Linux-Misc Digest #33, Volume #21 Wed, 14 Jul 99 16:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux 6.0 locking up on install .......Help! (Duncan Simpson)
Re: "system too big".. for WHAT! (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: Compaq Presario 1600? (Abhishek Kumar)
Re: UML software for Linux? (Steve Wampler)
Re: Linux and Memory ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: CIA assassinations (MK)
Re: Linux and Memory (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: Sending dual boot machine for tech support ("Erik D. Hansen")
Max memory linux can use ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: tik AOL AIM (Stuart R. Fuller)
Is CD-R usuable as backup medium on Linux? (Calvin Ostrum)
FTP daemon resetting folder permissions??? (Christopher Suleske)
Chmoding directories for «O»thers: x or rx? (Gilles Pelletier)
Re: CIA assassinations (Generalissimo)
Re: kdm instead of xdm?? ("J. Ronald Jarvis")
SB16 WavEffects/DMA Programming Frustrations ("Boisy G. Pitre")
Burning logos on CD (Mark Gray)
Re: Error: LILO doesn't support VGA mode presetting ("Academic Computer Center")
Major RedHat 6.0 Disappointment ("David Eno")
Re: Red Hat 6.0 hangs on P3 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: star office prints A4 only ????????? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Debian packaging system (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Re: Amiga will use the Linux kernel. (Philip Brown)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: Linux 6.0 locking up on install .......Help!
Date: 14 Jul 1999 16:57:40 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Stutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>'Wulff wrote:
>> I just purchased the Mandrake/Linux 6.0 package and it consistently
>> locks up under install.
>> Everything goes fine until I get to a screen that says "probing for
>> mouse".
>>
>I've installed Mandrake 6.0 w/ a Logitech PS/2 mouse no problem. If
>only nfsd worked...
Have you tried knfsd (on 2.2.x?). I machine I know had some problems and
the generally agreement was that knfsd was the wy to fix it. Being chicken
we also plan to run software watchdog timers and chnaged the rest cope to
read and write using nfs, so if nfsd dies a reboot takes place promptly.
--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: "system too big".. for WHAT!
Date: 14 Jul 1999 16:24:55 GMT
In article <7mh3q6$n52$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>First question: Is there a newsgroup devoted to kernel compilation
>problems? I dont see anything in the list.
>
>I just 'up'graded to redhat 6 & tried to recompile my kernel.
>Upon 'make boot' I wind up with
>
>System is 590 kB
>System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
>make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1
>make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.5/arch/i386/boot'
>make: *** [boot] Error 2
>
>Too big for what?? I've got 64MB of RAM & gobs of hdd space.
That has nothing to do with it. zImage has to unpack in the bottom 640K.
It's archaic, a legacy for compatibility with older install scripts.
Use bzImage for the 2.2.x kernels. It unpacks in the 64 MB you
were talking about.
>Most options are in modules & I've weeded out what I dont need.
>I've recompiled my kernel before with no trouble. This looks
>like an arbitrary limit. If it's too big for a floppy, I dont
>care. I use LILO. make bzImage will work but the redhat manual
>recommends make boot. I dont know the difference.
The Red Hat manual is wrong.
>What's the workaround for this?
Ignore the Red Hat manual. Maka a bzImage and edit /etc/lilo.conf
to use it.
Cameron
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From: Abhishek Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Compaq Presario 1600?
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:06:59 -0400
Bruce Schultz wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:30:56 -0400, David J. Topper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >So it seems quite obvious that the Linux laptop situation is quite
> >grim. I have yet to find a vendor with a machine that has:
> >
> >Supported Video chipset
> >Supported audio chipset
> >Supported modem
> >
> >It seems as though most will have 2 out of 3 at best. I'd love to see a
> >day where www.VENDOR.com would actually contain a page listing chipset
> >specs.
>
> Finding a supported built-in modem will be nearly impossible. I'm not
> familiar with any that work. All that I've seen are winmodems. It's no
> big deal. If you have a pcmcia port, you can use a pcmcia modem.
>
> >So my latest question is about the Compaq Presario line. Do they stack
> >up? How is the AMD K6-III 380 chip vs. the Portable PII-400?
>
> I have a Presario 1230 at the office. It has an odd pcmcia controller
> that some versions of the pcmcia card support can't work with, but
> everything (except the winmodem, of course) works. This one has a 300
> mhz Cyrix chip, I think.
>
> My main machine is an older Fujitsu Lifebook 435DX. Everything works,
> it's stable and reliable and fast enough for my needs. I don't do
> computer games.
>
> --
> Bruce Schultz
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After running Linux on my Sony Vaio PCG748, it felt like that linux was made for
laptops.
Everything worked right out of the box and in a far better way than under Win98.
Everything -
including the internal modem & PCMCIA controllers to the IRDA ports.
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From: Steve Wampler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UML software for Linux?
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:00:12 -0700
Tobias Anderberg wrote:
>
> >I am looking for a UML software (like Rational Rose) which would run on
> >Linux, would be able to generate C++ and reverse-engineer C++.
>
> Check out ARGO: www.ics.uci.edu/pub/arch/uml/
>
> Havn't tried it myself yet, so I don't know much about it.
I have. It has potential, but:
(a) It only supports Java (1.1 and 1.2).
(b) It's pretty slow, particularly as the size of the project grows
(c) It understands UML's shortcut notations for methods, but expands
them in the class diagram, which wastes a lot of space.
(d) It's still at 0.7, which means lots of annoyances (saving is
wierd, deleting entities is strange, printing is eerie, etc.)
However, it *is* free, which is wonderful.
If you have money (oodles and oodles of it), look at Together/C++
from www.oisoft.com. Supports Linux and works *exceedingly well*.
I just can't afford anything beyond the demo version.
(Together/J is the first UML tool I've found that I'd actually consider
spending money on, just *nowhere near* what they want for it...)
--
Steve Wampler- SOLIS Project, National Solar Observatory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux and Memory
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:35:14 GMT
I can ditto that. I have a dell 6300 with 1 gig (yea, overkill, but it
was lent to me from our IS division) and within 2 hours of running it
is using 90% of the memory (something like 800 megs of ram).
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Viestissä Sat, 10 Jul 1999 23:54:35 +0000, Jim
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti:
> >I'm running rh 6.0 on a P150 with 93 mb of ram. My system monitor is
> >telling me that 90% of my memory is being used.
> >I install "everything" during install, and there are quite a few
daemons
> >running, so I suspect this is the problem.
>
> That's not problem,because linux uses allmost all unused memory in
disk
> cache,and gives it back if necesery,So your machines memory is
speeding up
> disks.command free you'll see how much is in cache etc.
>
> I hope this helps a bit
>
> Ilkka Ollakka
>
> --
> --
> "I went to the museum where they had all the heads and arms from the
> statues that are in all the other museums."
> -- Steven Wright
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:28:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 14 Jul 1999 10:04:56 -0700, Lee Doolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> "MK" == MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [ . . . ]
>
> MK> Say, like in Jamestown?
>
>No fair. Which Jamestown?
The one of colonies from which US has gradually grown. They had a rule
there: whatever is produced, everybody gets equal share.
Soon nobody wanted to work, even though there was threat of
imminent starvation and death. So they introduced that
famous rule:"who does not work, does not eat".
Marcin Krol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Linux and Memory
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:00:05 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: The thing I'm noticeing is that some swap space is being used.
:
: Ex:
: total used free shared buffers
: cached
: Mem: 193068 190108 2960 23824 16072
: 154744
: -/+ buffers/cache: 19292 173776
: Swap: 192704 3124 189580
:
: Even though 150MB ram is being cached, is there a reason for linux to
: need to use Swap space?
:
Yes, Linux uses the swap space because it can.
If you have daemons that are infrequently used, why should they hang around in
memory. Swap 'em out, and put the memory to use elsewhere.
For example, I have the httpd daemon running on my system, with 10 children.
Since I *rarely* use the web server, it's usually swapped out. The first time
I use it, though, it gets swapped back in, and will generally hang around in
memory until it becomes clear that it's not going to get used again.
Stu
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From: "Erik D. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Sending dual boot machine for tech support
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:48:58 -0400
I wouldn't be surprised if they did feed you that line.
I have had nothing but problems with my dealings with Gateway -- unless
you want to buy a machine from them.
What are the nature of your problems? If they don't relate in anyway to
it being a dual boot machine, remind them of that. Again and again.
If the problems are not Linux related, they shouldn't be able to turn you
away, but if they are, they will and they can.
Erik
Dhiraj Kacker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Gateway solo and it developed some problems which I am hoping
> will get solved at the local Gateway country store.
>
> Its a dual boot (win98 + Linux) machine. In the event that I have to
> mail this back
> to Gateway, will they create problems on finding that Linux has been
> installed
> on the machine?? Couple times their tech support people have tried to
> pass the buck
> on to stuff that did not come pre-loaded - for problems that were
> absolutely unrelated -
> so I am a little worried about warranty and realted issues.
>
> I am just wondering if anyone has had to mail in their dual boot
> machines - and could
> share their experience. Maybe even provide suggestions for what
> precautions to take.
>
> Thanks in advance for your time,
>
> -Dhiraj
> (remove nospam from reply address)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Max memory linux can use
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:46:36 GMT
I have recently installed Mandrake 6.0 on my Dell 6300 server (the big
one with hot swap hard drives).
It has 1 gig of ecc ram, a ami Raid controller with 3 9 gig SCSI's
hardware 5 raided, etc, etc.
I was pleasently suprised when Mandrake already had the drivers for my
AMI card and without any other manual setting installed and ran. When
the system came up it apparently auto recognized about 976 megs of ram.
I ran this system for about 1 month with 4 users (mainly samba sharing)
and it ran fine. Then this weekend I switched 40+ users off a novell
machine onto Linux. Within hours linux froze. And I mean FROZE.
After a reboot I had horrible disk errors and once corrected I had
files that I had updated over an hour ago (like the printcap) hosed.
The next day once I had tracked down the sync statement I was in the
system and ran a manual sync (after re-creating my printcap) and the
system froze again.
I then went into the system and added append "mem=256m" (after an hour
of fsk fixes) to my lilo and rebooted. The machine has been up now for
2 days with no problems (I have run large file copies to the machine
while also running manual syncs)
My question is what is the recommended way to have linux determine
memory and what is the max memory that people know linux will run
reliably with??? Should we never allow linux to autodect memory and
always utilize a mem=xxxm statement??? This whole process really hurt
since the company was convinced to go Linux instead of NT (mainly
people lost email downloads to their local microsoft pst files). I am
guessing I must have run into some memory problem most people don't see
since I am sure very few people have this much memory.
- Patrick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: tik AOL AIM
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:00:05 GMT
Joseph S. White ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi All,
:
: Anyone got the Tcl/Tk 8.0 AIM Client working? My problem is
: I have 13 buddies added but the do not show up in the buddy
: list. I show up there after I logon, but no one else. I can
: edit the Buddy list and all the names are there, just don't
: show in buddy list. Any Idea what is going on?
:
: I'm running Mandrake 6.0 /Tk 8.0
:
: Info: http://www.aim.aol.com/tik/
Your buddies only show up on the list if they're logged into the AIM system.
Stu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Calvin Ostrum)
Subject: Is CD-R usuable as backup medium on Linux?
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:15:26 GMT
Can anyone provide any useful information for the
following problem?
I want to use CD-R as a backup medium on Linux. My
intention is to take my hard drive into one of those
services that write CD-R backups. However, reading the
Linux CDROM HOWTO, it tells me that "one-off" CD's
are generally written in XA format, and that this
format is not generally supported by Linux CDROM drivers
(one supposes especially not the generic ATAPI/IDE
driver that I hope to be able to use).
I just gave away my old 2x CD-ROM drive, thinking
I would have to get a new one to read the CD-R's, since
I have repeatedly heard that 2x drives cannot read CD-R's.
Now it seems as if this was a mistake, since purchasing
a newer drive may not give me the added functionality
I wanted.
===========================================================================
Calvin Ostrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Christopher Suleske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FTP daemon resetting folder permissions???
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:59:16 -0400
Hi. I'm running the most recent anonymous FTP daemon that comes with
6.0. An interesting "feature" is that every so often, the permissions
and owners of the standard setup folders (pub, etc) are reset to their
initially installed values. Is this a feature run by cron somewhere? I
don't recall this in earlier versions.
What I do is change the owner of pub, so it can be maintained by a
non-root user.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gilles Pelletier)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Chmoding directories for «O»thers: x or rx?
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:19:01 GMT
«Unix for the Impatient» (p. 45), on chmoding directories:
«Normallay r is granted whenever x is; you can get some strange
effects if a directory has x but not r. For instance, if a directory
has x turned on but not r, you can't list its contents, but if you
already know its contents, you can delete or copy its files.»
Those "strange effects" remain unexplained to me. How can one delete
or copy files to a directory if "w" permission is not granted? How
could NOT granting "r" permission jeopardize security?
Gilles Pelletier
--
Rencontrez Néfertiti, Einstein, Tocqueville, etc.
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From: Generalissimo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:11:03 -0700
MK wrote:
> >We're talking
> >about a total collapse of Russian society; massive starvation and plagues.
> >And *that's* when Stalin took power; people can't bring themselves to care
> >for democracy/socialism when they can't feed their children.
>
> Nope. Stalin took over when everything was already largely settled
> down.
Ahem.... Well, that's not true either--Stalin took over _before_ it all
happened, and it is due to his wise leadership that most of that had
happened at all. But he was certainly "standing on the shoulders of the
giants" so to say, because his predecessors didn't shy away from
mass-murder either, although they didn't perpertate it in such a degree
as he later did.
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From: "J. Ronald Jarvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kdm instead of xdm??
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:38:22 -0400
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can somebody please tell me how to make kdm available at startup instead
> of xdm?
> Thanks!
In /etc/inittab, make the following changes:
Before--> x:5:respawn:/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon #path to xdm may
different for you
After--> x:5:respawn:$KDEDIR/bin/kdm -nodaemon #where $KDEDIR is
the KDE install directory
--
Ron Jarvis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ventis secundis, tene cursum.
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From: "Boisy G. Pitre" <boisy@(REMOVE_THIS)acadian.net>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech
Subject: SB16 WavEffects/DMA Programming Frustrations
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:31:38 -0500
I have a SoundBlaster 16 WavEffects card I picked up at my local Wal-Mart
and am writing a driver for it under a proprietary Pentium-based OS. So far
I'm having excellent success with 8 bit mono and stereo record and playback
in my driver using the PC's 8237 DMA controller.
However, 16 bit playback is not working correctly. I found out through
discussions on this and other newsgroups that this particular SB 16 card
only works with the 8 bit DMA channels (0-3) and not with the 16 bit DMA
channels (4-7). Using a PnP utility on the card confirms that indeed, it
only accepts DMA channels in the range 0-3
So my question is: how the *hell* do I get 16 bit sound with an 8 bit DMA
channel? Do I set up the DMA controller in the exact same way as I set it
up for 8 bit mode? Do I program the SB card as normal? Are there any
special considerations in doing 16 bit sound on an 8 bit channel?
I'm stumped here, and would appreciate some help. Thanks.
--
Boisy G. Pitre
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From: Mark Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Burning logos on CD
Date: 14 Jul 1999 19:34:48 GMT
AOL may not have a "cool" reputation, but I think their latest CDs
are cool - they have their logo burned into the CD outside the
data track. Has anyone tried to do this sort of thing on Linux?
Most of the CDRs I burn take up only a small percent of the
recording surface leaving plenty of room for random art.
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From: "Academic Computer Center" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Error: LILO doesn't support VGA mode presetting
Date: 14 Jul 1999 19:18:07 GMT
Hey now,
easiest thing is to remove that call all together. Lilo will default boot
into the proper vga mode for your kernal. I had the same prob. (got a video
mode is not supported message) once i took it out from lilo everything was
fine.
HTH
David P.,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hi,
>
> Mike wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was just reconfiguring my lilo.conf such that I can use the
> > Framebuffer device X-server. As stated in the Framebuffer-Howto, I
need
> > VGA=ask in my lilo.conf. LILO didn't like this. When I run it I get
> > the error "VGA mode presetting is not supported by your kernel". My
> > kernel is 2.2.5-ac3-mdk. I have been experimenting with all the
console
> > kernel options and no matter which I compile in I still get this error.
> > Has anyone encountered this before and know of a solution?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike
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From: "David Eno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat
Subject: Major RedHat 6.0 Disappointment
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:50:59 GMT
I'm disappointed. I've installed Linux roughly 50 times without a problem.
I recently bought a P3-450, 128M, 3COM NIC, 13G HDD. As I've done lots of
times before, I install Win98 on a small partition, and Linux right behind
it.
Red Hat 6.0 runs great for about 1-2 minutes, and then the system hangs.
The mouse cursor disappears, the keyboard's gone. Everything locks up.
C-A-D doesn't even work.
Open Linux runs fine, but it doesn't meet my needs as a server.
Anyone else have this problem? or a solution?
TIA.
--
Dave E.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 hangs on P3
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:36:49 GMT
In article
<M8_i3.18$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"David Eno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm disappointed. I've installed Linux roughly
50 times without a problem.
> I recently bought a P3-450, 128M, 3COM NIC, 13G
HDD. As I've done lots of
> times before, I install Win98 on a small
partition, and Linux right behind
> it.
>
> Red Hat 6.0 runs great for about 1-2 minutes,
and then the system hangs.
> The mouse cursor disappears, the keyboard's
gone. Everything locks up.
> C-A-D doesn't even work.
>
> Open Linux runs fine, but it doesn't meet my
needs as a server.
>
> Anyone else have this problem? or a solution?
>
> TIA.
>
> --
> Dave E.
>
>
I'm having the same problem the installation goes
ok for some time and then the computer either
reboots
or locks up.
The timing is random sometimes 1 to 3 minutes
and sometimes 20 minutes or more.
I've tried several kernels and I get the same
result.
The system is a PII-400 443BX chipset with 128
megs.
The Linux version is Slackware 4.0.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: star office prints A4 only ?????????
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:40:38 GMT
I still have the same problem. I think it has something to do with
having a previous install of StarOffice 5.0 in another directory, but
removing it will result in not being able to print at all.
If I get desperate enough, I may blow away 5.0 and reinstall 5.1 to see
if that fixes the problem.
Have you had any luck so far?
-Steve Maring
Tarpon Springs, FL
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
edward morrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been trying to print to a HP4 laser jet on unix server
> using star office and the printer ends up always asking of
> A4 paper. I have manually edited the Xpdefaults file to
> include Letter as the only paper size but the printer acts
> as if no change have been made and keeps asking for the A4.
> If i force the printer to print it prints but cuts off the
> bottom.
>
> The printer is on a unix server but I reach the printer
> through a NT server. When setting up the printer In RH6.0 I
> tried to set up the printer with the HP4/5/6 and the othe HP
> filters but all attempts produced garbage output. Finally
> the printer was set up witha plain old postcsript filter and
> does produce good prints in all other applications other
> than staroffice.
> I have also been trying to print to a HP 860c printer on a
> win95 machine but has not had any significant results. The
> printer is set up to be shared by a group and i have made
> sure that my name is there but the print request does not
> even show up on the win95 que. The only tine I was able to
> print to this printer was when I set up th eprinter to be
> shared by every one.
> If you have any solutions for any of these please help!!!!!!
> thanks
>
> **** Posted from RemarQ - http://www.remarq.com - Discussions Start
Here (tm) ****
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Subject: Re: Debian packaging system
Date: 14 Jul 1999 19:36:06 GMT
Andrew_Luke NESBIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyway, I have come to my own personal conclusion, that the Debian
>packaging system, is such a complicated method,
How is it more complicated than an RPM-based system?
>that i feel scared to change a single file sometimes, for fear of screwing
>dpkg's system.
Essentially, when using a distribution with proper package management (be it
dpkg or RPM based), the local administrator should only touch files outside
the directories managed by the package management system, e.g. in
/usr/local/, or ones explicitly listed as configuration files (e.g. "dpkg
--status mutt" lists /etc/Muttrc as its configuration file).
>It seems to me that practically everything must be done through dpkg.
You should only use a package management based distribution if you accept
the premise of package management: you, as the local system administrator,
explicitly relinquish control of your system to some degree, in exchange for
not having to know and do everything yourself, by having package maintainers
take care of things for you.
>The whole thing just seems way too convoluted and complicated, especially
>for my standalone machine which I use at home, basically just to do TeX and
>C/C++.
Suppose you want to update your TeX install to teTeX 1.0 now, or your C/C++
development environment to gcc 2.95 next month, how are you going to do
that? I'm running Debian's "unstable" tree; my TeX packages have just been
updated automatically to 1.0 ones. All I had to do was tell the system to
upgrade, and it does so (the works: TeX, LaTeX, MetaFont, MetaPost, Omega
etc.). I happen to be one of Debian's gcc package maintainers. That means I
have to know gcc well, so that I can produce packages that'll simply work,
so that Debian users don't have to know how to build, install and debug gcc
themselves.
>Granted, Debian is very well planned, and everything works, but I just wish
>that the designers had've followed the keep-it-simple principle, which is
>why I am now changing to (my third distro) Slackware 4.0.
There's a corollary to KISS that says: make it as simple as possible, but
not more simple. Debian was started when people started to realise that
building a good distribution wasn't something an individual could do
anymore. We applied KISS to distribution development: make sure a
distribution contains clearly separate chunks (packages), as everyone has
different software needs, and make sure that the chunks work properly (a
dynamically linked xterm binary is useless without the X libraries (package
relationships).
In my experience, just about every Slackware system quickly mutates in a DIY
system. This is a great way of learning the innards of a Linux system, but
not what I'd recommend someone who just wants to TeX and compile.
Ray
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: Amiga will use the Linux kernel.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Jul 1999 19:47:45 GMT
On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 06:50:39 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Spawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: I read a report that Amiga will use the Linux Kernel. Does that mean the
>: new Amiga OS will run on my PC or do I have to buy a Amiga computer?
>
> The new devel machines that where slated to come out later this year are
>supposed to be X86 machines. So yes, you should be able to.
Soo.... they're not using traditional amiga hardware.
They're not using amiga OS.
So what's left to call it an "Amiga" any more?
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