Linux-Misc Digest #52, Volume #25 Wed, 5 Jul 00 23:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Mouse control under Xfree 4.0 vs 3.3.5 (Jason Bond)
Re: Why is my harddisk so slow? (Clifford Pennock)
how to modify gnome-terminal settings (John D Prokopek)
Re: Rebuilding rpm database ("Lonni J. Friedman")
Re: Help, I think. I broke pppd or ttyS0: (Dances With Crows)
Re: SSH on RedHat6.2 (Dances With Crows)
Re: Name Query "jabbering" (Jim Huddle)
Re: Name Query "jabbering" (Jim Huddle)
Re: new to linux (Leonard Evens)
Re: getting tapedrive working (Georgia Jensen)
Re: FTP as root, how to? (Doug O'Leary)
Re: i need a adduser script (Doug O'Leary)
Scandisk (Paul Eisenberg)
Re: Shell Script (Doug O'Leary)
files I don't understand ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why is my harddisk so slow? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. ("Brian")
Re: files I don't understand (Alex)
Re: Netscape news ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: Does the Korn shell run on Redhat ? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: route and dial up problems ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
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From: Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mouse control under Xfree 4.0 vs 3.3.5
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:18:38 -0700
I was wondering if mouse control has changed from Xfree 3.3.5 to 4.0.
Basically, I really don't like the way 3.3.5 allowed for mouse
momement control. The threshold and acceleration options
make mouse control "jumpy", not smooth as is under windows. Believe
it or not, this very simple thing is one of the significant barriers
that keeps me booting to windows frequently (which has a MUCH better
and smoother method of controlling the mouse). I've tried virtually all
combinations of threshold and acceleration and have found none
acceptable (or comparable to windows mouse control). Please tell me it
has been improved for 4.0, please!
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From: Clifford Pennock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why is my harddisk so slow?
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:19:22 +0200
Colin Smith wrote:
>
> On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 02:16:48 GMT, Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:32:16 +0100, Colin Smith
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>On Sun, 02 Jul 2000 12:12:16 +0200, Cliff Pennock
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>I've posted this on other newsgroups before, but nobody seems to be
> >>>able to answer my question so I'll try in this newsgroup too...
> >>>
> >>>Enabled SiS5513 support in the kernel, including CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO
> >>>(yes, and even recompiled and installed the new kernel :) ).
> >>>
> >>>hdparm -t /dev/hda gives me on average 8Mb/s (slow!)
> >>
> >>This is fairly normal for a 7.2krpm drive.
> >
> >You seem to be saying 7200RPM drives are slow??? Or that this is
> >average?
>
>
> 8-10mb/s read on a 7200RPM drive is fairly normal.
>
> >
> > Maxtor 7200 ATA/66:
> >
> >[root@feenix /tmp]# hdparm -t /dev/hdc
> >/dev/hdc:
> > Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 4.64 seconds = 13.79 MB/sec
>
> You may want to run the test a couple of times *and* include the -T option.
>
> e.g.
>
> The following results running the test 3 times:
> [root@yelm /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hda
>
> /dev/hda:
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 6.07 seconds = 2.64 MB/sec
> [root@yelm /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hda
>
> /dev/hda:
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 0.63 seconds =25.40 MB/sec
> [root@yelm /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hda
>
> /dev/hda:
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 0.63 seconds =25.40 MB/sec
>
> Now with -T:
>
> [root@yelm /root]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
>
> /dev/hda:
> Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 1.29 seconds =24.81 MB/sec
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 5.86 seconds = 2.73 MB/sec
> [root@yelm /root]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
>
> /dev/hda:
> Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 1.29 seconds =24.81 MB/sec
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 5.86 seconds = 2.73 MB/sec
> [root@yelm /root]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
>
> /dev/hda:
> Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 1.28 seconds =25.00 MB/sec
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 5.91 seconds = 2.71 MB/sec
>
> The actual drive speed is about 2.7Mb/s in this case but hdparm
> reported 25Mb/s on the 2nd run of the 1st set of tests.
> (It's an old 4Gb 5400rpm Quantum Fireball.)
I don't want to alarm you, but there's *really* something wrong with
your machine too... My old P166 with a 6 year old 2Gb HDD gets *much*
better results than that. Those buffer-cache reads you quote are equal
to those of a P75...
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From: John D Prokopek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to modify gnome-terminal settings
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 20:25:27 -0400
everytime I first open a gnome-terminal during a session I have to
manually change the color settings. How can I have the settings saved?
Is there a file I can edit?
I am running RH6.2
thanks for the help
--
John D. Prokopek
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The bus came by
and I got on
thats when it all began ...."
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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rebuilding rpm database
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 20:10:20 -0400
Praedor Tempus wrote:
>
> OK, in trying to fix a major problem I have been having with
> rpm on my Mandrake 7.1 system, I have lost the packages.rpm
> database file that lists all the packages installed on my
> system.
>
> Is there a method for regenerating packages.rpm? I have
> tried "rpm --rebuilddb" but this doesn't work. It sits
> there for a while, APPARENTLY doing something, but in the
> end, no database is generated/regenerated.
How long is "a while"? I've seen rpm DB rebuilds take upwards of 10
minutes on large systems.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Help, I think. I broke pppd or ttyS0:
Date: 05 Jul 2000 20:41:35 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 05 Jul 2000 18:12:45 EDT, Dale Hall
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>first time linux has done that to me on this machine. However, when I
>brought the machine back up, and attempted to run pppd, it gave me an
>error message something like "Unable to open /dev/ttyS0: Permission
>denied". I do have the suid bit set for pppd, and when I did ls -l for
>/dev/ttyS0:, I found the pattern crwS********* (I've forgotten what the
# rm /dev/ttyS0
# mknod -m 660 /dev/ttyS0 c 4 64
# chown root.uucp /dev/ttyS0
...if something is br0ken in /dev/ttyS0, this will put it back to its
original state, which should help. Never seen this happen before,
though. Good luck....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: SSH on RedHat6.2
Date: 05 Jul 2000 20:44:59 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 22:09:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<8k0bmn$snl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>
>I'm trying to install SSH utility on redhat6.2. But when I ssh to remote
>host I get an invalid protocol error or something like that. Can anybody
>tell me what is the problem with it and where can I find the one that
>works well on my system. Thanks a lot!
Got the same error using ssh 2.x and trying to connect to a SOlaris box
running ssh 1.x. I "fixed" this by using the 1.x version of ssh, but I
think there's an option you can pass to ssh2 that will make it act like
ssh 1.x. Read the man page for ssh and see if you can figure it out; good
luck.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Huddle)
Subject: Re: Name Query "jabbering"
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 00:54:51 GMT
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 00:17:36 GMT, Akira Yamanita
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jim Huddle wrote:
>>
>> Caldera 2.3 installed on a Toshiba Satellite T2130CS and connected to
>> a mixed Netware 4.x-5.x and NT 4.0 network. 10BaseT, unswitched, all
>> around. Using a Linksys ECT2 pcmcia Ethernet card.
>>
>> After the Toshiba has been on the LAN for 5-10 minutes, any netbios
>> name query will set it off performing the same query over and over.
>> One of the Netware boxes and the PDC pick this up and we have a fine
>> mess.
>
>Do you have Linux with Samba on the Toshiba? I don't really see
>how this relates to Linux. If it is relevant to this newsgroup,
>post what version of Samba you're running, the client packages,
>if you're running some front-end like LinNeighborhood, etc.
Sorry, is this a Samba newsgroup? My reader shows it as
comp.os.linux.misc.
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Huddle)
Subject: Re: Name Query "jabbering"
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 00:58:05 GMT
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 00:17:36 GMT, Akira Yamanita
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jim Huddle wrote:
>>
>> Caldera 2.3 installed on a Toshiba Satellite T2130CS and connected to
>> a mixed Netware 4.x-5.x and NT 4.0 network. 10BaseT, unswitched, all
>> around. Using a Linksys ECT2 pcmcia Ethernet card.
>>
>> After the Toshiba has been on the LAN for 5-10 minutes, any netbios
>> name query will set it off performing the same query over and over.
>> One of the Netware boxes and the PDC pick this up and we have a fine
>> mess.
>Do you have Linux with Samba on the Toshiba? I don't really see
>how this relates to Linux. If it is relevant to this newsgroup,
>post what version of Samba you're running, the client packages,
>if you're running some front-end like LinNeighborhood, etc.
That's the strange part, no Samba running. I don't need the Samba so
didn't put it in. I'm just setting up a portable I can use to
troubleshoot my organizations network.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: new to linux
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:46:13 -0500
sylvain hutchison wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm fairly new to linux, and I was wondering if could change something
> in the source code itself, but I don't know where to find it??
> Can anybody tell where to find it so that I can check it out!!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sly.
The complete source code is usually provided as part of the
distribution. It may be on a separate CD. The source code
for the kernel is usually in /usr/src/linux if it was
installed.
However, you should realize that each Linux program makes
assumptions about the programming environment. So making
a change in a program and then compiling it could involve
quite a lot of work, even for a fairly simple program. Since
Linux is in fact developed by independent programmers who
are part of the Linux community, it is not impossible to do
it, but it is not something you could expect to do in a day
or two.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Georgia Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: getting tapedrive working
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 20:16:01 -0500
Martijn Brouwer wrote:
> What do I need to get my QIC80 tape drive working.
> I have a 2.2.14 kernel with the ftape module. I can insmod the ftape
> module, but when I try to do something very simple with tar (tar test
> /dev/nrft0 or something like that) or even mt, it complains that the
> operation is not possible with this device. So what do I need to do?
>
> thanks,
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Martijn Brouwer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Remove the capital letters S P A M from my adress
Way down in the ftape Howto I found a FAQ that said you also have to
insmod zftape, now mine will access the
tape drive but says it not formatted, even for an erase. Anyway read the
HOWTO on ftape maybe you can figure it out.
Tom Jensen
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From: Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP as root, how to?
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:29:00 -0700
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I'm setting up the new machine and want to move stuff off the
> old machine. I have them networked. I can FTP to and from
> in my personal accounts. I can't move things from one root
> account to the other. I agree this makes security sense but
> what can I do to enable this for a day or so until I get the
> new machine set up?
*Temporarily* remove root from the /etc/ftpusers file. *Remember* to put
it back in when you're finished moving things hither and yon.
Doug
--
===================
Douglas K. O'Leary
Senior System Admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: i need a adduser script
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:32:40 -0700
[This followup was posted to comp.os.linux.misc and a copy was sent to
the cited author.]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> Hello i am running a server red hat 6.1, i host websites, shell account,
> muds, ircd that kinnda stuff i have doing it now for about 2 months and i
> am board of adding the user accounts my self know what i mean. I would like
> to know where i can get an adduser script i have been to
What's wrong with /usr/sbin/useradd? In case you missed that one,
there's also /usr/sbin/adduser (soft linked to useradd)...
Doug
--
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Douglas K. O'Leary
Senior System Admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Eisenberg)
Subject: Scandisk
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 01:27:43 GMT
Hey everyone, I am running without problems Corel Linux and I wanted
to use scandisk and disk defrag with my windows partition but the
problem is it gives me errors concerning the master boot record and
such. Is there anyway I can still run these programs and keep from
making any major changes? Thanks! Paul
P.S My Dad has the Nortan pack which also has a disk defrag/scandisk
type of utility, would this work?
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From: Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shell Script
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:37:17 -0700
In article <8jrmu7$l6k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I'm trying to do the following:
>
> I've got a file with systems listed down a column. I want to perform
> an action for each system, one after another. For example, with
> the following file contents:
>
> system1;miscdata
> system2;miscdata
> system3;miscdata
> system4;miscdata
>
> I want to use the system in each line to perform a number of functions,
> then move to the next system. I've done this before, I think using a
> combination of cuts and a while, but can't remember how.
>
for sys in $(awk -F\; '{print $1}' ${In_file} )
do
... commands for ${sys}
done
--
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Douglas K. O'Leary
Senior System Admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: files I don't understand
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:01:03 GMT
I'm using 'bash.' Every time I make a new file with 'emacs' a second
file appears with the same name, only with an extra character on the
end... '~' What are these files for, and why do they keep appearing?
EX: I make something called 'work' using emacs, and something pops up
called 'work~' after I'm done. Any clues?
-Dave L.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Why is my harddisk so slow?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:17:10 GMT
On Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:59:45 +0100, Colin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 02:16:48 GMT, Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>You may want to run the test a couple of times *and* include the -T option.
>
>e.g.
>
>The following results running the test 3 times:
>[root@yelm /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hda
>
>/dev/hda:
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 6.07 seconds = 2.64 MB/sec
>[root@yelm /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hda
>
>/dev/hda:
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 0.63 seconds =25.40 MB/sec
>[root@yelm /root]# hdparm -t /dev/hda
>
>/dev/hda:
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 0.63 seconds =25.40 MB/sec
>
[root@feenix /tmp]# hdparm -t /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 5.05 seconds = 12.67 MB/sec
(swap got maxed out here....don't know if that is why the times nosed
dived)
[root@feenix /tmp]# hdparm -t /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 10.91 seconds = 5.87 MB/sec
[root@feenix /tmp]# hdparm -t /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 9.91 seconds = 6.46 MB/sec
>
>Now with -T:
>
>[root@yelm /root]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
>
>/dev/hda:
> Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 1.29 seconds =24.81 MB/sec
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 5.86 seconds = 2.73 MB/sec
>[root@yelm /root]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
>
>/dev/hda:
> Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 1.29 seconds =24.81 MB/sec
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 5.86 seconds = 2.73 MB/sec
>[root@yelm /root]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
>
>/dev/hda:
> Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 1.28 seconds =25.00 MB/sec
> Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 5.91 seconds = 2.71 MB/sec
>
>The actual drive speed is about 2.7Mb/s in this case but hdparm
>reported 25Mb/s on the 2nd run of the 1st set of tests.
>(It's an old 4Gb 5400rpm Quantum Fireball.)
[root@feenix /tmp]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.61 seconds = 79.50 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 4.65 seconds = 13.76 MB/sec
[root@feenix /tmp]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.64 seconds = 78.05 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 4.79 seconds = 13.36 MB/sec
This is slow for a 7200RPM drive with DMA turned on. I've seen many
getting 20+MB. But I don't think hdparm is doing justice to this Maxtor.
It is definitely the fastest drive I have, but not according to hdparm.
This is my main point. I think bonnie does better benchmarking.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.turbolinux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:17:22 GMT
<clipped for brevity>
Alex wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>You really think so? I have used M$ Windoz for over six years. I have done
>Windoz installation so many times. I find myself having a lot of trouble
>installing Windoz 98. On the other hand, I only use Linux (Red Hat) for 2
years
>(Starting with Version 5.2).
I have been installing and configuring Windows since it was called IBM DOS!
Sometimes the magic works but more often than not there are many problems.
One of the biggest problems when installing W98 is the horrendous upgrades
that must be installed by downloading from MS (hours and hours by POTS
modem), endless reboots, installation of MS applications and then of course
the upgrades, more hours and more reboots. GAWD!
When it is all installed, updated drivers to be installed & upgraded and
setup (perhaps 6 hours), the installation has a fixed life determined by
use. I have determined that some of the problems can be traced to the
fragile DOS/Windows filesystem but the entire system design is immature and
subject to failure.
Average life of the W98 installation is 8 months but can be extended to as
much as a year with careful system administration.
Don't even get me started on the litany of errors associated with Internet
Explorer and Outlook Express - I can't count how often hundreds of megabytes
of messages disappear never to be found again - backup is encouraged for
Linux users but is totally necessary for Windows users.
>Here is my comparison
>Installing Windoz: 2 hours + job. Video card is not working right (ATI All
in
>wonder 128), SCSI scanner (UMAX) is not working right either. Right now.
Windoz
>hang right after boot up (sometime). Gee, it's only been about a week after
the
>FRESH installation. Slow... Poor performance comparing to Linux. If you
really
>want to know the detail spec of my machine you can find them here. I really
>don't even want to bother with M$ Windoz anymore....
>http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~chu/hardware.html
I checked out your website especially those parts relating to Linux - very
nice.
>Installing Linux: 50-60 minutes job (maybe less). USABLE OS after the fresh
>installation. I did a full installation. GIMP, Netscape, and a lot of
goodies.
>I don't think you can telnet and ftp to your Windoz 95, 98 0r 98 SE box
right
>after installation without adding software (they cost you extra money too).
It
>provides much better security too. Oh, video card and scanner work
beautifully.
>Unlike some slicker product.
Agreed. I regularly burn custom CDs under Linux with an almost 100% success
rate whereas I have stopped trying to burn under W98 cause I just don't need
anymore coasters.
>I don't think I am that good at Linux and I keep reading NG, doc and all
that.
>I also heard people saying "I don't like Linux because it's nothing like
>Windoz!" For god sake, it is not suppose to be like Windoz... And thanks
god it
>is not. I am a very lucky person because I don't need to use Windoz at all.
I
>use Linux and SGI at work, Solaris at school, and Linux at home.
I run W98 for games, casual browsing and mail/news but all my serious work
is done in Linux. I have lost too many hours of work when Windows
freezes/locks/blows-a-gasket that it just isn't worth the aggravation. Even
as it is now, I still lose whatever is on my desktop; notes, email in
progress, web addresses etc.
>You might ask, "Why did you install Windoz?" My answer is, " I am a CIS
major
>student, I think it's still a good idea to know it although it is a very
bad
>product. Besides, I have four HDs... I can waste one on Windoz." But, I
don't
>really use it at all. I did not even bother to install MS Office.
I run Linux, W98, Mac OS, SUN OS at home; I prefer Linux!
>It's just my ignorant opinion.
Pretty good informed opinion.
Just one final thought; If a person is trying to install Linux for the first
time they should carefully consider what they are doing. It is even easier
to destroy a residing Windows installation during a Windows upgrade "95-98"
(have done dozens so I know). If a new user tries to install Linux without
reading and understanding the basics of what they are doing, Caveat Emptor!
The Linux installation process is not for everybody. My 10 year old daughter
can do it but her mother can't (her mother can't install W98 either).
Perhaps people would be more satisfied with their computers if they came
with Linux, X windows, KDE and KDE Office pre-installed instead of Windows.
Just one guy's opinion.
Brian
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: files I don't understand
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 22:27:47 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm using 'bash.' Every time I make a new file with 'emacs' a second
> file appears with the same name, only with an extra character on the
> end... '~' What are these files for, and why do they keep appearing?
> EX: I make something called 'work' using emacs, and something pops up
> called 'work~' after I'm done. Any clues?
I am no 100% sure, but I think they are kinda like backup or autosave.
You can delete them without any problem.
Alex.
>
> -Dave L.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape news
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:43:32 -0500
On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Mike Frisch quoth:
[] On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 18:31:02 GMT, Ronald Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[] > I've tried (oh how I've tried!) to read news with Netscape 4.73, but the
[] >newsgroups I select seem to disappear in between sessions.
[] > Am I doing something wrong or is this a Godzilla-sized bug in the
[] >program?
[]
[] Nope, news reading works fine with Netscape Messenger. You must be doing
[] something wrong. When you select a newsgroup, are you actually
[] subscribing to it or just displaying it? What shows in the newsgroup
[] tree?
Not necessarily. I have seen the same behaviour before, through no
fault of my own ( afterall I am limited by the interface ). I suggest
blowing away all news configuration and starting over, that is how
I 'cured' it. We do sadly need another browser in the Linux community,
or at least Netscape needs a major overhaul. I hope that that the final
release for Netscape 6 is better than the preview.
anm
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does the Korn shell run on Redhat ?
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:46:08 -0500
On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Yamar quoth:
[] trying to run a script on RedHat 6.1 it seems that it is a Korn shell
[] script. Does RedHat Linux support this ? Does any flavor of Linux run
[] Korn ? ? Thanks in adv. Yamar
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I would be inclined to say yes.
Check out pdksh ( Public Domain Korn Shell ).
anm
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: route and dial up problems
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:59:33 -0500
On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Darren quoth:
[] I have been working on a problem with dial up on Mandrake 7.1. After
[] reading from various sources, it seems as though I am having a routing
[] problem. I can connect to my ISP, but I can not do anything once connected
[] (no pinging, telneting or viewing web pages). I do not experience this on
[] my local network.
[]
[] I checked (#route -n.) Finding gateways with the 0.0.0.0, I figured this
[] was bad, so I gave (#route del default) a try. But, (#route del default)
[] doesn't seem to have any affect. Note the results of (#route del default)
[] below.
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Are using the defaultroute option with pppd?
man pppd
/defaultroute
0.0.0.0 is the default route, which according to your posted
'netstat -rn' output, you are lacking. You should see something
like the following if your default route is set:
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
anm
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