Linux-Misc Digest #938, Volume #26               Sat, 27 Jan 01 12:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (John Hasler)
  Re: "data missing" in netscape (Again) (Virtual Moose)
  Re: Utility for finding absolute path of file? (James Silverton)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Grant Edwards)
  Inodes (Kirk)
  qpopper3.1.2 | no buffer | RH 6.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Grant Edwards)
  Bill Gates shot? (Steve Ackman)
  Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors?? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: copying to a floppy (Uwe Malzahn)
  How to put LILO in 1st sector of boot partition ? (Arctic Storm)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
  Re: bash2 on Redhat6.2 (Steve Ackman)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
  Linux API ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
  Re: How to put LILO in 1st sector of boot partition ? (Markku Kolkka)
  Kernel recompilation - "system too big?" ("Stefan Viljoen")
  Lilo configuration (Jack Kaufmann)

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:42:04 GMT

I wrote:
> If the situation was reversed I'd say he was an American, so I'd say he
> is Dutch now.  Europeans will probably disagree.

cpw writes:
> So what's Linus Torvalds?  A Swedish speaking Finn or an American?

An American, of course, but you should really ask him.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Virtual Moose)
Crossposted-To: alt.netscape,netscape.public.general
Subject: Re: "data missing" in netscape (Again)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:58:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:07:48 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|
|
|I get frequently "data missing type reload" messages from netscape.
|No I am not a developer, I am just a slow internet user and I don't
|want to wait for what I already got a few minutes ago.
|
|My second problem is when I click on the Back icon of Netscape it takes
|too long to reload the page, it gets from internet again !!
|I installed squid but it didn't help.
|I can't believe Internet explorer doesn't have those problems but
|Netscape...
|I use linux RH5, Netscape 4.7 , squid 2.4
|thanks for info
|
|
|Sent via Deja.com
|http://www.deja.com/


1. change how often NS check fo r newer versions.
edit/preferences/advanced/cache/
set document is compared to cache to once per session.

2. if you are submitting forms or going back to a site that placed a
cookie, sometimes the cookie expires or the data is missing from a
form that you entered, thus the data missing error.
just start back at the beginning of that page.  

also in secure web sites, sometimes you cannot go back, you can only
go forward or start over.

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VirtualMoose                               
[EMAIL PROTECTED]         
http://virtualmoose.freehomepage.com
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Once is an accident; twice is coincidence;
Three times is enemy action. 
For most people, that enemy is Micro$oft.


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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Utility for finding absolute path of file?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:18:29 -0500

Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> 
>
> >
> One good thing about Red Hat distributions (and others probably do this
> as well) is that they run updatedb in the wee hours of the morning when
> you are least likely to be on your machine (you can edit /etc/crontab to
> change when it runs). Thus, if you leave your machine up, you get a
> fresh index for locate to use every day. Of course, if you know the root
> password, you can run updatedb anytime.
 up 1 day, 1:12, 3 users, load average: 3.13, 3.15, 2.81

Yes, it's a very good idea to run updatedb at least once a day, IMHO.
However, updating has not got much to do with the distribution. Any root
user (or even others) can set up cron to run the job at a suitable time.
Updatedb does not take very long and does not stop other jobs from
running tho' it does slow them some.

Jim.
-- 
James V.  Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:24:27 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:

>> >> |> No, I meant exactly what I typed.  See dejanews for my multiple arguments
>> >> |> for the granular use of capitals and contractions in informal prose.
>> >
>> >> Oh, that's *really* authoritative.  It's pretty sad how lazy people have become
>> >> or ignorant of correct grammer when it comes to "prose".
>> >
>> >"grammar".
>> 
>> Now, if somebody would compare Bill Gates to Hitler, we can officially
>> declare this thread deceased.
>
>FUCK YOU and anybody else who invokes "Godwin's Law"

Still saving up to buy a sense of humor, eh?

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  I've got to get
                                  at               these SNACK CAKES to NEWARK
                               visi.com            by DAWN!!

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From: Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Inodes
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:30:03 -0000

when I run df -i I get the following


Filesystem            Inodes   IUsed   IFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/sda5               189k    189k      40  100% /
/dev/sda1               3.9k      59    3.9k    1% /boot
/dev/md0                864k     46k    818k    5% /home

How do I free up the root directory? I have removed all the .core files, 
removed excess log files.

I was alerted to the problem when running a mailing script and received 
the following error:

sendmail[21921]: f0QGTst21919: SYSERR(root): queueup: cannot create queue 
temp file ./tff0QGTst21919, uid=0: No space left on device

df output is:

Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5             1.4G  1.2G  154M  89% /
/dev/sda1              15M  7.1M  7.3M  49% /boot
/dev/md0              6.6G  1.3G  5.0G  20% /home

Appreciate any help.



--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: qpopper3.1.2 | no buffer | RH 6.0
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:37:01 GMT

Hi -

Because of some recent security advisories, I upgraded the version of
qpopper I'd been running as a pop3 mail app on my RH 6.0 box from
2.5.3 to 3.1.2. The compile went fine, and it seems to work 95% of the
time, be periodically when I try to connect I get a message that 'no
buffer space is available'. Never happened before (on the exact same
system - the only change was the move from 2.5.3 -> 3.1.2). Any
ideas/suggestions?

Thanks!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:50:54 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:

>Most of the tamper-friendly voting systems are in Demoncrook-run counties.
>Why is that?

Democtratic counties tend to be poorer?

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Send your questions
                                  at               to "ASK ZIPPY", Box 40474,
                               visi.com            San Francisco, CA 94140,
                                                   USA

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Subject: Bill Gates shot?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:55:25 -0500

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_1135000/1135152.stm

-- 
Steve Ackman                            
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors??
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:57:57 GMT

In article <3a726e28$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Heller wrote:

>This is like asking: is there a machine that can make some sort of
>passable orange juice from apples?  The *reason* that WYSIWYG web page
>design tools create such bad HTML code (that often fails to be be
>cross-browser) is due to the fact that HTML is *specificly* designed NOT
>to be WYSIWYG.

It's no use telling the point-n-click crowd this.  I've been
trying for years. They don't understand content-based mark-up.
The only thing that exists in their mind is pixels on a screen.

No matter how many times you explain it, they're still baffled
when the all-singing, all-dancing, technicolor, cinimascape,
content-free, web page they lovingly designed looks wrong at a
different resolution, with a different browser, or *god-forbid*
with a text browser.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Now I am depressed...
                                  at               
                               visi.com            

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Uwe Malzahn)
Subject: Re: copying to a floppy
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:54:58 +0100

In article <94s8dg$u1d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Mike E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> when I do 'cp filename.txt /dev/fd0'
>> I copy the file directly to my floppy drive if i'm not mistaken,

I'm dead sure you are mistaken. What you are trying to do is, to copy 
filename.txt over the device entry. Doesn't work for a user. Destroys 
the device entry as root (just don't work as root). To copy the file 
you must mount the the floppy, by hand or automatically (see autofs).

Cheers,
Uwe

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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How to put LILO in 1st sector of boot partition ?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:22:04 GMT

How to put LILO in 1st sector of boot partition ?
When I installed RedHat 7, I was given the option to put LILO boot 
record on the MBR (Master Boot Record) or the first sector of the boot 
partition.  I chose to put the LILO on the first sector of the boot 
partition.  This setup worked great for triple boot with Win2K & 
Win98SE; I gave control to NT Loader.
How do you do this is Mandrake?  Mandrake gives you an option between 
LILO and Grub, but doesn't allow you to specify the location.  LILO was 
put in the MBR, and I'm not happy with that.
If you know how to put LILO in the first sector of the boot partition in 
Mandrake, please share.
Thanks.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:27:49 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . wrote:

>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Certain countries (Norway comes to mind) are very friendly towards
>>> choice and freedom, but not 'Europe' in general.
>> 
>> 
>> Netherlands: all the freedom of norway with 1. half the taxes and 
>> 2. more to do.
>     ^^^^^^^^

> red lights hurt my eyes :P

Yeah well, thats only part of it...:)

Theres stuff open in Amsterdam and Rotterdam after 6pm.  :P




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: bash2 on Redhat6.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:29:59 -0500

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:15:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Redhat6.2 comes with two bash'es : /bin/bash and /bin/bash2
>/bin/bash is the default. Should I install a recent bash-2 RPM that will
>probably overwrite /bin/bash or will it disrupt the system?

  bash2 is a different command than bash.  The bash2 rpm will
not overwrite bash.  It's simply one more shell, like tcsh or
pdksh, you now have available.

  If bash is your default shell, simply type 'bash2' at the command 
line to use it.

-- 
Steve Ackman                            
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:29:17 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . wrote:

>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>>> ...
>>> 
>>>> Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
>>>> people written down somewhere?
>>> 
>>> ...
>> 
>> 
>>> The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
>>> for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
>>> of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
>>> the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
>>> make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
>>> chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
>> 
>> 
>> Ah, you dont have a very good understanding of what happened in florida.
>> 
>> You're one of those insane federalists who believes that his government
>> is incapable of doing any sort of wrong, arent you?
>> 
>> I'll bet you believe in god too, dontcha?
>> 
>> Thats very sweet.
>> 

> yeah <sarcasm> what a horrid idea to actually believe in God huh? <sarcasm>

> Considering the US was founded on Christian beliefs I find this normal 
> and hopeful that people might actually have a set of morals not based on 
> their own ideology (which would be inherently imperfect given we are human).

And thus the root of the binding of church and state.  While its quite alright
to make laws about morality, it is plainly NOT alright to make laws about
CHRISTIAN morality uniquely.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux API
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:20:51 GMT

Hi,

In Windows, programs are able to communicate with other programs'
graphical widgets through the API.  For example, if say Microsoft Word
is open, I can make my program type something into Word's buffer and
then press the save button.  However, since in Linux there are many GUIs
(vanilla X, X + GNOME, X + KDE) is this really possible to do?  I don't
recall seeing any Xlib functions to do something like this.

Thanks,
  -- John


Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:33:04 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Conversely, in a 1994 interview, Gates proclaimed that one of his goals is
> to collect a surcharge for EVERY financial transaction on the planet.
> Translation: he wants to pick everybody's pocket, even if it's
> settling for one penny at a time.

Indeed, and im glad you brought up this difference.

Gates is exactly the sort of person who would have been up against a wall
during WWII in germany.

Thus, the interesting comparison of Gates and hitler; they surely would 
have despised eachother and Gates would have probably ended up dead right
quick.

Note that this does not make hitler into anything except what he actually
was; a syphallis-ridden homocidal maniac.  




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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:34:37 GMT

"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "." wrote:
> > 
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Finally, as for US politics, better bland/boring politics and a diverse
> > > and vibrant society than the reverse.
> > 
> > I think we can all agree that what happened in florida during this past
> > election could be defined at the very least as a highly disorganized and
> > flawed state electoral system.
> 
> 
> No...merely corrupt Demoncrook National Committee people playing
> footsie with corrupt Demoncrook county election officials and even
> more corrupt Demoncrook Florida Supreme Starchamber
> dictat^H^H^H^H^^H^Hjustices.

the only difference was that the republicrooks owned the higher
court.  they are both equally bogus.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:34:41 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . wrote:

>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> "." wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> As for corrupt legislators, vote 'em out. "Oh but those nasty evil
>>>>> corporations give so much money for TV ads." Tough. Go door to door if
>>>>> you believe in something. Get others to do the same. Incite the
>>>>> electorate. Don't bitch & moan. Tom Foley, then the Speaker of the US
>>>>> House of Representatives, should have had a safe seat in congress, but
>>>>> he was voted out in 1994 (not saying that was a good thing or not). It
>>>>> can be done, but it does take work.
>>>> 
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>> 
>>>> As has been shown beyond the shadow of a doubt in the latest elections
>>>> in the united states, your vote DOES NOT COUNT.
>>>> 
>>>> Happy dreamworld,
>>>> 
>>>> -----.
>>> 
>> 
>>> Sour grapes? You sound like your guy didn't get in. ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> I despise them both. :)
>> 

> why is having a guy as President that actually has a universal set of 
> morals such a bad thing?  Some people view having a good moral 
> background as more important than being able to supposedly invent the 
> Internet or 'putting the economy back on track'. They are only his 
> morals in the fact that he has embraced them, just like most other 
> Christians in the world. You can't say he shouldn't share them b/c they 
> are God's to share, not his. If Bush dies those morals still exist, even 
> if a lot of people like making their own.

"This is not a christian nation"

--Thomas Jefferson*

*an interesting thing for a man who translated parts of the old, and all
of the new testement from their original languages




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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to put LILO in 1st sector of boot partition ?
Date: 27 Jan 2001 18:54:03 +0200

Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How to put LILO in 1st sector of boot partition ?

Edit the file /etc/lilo.conf, change the line boot=/dev/hda to point
to your boot partition (/dev/hda0, or whatever), then run /sbin/lilo

-- 
        Markku Kolkka
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel recompilation - "system too big?"
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:06:44 +0200
Reply-To: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi!

This error comes up when doing "make zlilo" in the kernel recompilation
process....

I am trying to compile PPP support into the kernel (Rh6) - must I rather use
modules? What is this error? How can I fix it?

Thanks!

Stefan Viljoen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: Jack Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo configuration
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:09:15 GMT

This is a silly question, but I'm having trouble changing the lilo
configuration.  I have edited etc/lilo.conf (to change the default boot
system), and after editing that I called lilo, but I get a fatal error
message about not being able to load the boot record onto sector
something.  Can anyone help me out?  Thanks.

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