Linux-Misc Digest #52, Volume #21                Fri, 16 Jul 99 11:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: root password (Daniel Forester)
  Re: Can't telnet to localhost ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Static IP? ("Nathan D. East")
  FSDEXT Problem (Shengquan Liang)
  offsite online backup ? (Jon Nathan)
  Re: Suse 6.1 and bash (-ljl-)
  Re: Networking Linux and Windows machines. (Sean)
  Re: Can't run executables (yes I use ./) (Leejay Wu)
  logging in is very slow (scable)
  Re: Web server information (Andy Harrison)
  Re: rdump: connection refused (Leonard Evens)
  Re: What's needed for StarOffice with Slackware 4.0.0 (Ron Gibson)
  Setting up a proxy server? (Jason T. Breitweg)
  Re: "system too big".. for WHAT! (Moshe Sayag)
  Re: Static IP? (Bob Martin)
  Re: Linux+NT4+win98 ("J�rgen Pfann")
  Does Linux support 'sar'? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Please help urgent win98 network printer set up with Rh6 (Monte Phillips)

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From: Daniel Forester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: Re: root password
Date: 16 Jul 1999 12:35:50 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Chin Yew Tuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: When I bootup my Linux workstation (installed with redhat 5.2) it gives
: the following error msg:
: 
: "/dev/hda7: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY."
: "*** An error occurred during the file system check."
: "*** Dropping you to a shell; the system will boot"
: "*** when you leave the shell."
: "Give root password for maintenance"
: "(or type Control-D for normal startup):"
: 

What distro?  I did something - still don't know exactly what - and ended
up with this; buncha bad blocks and all that.  I just ended up formatting
& tryin' again.  ;-)

-- 
Daniel E. Forester
Georgia Institute of Technology
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte061f/

"All you need is a computer, and a good-payin' job."
                        --Eric Hollins, Tech student, on life

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't telnet to localhost
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:02:30 GMT

Hi,

Never mind! I found the problem. 

A file accidently got renamed, probably when I was fixing a PPP problem.

ifup-lo should be ifcfg-lo

- Dan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi,
>
>All of a sudden, I can't telnet to localhost on my RedHat 5.2 system.
>
>When I try to telnet to localhost or 127.0.0.1, I get this:
>
>[root@localhost network-scripts]# telnet 127.0.0.1
>Trying 127.0.0.1...
>telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable
>
>[root@localhost network-scripts]# telnet localhost
>Trying 127.0.0.1...
>telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable
>
>However, after dialing in to my ISP with ifup ppp0 -dial. and THEN trying
>to telnet to localhost, instead of getting my own machine, I get some
>machine in my ISP's network!
>
>I must have broken something, but I don't know what. It was working
>perfectly before.
>
>The details:
>
>[root@localhost network-scripts]# more /etc/hosts
>127.0.0.1       localhost       localhost.localdomain
>
>
>[root@localhost network-scripts]# more ifup-lo  <--*** Should be ifcfg-lo
>DEVICE=lo
>IPADDR=127.0.0.1
>NETMASK=255.0.0.0
>NETWORK=127.0.0.0
>BROADCAST=127.255.255.255
>ONBOOT=yes
>BOOTPROTO=none
>
>
>When I'm dialed in to my ISP:
>
>[root@localhost network-scripts]# netstat -rn
>Kernel IP routing table
>Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
>10.65.70.12     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH     1006 0          0  ppp0
>0.0.0.0         10.65.70.12     0.0.0.0         UG     1006 0          0   ppp0
>
>
>When I'm not dialed into my ISP, the routing table is empty.
>
>
>When I try to add 127.0.0.1 to the routing table:
>
>[root@localhost /root]# route add 127.0.0.1
>SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
>
>Does anyone know what the problem is and how I could fix this?
>
>Thanks,
>Dan
>


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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:10:23 -0400
From: "Nathan D. East" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Static IP?

I'm looking to start up a webserver out of my apartment, and I'd like to
find out how I could get a static IP.  I thought a cable modem would do
the trick, but it looks like Roadrunner uses DHCP.  Any ideas?

-Nate


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From: Shengquan Liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FSDEXT Problem
Date: 16 Jul 1999 12:36:50 GMT

I downloaded an FSDEXT (0.17) and installed it
under W98 trying to mount my linux partitions
/hda6,7,8

when i tried mout /dev/hda6
there was an error message saying that
it's not a linux partition.

when i used the relaxed option /r,
it assigned  a letter to /hda6
but that froze "my computer" of W98.

how can i fix this?

thanks.             

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:47:47 -0400
From: Jon Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: offsite online backup ?

hello
does anyone have experience with offsite, online backup services?
i'm looking for a 3rd party solution that would let me automate the backup
of, say, 10 linux machines and 10 solaris machines.  it should be network
based - i install a client, set up a cron job (or schedule it somehow
else), and sit back.  

most everything i've found on this subject is for windows-based computers.
they're a dime a dozen, even.  surely some large companies must do this
for unix systems.

maybe most people who run unix networks do their own onsite backup, but i
don't want to be bothered by it.

if you can, please cc my email. 

thanks

-- 
Jon Nathan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rupture.net/~jon/


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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suse 6.1 and bash
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:43:55 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have the bash shell on my Suse 6.1, but it  won't read my .bashrc
(My
> aliases in .bashrc don't work)!

Check the permissions and ownership of the file.  After making any
changes you need to re-read (source) ".bashrc", i.e. :
  . .bashrc
will do it, or logout the login.

Also, you could use Yast to create a new account to see the permissions
and ownership of its ".bashrc".

Hope this is of some utility.

--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }


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From: Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Networking Linux and Windows machines.
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 05:11:22 -0800

You need smb(samba) to connect windows to linux..I don't
know about the gateway part....I'm curious about that too...



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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't run executables (yes I use ./)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:24:17 -0400

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.setup: 16-Jul-99 Can't run
executables (yes .. by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> I use Linux with kernel version 2.0.34 and libc 5.4.44.
> I downloaded some executables, but when trying to run them I get the
> message "Command not found". Of course I put the executables in a
> directory which is in the path and ran rehash. In fact, if I run
> "which executable_name", I get the exact path to the executable.
> Copying the command to the current directory and running
> ./executable_name doesn't help. Notice that the executables have the
> right permissions set and the command "file executable_name" says that
> executable_name is an ELF 32-bit LSB executable. Everything works fine
> with executables I compiled myself.

[snip]

It's a little bit of a shot in the dark, but you'll get that exact same
error, methinks, on a libc5 system if you're trying to run a libc6
executable... are you sure it's libc5?
--
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From: scable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: logging in is very slow
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:22:10 -0500

I'm running RH6.0  Frequently (about one in four times) when I power up
my machine and log in under my personal account, getting from the little
login window to a full desktop takes a long time -- as much as five
minutes.  I give it my name and password; the window goes away leaving
only the RH logo on the screen; and then it just sits there for several
minutes before anything else comes up.  This only happens with my
personal account.  It never happens with the root account and it never
happens with a second user account I have on the machine.  Anybody know
what to do about this?

(I tried increasing my swap space, so i now have 127meg of swap and
64meg real memory, but it did no good.)

Thanks.

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From: Andy Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Web server information
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:18:17 -0400

moi wrote:

> Here's something cool :-)  heard this, just wanted to check!!
> the test addy is www.netcraft.com/whats
>
> www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 SSLeay/0.9.0b
> on FreeBSD
>
> Apache is also being used by Javasoft, Financial Times, W3 Consortium, and
> The Royal Family.
> FreeBSD users include Yahoo, The Apache Project, and MP3.com.
>

Actually, Solaris is doing the mail serving for hotmail.

Read, this, you'll like it.  :)

http://www.kirch.net/unix-nt/hotmail.html



>
> Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In alt.os.linux Peter Burden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > : Darren Paxton wrote:
> > :>
> > :> Hi, guys,
> > :>
> > :> Just a quickie, been searching the web and deja.com to try to find the
> > :> address of that site that gives information on what kind of machine a
> > :> server is running on.
> >
> > : You could try something like (at a telnet prompt near you)
> >
> > : bash$ telnet www.wlv.ac.uk 80
> > : Trying 134.220.1.9... <- output from telnet
> > : Connected to ccuf.wlv.ac.uk.            <- more output from telnet
> > : Escape character is '^]'.               <- more output from telnet
> > [snip]
> > : Connection closed by foreign host.      <- etc
> >
> > : If you type GET rather than HEAD you'll get the full HTML text and, wow,
> > : you can surf the WWW without a browser.
> >
> > An easier way (if lynx is installed) is to just type something like
> >
> > bash$ lynx -dump -head http://www.wlv.ac.uk
> >
> > And you should get the same output (with less hassle).
> >
> > You could also try http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch
> > Somewhere there is a link to test what webserver/os a site runs.
> >
> > :>
> > :> Can anyone send it to me either on news or email??
> > :>
> >
> > --
> > Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > http://home.thezone.net/~seymour

--
Andy Harrison
Time Warner Cable of Maine
Road Runner Associate Systems Administrator
ICQ: 1467660




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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rdump: connection refused
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:10:24 -0500

marika wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My rdump from RedHat 5.2 to sparc solaris2.6 fails with following
> message:
> $ /sbin/rdump 0uf home:/dev/rmt/0 /
> home: Connection refused
> TCP_MAXSEG setsockopt: Bad file descriptor
> 
> I have .rhosts and hosts.equiv on sun. What could be the problem? help!
> 
> thanks
> 
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> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

The last time I tried it, the Linux rdump did not work.
Perhaps it has been fixed, but I would not be surprised
if it weren't.  I don't remember the error messages,
but I had the same experience.  I had both .rhosts and
hosts.equiv set but had no luck, either going to a Sun
or to another Linux machine.

A couple of things to look at:  Can you do an rdump
to a disk file?   Can you track down the actual device
on the Solaris machine and try that.  It is hidden by
a complicated collection of links.  Check the permissions
on that device.  You might create a group for dumping
and do the rdump as a member of that group and change
the permissions on the device to include write permissions
for the group.  And you would have to create a special
copy of rdump which was setuid but restricted to execution
by members of the dump group.   (This all because there
may be restrictions on root running remote shells.)  But
before you go to such extremes, test to see if with unlimited
write permissions on the device, rdump works.

Remote tars on the other hand do work, although there
are still problems with permissions as above to deal with.
-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Subject: Re: What's needed for StarOffice with Slackware 4.0.0
Date: 16 Jul 1999 14:20:31 GMT

On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:42:27, Michael Lee Yohe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > I installed A, AP, D, N, K, X and XAP
> > 
> > What is A, AP, D, N, K, X, XAP?????
> 
> Slackware's god-awful, archaic package identifiers.
 
That's it???

Might be archaic but it works just fine for me.

Now, anybody want to address the question?

                      email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason T. Breitweg)
Subject: Setting up a proxy server?
Date: 16 Jul 1999 15:00:05 +0200

Hi all,

I just installed vmware on my SuSE 6.1 machine with bridge networking
enabled.  Now I want to set up a proxy server on the Linux machine so
that when I am dialed into the ISP I can use various programs within
vmware to look at stuff on the net.  Has anyone out there done this (I
am sure someone has)?  If so could you point me to a doc where it
explains how to do it?  I have tried the usual places to look up info
and I haven't had much success.  Thanks for any help people can give
me.

Jason
  
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:19:29 +0200
From: Moshe Sayag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: "system too big".. for WHAT!

the boot image mustn't be very small ( less than a 1 Mb , not sure
what's the exact limit)
the full documents can be found as part of the linux howto ( by Joshua
Go  )

http://www.linux-howto.com/LinuxGuide/linux-kernel.html

but has to be updated a little .
you must use bzImage to compile big kernels , so here is a modified part
from the howto

"
Here is a basic outline of the kernel-compilation process:

cd /usr/src/linux (just in case you're in the wrong directory)
make mrproper
make xconfig (If this doesn't work out, use make config)
make dep
make clean
make bzImage (Usually the longest part of the process)
make modules
make modules_install
cp arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.zz-new
(edit /etc/lilo.conf)
lilo
reboot (no need to do it immediately but the new kernel won't be loaded
until you reboot)
"
if it still doesn't work , try to set some component (using "make
xconfig") to "modules" , this way they will not be part of the boot
image and be loaded only when needed ,


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> First question: Is there a newsgroup devoted to kernel compilation
> problems? I dont see anything in the list.
>
> I just 'up'graded to redhat 6 & tried to recompile my kernel.
> Upon 'make boot' I wind up with
>
> System is 590 kB
> System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
> make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.5/arch/i386/boot'
> make: *** [boot] Error 2
>
> Too big for what?? I've got 64MB of RAM & gobs of hdd space.
> Most options are in modules & I've weeded out what I dont need.
> I've recompiled my kernel before with no trouble. This looks
> like an arbitrary limit. If it's too big for a floppy, I dont
> care. I use LILO. make bzImage will work but the redhat manual
> recommends make boot. I dont know the difference.
> What's the workaround for this?
> I tried the echo commands listed in the kernel howto. They
> didn't work if they were supposed to fix this.
>
> Frustrated,
> Art.


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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Static IP?
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:46:21 +0000

"Nathan D. East" wrote:
> 
> I'm looking to start up a webserver out of my apartment, and I'd like to
> find out how I could get a static IP.  I thought a cable modem would do
> the trick, but it looks like Roadrunner uses DHCP.  Any ideas?
> 
> -Nate

Generally you have to contact your isp and ask for one which will
probably be and extra cost service.

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From: "J�rgen Pfann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux+NT4+win98
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:42:48 +0200

Howdy,

Pierre Arnaud wrote:
> 
> liang wrote:
> 
> > I just got a new hardrive(13.6GB) and I want to install all
> > three OSes available to me.  Any suggestions about the
> > partition, installation order etc?
> > such as: which way is better, use PartitionMagic or fdisk
> > or fips of Linux to partition the drive?
> >
> > thanks.
> 
> One detail that is implied in Pirana Selvanandan's reply, but not stated
> clearly : NT can only boot from the NT loader in the mbr. Step 1 to 5 
No, no, no. NT boot manager can also easily and happily reside in the
_boot sector_ of a primary partition on the first HD, provided it is a
FAT16 (NOT FAT32 AFAIK) or NTFS partition _and_ the one marked active.
You then can invoke the NT boot loader via LILO (e.g other=/dev/hda1;
label=NT; table=/dev/hda).
BTW it's no problem at all for LILO to do the same trick as NT, that is
to boot an OS not off it's boot sector, but a copy thereof as disk
file (e.g. other=/dosc/bootsect.dos; label=Win98).
I admit Win9x expects its resp. system partition to be the _active_;
so (not knowing the question of this thread precisely) you seem to be
restricted to only a handful scenarios if you want to have LILO
as primary boot manager:
a.Win98 (FAT16 ;-( ) in /dev/hda1 (set active), NT and linux anywhere
(NT partition itself does neither need to be primary nor active).
b.If you insist in NT residing in the first and/or active part.,
 you can still use LILO's partition-table-rewriting feature then:
 change; partition=/dev/hda1; deactivate; partition=/dev/hda2; activate.

in
> this mail are meant to use NT loader to start Linux. Since you want
> win98 too, you'll have to use the NT loader to all three systems. Be
> very careful never to touch the mbr. It can be very tricky --sometimes
> impossible-- to recover an NT system.

I generally agree to that : NT's recovery options are _poor_; so maybe
I should have kept my mouth shut giving above advice to a newbie
(at leat to linux). But my intention is also to do a little balancing
against that standard "NT _must_ be the primary BM" statement 'cos
that _is not true_ !

Juergen

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Does Linux support 'sar'?
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:54:21 GMT

Is there a 'sar' like program on Linux?
'sar' is System Activity Report
It gets system information such as
swap, memory, paging, queues, cpu usage, etc.

Thanks,


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monte Phillips)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Please help urgent win98 network printer set up with Rh6
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:12:06 GMT

I use my '98 printer in Linux, it is run via SAMBA.
This site has a step by step howto for complete setup of samba.  
http://www.sfu.ca/~yzhang/linux/samba/index.html
and this one as well
http://home.talkcity.com/MigrationPath/maguai/samba.html

bono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I really need to connect to the network printer on win98 peer on the
>network.  It was a simple HPInkjet 4/5/6 series and it was working as a
>local printer before.  I tried to connect to another similar model on
>the same network that under another linux server and that one works;
>however the one on the win98 can print much more in a much faster
>speed...not to mention the other one is about a quarter mile away from
>me  (at least feels like it)  I can't swap the printers because none of
>them belong to me.  If anyone out there is successful in setting up
>network printer on a win98 machine please give me more detail and hints.


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