Linux-Misc Digest #47, Volume #21 Fri, 16 Jul 99 00:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: VMware with SuSE 5.3
Re: kppp problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote! (John Brock)
Re: CIA assassinations ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Communicator 4.61 causes temporary X freeze ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
swap partition ("Shahriar Mokhtari")
Re: Why is Microsoft so greedy??? ("louis denger")
Re: Lilo & EZ-Drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [vesafb] framebuffer wont work for me... :( ("deny all")
Re: Shell Scripts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: embedded computers (Stefan Ehlen)
Linux driver for 3Com NIC: (HOKAFF)
Re: M$ Japan claims Linux to be deleted from Tokyo policy meeting's agenda (M.
Buchenrieder)
Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux? (root)
Re: installation question- ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
installation question- ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
linux-Xkernel broadcast problem (Andrew Richards)
Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be? (Xcott Craver)
Re: Full Paths ("J�rgen Exner")
Re: Network unreachable (Coy A Hile)
Where to find documentation on more esoteric X window functions
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
What's needed for StarOffice with Slackware 4.0.0 (Ron Gibson)
Re: Fonts with Word Perfect 8 (Rod Smith)
Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be? (Lars Duening)
Re: Where to find documentation on more esoteric X window functions (Silviu Minut)
Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem (Cameron L. Spitzer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware with SuSE 5.3
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:15:58 -0700
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:37:32 GMT, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>Ask jedi. According to him it is so easy to make any version of any
>Linux program work with any other distribution.
If you were less of a lying rube, you would be aware that
vmware has a Windows-esque installation procedure. I'm
not sure what sort of init system it thinks it's installing
in (looks like Solaris).
[deletia]
--
It helps the car, in terms of end user complexity and engineering,
that a car is not expected to suddenly become wood chipper at some |||
arbitrary point as it's rolling down the road. / | \
Seeking sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: kppp problem
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:06:21 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi
> i think i configured kppp correctly.
> the log shows that the modem dials out and
> connects ok; but after being connected for
> 8-10 seconds, it consistently disconnects/is bumped off
> and starts the whole dial script again.
>
> what could be the problem?
> thanks
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
A little more detail wouldn't hurt. Who is your isp. what
authentication method does it use. if you are using a dial script you
might want to copy it to your next post.
-Elie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Brock)
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote!
Date: 15 Jul 1999 20:35:32 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Helmer Osell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Brian wrote:
>> This is my rule. According to Linus' audio, he pronounces the 'i' the
>> same as he does in his first name. So one could state Linux is just
>> (Linus + Unix = Linu + x = Linux) so one should pronounce the 'i' like
>> you would pronounce the 'i' in the name Linus (in your own native
>> language)!
>>
>> Example:
>> In American English it would be Linux with the 'i' as in 'site' and 'u'
>> as in 'drum' ( IPA = /'laIn @ks/ ). I have _never_ heard an American
>> pronounce the name Linus with an 'i' as in 'tip' ( IPA = /I/ )!! But
>> maybe I live a sheltered life. Perhaps, 'i' as in '<ea>sy' ( IPA =
>> /i/ ) is alright in American English as well if you have a European
>> accent or prefer to sound more stately ;)
>>
>> Pretty simple eh? Works for me. It allows a lot of different
>> interpretations, but all to be correct in there own language. I just
>> don't understand where people get Linux as 'Linix' where both the 'i's
>> are as in 'tip' ( IPA = /`lIn Iks/ ). If I were to say any
>> pronounciation was wrong, that would be the one.
>>
>> IPA Pronunciation Guide:
>> http://language.perl.com/misc/IPA/IPA.2
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> --
>> Brian Rectanus
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Havent heard anyting as idiotic like "so one should pronounce the 'i'
>like you would pronounce the 'i' in the name Linus (in your own
>nativelanguage)!" Get yourself some education. Then you would
>understand that only yankee and some frogeaters are foolish enough to
>think an name could be pronounced in another way than it should be
>pronounced
The names of at least half the cities in Europe are pronounced very
differently by English speakers than by their inhabitants. Are you
saying this is wrong? OF COURSE NAMES ARE PRONOUNCED DIFFERENTLY BY
SPEAKERS OF DIFFERENT LANGUAGES!!! Personally I think pronouncing
"Linux" to rhyme with with the name "Linus" makes the most sense and
sounds most natural in English. Rhyming it with "cynics" is OK too I
guess, although it really sound right to me. But affecting a Swedish
accent and saying "Lee-nooks" is just ridiculous, even if that's the
way Linus says it himself. Linus can get away with it because he
really does have an accent, but I would feel completely silly
introducing Linux to someone and having to pronounce it that way.
--
John Brock
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 15 Jul 1999 18:07:00 -0700
Nonnaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> He believes that ANYONE that does not agree with
> him, he hates, is "evil", and deserves to die. Since no one agrees with him,
> he hates everyone, they are all "evil", and they all should die! That is
> his point.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me...whats your problem?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Communicator 4.61 causes temporary X freeze
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:09:00 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> System:
> diald - to automate dialing for my home network.
> Netscape Communicator 4.61 - for browsing.
> AfterStep 1.7.120 - window manager
> RedHat 6.0 - opsys
>
> When I first start Communicator and click on the
> bookmarks, X freezes. After the connection with
> my ISP is established everything goes back to normal
> and works well.
>
> What is causing X to freeze (not respond to mouse
> clicks)?
>
> Why is Communicator starting a network connection
> so early in the game? I may want to only view
> a local manual written in html.
>
> TIA...
I am having similar problmes in that Netscape freezes X temporarily when I
pull down the bookmarks sometimes. Sometimes it comes back in a few
seconds some times I have to kill the Xserver. Also using 4.61.
Using KDE
64 MB ram
56k us robotics
RH 6.0
kppp to dial up
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From: "Shahriar Mokhtari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: swap partition
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:57:56 -0400
a
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From: "louis denger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.windowsnt,microsoft.public.windows95
Subject: Re: Why is Microsoft so greedy???
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:27:37 +1000
Very Interesting.
Imagine I am in Melbourne (Australia)
I had a problem with W95.
I rang in Sydney (Australia).
They took my credit card number,
I waited 20 min for the service, in vain.
The line turned off.
I got no service at all.
Yet they took $42 out of my credit card.
Go it. The is a very nice little earner...
Salutations
Louis
David wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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>
>I was curious how an administrator of a MS WindowsNT/98/95
>network is supposed to go about downloading all of the service
>packs and various fixes for each of the os's from without having
>to go to each machine? We do not think that we should have
>to pay extra for fallacies that your programmers caused in your
>software. There should be an easily accessible, freely available
>ftp server of which we can download all of the various fixes for all
>of you software and operating systems.
>
>
>P.S. On a side note, our company is undergoing evaluation of whether
>or
>not we will be switching our entire network to linux desktop/server
>machines.
>If microsoft doesn't pull their act together it's definitely going to
>happen.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lilo & EZ-Drive
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:02:54 -0400
WME wrote:
> At first I partitioned the drive normally with fdisk and was successfully
> able to format and boot to it with 'DOS'. Just the basic system files. After
> that I tried to install Windows NT then I got core dump before I even got to
> the GUI. When I tried to remove the partition again. It didn't work. I had
> to use EZ-BIOS.
>
> > I updated my Bios I had no need to install EZ-Bios. Why did you need to
> install
> > it? Are you running a dual boot? Be specific b/c if you are not dual
> booting
>
> I am not sure what 'dual boot' is. Are u referring to a software or
> something like 'lilo' or 'NT Loader'? It is clearly mentioned on the box
> that EZ-BIOS doesn't support UNIX or OS/2. That's why I didn't try to
> install lilo with EZ-BIOS. I have read that EZ-BIOS determines whether it's
> installation is needed or not and if not, it is not installed.
>
> The motherboard I have is a supermicro and I noticed that after updating
> the bios, the system is not able to restart through any software. Other than
> that the bios is OK.
Like I said I never tried to use ez-bios so I can't help you if ou install it.
If things are working correctly good. If not give very specific details of what
you are trying to do. Give the number and size of partitions , as well as the
type of partition you made,and what OS you intent to put on them.
Also you should probably check to see if bios is running in lba mode.
If you want to start new I suggest that you delete all partitions. Run Ez-drive
and see if it still wants to install ez-bios. If not there should be no
problem. Otherwise you can reply back here with exactly what you want to do and
I'll try to help.
-Elie
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From: "deny all" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [vesafb] framebuffer wont work for me... :(
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:28:36 GMT
I've got the framebuffers running on RH5.2 with an ATI Rage128.
I may have misunderstood your problems, but have you actually created
/dev/fb0
mknod /dev/fb0 c 29 0 (If I remember correctly)
This link told me everything I needed to know regarding the installation
http://www.uno.edu/~adamico/banshee/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>I have problems getting the framebuffer to work.
>My setup is as follows:
>
>TYAN TITAN PRO - 2x PPRO 200
>2 x MATROX MILLENIUM (BIOS 3.0)
>ADAPTEC 2940
>
>RED HAT 6.0 - KERNEL 2.2.10
>
>I followed the instructions in the framebuffer-HOWTO
>closely - at first trying to use the not-matrox
>accelerated vesa framebuffer. When I boot the
>kernel with vga=ask it doesn�t list other modes
>than the normal ones (for instance, 301 is not listed).
>
>When I try to use fbset, it reports
>
>/dev/fb0 - unknown device
>
>Needless to say, that the matrox-accelerated framebuffer
>also doesn�t work. During boot it switch to a black
>screen and freezes.
>
>What am I missing ?
>
>I feel I must get this to work before asking how to make
>use of my second graphiccard... multihead... etc...
>
>Please advice if you can.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>--
>--
> Regards & Gruesse from Mickey @ http://www.Vanille.de
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> How could anyone know me - when I don't even know myself ?
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Shell Scripts
Date: 16 Jul 1999 01:49:44 GMT
Unless your scripts are very simple you might consider
perl instead of shell scripting. Perl has numerous
advantages over shell scripts when programs get more
complex, or require more capability (e.g. sockets).
Perl also runs on a variety of opsys's. And it's
surprisingly (but not completely) portable in my
experience (WinNT, VMS, UNIX).
Since your signature says you are in a webmaster
program, you probably already know it's great for CGI.
Jim McIntyre wrote:
>
> I'm new to writing shell scripts, and would like to know if there are
> any newsgroups related to this subject.
>
> Thankx in advance
> Jim McIntyre
> Webmaster Program
> Dalhousie University
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Ehlen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: embedded computers
Date: 10 Jul 1999 08:32:51 GMT
In article <7m31pv$ml4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brett Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello I am Computer Engineering student and for my senior design project I
> am using the Explorer II microcontroller (EXPLRII) to interface with a
> desktop computer, through the serial port. I was wondering if Linux could
> be used as a viable operating system for the embedded computer. If anyone
> has any valuable advice it would most helpful. Thank you.
>
> Brett
Check out www.uclinux.org
CU
Stefan
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From: HOKAFF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Linux driver for 3Com NIC:
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:39:36 -0500
Does anyone know where I can get the Linux driver for 3Com's
OfficeConnet 3CSOHO100-TX Fast Ethernet NIC ?
--kk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: M$ Japan claims Linux to be deleted from Tokyo policy meeting's agenda
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:19:38 GMT
[Please note FollowUp-To: header]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown) writes:
[...]
>more importantly, how can he get away with caling linux a trademark?
[...]
Because it is a trademark.
Michael
--
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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From: root <"NOSPAM propsync"@stratos.net>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:40:03 -0500
Brad Grimes wrote:
> If so, I'm writing a magazine article about operating systems and I'd like
> to hear from you. Drop me a line at:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks.
I am happy to say that I am 100% completely windows free for the
last 2 months. Linux satisfies all my needs, including games.
Just purchased Civilization call to power and am running
quake2.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: installation question-
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:11:35 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there a problem booting with a Rh5.2 boot disk and then continuing
> install from a 6.0 cd?
>
I got my own answer. No it won't work. It may look like it does but
there will be some very subtle errors. very subtle.
DON'T EVEN TRY IT PILGRIM!
-Elie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: installation question-
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:43:58 -0400
Is there a problem booting with a Rh5.2 boot disk and then continuing
install from a 6.0 cd?
-Elie
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From: Andrew Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux-Xkernel broadcast problem
Date: 16 Jul 1999 02:46:15 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to use the linux-Xkernel-2.0e package to boot sun3 xterminals
from a linux box. Everything appears to be setup pretty much correctly
however I have a problem with bootparamd.
Everything appears to work correctly. The boot image is correctly
tftp'd, the IP and NFS root are found (by bootparams), vmunix is loaded
and few boot messages are printed. After this, however, the client makes
another bootparam request and this time hangs indefinitely.
Reason: When the boot image makes the bootparam request it uses
132.181.255.255 as the broadcast address but when vmunix makes a bootparam
request it broadcasts on 132.181.0.0 which linux will not respond to.
(BTW: if I use an old sunos machine to run bootparamd then everying works as
it will respond to 0.0 broadcasts. It is a dying machine however)
This can't be a problem with the root images as I've monitored the nfs and
the only file it loads is /vmunix. I'm using the files supplied in
linux-Xkernel-2.0e.
I'm using stock RH6.0 with the nfs-server in linux-Xkernel-2.0e and have
tried bootparamd from RH and from the linux-Xkernel.
Any ideas?
--
Andrew
=====
"If winning is not important, then why keep score?" - Worf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Xcott Craver)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be?
Date: 16 Jul 1999 01:56:19 GMT
William Edward Woody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Compared to what? SGI workstations? You certainly can't
>be comparing Apple hardware to the PC world, as the designs
>there are still stuck in the early 80's.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I see. Just point me to where I can buy a four-processor
MacIntosh, and I'll throw away this early-80's junk.
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Full Paths
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:12:29 -0700
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[...]
> I don't see why I should have to add /usr/russ to the
> path, if in side the directory wanting to run the program. [...]
But exactly that is the whole point of the search path.
Either have the directory in your search path or explicitely specify the the
full (or relative) path of the executable.
jue
--
J�rgen Exner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Subject: Re: Network unreachable
Date: 15 Jul 1999 23:02:39 -0400
In article <7mkth9$iaf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
J.N. Subrahmanyam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dear friends,
>I just installed linux from the redhat CD. Everything except the Network
>part is working fine.
>
>When i ping it is saying that network is unreachable. Even
>if i ping to the local machine, it is saying network is unreachable.
>
>My Network card is SMC-ultra, eth0.
>
>Could somebody give me solution to this.
>
some things to consider:
is the appropriate module loaded? what does ifconfig return? what does
the routing table look like?
Any of this information would be necessary to properly diagnose the problem
and correctly fix it.
Coy
--
Coy Hile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Where to find documentation on more esoteric X window functions
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:47:23 GMT
(I tried posting this to Comp.windows.x, but there was no reply,
so, since I happen to read this newsgroup a lot anyway, here goes...)
I've worked as a computer programmer of and on, mostly in unix, for
quite a few years. I was in school before X-Windows existed. I have, in the
course of various jobs been exposed to X, and picked up some stuff by osmosis,
but recently, I decided to fill in some of the gaps. I started with the
Xlib Programming Manual, Volume 1 by Adrian Nye from O'Reilly (that's because
I had a copy laying around that I snapped up used for $2 while browsing in a
bookstore). However, I was looking at a GIF image of the Linux Penguin Logo
with Imagemagick and saw that it was not a square image, and thought neat,
how do they do that? Couldn't seem to find anything in the Nye book, so I
cranked up gdb and tracked down the calls in Imagemagick to where it looked
like XShapeCombineMask was the key. I tried 'man XShapeCombineMask' and it
gave the arguments but as far as description was concerned it just said:
"This manual pages <sic> needs a lot more work."
I tried looking at the source of the function, and all it does
is call a macro named GetReq (the comments where GetReq is defined
say it's used to get the next available X request packet in the buffer)
and set some values in an object there. So it looks like the real work
is done deep in the bowels of the code, I suspect in various servers
for hardware that can support the function.
Anyway, I don't want to have to figure it all out from the source
code if there's a book that explains it. So, is there? I saw a book for
$50 on Barnesandnoble.com called "X Window System: Extension Library", by
Robert W. Scheifler and others. He's the guy who gave X Window its name
isn't he? Would that book be the one to get? If not, what? or what books
in addition? because presumably I'll want to know about other functions of
it's ilk.
Regards,
Carl
Cleave yourself to logodedaly and you cleave yourself from clarity
----also: remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Subject: What's needed for StarOffice with Slackware 4.0.0
Date: 16 Jul 1999 03:04:18 GMT
I finally got enough room and recently installed Slackware 4.0.0
I'd like to try StarOffice. I believe it's free for home usage.
What additional files, if any, do I need?
I installed A, AP, D, N, K, X and XAP
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Fonts with Word Perfect 8
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:55:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Anand Singh Bisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello
>
> I am a new bie to Linux and am having difficulties in installing
> fonts to Word Perfect 8 in Redhat Linux 6.0... rather i am not able to
> install any of then at all... what should i do please help me out...
First, you need the retail version to install fonts; the downloadable
version doesn't have the font installer.
If you've got the retail version, check my web site on the subject:
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/wpfonts.html
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Duening)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be?
Date: 16 Jul 1999 02:54:30 GMT
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:10:31 -0700, William Edward Woody
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lars Duening <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > Well, "can't sue" means for me that Apple won't even be able to file a
> lawsuit
> > in the first place; "thrown out of court" means for me that the lawsuit
> was
> > filed and then (after Be's defense) dismissed. Money- and lawyerwise, I
> can
> > imagine that there is a difference.
>
> There's actually more ways than that for a lawsuit to be thrown
> out of court. Actually, the phrase "thrown out of court" is usually
> applied to those cases which are summarily dismissed during
> the motion phase before the case actually goes to trial. Before,
> by the way, Be has an opportunity to present a forman defense.
Ah, thanks for the information.
> Going through discovery and to trial can cost many months
> or even years of time and huge legal fees--this is one of
> the reasons why many cases you hear about take a year or two
> to eventually go to trial.
And I think this is the point in the Apple-Be scenario. Maybe it's sufficient
for Be to send a junior lawyer, but then, maybe not (I would be very surprised
if there is any clever lawyer would not be able to come up with something
which is not easily dismissed).
--
Lars Duening; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to find documentation on more esoteric X window functions
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:28:54 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (I tried posting this to Comp.windows.x, but there was no reply,
> so, since I happen to read this newsgroup a lot anyway, here goes...)
>
> I've worked as a computer programmer of and on, mostly in unix, for
> quite a few years. I was in school before X-Windows existed. I have, in the
> course of various jobs been exposed to X, and picked up some stuff by osmosis,
> but recently, I decided to fill in some of the gaps. I started with the
> Xlib Programming Manual, Volume 1 by Adrian Nye from O'Reilly (that's because
> I had a copy laying around that I snapped up used for $2 while browsing in a
> bookstore). However, I was looking at a GIF image of the Linux Penguin Logo
> with Imagemagick and saw that it was not a square image, and thought neat,
> how do they do that? Couldn't seem to find anything in the Nye book, so I
> cranked up gdb and tracked down the calls in Imagemagick to where it looked
> like XShapeCombineMask was the key. I tried 'man XShapeCombineMask' and it
> gave the arguments but as far as description was concerned it just said:
>
> "This manual pages <sic> needs a lot more work."
>
> I tried looking at the source of the function, and all it does
> is call a macro named GetReq (the comments where GetReq is defined
> say it's used to get the next available X request packet in the buffer)
> and set some values in an object there. So it looks like the real work
> is done deep in the bowels of the code, I suspect in various servers
> for hardware that can support the function.
> Anyway, I don't want to have to figure it all out from the source
> code if there's a book that explains it. So, is there? I saw a book for
> $50 on Barnesandnoble.com called "X Window System: Extension Library", by
> Robert W. Scheifler and others. He's the guy who gave X Window its name
> isn't he? Would that book be the one to get? If not, what? or what books
> in addition? because presumably I'll want to know about other functions of
> it's ilk.
>
> Regards,
> Carl
>
> Cleave yourself to logodedaly and you cleave yourself from clarity
> ----also: remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem
Date: 16 Jul 1999 02:57:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Horst von Brand wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Holger Petersen) writes:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer) writes:
>> >One of the most frequent FAQ/complaints about LILO is the requirement
>> >to maintain an entire partition inside the first 1024 cylinders, so
>> >that BIOS can see all the blocks of a bootimage located there.
>
>This isn't a lilo problem, it's a BIOS problem. Others make believe they
>don't get bitten by it by silently installing the OS first, i.e., before
>the limit.
That's true. But I think it would be possible for lilo to work
around it in many cases, in user space, and the file system(s) could really
fix it. I got partway through prototyping a
cp that tries to write only BIOS-accessible blocks, but got distracted
by work and the KPFA situation. Maybe this weekend.
The cp_low program builds a "decoy" file along with the desired copy,
in hopes of consuming unusable blocks, then unlinks it. Moving old files
by copying them would be another strategy. Thanks to the
folks who suggested ftruncate(2) to jettison unusable blocks from the
desired copy.
Cameron
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