Linux-Misc Digest #797, Volume #20 Sat, 26 Jun 99 13:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Conveting plain-text username and password files (William Burrow)
Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic] (Dan Carson)
Re: Linux 2.2.10 does not know make zImage?? (Curtis Newton)
diald routing problem (Nick Birkett)
Re: Help with crontab (Ken Gray)
Henryk Paluch's Lexmark 5700 Printer driver ("Frederik Meerwaldt")
Re: Where can I get free Linux CD? ("M. Smith")
Re: NT the best web platform? ("John Hughes")
Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues. (Gene Wilburn)
Re: mail question (Tom Shannon)
Re: I'm thinking about installing Linux (Tom Shannon)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Which Linux for beginner? (Alex Lam)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Jonathan Guthrie)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Jonathan Guthrie)
Suse 6.0 or Redhat 6.0 ("Y.H.")
Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX (Michal Jaegermann)
Re: Automatic FTP a file ("Al @Home")
Re: Best sound card for use w/ Linux? ("Petr Hlavka")
Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues. (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Celeron Compatibility (Alex Lam)
trouble with CS4232 sound card (LittleElmo)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Conveting plain-text username and password files
Date: 25 Jun 1999 20:39:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:14:39 +0000,
Kerry J. Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm assisting in helping some users go from plain-text username and
>password files to Linux. Currently, all the users on this sytem (over
>1000) have their login names and passwords in a simple flat-file
>format. I need to provide some way to enter all these users onto a
>Linux system without doing it by hand.
> Does anyone know of a simple script that would go through a flat
>file database and would then enter all the usernames and passwords onto
>a Linux system? It would be RedHat 6.0.
Just indicate how the flat file database is setup (a few ``fake''
samples might assist), and undoubtedly somebody will come up with a
quick script to do it.
> Thanks. Please email me as well as I don't always have the time to
>check these newsgroups.
Please take the time to check, just use the search or scoring facility
of your reader to find the subject line.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: Dan Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic]
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:58:56 -0700
On 24 Jun 1999, Dale Henderson wrote:
> I am very aware of why there are few to no virus written for Unix
> systems. It is because it would be impractical. As I've said
> before, the only way to do any real damage on a Unix box is with
> root access. And the practicality of hacking root in a virus is
> nil.
Unfortunately, "hacking root" is getting more practical all the time. For
some reason, some people want Linux to "compete" with Microsoft. So in the
interest of making Linux "easy to use", the Standard Operating Procedure
is becoming:
1. Download anything you see on the net with a '.rpm' extension.
2. su root.
3. Type rpm -whatever.
4. Voila! Something happened! I have no idea what, but whatever it was,
it ran as root!
Now maybe /bin/ls is suid root and does something in addition to the
standard functionality.
Am I just being paranoid?
-Dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis Newton)
Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.10 does not know make zImage??
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:30:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Jun 1999 09:44:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg
Schwarz) wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller) writes:
>
>
>>I see that your prompt says "antarktis 127% ~/linux>". Umm, what is your
>>current directory when you type the "make zImage" command? You need to be in
>>"/usr/src/linux" directory.
>
>I have unpacked the kernel sources into my ~ due to space limitations on
>/usr.
>
I got the exact same error when I tried the command "make zImage". I
cd'd to the correct directory and it went perfectly.
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Please delete ".remove" to reply.
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the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it is
unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such equipment. By
Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is
punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever
is greater, for each violation.
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From: Nick Birkett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: diald routing problem
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:37:55 +0100
I have a routing problem (tried with diald 0.16 and 0.99) in that my
ppp0 interface comes up
but the default route stays with the sl0 interface / or there is no
forwarding taking place
as there is no route out :
Before ppp dialup route looks like :
acorn:~$ netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt
Iface
192.168.3.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1500 0 0
sl0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1500 0 0
eth0
192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1500 0 0
eth1
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 3584 0 0
lo
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 1500 0 0
sl0
After dialup route looks like :
acorn:~$ netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt
Iface
192.168.3.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1500 0 0
sl0
195.102.255.163 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1500 0 0
ppp0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1500 0 0
eth0
192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1500 0 0
eth1
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 3584 0 0
lo
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 1500 0 0
sl0
The same even if I use the -reroute option. But there is no route out.
The dialup script uses defaultroute and noipdefault and works fine by
itself.
Anybody know what is wrong ?
Thanks,
--
Nick Birkett
Oxford University Computing Laboratory
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Gray)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Help with crontab
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:44:06 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sudsy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can't vouch for your particular system, but I've never worked on a system
>where cron has died. As one of the oldest, simplest and most robust of the
>system utilities, I no more worry about cron dying than I do inetd. JMHO.
>
Oh, I can't say as I've ever seen it die - I just like to see things
happening rather than make any assumptions. Call it habit from doing years
of tech support, the number one rule being "Never assume ANYTHING!".
Ken
--
"Time flies like an arrow - fruit flies like a banana"
- G. Marx
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From: "Frederik Meerwaldt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: at.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Henryk Paluch's Lexmark 5700 Printer driver
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:43:08 +0200
Hi all,
I've got the latest version of Henryk Paluch's Lexmark 5700 Printer
Driver for Linux.
I compiled as he wrote (Make (then) Make install). I'm using SuSE 6.0
Now he wrote in his readme that I have to change the /etc/printcap file.
The problem is that I'll access this printer via network because it's
connected to a remote NT machine. (It won't matter if I have to use TCP/IP
Printing or Samba (NetBios printing (I think)). What entry do I need to do
in the /etc/printcap file???
I'm a total newbie (using Linux for 4 Days ;-)) and I'm happy that I
configured X-Windows correctly. Now my only prob is the printer.
Thanks in advance for answer, (via E-Mail, too if it is possible.)
Freddy
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From: "M. Smith" <smithm@mvpdotnet>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where can I get free Linux CD?
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:32:31 -0500
Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7ktrn2$ptf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Can anybody tell me where I can order free, or cheap, Linux CDs on the
web?
> I'm a newbie (can't you tell?) who's hungry to get his hands on a disk.
> Please help. Thanks in advance!
Ever consider visiting your local library? I recently installed Linus on one
of my PC's and took out the "Linus for Dummies" book and the Sams Linux
book. Both came with installation CD's.
Can't get much cheaper than your local library....
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From: "John Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:14:16 +0100
There are now 4 benchmarks for your perusal and you still cant see it.
*sigh*
It seems that your the one supplying the FUD. Unless you have some concrete
evidence otherwise.
Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "John Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > There is a cost basis on this summary which is based on Mindcraft AND PC
> > weeks/magazines independant benchmark.
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/exec/compares/ntlinux.asp
> >
> > This shows NT to be far cheaper based on price/performance.
>
> Again, John is wallowing in FUD:
>
> 1) It is comparing ISAPI with Apache/CGI (and not taking into
> account that most people only have to saturate a T1 before they're
> happy). It isn't too difficult for math pea-brains to take
> ridiculous results (680% faster) and multiply hardware costs to
> make Linux more expensive.
>
> But if you believe them, then that says more about you...
>
> 2) It sites the original Mindcraft tests and then assumes that NT is
> (and I quote) "227 percent faster". Again, a lie of the most
> general variety; some contrived situation does not extrapolate
> to the general case.
>
> 3) It sites "Lack of testing" as a reason not to use Linux -- We have
> been using it as our enterpise backbone for almost 4 years now
> without any problems. Cisco has been using it for their global
> print systems without any problems. Burlington Coat Factory is
> using Linux in their enterprise efforts without problems... etc.
> Where is NT on the world's top 500 fastest computers? Oh, it must
> be junk because it isn't there (using Microsoft's TCP logic).
>
> This is pure grade-A FUD from Microsoft.
>
> AND FINALLY: If quad-NIC performance is ever so important, why
> doesn't Microsoft use them in their enterprise servers at
> microsoft.com?
>
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Gene Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues.
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:14:56 GMT
Russ Allbery wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> Welcome to the current sorry state of SGML documentation. A while back, I
> looked through a whole bunch of web pages and sgmltools-related packages
> trying to find some usable documentation. The only thing I managed to
> find were DTDs and documentation that read like DTDs.
>
> I've had far more than enough of reading DTDs for one lifetime, thank you.
> They do not constitute documentation.
>
> The SGML folks appear to have done what the LDAP standardization folks
> also seem to be doing, namely invent a brand new language to talk about
> what they do. I'm sure it must work quite well for them, and I can see
> the utility in having well-defined terms, but they have to also write
> documentation that explains this to the rest of the world or no one is
> going to *use* anything they produce.
>
> --
> Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
A newbie question: have any document projects been started around XML as
a simpler, perhaps more accessible, base than full SGML?
Gene
--
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Gene Wilburn, Northern Journey Online, http://www.interlog.com/~njo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Shannon)
Subject: Re: mail question
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:53:01 -04-59
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:50:33 -0700, John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi I have RedHat 5.2 installed at home and it works fine. It is connected to
>ADSL and I have my own IP address(no domain name yet).
>I can send mail to others(i use pine) but they cannot send mail to me.
>My email acount is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and can send mail to outside
>world but outside world cannot send any mail to me.
>Anybody knows what is going on?
>what do i need to put in pine's configuration as my e-mail address so i can
>get mail send to me?
As a little test you might have someone send the message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Assuming this works, you need to get the
domain name setup first.
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Shannon)
Subject: Re: I'm thinking about installing Linux
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:47:13 -04-59
>
>Scott Arpajian wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking about installing Linux at home. I want to dual boot with
>>
>> Windows 98. Any good suggestions on where to find information for
>>
>> beginners on installing Linux?
Just a little advice. Play _very_ close attention to hardware
compatability. I'd be willing to bet money that many of the people
who have trouble installing Linux have incompatible hardware.
For what it worth,
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 15:20:03 GMT
On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:15:44 +0100, John Hughes wrote:
>There is a cost basis on this summary which is based on Mindcraft AND PC
>weeks/magazines independant benchmark.
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/exec/compares/ntlinux.asp
>
>This shows NT to be far cheaper based on price/performance.
Of course it does, after all, it was written by Microsoft.
There are a number of flaws with this analysis.
Here are some flawed assumptions:
(a) the most cost effective linux box is has multiple CPUs
(b) the most cost effective linux box has more than one NIC
(c) the company in question has unlimited bandwidth ( or at least
more than NT can saturate )
(d) purchase of an NT system will not require purchases of third party
software to perform functions that linux performs out of the box
(e) the web server will only be serving flat files
If you really want high end performance, and you are paying that much for
the server hardware, few would dispute that Solaris X86 beats linux by
a long way on performance, and is not *substantially* more expensive
( $540- is not substantial when your server hardware costs $10,000 )
On the other hand, if you don't need to saturate four T1 connections with one
box, then linux is still very cost effective.
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing
Date: 25 Jun 1999 15:57:05 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ship no program without proper documentation. Prototypes for
>your pals is one thing. Putting it on a CD or releasing it as
>non-alpha is something else entirely. If it doesn't have docs,
>it doesn't ship. Simple rule.
I agree with the sentiment, but the reality today is that the
first thing you have to do when you need documentation is to
browse the home site to check for updates and known bugs,
so you might as well read their on-line copy of the documentation
while you are there. The same is true for commercial stuff.
I can't imagine someone digging through printed Cisco manuals
instead of doing a search on their web site.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux for beginner?
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:19:55 -0700
Artur Leung wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am interested in setting up Linux besides my usual Win95/NT
> environment. I came across the Slakware and RedHat Linux. Which one
> should I install? What is the major difference between these two
> products? Any info. is welcome.
>
> Artur
> 6.25.99
SuSE 6.0 0r 6.1. MUCH better hardware supports and detection.
And much easier to install and config. YaST and SaX are much better than
the way Redhat use for configuring.
I've installed SuSE in 5 different boxes for myself and friends (from
old Pentium 133 / IDE system to AMD K-6-2 3D Now, to brand new dual cpu
P-2 full U2SCSIW system,) Redhat chocked on ALL of them, but SuSE
installed smoothly without a single hiccup.
The installer in Redhat is buggy.
Slackware is for the experienced, or very brave newbies.
Alex Lam.
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From: Jonathan Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 14:33:42 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking Terry Carmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you take NT certified hardware, install NT, the web server of your
> choice and a recent service pack, then log off and walk away from the
> console, it will run quite nicely for a very long time.
But I run Linux on crap hardware that NT turns its nose up at and if my
service ever got down to 99.8% availability (which is about 15 minutes per
week) on the single machine that runs each of those tasks (Microsoft uses
a server farm running any given task to achieve their availablility,) I
would have users screaming in my ear and ringing my phone of the wall.
> The biggest reason NT has less uptime is mostly because people can't
> resist installing all sorts of new software that may or may not leak
> resources, and may or may not replace core OS components with versions
> that are either incompatible or buggy.
> Modifying the kernel under Linux requires a recompile. Modifying core
> NT components requires nothing more than leaving a DLL where the OS
> can find it.
Oh? The last time I added devices to a system, (a PC-DIO card to control
pump motors as part of an embedded system that I'm working on) I didn't
have to recompile the kernel, neither did I have to reboot. I just
compiled a module and told the system about it. Windows is NOT the only
system that has DLL's!
The question I have is why would an application, even if it's a server
task, need to modify core NT components? I install all kinds of things
(servers for FTP, HTTP, SMB, LDAP, DHCP, NCP, to name a few) under Linux
and haven't ONCE needed to change the kernel functionality to run them.
Perhaps NT isn't as well designed as you think it is.
--
Jonathan Guthrie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Brokersys +281-895-8101 http://www.brokersys.com/
12703 Veterans Memorial #106, Houston, TX 77014, USA
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From: Jonathan Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 14:59:49 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking Terry Carmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Because if you actually did this for a living, you would notice that
> now and then a customer will request a specific OS, and it's much more
> profitable to smile and take their money and give them what they want,
> than to try to convert them to your religion and sell them something
> else.
> It makes absolutely no difference to me if it needs a diesel-powered
> network interface or new starch for the floppy drive. If the customer
> wants it, who cares what it runs on?
This is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this or any other
newsgroup. It shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the way business
works and how your time is best spent.
Usually, I am trusted by my customers to be able to suggest the form of a
solution. After all, It's results that count, not whether or not I or
they line Mr. Gates's pockets. Yes, I sometimes get requests from
customers for things that run on hardware or under software that I don't
support. I don't preach to those customers, for that would be just as big
a waste of my time, I simply tell them "no". Usually, they ask me for my
reasons, and I tell them. They offer me more money. I still tell them no.
Eventually, if they are truly interested in whatever it is they said they
want, they go elsewhere.
This makes far more business sense than doing whatever the customer says
they want you to do. Instead of wasting all my time learning VM/CMS JCL
for the ONE customer who wants ONE application, I learn the skills needed
to deliver similar solutions to hundreds of customers simultaneously.
Each one pays as much as that one customer with the wierd requirements and
it's a whole lot easier. Works like a champ, too.
What a business is prepared to sell at any given time is what the business
schools call the "focus" of a business. Figure out what you want to sell
and get really good at selling it. (Before Bill Gates, the richest
private citizen was Sam Walton, who made billions from a "five and dime"
store. He knew all about "focus".) The hard part is figuring out what
you're going to sell. However, it really isn't all THAT hard.
--
Jonathan Guthrie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Brokersys +281-895-8101 http://www.brokersys.com/
12703 Veterans Memorial #106, Houston, TX 77014, USA
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From: "Y.H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Suse 6.0 or Redhat 6.0
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:45:54 +0800
I'm planning to try out Linux lately and I'm looking for one that's easy to
setup. Can anyone comment on the above mentioned version of Linuxs' setup?
Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanx!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michal Jaegermann)
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX
Date: 26 Jun 1999 15:37:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adrian Burd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I agree with your philosophy though, which is why I switched to Suse
: from Redhat.
As far as teTeX package is concerned exactly the same bugs which were
present in what was included with Red Hat 5.2 (xdvi does not react on
interactive attempts to change gamma and has other keyboard handling is
rather wobbly, for example) showed up in much later SuSE 6.1; so I see
a little evidence why switching helps with anything here.
In a somewhat general terms - recently I spent some time delving a bit
deeper and customizing, on a laptop, an installation basically SuSE 6.1.
The longer I am doing that the more and more I start to like Red Hat. :-)
Whatever.... you can survive with both. :-)
Michal
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From: "Al @Home" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Automatic FTP a file
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:13:49 GMT
Adam,
I use Expect to automate ftp through firewalls to remote systems. Go to
http://expect.nist.gov/index.html for details.
Al
Adam Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I need to write a shell to automatically FTP one file to a secure FTP site
> from a Linux machine.
>
> What I am attempting in the FTP command line program is
>
> ftp sitename
> (automatically put in username and password)
> cd directory
> put local file
> quit
>
> ANy suggestions how I can automate this program
>
> Adam Armstrong
> Systems Manager
> BES Information Technology Systems
> Brisbane, QLD Australia
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: "Petr Hlavka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Best sound card for use w/ Linux?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 17:36:58 +0200
I use Pine PCI card based on S3 Sonicvibes chip. It works quite good,
although the driver has some problems. This card can also play midis through
ist FM synth. using standard kernel OPL3 driver. It sometimes works in alsa
to.
Petr Hlavka
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.text.sgml
Subject: Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:50:36 GMT
On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:14:56 GMT, Gene Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>A newbie question: have any document projects been started around XML as
>a simpler, perhaps more accessible, base than full SGML?
Not thus far.
The "Sgmltools" project is using DocBook with SGML; since Norm Walsh
(http://nwalsh.com) has a prototype XML DTD for DocBook, and since there
exist tools that can readily turn SGML into the equivalent XML, this has
been considered a minor issue.
The complexity of the Sgmltools project comes not from the complexity
of the parser, but from:
a) The complexity of the DTD, and
b) The complexity of the tools for rendering output into useful formats.
Those two factors do not substantially change when you move from SGML to
XML, and do not really relate to the differences between the two.
The difference between SGML and XML is mainly that it's easier to write a
parser.
Once the document gets turned into a tree of nodes, what you do with it
is the SAME whether you're using SGML or XML.
The real point is that XML is not particularly "more accessible" than
full SGML, and certainly not from the perspective of anyone that isn't
writing a parser or developing using a parser.
[Another "real difference" is that if you are writing an application that
needs to work with structured data, it's easier to integrate in an XML
parser. That is *almost* the same issue.]
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Celeron Compatibility
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:21:59 -0700
Ron Gibson wrote:
>
> Someone is telling me that Celeron CPU's have compatibility problems.
> Has anyone experienced any?
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From what I've read. Celeron *might* have problem with Winblown2000 or
something from Micro$ux.
Got my Celeron 400 with a Shuttle Hot 661 mobo running here very
happily, so is AMD K-6-2 3D Now with an Epox mobo.
Alex Lam.
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From: LittleElmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: trouble with CS4232 sound card
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:08:27 GMT
I have been trying to get my sound card to work for the past 6 months
I have a Crystal pnp 4232. I am running a 2.0.35-1 kernel
These are the current settings I have tried:
Sound Driver:3.5.4-960630 (Thu Jun 24 22:34:24 EDT 1999 root,
Linux poohcorner 2.0.35 #1 Mon Mar 29 09:40:49 EST 1999 i586 unknown)
Kernel: Linux poohcorner 2.0.35 #2 Thu Jun 24 22:35:32 EDT 1999 i586
Config options: 0
Installed drivers:
Type 21: CS4232
Type 22: CS4232 MIDI
Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM
Card config:
(CS4232 MIDI at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0)
CS4232 at 0x530 irq 7 drq 1,0
OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0
Audio devices:
0: CS4232 (CS4231) (DUPLEX)
Synth devices:
0: Yamaha OPL-3
Midi devices:
0: MPU-401 1.5A Midi interface #1
Timers:
0: System clock
1: CS4232 (CS4231)
2: MPU-401 Timer
Mixers:
0: CS4232 (CS4231)
I notice the midi is not being recognized.
How do I fix that?
I looked at all the past postings on this card. I was hoping that
someone had setting that worked.
Also, I don't have an /etc/conf.modules or and /etc/modules.conf
file. How do I generate one????
Any help would be apprectiated
L.E.
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