Linux-Misc Digest #938, Volume #20                Tue, 6 Jul 99 02:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Does Linux erase memory before giving it to a process? (Robert Heller)
  Re: Log out users automatically? (David Crooke)
  Re: Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: Does Linux erase memory before giving it to a process? (FelipeMC)
  Re: HELP -- Need advice to buy inkjet printer ------------ ("Donald E. Stidwell")
  Re: Is there a variant of telnetd which logs in users? (David Menestrina)
  Re: X Server and RIVA TNT2 ("Jess Canada")
  Re: Xwindows Manger (Gus Hartmann)
  NEC superscript 650 ---- ("Kaushik --,->")
  Re: Linux vs. Unix (Gus Hartmann)
  Re: first/second/third world (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: Linux vs Solaris (Richard Steiner)
  Re: Is there a variant of telnetd which logs in users? (David Smart)
  break-in attempt? (Derek Shaw)
  Re: Dell Inspiron compatibility?  What is best laptop? (Tim Roberts)
  Re: kppp probs ("John Connell")
  Re: Problem with Iomega ZIP. (wizard)
  Re: HELP -- Need advice to buy inkjet printer ------------ ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: NEC superscript 650 ---- (Rod Smith)
  Re: Linux in Win98??? (Telly)

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux erase memory before giving it to a process?
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 02:08:57 GMT

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany),
  In a message on 5 Jul 1999 19:43:42 GMT, wrote :

GB> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthias Benkmann wrote:
GB> >Does Linux clear memory blocks before granting processes access to
GB> >them? In other words. Does a program that works with sensitive data
GB> >have to clear all its memory blocks before terminating to eliminate
GB> >the possibility of another process getting a previously used memory
GB> >block that still contains passwords etc. 
GB> >In a situation where many people use the same computer (e.g. a
GB> >University's computer room) this might be a real issue. I don't want
GB> >strange people to catch fragments of my emails just by doing a bunch
GB> >of mallocs an then scanning the memory blocks. MSB
GB> 
GB> Here's a little test suite I cooked up:
GB> 
GB> /*Test to see if memory allocated via malloc() is zeroed by default*/
GB> 
GB> #include <stdio.h>
GB> #include <stdlib.h>
GB> 
GB> #define BYTES 100
GB> 
GB> int main(void)
GB> {
GB>   char *ch;
GB>   int i;
GB>   if((ch=malloc(BYTES))!=NULL)
GB>     {
GB>       for(i=0; i<BYTES; i++)
GB>         {
GB>           printf("%d", (int)ch[i]);
GB>         }
GB>       putchar('\n');
GB>       free(ch);
GB>     }
GB>   return 0;
GB> }
GB> 
GB> The output consisted of all zeroes. I don't know if this is guaranteed
GB> to be the same everywhere, though; the C standard doesn't mandate it
GB> (see the man page for malloc(3)), and I don't know if there's any other
GB> guarantee (maybe my program used memory that had not been used by any
GB> processes previously).

It would be likely that 'new' virtual memory would be zeroed, but memory
recycled by *your* program would contain whatever *you* left in it. 
That is, if malloc() needed to call sbrk(), you'll get zeros.  Malloc()
itself does not really allocate memory (!).  It is just part of the heap
management.  malloc()/calloc()/realloc() (and new in C++) call sbrk(),
which calls brk() to *ask* the O/S for more virtual memory.

Second experiment:

pseudo code:

for i=0 to 9 do begin
   short int *x = malloc(1024);
   dump(x,1024);
   for j=0 to 1023 do x[j] = j;
   free(x);
end;


GB> Conclusion: If you're worried about strangers reading your stuff, use
GB> software that overwrites its memory with garbage before free()ing it
GB> (don't ask me where to find software that does this).

Zeros should just as well as garbage -- memset() should do this just fine: 

        char *x = malloc(1024);
        /* use x to hold sensitive stuff...*/
        /* ..... */
        /* Done with x, flush sensitive stuff */
        memset(x,0,1024);
        free(x);



GB> 
GB> Gergo
GB> 
GB> -- 
GB> If you've seen one redwood, you've seen them all.
GB>             -- Ronald Reagan
GB> 
GB> GU d- s:+ a--- C++>$ UL+++ P>++ L+++ E>++ W+ N++ o? K- w--- !O !M !V
GB> PS+ PE+ Y+ PGP+ t* 5+ X- R>+ tv++ b+>+++ DI+ D+ G>++ e* h! !r !y+
GB>                                           






                                                                                       
                         
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Robert Heller                        ||InterNet:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller  ||            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com              /\FidoNet:    1:321/153

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From: David Crooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Log out users automatically?
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 02:45:04 GMT

9wands wrote:
> 

> 
> It's a pretty universal practice to dump all users during backup of a
> fileserver.  Allows the backup to proceed at maximum speed without
> interruptions for polling the logged-on users for activity.  It also
> prevents a file from being changed during the backup.
> 

It used to be standard practice to throw people off and do offline
backups in the 70's, but with modern 24x7 operating practices, backups
of live systems are pretty much the norm. If it's a user filesystem, you
maybe miss a couple of files, you'll get em next time. If it's a
database, there are hooks in the DB to do live data extraction and
backup.

Dave

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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:09:06 -0400

It's not that Linux isn't susceptible to viruses, just that it hasn't yet
become
a popular enough hobby with crackers to write them.  Yes, it's more
difficult
than with DOS/Win (where anyone with a programmer's guide, an assembler,
and a little cleverness can write one), but where there's a will there's a
way.

Just because you're running Linux doesn't mean you can let down your guard!

Jiim McIntyre wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I know Linux isn't  affected by viruses, but I'm trying to find an
>explanation for this. I'm writing a tutorial page, and  this is one of
>the questions I need to answer. If anybody can explain this in simple or
>can point me to an explanation on the web, it is greatly appreciated.
>
>Thankx in advance
>Jim McIntyre
>Webmaster Program
>Dalhousie University
>Halifax, Nova Scotia
>



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From: FelipeMC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux erase memory before giving it to a process?
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 03:39:27 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Benkmann) wrote:
> Does Linux clear memory blocks before granting processes access to
> them? In other words. Does a program that works with sensitive data
> have to clear all its memory blocks before terminating to eliminate
(...)

 Well Matthias,

    Linux will NOT clear a memory segment when i allocates it, but
believe, will be very dificult (if it's possible) to read a memory
segment that contains a an email or something like that.
    Every time Linux creates a processe, this will have a 'new' virtual
memory, that is equal that the virtual memory of the process that create
the new processe. And since your email program, probrably, will not
create a process that will 'spy' the memory to find your last email, you
can sleep peaceful.
    You can have all details on Linux Kernel Guide on every LDP mirror,
like www.linux.org

[]'s FelipeMC

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      ( .. )
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From: "Donald E. Stidwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP -- Need advice to buy inkjet printer ------------
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 03:06:45 GMT

> I bought an Epson Stylus 600 and it's been okay so far.
> I think if I had it to do over again, I'd go ahead and spend the bucks
> to get a laser.
> I don't need color.

The Canon BJC-250, which I think is the cheapest Canon you can buy
(about $90) actually works fine with Linux. I used to have one before I
stepped up to a BJC-5000 and discovered that it is a GDI printer!

Note that not all lasers are compatible with Linux. I used to own a
Xerox DocuPrint P8 and it is a GDI printer (damn fine printer too, but
only if running Windows). I currently use a Brother HL-1040 which works
fine, but only at 300 dpi with Ghostscript. Check the Printing HOWTO
website (can't remember URL offhand). There is an excellent database
there with the information you *need* to know prior to buying a printer
for Linux. Highly recommended.

Don

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From: David Menestrina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a variant of telnetd which logs in users?
Date: 06 Jul 1999 03:56:43 GMT

Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Is there a variant of telnetd, or a separate program which
: will listen on a non-telnet port, login the user, then run
: a script or binary?

Inetd may be what you are looking for.  It's actually how many of the daemons
on your system probably run (including telnetd).  

It listens on a port you supply in a configuration file, and executes a 
command when connections come in on that port.  You can specify the user 
that the command runs as in the same config file.

Take a look at /etc/inetd.conf, /etc/services (which maps service names to 
port numbers), and, of course, 'man inetd'. :)

Good luck!
david

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From: "Jess Canada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X Server and RIVA TNT2
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:19:00 -0600

I have a Diamond V770 TNT2 card, and had trouble getting X to run at first.
Check out www.nvidia.com, somewhere there they have X drivers that fixed all
my problems, now I'm at 1024x768x24 just fine (without the drivers I was at
like 320x240 or something hideous).

HOpe this helps! :)

Jess
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Hi,
>
> I was wondering has any got a RIVA TNT2 card to run with linux (
> Red Hat 6.0) ?
>
> Will the X server for 3dfx cards be sufficient ?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Simon.
>
> P.S If possible cc me on your reply
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.



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From: Gus Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xwindows Manger
Date: 6 Jul 1999 04:21:27 GMT

Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In your $HOME directory make the file .xinitrc and put the window managers
> you want in it. Such as:

> xsetroot -solid black
> xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
> #blackbox
> #fvwm
> #twm
> #enlightenment
> #blackbox
> #startkde
> wmaker 

        One problem with this scenario is that if the designated window
manager fails, the .xinitrc ends without doing anything useful. A simple
series of if/else tests is a lot safer, and not a lot harder to write.
Window managers have been known to fail if certain libraries are
missing, so this is worth doing. For example:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-<Cut Here>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
#!/bin/sh

# First afterstep...
if afterstep ; then
        exit 0
elif fvwm ; then
        exit 0
elif xterm ; then
        exit 0
else
        echo "Unable to even start an xterm - real trouble!"
fi
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-<Cut Here>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

        However, it is worth nothing that this fails to look for each
window manager before trying to run it. While the error will result in
the if statement failing, it would be a lot easier to first test that
the window manager exists and is executable before trying to execute it.
Other improvements would include logging all error messages to a file; I
use .xerrors.${HOSTNAME} , which allows me to have several different X
sessions running on various machines, with separate logging for each.
Here's a robust version; it should work on most Unices. It is worth
noting that the .xerrors.* files must be trimmed occasionally. 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-<Cut Here>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
#!/bin/sh

HOSTNAME=`uname -n`
ERRORLOG=.xerrors.${HOSTNAME}

# use type to determine if it is in the path and executable.
# man type(1) for more information.

if type afterstep >/dev/null 2>&1 && exec afterstep >> ${ERRORLOG} 2>&1 ; then
        exit 0
elif type fvwm >/dev/null 2>&1 && exec fvwm >> ${ERRORLOG} 2>&1 ; then
        exit 0
elif type twm >/dev/null 2>&1 && exec twm >> ${ERRORLOG} 2>&1 ; then
        exit 0
elif type xterm >/dev/null 2>&1 && exec xterm >> ${ERRORLOG} 2>&1 ; then
        exit 0
else
        echo "Could not execute any window manager - not even xterm"
        echo "Check the X installation"
fi

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-<Cut Here>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

        The above script is provided free of charge to the *nix
community with the hope that it may be useful, but with ABSOLUTELY NO
WARRANTY. Season to taste.

-- 
        Gus
===========================================================================
  http://www.upl.cs.wisc.edu/~hartmann/ | PGP Key ID: pub  1024/DCC499F5
___________________________________________________________________________
             Hey, I had to let awk be better at *something*...  :-)
              --Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>1

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From: "Kaushik --,->" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEC superscript 650 ----
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:49:24 -0500


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Does anybody know if the NEC Superscript 650 is a Windows only printer?

thanks

Kaushik


--

============================================

             Kaushik Raghavan
  "ASCII stupid question, get stupid ANSI"
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Does anybody know if the NEC Superscript 650 is a Windows only printer?
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&nbsp; "ASCII stupid question, get stupid ANSI"
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From: Gus Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: 6 Jul 1999 04:33:46 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> there are also small non-technical differences. Commands (or rather
> programs) are the same but the options have an annoying tendency to be
> denoted differently. Try ps or df under linux and solaris and you'll see.

        These are both larger than Linux; the differences mentioned are
from the legendary split between AT&T and BSD. If one desires a more
BSD-styled environment under Solaris, placing /usr/ucb/ first in one's
path will accomplish this nicely. The entire /usr/ucb* structure under
Solaris is from the "merger" of SysV and BSD Unices that was called
System V Revision 4, frequently abbreviated SVR4.

        Most Linux distributions seem to use primarily BSD-style
commands; it is a good practice to be conversant with both, be able to
tell the difference from the output, and be able to know which to expect
based on the output of uname -a. This is what separates a "Linux user"
from a "Unix user" in a technical sense - "Unix" in this instance refers
to the entire family of similar operating systems, and knowing a family
means being able to differentiate between similar-looking uncles now
and again.

        This view conveniently ignores the political differences
between Linux and other Unices; this does not mean that I am unaware of
them, merely that they are not relevant here.


-- 
        Gus
===========================================================================
  http://www.upl.cs.wisc.edu/~hartmann/ | PGP Key ID: pub  1024/DCC499F5
___________________________________________________________________________
            What's this _life_ stuff, and where can I get some?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: 6 Jul 1999 04:30:30 GMT

In article <7Dag3.1375$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Seebach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In other words, "information complexity" means nothing to you.

In other words, you're a moron. Yet again, you've managed to invert
everything. I was arguing that "number of assumptions" meant nothing
precisely *because* it didn't account for information complexity.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Linux vs Solaris
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 21:59:25 -0500

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying:

>I'm building a mission-critical high throughput OLTP application which
>required considerable scalability.  I'm trying to choose between Linux
>and Solaris for the operating system.

Also consider FreeBSD.  Linux and Solaris might not be the only useful
alternatives.  :-)

>Does anyone have any views on this matter?

No, but it sounds like an interesting project.  What precisely do you
mean by "high throughput".  Since I work in the airline industry where
we have large-scale transaction systems, I have preconceptions when I
hear phrases like that.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
    OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
    WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
               Have you got all the stuffing up one end?

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From: David Smart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a variant of telnetd which logs in users?
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:06:19 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bernie wrote:
> 
> Is there a variant of telnetd, or a separate program which
> will listen on a non-telnet port, login the user, then run
> a script or binary?  I've looked in the contrib directories,
> and cannot find anything like this.
> 
> -Thanks

Depending what behavior you are looking for .. one of these might help.

You can start telnetd to whatever port you like (see inetd.conf and
in.telnetd). INETD is designed to run whatever you like (see a previous
posting). 

If you just need a trick to run a particular program on demand, you can
set up a normal account (/etc/passwd) to run a login script (.profile,
.login) of your choice (see sh, csh). 

If you just want to run some binary when the userid/password
authentication completes, you can just change the account login shell to
be the program to run (instead of /bin/csh). The login shell can be
"/sbin/shutdown", or "/bin/telnet anotherhost", or your favorite captive
script. If running a privledged program as root (like shutdown or lpd)
be careful that any script is really captive.

Can you tell us what you were trying to accomplish? 

--Dave

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From: Derek Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: break-in attempt?
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 05:33:58 GMT

I am bringing a mail server up, and I have installed tcp_wrappers_7.6.

While just beginning to whack at this machine, I received this message from it,
and I want to assure myself that I generated it.  I haven't run any of the
security testing packages against it yet.


>     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]                                         5:09 PM
>
>  Subject: SECURITY ALERT! in.comsat-127.0.0.1
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  [127.0.0.1]

so, what is the comsat service?  I didn't do anything from the local host (that
I'm aware of ;-> ) to trigger the "booby trap" (to use Weitse's description of
the message).  All my tests of the warning system were conducted from another
host.

Any help appreciated, feel free to reply by e-mail, too, in case I don't find
time to get back before the thread scrolls off.

Cheers!
d.
--
Derek Shaw
Business Information Systems
Victoria, BC.
voice: 250-885-2021   fax: 250-386-4060



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Roberts)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell Inspiron compatibility?  What is best laptop?
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 04:52:27 GMT

"H. Michael Smith, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I stand, quite happily, corrected.  I see now (@ dell.com) that they
>do ship Red Hat.  It still seems as though they do not ship/support
>Linux on the Inspiron laptops, hence the listerv :
>...>
>PLEASE, prove me wrong on this one, too.  These are those times that
>being wrong is good. :)

One question on the Dell Inspiron FAQ is "will installing Linux on my
machine invalidate the warranty", and the answer is "NO".  That's not all
the way to "supporting" Linux, but at least they don't deprecate it.

>BTW.. RH6.0 runs great on my Inspiron 7000 (300MHz, 128MB RAM, ATI
>Rage LT Pro video 8MB, 15" LCD, etc) and Gnome looks nice.

RH6.0/Mandrake also runs great on my 7000, 266MHz, 64MB RAM, Rage LT Pro
8MB, 14" LCD.
--
- Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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From: "John Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]/spamsanono>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: kppp probs
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:59:39 -0400

Open Kppp>Setup button>Modem tab>Modem Commands>Init String>AT&F1
Al Kooz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7lndvl$baq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thanx Randy for the reply but I don't quiet understand what to do. I'm a
> newbie at linux (sorry). Could you please tell me where to put that AT&F1
?
> Do I have to insert it in the login-script ?
>
> thanx Al
>
>



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From: wizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,flashnet.it.hobby.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problem with Iomega ZIP.
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:09:17 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Marc Leeman wrote:

> > HI, I've installed RedHat 6.0 (kernel 2.2.5) and now I've some trouble
> > with my parallel port Zip.
> > With my old version of Red Hat (5.2) I've only to do "insmod ppa" from a
> > root account and then to mount the correct sda device (4 for Dos disks
> > or 1 for Linux disks).
> > Now when do "insmod ppa" I get a list of errors:
> >
> > /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
> > parport_claim_Rcca15f23
> > /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
> > parport_register_device_R064ebecf
> > /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
> > parport_unregister_device_R3618c96f
> > /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
> > parport_enumerate_R648d1e26
> > /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
> > parport_release_R4430d136
> >
>
> I got the same.
>
> insmod parport
> insmod ppa
>
> solves it for me

hi all

You may want to try:
    insmod parport
    insmod imm

Imm being the newer more versatile driver.    This works well for me.

Dave



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Subject: Re: HELP -- Need advice to buy inkjet printer ------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 05 Jul 1999 20:27:18 -0700

"Donald E. Stidwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I bought an Epson Stylus 600 and it's been okay so far.
> > I think if I had it to do over again, I'd go ahead and spend the bucks
> > to get a laser.
> > I don't need color.
> 
> The Canon BJC-250, which I think is the cheapest Canon you can buy
> (about $90) actually works fine with Linux. I used to have one before I
> stepped up to a BJC-5000 and discovered that it is a GDI printer!
> 
> Note that not all lasers are compatible with Linux. I used to own a
> Xerox DocuPrint P8 and it is a GDI printer (damn fine printer too, but
> only if running Windows). I currently use a Brother HL-1040 which works
> fine, but only at 300 dpi with Ghostscript. Check the Printing HOWTO
> website (can't remember URL offhand). There is an excellent database
> there with the information you *need* to know prior to buying a printer
> for Linux. Highly recommended.

My BJC-4200 runs quite well with gs.  A little gamma correction for color is
all.  That printer's highest res is 720x360 or something, so getting only
360x360 is ok with me....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: NEC superscript 650 ----
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 04:30:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Kaushik --,->" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Does anybody know if the NEC Superscript 650 is a Windows only printer?

First, your message arrived as both plain ASCII and HTML.  Usenet News is
an ASCII-only portion of the net, so sending HTML (with or without ASCII)
is considered bad form.  Unfortunately, Netscape has the bad habit of
defaulting to HTML for e-mail and news postings.  You can change this in
the user preferences.

Second, I suggest you check:

http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi

This is a database of printers with information on compatibility with
Ghostscript, which essentially serves as Linux's printer driver set.

-- 
Rod Smith
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From: Telly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux in Win98???
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:34:04 +0200

Hilton Travis wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I was wondering if there is a version of Linux that will work inside
> Win98?  I know it's a bit of an ask (for Win98 to support ANYTHING), but
> anyway...
> 
> What I want to do, without having to build yet another machine, is to
> have a single machine that has Win98 running and accessing my Linux
> server.  I want to be able to test config changes by using "Linux in a
> Window" so to speak, without having to reboot this machine into Linux,
> and then back into Win98 - a PITA and waste of time to boot!
> 
> Anyone know of any distribution like this?
> 

try using a Linux "Loadln" utility..it allows you to boot into Linux
through Windows. Check your HOWTO files for more information on how to
use it.

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