Linux-Misc Digest #797, Volume #24 Mon, 12 Jun 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
netscape mail files windows vs. linux (Henricus Holtman)
xmms ("Stephen E. Hargrove")
Re: ide-scsi CD-R Problem With Newest Kernels (.14 & .15) - write_g1?!?!?!? ("Andrew
Glikman")
Re: Linux modules to connect to ISP ("David ..")
Installing Linux past 1024 cylinder (Kevin Brown)
Re: 64 megs of RAM on a 256????? (Robert Heller)
Re: Linux modules to connect to ISP (Robert Heller)
Re: Linux modules to connect to ISP (Robert Heller)
Re: Linux Partition: Primary or Logical? (Robert Heller)
UNIX vs LINUX ... Where to get ? (Toni)
Re: UNIX vs LINUX ... Where to get ? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Installing Linux past 1024 cylinder (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Linux helpdesk (Steven Feil)
Re: UNIX vs LINUX ... Where to get ? (Robert Heller)
info:
apache won't transmit
Re: Linux helpdesk (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Installing Linux past 1024 cylinder (E J)
X server problem ("Anson Lau")
Re: info: (Jehsom)
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From: Henricus Holtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netscape mail files windows vs. linux
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:03:45 -0700
I was wondering if the Netscape saved mail files were any different
between windows and linux. It would be most convenient if I could save
mail
that I got in either system in the same place, and read it from either
system's
Netscape without fouling things up. I know from observation that linux
creates
another file, presumably a database file, but don't know if that fouls
things
up, though my crude experiment indicates that it does not. If anyone
has any idea mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
Henricus Holtman
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From: "Stephen E. Hargrove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xmms
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:13:53 -0600
i'm having a heck of a time getting xmms working. i've tried everything i
know, but still the problem persists. i'm sure i have my sound set up
correctly. i've tried both the commercial OSS (soundon) and compiling
sound into the kernel. either way when i play a CD, it works great.
however, when i try to play an MP3 with xmms, xmms moves /very/ slowly
(i.e., 5 seconds real time = 1 second xmms time) and (predictably) there's
no sound.
here's a breakdown of what i've tried:
01 reinstall the rpm
02 download, compile and install the tar.gz
03 try xmms with the commercial OSS (soundon)
04 try xmms with sound compiled into the kernel
05 alternate the output plugin between esound and OSS
06 delete ~/.xmms and restart xmms
still, no joy. i'm running gnome on redhat 6.1. any ideas would be
greatly appreciated. i'm completely lost and starting to get a little
pissed about the whole thing. thanks.
(btw, the MP3s stream fine on Win9x machines.)
--
steve
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From: "Andrew Glikman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: ide-scsi CD-R Problem With Newest Kernels (.14 & .15) - write_g1?!?!?!?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:14:16 -0600
Not that I have a solution for you, but things aren't broken at the kernel level. I've
patched my way up from 2.2.12 through 2.2.16 and have written CDs all the way.
I've been using both cdrecord-1.8a29-2 and cdrdao-1.1.3-1 without the funky
write errors you've reported. And yes, I'm using an IDE CDRW with SCSI
emulation. Having not looked at the how-tos recently, I don't know what changes
you're refering to, but they may be related to your problems. Try a kernel recompile
doing things the "old" way and see if that works.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas
E. Mitton) wrote:
> Well, I just wanted to pass on the news that I've tried the new kernel v2.2.16
> nad I have the same problem. Also, to ask if anyone has come up with any kind
> of a solution.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux modules to connect to ISP
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:16:47 -0500
jafgon wrote:
>
]snip]
> The ISP wants to be able to automate the whole registration process, very
> Laisse-Faire. What I'm looking for is something that a Linux user can
> download from the ISP website and setup the account "that night".
To do this the program would have to run as "root" in order to make the
needed changes to the configuration files and for "security", this is
not good practice on a linux system.
[snip]
> I doubt that such a user-friendly application exist under Linux but
> I wanted to put it out there none-the-less just to see.
Your probably right since AOL is NOT at all linux friendly.
At least not the last time I heard about it.
No loss.
As I said in my earlier post, all that is needed is some information.
Best of luck.
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ID # 123538
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From: Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Installing Linux past 1024 cylinder
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:54:55 GMT
I am trying to install RedHat Linux 6.2 on a 20 gig drive. I put it on
the end of the drive past the 1024th out of 2500 cylinders. LILO
doesn't seem to like booting from here, it locks up halfway through the
printing of the LILO prompt. I have heard that lilo doesn't work past
the 1024th cylinder of the drive.
I have tried using PowerQuest BootMagic to boot from that partition, but
it just locks up.
If someone could tell me how to use LILO on this partition with or
without BootMagic or some other solution for this problem I would
appreciate it very much.
Thanks in advance,
Kevin
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 64 megs of RAM on a 256?????
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:02:30 GMT
Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:30:06 GMT, wrote :
T> I installed Mandrake 7 a while ago and everything is running smoothly,
T> internet and all. The only problem I have is, I have a 256 meg RAM single
T> module, and linux only sees 64 megs of it. This is the most baffling
T> problem ive ever run into with linux. can anyone help me out with this? Im
T> not a newbie to linux so feel free to be techinal. just keep it
T> understandable haha
You have a 'brain dead' BIOS (some are). You need to add a line like:
append = "mem=256meg"
in your lilo.conf, with the other options under your linux image options.
T>
T>
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T> http://www.help.com/
T>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux modules to connect to ISP
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:02:31 GMT
jafgon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:32:26 -0400, wrote :
j> Greetings group,
j>
j> I'm working as a consultant for a local ISP where I live and
j> recently ran into an interesting predicament. It is the goal of the
j> ISP to distribute the means of connection to new subscribers via CD's or
j> download a module via the ISP home page that will walk the new user
j> through the entire subscription process. Two modules will be available,
j> one for Windows users and the other for Mac users. My question is: Is
j> there an application out "there" that provides the same service for
j> Linux users? A tarball that can be downloaded via the homepage? Of
j> course an app. that has been GPLed would be ideal but I'm willing to
j> settle for anything. Thank you for any information you can provide.
Linux already has all of the pieces it needs to connect to any ISP that
speaks PPP.
You might want to look at the code for the various dialer config apps
(or the PPP section of netcfg on a RH system
(/usr/lib/rhs/netcfg/netcfg.py)), and write a small Python/Tk or Tcl/Tk
script that is specialized for your ISP (i.e. has your telephone
numbers, DNS IP numbers, etc. wired in), that then edits the various
system files (/etc/ppp/paps-secrets or /etc/ppp/chap-secrets,
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0, etc.) as needed.
Note: *many* Linux users know how to do all of this and all these people
generally need is someone to give the 'magic' info: phone number to
dial, whether they should be using PAP or CHAP, what the DNS IP numbers
are (if needed), and any special PPP options needed. Plus the username
and password that the PPP server expects. I suspect that what you will
mostly need is to create a knowledge base in the tech support crew about
Linux and probably won't have much need for some silly PPP setup tool for
Linux. And maybe a simple README.Linux file on the CD and Download page
with the constant info -- your telephone numbers, DNS IP numbers, PAP vs.
CHAP, and special PPP options, along with a instructions for using the
available Linux tools (netcfg, etc.).
j>
j> Regards,
j>
j> Jafgon
j>
j> --
j> http://www.bright.net/~jafgon
j>
j>
j>
j>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux modules to connect to ISP
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:02:32 GMT
jafgon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:24:07 -0400, wrote :
j> "David .." wrote:
j>
j> > Unless you use some strange "Microsoft" only configuration setup for
j> > connections to your ISP, all you need to do to allow Linux users to
j> > connect via a PPP connection is supply some information.
j> >
j> > All I needed to connect to my ISP was:
j> >
j> > 1) Phone number for connection
j> > 2) DNS IP's
j> > 3) Mail server FQDN and/or IP
j> > 4) News server FQDN and/or IP
j> > 5) Proxy server FQDN and/or IP
j> > 6) The normal user account
j> > 7) and of course my password and user name
j> >
j>
j> The ISP wants to be able to automate the whole registration process, very
j> Laisse-Faire. What I'm looking for is something that a Linux user can
j> download from the ISP website and setup the account "that night". AOL use's
j> the technology in all those worthless disks I get in the mail every month
j> (coasters). You just pop in the CD and have your credit card number ready and
j> follow the on-screen instructions and within 20 minutes you've setup an
j> account. I doubt that such a user-friendly application exist under Linux but
j> I wanted to put it out there none-the-less just to see.
j>
j> Jafgon
How much automation does the ISP use? Does the download/CD module
connect to a robot account creation program at the ISP? You *could*
just set up an SSL (secure) web site -- the CGI script collects the
credit card number (via SSL), and user preferences for
username/password, create the account, validate the CC#, and spit back
the info listed above, which the Linux user could cut-and-paste into
the existing net/ppp/dialer config tool(s).
j>
j>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Partition: Primary or Logical?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:02:31 GMT
Forrest Gehrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:05:32 GMT, wrote :
FG> Hello,
FG> I want to partition an IBM ata66 20.5 GB hd for Win98, OS/2 and Linux.
FG> I know that Win98 requires a primary partition and that OS/2 may be
FG> located in a logical partition as extended. But what does Linux
FG> require?
FG> As OS/2, may it be either primary or logical?
Linux does not care. LILO only cares if the root (/) or /boot partition
is wholy under the 1024th cylinder (unless you get the new magical LILO
and have a new enough BIOS) -- LILO uses the BIOS to load the kernel and
ramdisk (if needed). Once Linux starts up it uses its own drivers and
these drivers don't use the BIOS and don't have any special requirements
WRT primary or logical partitions.
FG>
FG> BTW does Linux support ATA66? If so, what driver?
FG> //
FG>
FG>
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From: Toni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UNIX vs LINUX ... Where to get ?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:04:00 +0200
Hey guys,
can anybody tell me where on the net I can find a good comparison of
Linux to Unix ? I mean a kind of Document that describes the differences
between both architectures ? (not in gory details, that is)
Thanks in advance,
Toni.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: UNIX vs LINUX ... Where to get ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:10:34 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Toni would say:
>Hey guys,
>can anybody tell me where on the net I can find a good comparison of
>Linux to Unix ? I mean a kind of Document that describes the differences
>between both architectures ? (not in gory details, that is)
The notable qualitative difference between UNIX and Linux is that
calling something UNIX requires paying for a certification and license
registration process with the XOpen organization as part of The Open
Group, whereas calling something Linux merely requires including a kernel
based on what is distributed by Linus Torvalds.
Getting into technical details would mandate heading straight off
into "gory details."
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assessment of my strengths and weaknesses. Even though this takes some
of the fun out of the job, at least I will never utter the line "No,
this cannot be! I AM INVINCIBLE!!!" (After that, death is usually
instantaneous.)" <http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Installing Linux past 1024 cylinder
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:16:34 GMT
Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am trying to install RedHat Linux 6.2 on a 20 gig drive. I put it on
> the end of the drive past the 1024th out of 2500 cylinders. LILO
> doesn't seem to like booting from here, it locks up halfway through the
> printing of the LILO prompt. I have heard that lilo doesn't work past
> the 1024th cylinder of the drive.
>
> I have tried using PowerQuest BootMagic to boot from that partition, but
> it just locks up.
>
> If someone could tell me how to use LILO on this partition with or
> without BootMagic or some other solution for this problem I would
> appreciate it very much.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Kevin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There were some recent changes to LILO to fix that problem so you
could try installing that. But of course you would need another Linux
system to compile it so this may not entirely solve your problem!
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Prasanth Kumar
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From: Steven Feil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Linux helpdesk
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:22:06 -0600
I'm thinking about starting up a pay-per-call Linux help desk using a
1-900 number. I would use a web-page and e-mail to make the initial
contact with potential customers. I would use the e-mail to evaluate
the current state of the customers computer and decide if I would be
able to help the person in a reasonable amount of time. Once I have
established what needed to be done , I would give the customer the
number to call.
Since I am not an expert on everything Linux, I would start out with
networking tasks that I proficient at, such as setting up NFS, NIS and
FTP servers. As I gain experience with the Linux helpdesk, I
could branch out into other areas, depending on customer needs.
I have experience on both ends of the helpdesk. During my previous
job I spent much time on the phone with IBM doing all sorts of
sysadmen tasks for an AIX network. When I was in high-school, it
became known that I was the person to call when someone would crash
there C-64 floppy disk. Over the phone, I would go through the tracks
and sectors on the disk drive and tell them how to re-link it, all for
free.
There are many advantage of a helpdesk over traditional ways people
get Linux help. Problem could be fixed in a timely manner instead of
the question and answer session drag on for days in Usenet. A helpdesk
would be better than IRC, because with IRC you tend to get pot-luck,
and then your competing with others for attention. When someone calls
my helpdesk they will be getting my undivided attention. When getting
IRC help it would be unlikely that you would find someone who is
patient enough to go through the process of setting up an NFS server
and client step. In IRC the best they could expect is a few tips and
a pointer to the NFS HOW-TO.
I guess it all comes down to a matter of price, and how much people
are willing to pay. I'm thinking I could to a simple NFS or NIS
installation for about $40-$60 over the phone.
Do you think this is a good idea?
Do you think if I were to make announcements to this news group that I
was spamming?
Do you think this message is spamming?
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UNIX vs LINUX ... Where to get ?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:23:50 GMT
Toni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:04:00 +0200, wrote :
T> Hey guys,
T> can anybody tell me where on the net I can find a good comparison of
T> Linux to Unix ? I mean a kind of Document that describes the differences
T> between both architectures ? (not in gory details, that is)
Without the 'gory details', they are pretty much the same. From a
*user* point of view Linux is more like what UNIX *says* it is (POSIX
standard) than most UNIXes are! The main difference between 'UNIX' and
'Linux' is a matter of trademark issues -- that is, it is mostly a
legal issue rather than a technical one. Yes, there are technical
differences between UNIX and Linux, but for the most part these
differences are deep beneath the skin (gory details).
T>
T> Thanks in advance,
T> Toni.
T>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: info:
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:30:02 GMT
How do I install software In Mandrake Linux
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: apache won't transmit
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:30:07 GMT
I am trying to run Apache 1.3 with RedHat Linux 6.2 with a Abit BP6
motherboard with dual Celeron 500 processors. Apache starts, there are no
messages in the error-log file other than starting & stopping. When I run
tcpdump I can see that the packets are being received but nothing is
transmitted. The server is on a DSL line and I am accessing the server
from a dial-up line through another isp. The packets are received but no
index.html is transmitted. When I access the web with Lynx on the server
there is no problem...the pages are received so the connection is woring.
I have tried changing the LISTEN & BIND parameters in the config file with
different combinations of the URL & port but nothing seems to work. Any
suggestion?
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Linux helpdesk
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:32:03 GMT
Steven Feil wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about starting up a pay-per-call Linux help desk using a
> 1-900 number. ........
>
> Do you think this is a good idea?
>
>
As long as you don't calls from "Steven Thrasher", nyuk!
Chris
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Installing Linux past 1024 cylinder
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:33:52 -0700
Get the latest version of lilo from www.freshmeat.org. It goes beyond the
1024th cylinder.
Kevin Brown wrote:
> I am trying to install RedHat Linux 6.2 on a 20 gig drive. I put it on
> the end of the drive past the 1024th out of 2500 cylinders. LILO
> doesn't seem to like booting from here, it locks up halfway through the
> printing of the LILO prompt. I have heard that lilo doesn't work past
> the 1024th cylinder of the drive.
>
> I have tried using PowerQuest BootMagic to boot from that partition, but
> it just locks up.
>
> If someone could tell me how to use LILO on this partition with or
> without BootMagic or some other solution for this problem I would
> appreciate it very much.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Kevin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Anson Lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X server problem
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:35:09 +1000
I'm running Redhat 6.0 on my P166. Last night I deleted the directory
/tmp/.X11-unix/ and since then my X window will not start. I get the error:
"_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno=111.."
Please help!
Thanks!
Anson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jehsom)
Subject: Re: info:
Date: 13 Jun 2000 03:03:21 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How do I install software In Mandrake Linux
That's an incredibly vague question. Please be more specific, and read the
instructions that came with the software you intend to install before ask-
ing us.
Moshe
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