Linux-Misc Digest #52, Volume #28 Thu, 7 Jun 01 13:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: SunRay (Stephen Rank)
Can't setup printer (Bill)
Re: IDE cdrw ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
HP Pavilion and RH 7.0 - sound card / modem problem (marek)
Re: Compiling QT - doesnt accept custom include directory ("Peter T. Breuer")
Block move error 0xAE in LILO (Chris Boyle)
newly exposed to linux server with 98 clients (scot key)
Re: The bare minumum. (Tom Roberts)
Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor for linux (del_bert)
Re: Kwrite for Gnome? ("steve")
Re: HP Pavilion and RH 7.0 - sound card / modem problem (SwifT)
Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments? (Bob Hauck)
Re: newly exposed to linux server with 98 clients ("Peter T. Breuer")
Problem with biff sourcing mail file for header information (Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.)
Re: rc.local file. (Markku Kolkka)
Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments? (Steve)
SOLUTION: BackSpace, Delete, Vim and Linux <--> Solaris connections (Kevin)
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From: Stephen Rank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SunRay
Date: 07 Jun 2001 15:05:03 +0100
Fabio Oliveira Della Santina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anybody knows if exists any tecnologie like SunRay for PC Machines
> running Linux?
I'm not entirely familiar with Sun's latest stuff, so forgive me if
I'm labouring under false assumptions.
If a SunRay is a v thin client, then you can accomplish something very
similar by starting X like:
X -query somehost
where somehost provides the relevant listener. Here in Durham,
somehost is a Sun box of some sort, and the above command starts X
on the local machine as a thin client for somehost.
HTH,
Stephen
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From: Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't setup printer
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:27:52 GMT
I am running Rh 7.0 kernel 2.4.3.
Through printtool I try to add a printer (Epson Stylus Color 640).
Auto-detection is not able to detect any /dev/lp* device. Also, when I
boot lpd returns the error message
Warning: - lp: lp device not absolute pathname 'lp0'
- What is causing these error messages and how do I fix the problem.
I was previously running Rh 7.0 with kernel 2.2.16-22 and was able to
print (using the same printer) without any problems. I know kernel 2.4
uses parport. Could my problem be that some utilities (like checkpc -
which is where the Warning message comes from) needs to be upgraded so
they are in sync with the 2.4 kernel? If so, what needs to be upgraded
and what steps should I take for this upgrade.
Thanks for the help,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IDE cdrw
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:11:30 +0100
Reply-To: no_replyto@oursite
This message has been posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Ewart)
>> Im a bit of a newbie, any pointer on how to load a module / how to
>> find a scsi emulation module as well?
>
>Modules HOWTO.
>
>There's nothing to search for .. it's there. You want something like
>ide-scsi.
Actually, reading the CD-Writing HOWTO on http://www.linuxdoc.org/ will
probably be more useful to you ... it will explain the whole process.
Dave.
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From: marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: HP Pavilion and RH 7.0 - sound card / modem problem
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:35:11 -0400
Hi everybody,
I have HP Pavilion 97xx with famous Riptide sound card and Rockwell
HSF/Conexant Soft56k modem (two separate devies - it is NOT the combo
version).
I am running RH 7.0 with 2.2.16 kernel, and am a beginner.
Does anybody here got them both to work?
For the modem:
(yes, I realize it is WinModem, but there are special drivers for it)
I tried to install the driver by Imran Ghory from
http://www.cyberspace.org/~imran/hsflinux.htm, but ins_all script gives
me the error "cannot find apropriate .inf file", although the file is in
the same directory.
For the sound-card:
Tried to use sb module - no luck. I care much more about the modem, but
it could be nice to have sound card working, too.
Thank you very much for any help. I really need it...
-marek
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling QT - doesnt accept custom include directory
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:37:29 +0200
Anton Suchaneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
> I need to install QT in the home directory (non root). I downloaded
> qt-2.2.4 from ftp.troll.no and configured with
> ./configure -I/usr/src/linux/include
This is not a valid configure option. Try configure --help !
> But it still cannot find the headers there (errno.h, limits.h). Why does it
Where?
> ignore my argument? Thanks for help.
Your argument is meaningless. It might be better if it told you instead
of ignoring it!
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Boyle)
Subject: Block move error 0xAE in LILO
Date: 7 Jun 2001 07:51:40 -0700
I just installed Red Hat Linux for the first time on my Compaq
Presario 7470. The install went fine but when I tried to start linux I
get an error message that says "Block move error 0xAE" and then the
boot promt comes up again. Someone told me this may be some sort of
cinlander problem, I don't rember all the tech stuff, and should move
my /boot mount. I would but it at the beganing at the drive but I
don't know how. I am knew to linux and don't know much so I will need
babby steps. My ICQ number is 117060833 if that would be a better way
to contact me.
Thanks,
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (scot key)
Subject: newly exposed to linux server with 98 clients
Date: 7 Jun 2001 08:02:49 -0700
Hi: I'm a school tech coordinator who just changed schools from a
nice, tidy, boring NT 4.0 network with 98 clients to a linux server
with 98 clients. I have many questions, but my first one is available
educational software for linux. For example, we want a typing program
with network admin/database capability. I see "runtime revolution"
has a ten thumbs product for linux..but does it include a win98 client
usability?
I have thousands of other questions, but will stick to this now...with
the wider question of general educational Linux network software
hovering over all.
Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions most appreciated...
Scot Key
Amy Biehl Charter School
ABQ, NM USA
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From: Tom Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The bare minumum.
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 09:58:13 -0500
Joel wrote:
> Hi. What is the bare minumum of software needed for linux to boot to bash.
Look into the embedded Linux stuff. I have booted to a shell prompt from
within a 4-MByte ramdisk. Basically all you need for that is the kernel itself
(which is not in the initrd ramdisk, of course), whatever kernel modules you
need, whatever libraries your shell needs (libc and friends), and your shell
(linked to /sbin/init in the initrd ramdisk). For this, bash is a particularly
poor choice, as it can do almost nothing by itself. The stand-alone shell
"sash" is a MUCH better choice, as it includes things like ls, pwd, ps, (etc.)
compiled in as internal commands. There are other similar shells as well....
There is a HOWTO on using an initrd ramdisk.
If you have a network, another possibility is to mount the root filesystem via
NFS (include an initrd ramdisk if you need kernel modules before mounting /).
This can be done in something like 1 MByte of flash memory (or a single floppy).
IIRC the linux router project is a Linux system complete enough to act as an
IP router/gateway, and it fits on a single 1.44 MByte floppy.
Tom Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (del_bert)
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor for linux
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:50:06 -0400
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:49:38 -0700, Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "del_bert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> On 6 Jun 2001 11:23:13 GMT, Rainer Krienke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
>> > There is at least one commercial good graphical html editor for linux.
>> > Its hpbuilder from IBM.
>
>> I thought one had to run it in wine.
>
> I think it installs its own WINE in a way that's not even visible to the
> user. It installs and runs just like a native app, like a lot of Java apps
> that install their own JVM.
>
>> Use Amaya, done by the w3 consortium. It should meet the standards and
>> it's free.
>
> We all love to think all Linux programs are wonderful, but...
>
> Matt O.
Well I'm not quite sure what you're saying. The title of this thread
`WYSIWYG HTML Editor for *linux*', now I agree that there is no wysiwyg
for html. However the poster wants specifically a Linux app and the IBM
offering is neither Linux nor is it free. Now if one is going to ask for
gui html editors period, the only ones to consider for any platform are
Macromedia's DreamWeaver UltraDev or Adobe's GoLive. None of the others
mentioned or not mentioned even come close to the ability of these two.
Hovever these two aren't cheap either.
However if ones wants a freeware gui editor for Linux, Amaya is good and
more importantly it follows the standards as it's developed by the good
folks at w3 - who make those standards.
--
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Reply-To: "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Kwrite for Gnome?
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:19:41 -0700
Thank you Dave for illuminating something I had wondered about.
"Dave Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> >LRW wrote:
> >
> >> I LOVE KDE's kwrite as a super-notepad; but I can't quite find
something
> >> like that in Gnome's applications. What I mean is, kwrite allows you to
> >> change color tagging depending on what style you want--HTML, Pearl, C,
> >> etc, and I LOVE that. But I can't find that feature in either of
Gnome's
> >> native word editers.
> >>...
> >In case you didn't quite get this from the other posts, you can run
Kwrite
> >in GNOME.
> >
> >I have Gno-RPM and Gedit running quite well in KDE.
> >...
> >
> >> Oh, BTW, what are people's opinions between KDE and Gnome? Just
> >> wondering. =)
> >
> >Haven't tried the newest version. Had problems with it when I installed
> >Red Hat 6.1 so have always been a KDE user.
>
> There seems to be some erroneous impressions floating about. "Gnome" is
> a group of shared libraries, gtk being the principle one. "KDE" is a
group
> of shared libraries, qt being the principle one. Gnome applications
> don't run "in" KDE. KDE apps don't run "in" Gnome. If you have both
> shared libraries installed, you can run either Gnome apps or KDE apps.
> The presence of one library does not prevent access to the other library.
> Shared libraries provide functions to applications which dynamically link
> to those functions at runtime.
>
> "Desktops" are combinations of applications, the "governing" app being the
> window-manager, and "applets" which usually require code in a
window-manager
> to be started, as they are not complete standalone applications of
themselves.
> Perhaps when one says "running a gnome app in KDE", they are saying "I use
> the KDE window-manager, and I can still run a gnome app." But, of course,
> given the one has the Gnome library available. Kinda like saying, "I use
> the KDE desktop, but can still run Netscape (which uses the Motif library,
> but was statically linked, so you don't need Motif separately installed).
>
> Incidentally, with regard to "which is more stable", this would certainly
> depend on which portions of the shared library were being invoked by which
> applications. Improvements have occurred in the libraries over the past
year
> or two, so anything other than recent past experience is probably not
relevant.
>
> (I was recently working with RH 7.1 on machines with a particular built-in
> graphics adapter, and I could crash the Xserver by certain mouse
operations
> using the KDE desktop, but the Gnome desktop did not show the same
behavior.)
>
> --
> Dave Brown Austin, TX
>
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
From: SwifT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP Pavilion and RH 7.0 - sound card / modem problem
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:24:33 GMT
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, marek wrote:
> For the modem:
> (yes, I realize it is WinModem, but there are special drivers for it)
> I tried to install the driver by Imran Ghory from
> http://www.cyberspace.org/~imran/hsflinux.htm, but ins_all script gives
> me the error "cannot find apropriate .inf file", although the file is in
> the same directory.
Maybe you ought to set the PATH-environment so it also contains
the directory in which the file is located?
It can also be that the ins_all-script requires an option like
"--inf=./yourfile.inf". Since I don't know what ins_all does/can,
maybe you can post the output of "ins_all --help"?
> For the sound-card:
> Tried to use sb module - no luck. I care much more about the modem, but
> it could be nice to have sound card working, too.
Try sndconfig. It's a tool which will help you find a working
module.
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LUG: http://www.lugwv.be - http://www.keyserver.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments?
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 16:00:01 GMT
On 6 Jun 2001 17:05:45 -0400, kj0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I rarely need to send attachments with my e-mail, and when I do I just
> use the attachment feature in my mail reader (Pine). I just learned,
> however, that MS Windows mail readers (or at least some of them)
> receive the attachment as "gibberish" appended at the end of the
> e-mail's text, instead of appearing as a clickable link to bring it
> up in MS Word.
What readers? I use Pine and regularly send/receive attachments
to/from people using MS Outlook on an Exchange server. Both directions
work fine here.
Sounds like whatever reader they are using does not understand MIME
attachments. If that's the case, maybe you could UUENCODE the file and
then send it in the body of your mail.
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-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newly exposed to linux server with 98 clients
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:50:52 +0200
scot key <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> educational software for linux. For example, we want a typing program
What's a "typing program?"?
> with network admin/database capability. I see "runtime revolution"
???
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.)
Subject: Problem with biff sourcing mail file for header information
Date: 7 Jun 2001 16:33:06 GMT
Hi Folks!
First, _many_ apologies for posting this separately to comp.os.linux.misc,
and c.o.l.setup - I accidentally forgot to include both in my post as a
cross-post, and can't cancel the first, so hence the separate duplicate
posts - I know that it's tres uncool. :-( Also, please accept my apologies
if this is not the right newsgroup in which to post this question;
*please* feel free to tell me if there is a more appropriate newsgroup.
We've had a problem getting both biff and newmail to run correctly -
specifically the problem is that while we can get them to run, they weren't
including the relevant information such as the sender and subject lines.
All they were saying was "New mail for <userid>".
The only way that I've been able to "fix" it, and make it include the
header and other information in writes to the terminal are to set the
mailbox file to 715, which of course makes it world readable, which isn't
such a good thing for email. :-) (I've tried every possible combination of
permission settings on the file, and it *only* works with it being world
readable.)
I'm _guessing_ that maybe there is a way to give the biff program
"privileges", rather than making the mail files world readable - but darned
if I can figure out what it is (I'm _not_, by any stretch, a system admin
type - and this is all new to me).
If anybody has any ideas or suggestions, I'd be very grateful.
Thanks!
Anne
http://www.intuitiveparenting.org
Resources on intuitive parenting, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, and
more
I am: Mom, Attorney, Professor, Advocate for Fathers and Against
Spam
http://www.annepmitchell.com
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: rc.local file.
Date: 07 Jun 2001 19:48:46 +0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) writes:
> >Services are started at boot by scripts in the /etc/rc.d/init.d
> >directory and symlinks to those scripts in /etc/rc.d/rc[0-6].d
>
> Not on all systems. This is a SysV'ism that only _some_ Linux distros
> have adopted.
The question was specifically about Red Hat 7.0, and the answers apply
to that distribution.
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Markku Kolkka
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments?
Date: 7 Jun 2001 17:04:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sounds like your recipients have their mail client set up
to read attachments inline. I use mutt to send attachments
all the time to Win users and there's never a problem.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.editors,alt.os.mandrake.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SOLUTION: BackSpace, Delete, Vim and Linux <--> Solaris connections
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:08:43 GMT
The solution is: add this to the ~/.Xdefaults and/or ~/.Xresources
on the Linux system:
XTerm*backspacekey: ^?
Rxvt*backspacekey: ^H
Many thanks to Eddie Anzalone, who had the same problem, for
finding a workable fix.
The problem was:
I use a Solaris 2.8 Ultra 10 at work and a Linux 2.2.19 Pentium
at home. I routinely run xterms on the local machine that's
logged in to the remote machine -- at any given time the machine
defined as local could be either, and the remote one would be
the other. It's important if the backspace and delete keys
behave the same way on the Solaris and Linux machines regardless
of which one is local or remote. Up through when I was running
Redhat 5.2 I never had to think about this, since everything
worked fine. Then I upgraded to Mandrake 7.02 and Vim has never
been the same since. On both machines the backspace and delete
keys work locally for all applications, including Vim. On both
machines the backspace and delete keys are swapped in Vim when
running remotely, but only when running vim, gvim is fine.
Remote shells behave just fine as do other remote app's.
Initial undesired behavior is that in remote Vim sessions the
backspace key deletes the character under the cursor, instead of
the character preceding the cursor, and the delete key deletes
the character preceding the cursor, instead of the character
under the cursor.
The Vim help files suggested adding ":fixdel" to my ~/.vimrc so
I did this on both machines. This renders acceptable behavior
on the Solaris machine. That is the local Solaris behavior and
remote Linux behavior are fine like this. The Linux machine is
terrible like this. The local Linux behavior has the backspace
and delete key affects swapped in Vim (again gvim is fine). The
remote Solaris behavior is that neither the backspace nor delete
keys work, but ^H works alright.
Below the lines of "====" is some configuration information for
each machine when running locally and remotely. One observation
I have is that editing the /etc/sysconfig/keyboard file changing
"BACKSPACE=Delete" to "BACKSPACE=BackSpace" has no effect.
Another observation I have is that the Linux local backspace key
sends ^?, the local stty erase character is set to ^H and yet
backspacing still works. This seems odd to me.
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opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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