Linux-Misc Digest #47, Volume #24 Wed, 5 Apr 00 03:13:04 EDT
Contents:
dos xserver to acces linux xserver connections. ("Michael Westerman")
Re: Logging stopped on RH 5.2 (no output to "messages" log)
Re: Multiple CPU ("Ben Mcgilvray")
Linux Reliability (Saurabh)
Re: Word documents viewer? (Michael Hofmann)
Re: Linux Reliability (Daniel Ng)
libg2c.a what is it? (Oliver Gebele)
Re: Linux Reliability ("T.J. Cruise")
Re: BOOKS ON LINUX ? (Daniel Ng)
Re: booting (usr loco)
Re: Printer Drivers (Daniel Ng)
Re: Linux under Windows NT ("Dan")
How to restore LILO ("Ryan S.")
Re: nt using less memory than Linux?? (Glitch)
Re: Linux Reliability ("Michael Westerman")
Re: HTTP Access - Hot to Limit? (Glitch)
Kernel recompile - cannot read from CDROM ("Peet Grobler")
Re: bash special characters (Robin Becker)
Re: I need help getting AWE64 working (David Steuber)
Re: Visio (Microsoft vs. Unix) (David Steuber)
Re: bash special characters (Villy Kruse)
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dos xserver to acces linux xserver connections.
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:12:51 +1000
is there a dos xserver small and svga that i can use to connect to a linux
box
for remote apps.
if so where can i find these?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Logging stopped on RH 5.2 (no output to "messages" log)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 05:08:04 GMT
In article <CPmG4.9748$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Heinz Wittenbecher wrote:
>All of a sudden all output to /var/log/messages has stopped.
>
>The file is zero length so it may have happened on a "rotate", but I don't
>know where. It would be a rotate that got installed way back when as part of
>the initial install, which was a long time ago. It's been behaving real good
>(many years).
>
>Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
>
>TIA - Heinz
>
>***********************************************************************
>* Heinz Wittenbecher, Byte Designs Ltd. Voice: (604) 534-0722 *
>* [EMAIL PROTECTED] Langley, BC CANADA Fax: (604) 534-2601 *
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If syslogd is running try ...
kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslogd.pid`
If syslogd is not running then start it.
Those are the only two things I can think
of at the moment.
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From: "Ben Mcgilvray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Multiple CPU
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:20:38 +1000
Hi,
Yes redhat des suport multiple CPU's..
Maximum? How many can you afford?
Stability? I haven't had a problem with it on my box..
Duel Celeron 433
Abit BP6
128 ram
Next step is t get the U66 controller working.....
Ben
> Hi,
> Does Redhat 6.1 support multiple cpu? What's the maximum no. of CPU
> supported? How's the stability of such configuration? Thanks!
> Chris
>
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From: Saurabh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Reliability
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 05:30:05 GMT
Hello,
I have Windows 95. I am planing to add LInux in my PC but the problem is
there are frequent power cuts ion our city. The power cuts does not create
any problem even if my PC is on in case of windows 95 as it simply runs the
scandisk when PC restarts agian. What about linux ? Will linux create any
problem if computer goes off when linux is on ?
Please help me. Should i Install linux.
Saurabh.
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From: Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Word documents viewer?
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 07:33:48 +0200
Alexei Gromov wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> > You might also try mswordview.
>
> URL?
It should be easy to find in places like www.freshmeat.net
I just checked... And found it got renamed to wv.
Have fun,
Michael
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From: Daniel Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Reliability
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:05:17 -0700
Linux also fixes disk errors during booting if the hard drives are not cleanly
unmounted.
In any case, it is not a good idea to leave PC on if the power goes off
frequently.
It will damage the hard disks.
Saurabh wrote:
> Hello,
> I have Windows 95. I am planing to add LInux in my PC but the problem is
> there are frequent power cuts ion our city. The power cuts does not create
> any problem even if my PC is on in case of windows 95 as it simply runs the
> scandisk when PC restarts agian. What about linux ? Will linux create any
> problem if computer goes off when linux is on ?
> Please help me. Should i Install linux.
> Saurabh.
>
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From: Oliver Gebele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: libg2c.a what is it?
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 07:48:30 +0200
Hello everyone,
Does anybody know what the libg2c.a is used for?
How can i find out what a given library is used for anyway?
TIA & Solong, Oliver
-- =
Ich, setze meine Kommas, da wo ich, will hin.
Lank lehbe dih R=E4chtschaiprephorm.
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From: "T.J. Cruise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Reliability
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:44:00 -0500
If Linux crashes, it can be a bit of a trickier situation... after a loss
of power, crash, etc., Linux runs fsck, which will check the integrity of
your file system, a little like scandisk. At the very least, you will have
a wait a very long time for your system to run these checks, and then it
will boot. I'm not really sure what happens if a process is running and the
power goes out suddenly, as this has never happened to me. On the upside,
Linux doesn't crash often at all. It is a very good OS, and I would
recommend it.
However, if your power goes out often, you might invest in a UPS
(uninterrruptable power supply) for your computer whether you install Linux
or not, because sudden power-offs aren't good no matter what OS you run.
Saurabh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
> I have Windows 95. I am planing to add LInux in my PC but the problem is
> there are frequent power cuts ion our city. The power cuts does not create
> any problem even if my PC is on in case of windows 95 as it simply runs
the
> scandisk when PC restarts agian. What about linux ? Will linux create any
> problem if computer goes off when linux is on ?
> Please help me. Should i Install linux.
> Saurabh.
>
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From: Daniel Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.alpha,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: BOOKS ON LINUX ?
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:08:06 -0700
I believe that the howtos and linux documentation projects are more
useful than most
published books. Besides, some books are just collections of howtos.
Luca Marchese wrote:
> ALL THE BOOKS ON LINUX IN THE WORLD ARE HERE
>
> SCIENTIFIC PUBLISHERS GUIDE
>
> http://scientificpublishers.virtualave.net
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From: usr loco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: booting
Date: 05 Apr 2000 00:53:07 -0400
william hoerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Have installed mandrake 7 booting with options but would prefer floppy boot
> how do disable?
>
>
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hmm, I played with mandrake 7 for a week or 2. I believe
when the lilo prompt comes up you type in "floppy" (minus
the quotes) and press enter. When the lilo prompt first
comes up, press tab and it should show you your options.
I'm almost positive there should be a choice named floppy
with a defualt mandrake 7 install.
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From: Daniel Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printer Drivers
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:13:21 -0700
You can get the errata for that.
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From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux under Windows NT
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:28:19 +1000
I would stay away from these distros.
The run out of a FAT partition, and are therefore a lot slower than what
they would have been in a native Linux partition.
I don't consider any of them serious Linux distributions - more like people
who jumped on the bandwagon to grab all that CASH.
Merits
- supposedly easy to set up (not that REAL linux distibutions are hard)
- no partitioning required (also not very hard)
Demerits
- slow
- more likely to damage your Windows partition if something goes wrong.
- more likely to be damaged by your Windows installation - eg disk
defragmenting / scandisk
- quality? Are these fly-by-night distros?
- lack of pride / people laughing behind your back
Seriously, the small additional effort required to get a real distro going
is well worth it.
Dan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8ce79r$e2r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Guys,
>
> Im sure many of you must have tried the "Linux under
> Windows" distributions. Here are some I know of:
> a> WinLinux 2000
> b> Armed Linux
> c> Phat Linux
> Im sure there are a lot more. I have two Q's:
>
> 1> Which on of these will work properly under Windows NT.
> 2> How do I compare the merits / demerits of one vs. the other to make
> my choice of platform. Are there any of the above that have better
> support and/or have more stability than the other.
>
> My only intention is to work with Linux without crashing my NT
> installation.
>
> Please share your experiences and tell me if you would recommend any of
> these.
>
> Thanks,
> Anil Punjabi
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: "Ryan S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to restore LILO
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 06:33:23 GMT
I had recently started messing with Linux, now I have installed RedHat 6.1
piece of cake. Now the wife thought the LILO prompt was to confusing
(multi-boot Windows98) so being a nice person that I am tried to use
BootMagic. I couldn't get it to work. Now I cant boot Linux. How do I put
LILO back? Cause the wife can learn to deal with it.
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 02:43:56 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: nt using less memory than Linux??
it's called bad research
a console in linux doesn't take 6 megs. if that were the case
universities/isps that had a just a handful of users on at a time would
fall
Henrique Seganfredo wrote:
>
> hey folks...check this...I installed two OSes here...an oldie 1997
> redhat dist with basic networking (NFS, Samba, no apache, no squid) and a NT
> Wks with about the same net capabilities.....the Linux had with KDE as the
> wm, I know that incredbly sucks up memory bad....and I was not surprised
> when I saw:
>
> memory allocated for NT Wks 22 mb of ram
> memory allocated for RedHat with KDE 28 mb of ram.....
>
> each new command line session in NT Wks 1 mb of ram
> each new terminal session in Redhat 6 mb of ram
>
> ...could somebody explain this...or it's just the linux shared library hell
> ???
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Reliability
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:46:04 +1000
i think you can mount the file system so it dosn't delay writes or somthing
like
using the sync option in /ete/fstab ?
Saurabh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
> I have Windows 95. I am planing to add LInux in my PC but the problem is
> there are frequent power cuts ion our city. The power cuts does not create
> any problem even if my PC is on in case of windows 95 as it simply runs
the
> scandisk when PC restarts agian. What about linux ? Will linux create any
> problem if computer goes off when linux is on ?
> Please help me. Should i Install linux.
> Saurabh.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 02:49:09 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HTTP Access - Hot to Limit?
put a javascript window on teh homepage so that only those with
ausername and password can login through the javascript window
Don Stafford wrote:
>
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:20:45 -0500, Don Stafford
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Newbie question:
> >
> >How and where do I setup http access to my RH 6.x Apache web-server ?
> >I need to limit access to the ENTIRE site to known users.
> >I need to give then a name/password login.
> >
> >Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!
>
> I might add that I also running FP2000 extensions
>
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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel recompile - cannot read from CDROM
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:49:48 +0200
Hello.
I re-compiled my linux kernel (2.0.35), after which I was unable to read
from my CDROM. So I went back into make menuconfig, configured the
filesystems. I added every single one there is as a module the first time,
the second time I make ISO9660, MSDOS, and UMSDOS as built-in to the kernel.
So, now when I try mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom, it tells me to specify the fs
type (never needed to do this). So I do it, mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom -t
iso9660, it says iso9660 not recognized by linux kernel.
I go into lisa (to add more software packages), select "Select Installation
Source", "CDROM", then it tells me :
"module isofs.o
This kernel module could not be loaded or initialised"
I looked in /lib/modules/2.0.35/fs, the file isofs.o is there.
I compiled the kernel with the following commands :
make dep; make clean; make zImage; make modules; make modules_install
The only way I get to read from my CD drive now is booting from the old
kernel (I kept a backup!!!).
Please help me!
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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bash special characters
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:51:33 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
...
>>In the previous bash : wasn't special, I'm asking if that is user
>>settable or not.
>
>Your question prompted me to investigate this further, and I
>found the following in man bash
>
>SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS
> : [arguments]
> No effect; the command does nothing beyond expanding
> arguments and performing any specified redirections.
> A zero exit code is returned.
>
>So it seems to be a built in feature in this version.
>
>bash -version
>GNU bash, version 1.14.7(1)
I guess that's it; I used /c: as my win32 drive so will have to call it
something else for ease of use. Making ':' special might affect tar as I
believe they used to use : as an indicator for special kinds of file eg
remote directories etc.
--
Robin Becker
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Subject: Re: I need help getting AWE64 working
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 06:59:58 GMT
Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' alias sound sb
' options /lib/modules/2.2.12/misc/sound.o dmabuf=1
' options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
Does the above automaticly load the modules that sb.o depends on
(soundcore.o, soundlow.o, uart401.o)?
' options opl3 io=0x388
^^^^
What is this one?
' alias midi awe_wave
' post-install awe_wave modprobe opl3; /bin/sfxload /etc/synthgm.sbk
' You really need to get the kernel compilation straight. If you get unresolved
symbols then either the
' kernel and the module are incompatible (either differnt versions, or buggy) or you
forgot to compile
' other modules that are dependencies for the ones with unresolved symbols. The first
case can occur, for
' instance if you load one kernel and try to load modules compiled for a different
version. To see what
I'm not sure what happened with those two modules. It is possible
that they still aren't ANSI enough to compile with GCC 2.95.2. Or the
compiler has some bugs. I believe Linus is still using gcc 2.7.2 for
the kernel. I've banished the older compiler from my system to save
me some confusion. Maybe that has had a negative influence on the
kernel.
In any case, I'm not ready to take on hacking kernel code. I was
happy enough earlier this week to get my ADSL connect script into my
inittab.
However, I did learn some new utils. nm, depmod, & lsmod were all new
to me.
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Everything is controlled by a small evil group to which, unfortunately,
no one we know belongs.
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Visio (Microsoft vs. Unix)
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 06:59:59 GMT
Roger Marquis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' There's more of course but the above examples illustrate the problem
' with even simple libraries like you need for Visio. If you don't
' like it, and few Unix users do, write your representatives in
' Congress and ask what they're doing to support the DOJ in their
' anti-trust case against Microsoft.
I don't think leaving it to the DOJ and congress is the thing to do.
Free software developed using successful open source development
models is one answer. Another answer is for the software industry to
file a class action law suit against Microsoft. We shouldn't be
running to Big Brother for help.
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NRA Member | a hoploholic.
http://www.packetphone.org/
Overflow on /dev/null, please empty the bit bucket.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: bash special characters
Date: 5 Apr 2000 07:02:04 GMT
On 5 Apr 2000 00:56:10 GMT, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Your question prompted me to investigate this further, and I
>found the following in man bash
>
>SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS
> : [arguments]
> No effect; the command does nothing beyond expanding
> arguments and performing any specified redirections.
> A zero exit code is returned.
>
>So it seems to be a built in feature in this version.
>
This can be used as a builtin true function instead of /bin/true like in
while :
do
whatever forever
done
This has been a builtin function also in good old Bourne shell as well
as Korn shell.
Villy
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