Linux-Misc Digest #47, Volume #25 Wed, 5 Jul 00 11:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Netscape crashed on SMP system (Bettina Grohnert)
Converting script to binary ("kana_krishna")
Re: Mounting an ATAPI CD-RW (Darko)
Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. ("Jeffrey Gudmann")
Re: Corel PhotoPaint (Rainer Krienke)
Re: lilo and vga=... (Florian E.J. Fruth)
Re: Command line???!?!?!?!?!?!?! ("Mark M.")
Re: ppp compression (Fabian Gebhardt)
Local News Server (leafnode/INN) (Fabian Gebhardt)
Re: .sh file extension ("max barwell")
Re: Command line???!?!?!?!?!?!?! (Big Daddy)
Web server + cache (Ben Chausse)
Re: 2.2.16 eepro100 driver problems (Eric Lamarque)
Re: newsreader for Linux? (Alex Fitterling)
Re: Corel PhotoPaint (Alex Fitterling)
Partition Magic & Boot Manager (Dennis)
getting tapedrive working (Martijn Brouwer)
Re: Mounting an ATAPI CD-RW ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux Crashes (Richard Goldberg)
Re: How to build a time server? (Akira Yamanita)
Re: Corel PhotoPaint (Dave Brown)
Re: Getting Redhat on 12 MB (Tom Eastep)
Newbie: Help with setting up server (Mark Hymers)
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From: Bettina Grohnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape crashed on SMP system
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:09:54 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Netscap runs fine on all of my single processor linux boxes.
But on the SMP (dual intel pentium with SuSE 6.4) most of the pages crash.
I have the latest netscape version. The system itself is stable.
Does anyone share this experience? Can you help me?
Thanks,
Betti
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From: "kana_krishna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Converting script to binary
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:44:01 +0800
I need help on this matter . I have done a script to automate a ftp transfer
. What I want to do now , is convert this script into binary format ,so that
other people who have access cannot view the file . Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darko)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mounting an ATAPI CD-RW
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 11:28:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gareth Howell wrote:
>
>I can't seem to mount CD's though.
>I've tried mounting /dev/scd0 and I get something like "Wrong major or
>minor number"
>
Try with /dev/sr0 etc. Use the device ide-scsi module reports during
initalization. dmesg might give some hints.
Cheers, Darko
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From: "Jeffrey Gudmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.turbolinux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 11:40:25 GMT
Mike
To use a quaint Australian expression - GUTZ EFFORT !!!
Your comments and suggestions make a lotta sense IMHO.
Particularly like the idea about the TEST MODE.
I have been frigging round with linux for about 2 years now
and can sorta "find my way round". I would hate to think what would
happen to some poor sod who was only use to Win98 and got a copy
of a linux distro on a computer magazine, installed it, mistakenly chose
during the set up to format hda5 (containing all his/her important data
or backups) cos it seemed like a good thing to do) and then opted
to install the boot loader (lilo or worse still grub) to the MBR. Later
after
playing around with Linux decided to scrub the linux partition and wondered
what had happened to the Win98 boot-up.
This sort of scenario would really give Linux a BAD NAME.
Call me a pedantic a*&#hole, but I like things that work, and work properly.
I have lost count on the number of Linux distros I've tried.
You try another coz the one you're using is missing a certain feature, then
you find another that has it but is missing something else and the vicious
circle
begins - trying to find that elusive perfect Linux Distro!!
Then you settle on a Distro that's acceptable and subsequently make the
fatal error - upgrading or getting hold of the next version !!!! And you
find out that things have changed in the next version (like the boot
loader is grub and grub alone now) or the latest version has been
rushed out and is as buggy as hell.
Don't get me wrong - I luuv Linux - but, if Linux is going to succeed in
popularity,
then I believe that the Distro producers should get their act together and
address
amongst other things the points you raise in your commentary.
Ah, it feels better now that I've got that off my chest.
Anyway, enjoyed reading your discertation. When can we expect WarnerLinux
!!!!
Jeff
PS Who is Tatanya - (in best Homer Simpson voice) hhmmmmmmmmmm Tatanya
Oops, sorry - hope she's not your wife/partner - with a comment like
that !!!
Mike Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> TurboShitzu is a mess. Have any of you installed a minumum software set
> and then gone in and tried to do the REAL install using turbopkg? Have
> you noticed that
>
> 1. There is no way to select EVERYTHING? That you have to go down the
> entire f--king list, checking the packages one at a time? Have you
> noticed that turbopkg erupts with a segmentation violation wile trying
> to install one of the network packages? EVERY TIME IN THE SAME PLACE?
>
> At least Mandrake has an EVERYTHING option on *its* package installer.
> Guess I'm not the only one that things its a NO-BRAINER.
>
> 2. Have you noticed that if you select writing the boot loader to the
> root partition that you have NO SUBSEQUENT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A BOOT
> FLOPPY? Boy, what a bunch of friggin geniuses.
>
> About the only good thing I can say about TurboShitzu is that it doesn't
> hose down any other partitions. Try the "rain" release of Storm--the one
> given away in the June issue of Linux Magazine ("Storm" is Sudanese for
> "shitzu"--honest). Yea, notice how the place you end up writing the boot
> loader is buried in a menu option rather than being out front where it
> should be. Notice how, even if you write the boot loader to the root
> partition, it hoses the MBR on C: anyway. Thank god that, compared with
> *these* wankers, I *AM* a bloody genius, so I was able to get the MBR
> back without reinstalling NT. Thank god for *them* that is, because I'm
> quite capable of making a special trip right to their office door where
> I would show them that it is in the long-term interest of their personal
> physical well being that they pull their little pin heads out of their
> pukey little asses. Now where was I?
>
> Now I will give you the short course on how a CORRECT installation
> architecture should proceed.
>
> To begin with,
>
> - the initial installation is NOT the place to be installing monster
> software packages. How many of you have loaded down the platter with a
> gig of software only to find out that you can't boot? The *initial*
> installation should be concerned with ONE THING ONLY: creating
> partitions, setting up recovery mechanisms, and installing a bare-bones
> bootable system. THEN, when you find that everything is copasetic, and
> you've actually logged-in and are grinning from pie-hole to ass-hole,
> NOW start installing the platter-busting mega-system. Fawk. Do I have to
> do everything myself? Apparently.
>
> - Furthermore, the installation should have a TEST MODE that allows you
> to simply create partitions and do a pseudo-boot into the root where you
> would sit and be able to do nothing but reboot. After finding that, yes,
> Margaret, I can create partitions and boot into them using whatever boot
> system I HAVE ALREADY SELECTED, then and only then would the
> installation continue. In essence, the Installation would not be
> SEQUENTIAL; it would be DIRECT-ACCESS and have enough intelligence to
> know what has to be done before what.
>
> - The installation should be able to restore the system to the state it
> was in just before the moment of installation. GUARANTEED. Installing a
> linux system should be COMPLETELY WITHOUT RISK. Period f--king end.
>
> -- If you can't give a WRITTEN GUARANTEE that your distro will NOT
> NEGATIVELY IMPACT the current state of your box, then get out of the
> game. You got no business in it. You're a piss-ant. You can't run with
> the Big Dogs. You're a Tech Shitzu. Get off my leg.
>
> Mike
> --
> http://www.bigfoot.com/~warnerm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rainer Krienke)
Subject: Re: Corel PhotoPaint
Date: 5 Jul 2000 14:04:25 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> David Turley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> Corel is full of shit when it claims this is a Linux app. It's just the
>> windows version running under wine.
>
>> Good enough reason to avoid all Corel apps.
>
> Apart from wordperfect 8, of course.
>
Well it is a windows app but it is running under the great linux project wine.
And after all what counts is the functionality. I downloaded it and it ran out
of the box (on my suse6.4 linux). I only played a little bit around but it did
not crash or showed any other strange behaviour. It even supports the use of a
scanner using SANE (not tested).
So at a first glance (not looking at the sitze of this software) it seems to be
just fine.
Rainer
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Rainer Krienke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universitaet Koblenz, http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~krienke
Rechenzentrum, Voice: +49 261 287 - 1312
Rheinau 1, 56075 Koblenz, Germany Fax: +49 261 287 - 1001312
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From: Florian E.J. Fruth <fejf@gmx*/dev/null*.de>
Subject: Re: lilo and vga=...
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:07:25 +0200
In article <8jtufs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Florian E.J. Fruth (fejf@gmx*/dev/null*.de) wrote:
> [ Hello,
> [ i installed the 2.4.0-test2 kernel with framebuffer support. know i want
> [ to change the graphic mode (on booting).
> [ i read the lilo-howto and help -> they say to add vga=ask to the
> [ lilo.conf should ask me on bootup which vga-mode to use - but it doesn't!
> [ so is there anybody u know what i've forgot or where to get a vga-mode-
> [ list to try a vga=xxx perhaps ?
> er, after adding the line, did you run the lilo command by any chance
> --
> jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
> Registered linux user no. 164098
> Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> --- OUT THERE??
yip ;-)
--
the backup of my harddisk only takes the half time it
did yesterday. i started to pipe it to /dev/null
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From: "Mark M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Command line???!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:30:58 -0400
Richard-
THANK YOU.
MArk
Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Mark M."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> spake unto us, saying:
>
> >I can change permissions through my FTP program, so that's not an
issue...
> >I can open a DOS window at the drop of a hat, but how the hell do I get
to
> >a command line over the net?
>
> The normal way to open a remote terminal session is via telnet. The
> normal syntax is:
>
> telnet hostname.somedomain.com
>
> --
> -Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
> OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
> + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
> "Bother," said Pooh, as he rebooted the server.
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From: Fabian Gebhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp compression
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 14:37:51 +0200
Matthew Nimmo wrote:
> alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
> alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
> alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate
Thanks a lot. The messages are gone.
But I have the same problem like you:
with pppstats -z only zeros!
--
CU, Fabian Gebhardt
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ#: 77948091
Homepage: http://www.ki.tng.de/~gebhardt
Schul-Seite: http://www.ebg.org
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From: Fabian Gebhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Local News Server (leafnode/INN)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 14:45:55 +0200
Hello,
I want to build up a local news server, which gets all possible News on connect.
All clients should use this news server so that we are not downloading the
articles twice.
Is that possible?
I heard leafnode is good for this. Or better INN?
How can I do this?
--
CU, Fabian Gebhardt
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ#: 77948091
Homepage: http://www.ki.tng.de/~gebhardt
Schul-Seite: http://www.ebg.org
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From: "max barwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .sh file extension
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 00:41:45 +1200
It means its a shell script, use it like this
sh someprogram.sh
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am new to linux, I have installed a few programs, but i cannot install
> the quake3 demo. How do you use the .sh file extension as in :
> linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh? Thanks.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com http://www.help.com/
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Command line???!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Date: 5 Jul 2000 12:52:12 GMT
telnet ($ telnet the.other.host.org) is pretty standard, but being
replaced by SSH (*S*ecure *Sh*ell)... basically, an encrypted telnet.
If the server you want to connect to has an SSH server running, use
that. You can get free ssh clients for windows by searching just that
from yahoo ("free ssh clients"). I use putty myself. I also have a
mindterm applet installed on my machine's webserver (search "mindterm"
from www.freshmeat.net), which allows me to SSH from a web page. Pretty
nifty. ;-)
--
Big Daddy
Carpenter's rule: cut to fit; beat into place.
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From: Ben Chausse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.unix.admin,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Web server + cache
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 13:06:52 GMT
Hi,
What will the best between a Xeon 700 with 512 kb of cache and a Xeon
700 with 2 MB of cache ?
Does cache help a webserver ??? Does it need more than 512 KB ?
Thankx ...
Ben0i
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From: Eric Lamarque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: 2.2.16 eepro100 driver problems
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 15:03:42 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Timothy J. Lee" wrote:
>
> With kernel 2.2.16, compiling the eepro100 into the kernel (not as
> a module) does not seem to work. The following messages appear in
> the dmesg:
>
> eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout!
It seems that eepro100 in 2.2.16 driver has a problem:
here, on a very standard configuration, and the driver compiled
as kernel module, I obtain periodically:
eth0:Printing Rx ring (next to receive into 503127).
Rx ring entry 0 00000001.
[...]
PHY index 1 register 4 is 05e1.
PHY index 1 register 5 is 0021.
PHY index 1 register 21 is 0000.
eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter...
The same machine ran happilly for a long time with a kernel 2.2.13
and the driver as a module.
Any solution or fixes?
Eric.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Fitterling)
Subject: Re: newsreader for Linux?
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:32:32 +0200
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Is there a newsreader available for Linux? I get the news files via UUCP
> would like to read them in Linux instead of DOS. Thanks.
>
> Regards...John
>
> --
> to email replace 'at' and '-dot-' to napoli-dot-atlanta at
> mindspring-dot-com
>
>
Hi,
it doesn't really matter of what client you're using.. there plenty of them... I
personally prefer knews... it's doing its job well... (also all the other's named in
this thread are pretty cool..)- but! what's so quite different (and now I'll come to
the point..) in Linux.. is, that you now would be able to run your own newsserver to
simualte offline reading.. this is pretty cool stuff and also much better functional
then in all this micros**t... So, you should run leafnode and any newsreader you
want.. doensn't matter then if you're offline or not... leafnode (if configured.. it's
so easy!) will do the rest for you... try it out..
greetings, alex
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Fitterling)
Subject: Re: Corel PhotoPaint
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:59:11 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown) writes:
> I downloaded it from their ftp server, but it took several tries (used
> FileRunner, which does "resume FTPs").
..excuse me to interrupt you guys... ;) but where could I get these things.. (my
thread's starting in middle of your conversation... so..)..and is there also Corel
Draw available ?? this sounds beautiful in my ears... awaiting your answer..
alex
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From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition Magic & Boot Manager
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 09:51:33 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I read some where that using PM is a good idea where you need to re-size
a Win partition, but don't use the boot loader that comes with it - use
Lilo instead. I will be running Win98, WinNT, Linux, and maybe Win2000;
so a boot manager seems like a good idea. Any comments?
Dennis,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: getting tapedrive working
Date: 5 Jul 2000 11:00:30 GMT
What do I need to get my QIC80 tape drive working.
I have a 2.2.14 kernel with the ftape module. I can insmod the ftape
module, but when I try to do something very simple with tar (tar test
/dev/nrft0 or something like that) or even mt, it complains that the
operation is not possible with this device. So what do I need to do?
thanks,
_________________________________________________________
Martijn Brouwer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remove the capital letters S P A M from my adress
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mounting an ATAPI CD-RW
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: 5 Jul 2000 10:00:21 -0400
In comp.os.linux.hardware Gareth Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've managed to get my IDE ATAPI CD-RW working .. well, sortof.
> I followed the HOW-TO (recompiled kernel with generic SCSI support etc
> etc), and I'm
> now able to burn CD's to my heart's content.
You can burn with only SCSI support and the generic SCSI driver (and maybe
the vendor extensions). On the other hand, to read from it (mount it) you
will need SCSI-CD-ROM support too.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Goldberg)
Subject: Re: Linux Crashes
Date: 5 Jul 2000 13:53:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Hunter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:
: Richard> Hi all, I've been running linux for years on several
: Richard> different machines. My current machine at work is a
: Richard> PII400 with 196 Mb ram running VA Linux's version of Red
: Richard> Hat. The only interesting piece of software I'm running
: Richard> is VMWare 2.0.1 ....
:
: That surprises me; my version of RHL comes with *lots* of interesting
: software: emacs, gcc, bison, netscape, gimp, cdrecord, X windows,
: LaTeX, perl and more. You should check with your vendor...
Thats not what I mean by interesting. By interesting I mean unusual software
that might make the system less stable or make things harder to debug.
I love all of the cool software that linux comes with and I use a
surprisingly large amount of it on a regular basis.
-Rick
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to build a time server?
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 14:20:45 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi! I am new to this topic.
>
> I wanna build a time server so that other hosts can adjust time
> automatically according the time of the time server. What hint could
> you provide for me and where can I get useful information for it?
> Thanks.
Try this site: http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/
You probably already have xntp packaged in your distribution.
Anyway, what you're looking for is a NTP daemon. A search
on http://freshmeat.net/ will turn up a few.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Corel PhotoPaint
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 Jul 2000 09:21:27 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alex Fitterling wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> I downloaded it from their ftp server, but it took several tries (used
>> FileRunner, which does "resume FTPs").
>..excuse me to interrupt you guys... ;) but where could I get these things..
>(my thread's starting in middle of your conversation... so..)..and is there
>also Corel Draw available ?? this sounds beautiful in my ears... awaiting
>your answer..
>alex
Which things? Corel Photopaint--start at http://linux.corel.com; FileRunner,
listed on http://freshmeat.net/ (search: "file runner")
I haven't seen any announcement on Corel Draw yet, except that there are plans
to make it available also.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Eastep)
Crossposted-To:
at.linux,comp.os.linux.embedded,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install,redhat.kernel.general,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: Getting Redhat on 12 MB
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:55:14 -0700
the fat heffer wrote:
>HI
>Does anyone know whether its possible to get redhat on to a 12mb disk
>I have heard you can recompile the kernal or something
No kernel recompilation is necessary -- what problems are you having?
-Tom
--
Tom Eastep \ Eastep's First Principle of Computing:
ICQ #60745924 \ "Any sane computer will tell you how it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ works if you ask it the proper questions"
Shoreline, Washington USA \___________________________________________
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Hymers)
Subject: Newbie: Help with setting up server
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 14:56:14 GMT
I want to set up an old 486 using Linux (I only have a copy of RH5.2)
to act as a server for a home network. I want it to do these things:
1) Provide access to the internet for all the machines using a dial up
account which is activated when one of the computers (using Win98)
puts in an internet request.
2) Obtains email from different POP3 accounts and holds it on the
server so the users can pick it up from there. (I would like it to get
all the mail every time it connects)
3) Collects outgoing mail and sends it next time it is connected.
4) Acts as a file server, providing a mapped drive in Win98 relevant
to the user who is logged on. (Is there a client program like that for
Netware for Win98). (If this question isn't relevant here, could
someone point me to the right newsgroup).
I know that there is a lot here so am only expecting to be pointed in
the right direction not given detailed instructions.... Hopefully
there may be a guide for stupid people like me to accomplish this sort
of thing!
Thanks for any help
Mark
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