
ofter another so that the archiver program has to search until the end
of the archive if the reauired file is just at the end. Any
suggestions?

Dirk

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From: Daniel Schaffrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: route insists on using dns, ifconfig on modifying the routing table... please 
help me!
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:11:38 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sorry for the cross-posting -- but I really need you help!

Dear Guys,

nsswitch reads to translate hostnames just by "files". host.conf too....
but

"route add -host anyhost dev anydev"

wants to talk to the name server..... I straced it... and it really
queries bind for anyhost and nothing more..... although libnss_files
gets loaded, afterwards libns_dns gets loaded.

"ping anyhost" does NOT behave like this... it just uses files as it
should.

Does anyone know why route always uses dns!? Is this a bug perhaps, or a
bug in the resolver.... this behavior appears only with route of SuSE
Linux -gt 6.0.

btw: does anyone know why ifconfig modifies the routing table if you set up a new
device?! for instance

 ifconfig ippp4 192.168.3.1 dstaddr 192.168.1.1

yields a route in the kernel to 192.168.1.0 dev ippp4. Isn't that strange!?

thank you in advance,
Dan

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Subject: Re: A REALLY Dumb Question
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 Jun 1999 21:13:02 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams) writes:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>=     Of course, I'm told that in the "official" pronunciation of GNU the "g"
> >>= is actually pronounced... though again I've never met anyone in real life
> >>= that didn't pronounce it the same as "new" (which seems to make a hell of
> >>= alot more sense to me!).
> >
> >And the soundbyte of Linus T pronouncing "Linux" sounds like he's saying
> >"Lee-nooks"  ;-)

> I think the lee-nooks is cause he had a pronouced accent then.  No
> one would say that in Canada or the states.

he doesn't have an accent.  he just speaks a finish dialect of swedish.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Children's Software
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:05:40 GMT

  jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:30:25 -0700, wrote :

j> > IB> Having played with my nephew and niece (3 and 2), I'm aware how difficult
j> > IB> it is for them simply to move the mouse around and coordinate it with the
j> > IB> pointer on screen.  So a toddlers game could just be a really simple
j> > IB> hide-and-seek kind of thing (move the pointer over different coloured
j> > 
j> > xroach, xbill ?
j> 
j> Isn't xroach that program that infects your desktop with a bunch of
j> skittery roaches?  Not really something a kid could play with is it? 
j> Might interest them for a short time, but really very little
j> interaction.

The roaches can be squished.  Toss on a collection of random windows
(say with a simple Tcl/Tk program) that can be moved about to find the
roaches (which 'hide' under windows).  All sorts of possibilities...

j> 
j> Haven't tried xbill.

You have a window with some little workstation images.  Each workstation
has a O/S logo on its screen: rainbow Apple, a red hat, a penguin, a
little red devil, a Sun logo, a SGI logo, etc.  Along comes one or more
'nerds' (that look like a certain fellow from Redmond, WA), carrying a
box with a *different* O/S logo on it.  The nerds approach workstations
and install this *other* O/S and take the existing O/S away.  The object
of the game is to 'squish' the nerds before all of your workstations
turn into toasters.  You squish a nerd with the mouse.

j> 
j> > Tcl/Tk is great for this.  I wrote an animated fish tank program in
j> > Tcl/Tk, originally for a counting program for kids.  Pure Tcl -- totally
j> > cross platform.
j> 
j> Well were is it?  A disscussion about the shortage of child programming
j> in linux and you have it but don't mention a url? :P  Just
j> kidding...really though, I would like to know.
j>               

Opps. I forgot.  Here it is:

http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller/Workshop/Fish.tcl.gz




                                                                                       
      
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From: DHobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:28:10 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Here is my comment for those who honestly believe that
> > Microsoft has anything to fear from the "free (taxpayer
> > supported) software" movement:

Taxpayer Supported??  That's a new one.

When did the tax payers start supporting Linux?

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From: "Marat Ruvinov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mounting floppy read-only problem
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:02:36 -0400

Under Red-Hat Linux 5.2, when I try to mount the floppy drive
- "mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy" I always get
the following -
"/dev/fd0 is read-only file system"

I want it to be writable ....

What should I do????

-Marat




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jasper Veltman)
Subject: Re: System.map
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:37:24 GMT

On 23 Jun 1999 14:44:11 GMT, David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I just moved up to kernel 2.2.10 (from the 2.2.5-?? in RH 6).  The problem
>is on boot:  I get a message about System.map being the wrong kernel
>version.  Does anyone know why?  This never used to happen to me when
>upgrading my kernel.

I got the same when I compiled a new kernel on a floppy disk, when I
did a 'make install' everything went alright.... maybe a small bug. A
System.map with a wrong version didn't seem to cause problems though.

Jasper Veltman

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Children's Software
Date: 24 Jun 1999 01:05:33 GMT

  jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:33:52 -0700, wrote :

j> Hmm, my 4 year old neice (just turned 4 too) can work the pointer pretty
j> good.  If the mouse had just 1 button, using gimp would be ok.  My
j> nephewe is too hyper to get the point of any of it...he just shakes
j> everything.

In *theory* it should be possible to use xmodmap to map all three
buttons to Button-1 (which would be a bitch for a serious X user).  I
don't suppose a Mac mouse would work on a PC (but there is Linux for the
Mac).

j> > 
j> > Ian
j>                    






                                                                             
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Children's Software
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:05:37 GMT

  jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:12:13 -0700, wrote :

j> Jonathan Chattin wrote:
j> > 
j> > jik- ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
j> > [massive snip]
j> > : Small joystick/keyboard operated arcade games...pacman....etc...
j> > : Then some existing software...card games...etc...
j> > [more snipping]
j> > 
j> > I don't know about the rest, but you can get a public domain pacman game
j> > for snes9x (and other snes emulators) at http://zophar.net/.  Seems to be a
j> > fairly decent game.
j> > 
j> > Just a thought...
j> 
j> Well, one it was just an example, and two I would rather it not be
j> emulated.  Would be much better to have it running natively.
j>                                  

Well, if your neice likes the arcade game where some sort of critter
pops up and you have to bop it with a club, then she will like xbill --
runs native under Linux.




                           
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From: Grant Zemont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Internal ISDN modem support?
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:47:44 -0500

Are there any Linux drivers in existence for USR internal ISDN modems in
the U.S.?  ANY help would be apprecited.  Thanks.


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From: Grant Zemont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Internal ISDN modem support?
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:49:07 -0500

Are there any Linux drivers in existence for USR internal ISDN modems in
the U.S.?  ANY help would be apprecited.  Thanks.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,fj.os.linux,japan.comp.linux
Subject: Re: RHL 6.0:  Broken Japanese text support
Date: 24 Jun 1999 01:09:58 GMT

I use FreeBSD(i.e. no Linux), but I think there's little difference
between them in these problems.

In <7kqqos$6a5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am having difficulty getting Japanese support working under Red Hat 6.0.  
> I downloaded and installed the following packages:
> 
>   kinput2-v2fix5alpha1-4.i386.rpm

FYI: kinput2's latest is now v3.0.
        (I don't know about rpm package, though)

> Yet, when "wnn" attempts to start, it aborts with the following error:
> 
>   Starting Wnn4 server: 
>   Nihongo Multi Client Server (4.20)
>   : can't bind inet-socket

Any old /tmp/jd_sock* like socket's remaining before running jserver?
How about wnnstat(1) message?

> If I try to run "kinput2 -wnn" to enable my FEP, I get the following error
> (as one would expect, given the failure of Wnn to run):
> 
>   Warning: ccWnn Object: can't connect to jserver
>   Warning: ccWnn Object: can't connect to jserver

If jserver is running(check by wnnstat command),
and specifying JSERVER like "kinput2 -wnn -jserver localhost"
still doesn't work, please post again.
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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux RAID-5 Problem w/ raidtools-0.90??
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:14:49 +0000

Matthew Coene wrote:
> 
> I have a Dual-P3-450 Box running RedHat 6.0 and kernel version 2.2.9.
> The drives I have are a 2.1 Gb UDMA (only used as a Boot / System Drive)
> 
> 4 IBM 9.1 GB U2W SCSI Drives w/ 2Mb Cache
> 
> I have successfully created all of the partitions across all of the 4
> drives, and have properly made the /etc/raidtab file
> 
> A sample of this, for my /dev/md0 device is....
> 
> raiddev /dev/md0
>     raid-level            5
>     nr-raid-disks      4
>     nr-spare-disks   0
>     chunk-size          4
>     parity algorithm    left-symmetric
> device    /dev/sda1
> raid-disk    0
> device    /dev/sdb1
> raid-disk    1
> device    /dev/sdc1
> raid-disk    2
> device    /dev/sdd1
> raid-disk    3
> 
> This format worked perfectly under kernel version 2.2.5, athough I found the
> raid to be a little flaky.
> 
> Under the 2.2.9 kernel ver like I mentioned above, when I do a
> "mkraid --really-force /dev/md0", it appears to view the drives correctly,
> but the returns "mkraid aborted" for no apparent reason.
> 
> I have heard that the raid-tools are kernel-raid-patch specific, and that
> some of the ioctl numbers have changed throughout the history.. But so far I
> have been unable to track down any version that will work with my setup...
> 
> If anyone has any information which could help it would be immensely
> appreciated, as I am currently pulling my hair out struggling to comprehend
> why nothing is being reported to the syslog and mkraid isn't returning and
> useable troubleshooting info...
> 

Yup, there seems to be a problem with software raid starting with
kernel 2.2.6 and up AFAIK.  I've got 2.2.10 at work on a machine 
with a working raid0 (under 2.2.5) and it no longer works.  If I 
reboot in 2.2.5 everything works just fine.  I'm not sure what the
problem/answer is, but it seems that the raidtools and kernel are
out of sync.... :-(

Best

Cokey

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From: "R. Alcazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Default routing...
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:54:16 -0500

Hello All,

I have configured my machine with PPP and a dummy ethernet connection.  I
have to disable the ethernet connection in order to properly run PPP.  I
understand that this is a routing problem (perhaps my default route is on my
ethernet) and I don't know how to fix this.

I probably want to set no default route to my ethernet.  I'm running RHL
6.0.  Can anyone advise me on the proper commands or procedures to do this?


Thanks much,
R. Alcazar



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