Linux-Misc Digest #63, Volume #21                Sat, 17 Jul 99 18:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: CIA assassinations ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
  Change Star Office icon on Desktop (Ken Williams)
  Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem ("Neil Koozer")
  dialup changing hostname (Nathan Ryan)
  Re: SVGAText (Bill Cleaver)
  Re: Can't run executables (yes I use ./) (Juergen Heinzl)
  Slackware problem... (Unigni)
  Re: Slackware problem... (Unigni)
  Re: Legator Networker:  Installation problem, libncurses.so.3.0 (Frederic L. W. 
Meunier)
  Re: Slackware problem... (Andrei A. Dergatchev)
  Re: Shortcomings of Linux? ("William B. Cattell")
  Borken Link In SuSE kde base package! ("Youngert")
  Re: GTK update hassle (Larry Ozarow)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: How to disable direct login in front of Monitor? (John McKown)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Holy Cow)
  Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux? (Holy Cow)
  Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem (Holy Cow)
  Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux? (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
  Re: [vesafb] framebuffer wont work for me... :( (Stephen Chadfield)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 Jul 1999 12:47:35 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels) writes:

> In article <7mpk1a$dj3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz) writes:
>  
> > And you might want to read up on Marxism before you declare it's bullshit;
> > it's had enormous appeal for millions of oppressed people so it must be
> > doing *something* right.
> Maybe making promises that can't be kept? 
> BTW, christianity also had/has enourmous appeal for millions
> of oppressed people. Does that mean it's also doing something
> right?

Funny you should mention christianity and Marxism together.  Putting
everyone's stuff in a pile and distributing it evenly amongst everone
seems like a pretty communist thing to do.  Read about what the
Apostles did after Christ died.
> 
> -- 
> Stefaan
> -- 
> 
> PGP key available from PGP key servers (http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/)
> ___________________________________________________________________
> Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add,
> but when there is no longer anything to take away. -- Saint-Exup�ry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: Change Star Office icon on Desktop
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:19:05 GMT

I have staroffice 5.1 for windows going, and I've added some programs to my SO 
[Desktop], but it uses the applications first default icon.  How do I change 
this to something else?

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From: "Neil Koozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:28:59 -0700


Holger Petersen wrote in message ...
>Horst von Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>>This isn't a lilo problem, it's a BIOS problem.
>
>It's both.


Yes.  It is a lilo problem inasmuch as there is no reason to write lilo to
use the bios at all.  (for IDE drives)

A year ago I wrote a working prototype first-stage loader (the part that
goes into the MBR) which addresses the IDE drives directly without using the
bios in any way.  If used in lilo, it could boot linux anywhere in the first
128gb and from any IDE drive (hda ... hdh).  The working prototype takes up
84 bytes.

I wanted to integrate this into lilo, but I had trouble reading the source
code, so I sent my routine to the lilo maintainer a year ago.  He didn't
acknowledge receipt of it or anything, so I don't know if he's interest in
that idea or not.

Neil.




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From: Nathan Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dialup changing hostname
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 15:36:50 -0400

For some reason, after I dial in to my ISP my hostname gets changed to
the name
my ISP gives dynamically when dialing in.  After this happens I cannot
start any
graphical programs like an xterm window or netscape.

I would like to know why this is happening and how I can fix it.

I am running Redhat 5.1 Kernel 2.2.9.  I never had this problem with
Redhat 4.2
Kernel 2.0.30.

Thank you.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Cleaver)
Subject: Re: SVGAText
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 Jul 1999 19:31:20 GMT

Hi there,

I recently got one of these monitors (and necessary cable) and have just
started getting it working for X.

I'm afraid I can't help you much right now, but I'm sending a request your
way. I'm assuming you have the monitor working under X.

Do you have detailed specs for the monitor? The exact horizontal and
vertical sync frequencies, pixel clock, and some requirements for the
"front porch" and "back porch"?

I had it running for X, but it was apparently right on the edge of
syncing, as it dropped out of sync, and hasn't worked in the time or two
I've tried it since then. I'm not sure if I'm on the edge of a dot-clock
thing, or what.

The partial success I had was with a 135MHz dot-clock (if I remenber
right) and I'm not sure if I should tweak it higher or lower. I've found
only the most basic information on the monitor from the usual monitor
databases and was wondering if you (or anyone else out there) could help me
out with specs or a modeline that you use.

Thanks for any help & good luck -
Bill


Michael Armbrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>I had some problems understanding how to configure SVGAText. I'm using a 
>fixed-frequency monitor (HP A2094A, 1280x1024x72Hz) with a 4Mbyte s3 virge dx
>graphics card. Does anybody use this monitor and can help me with a sample
>/etc/Textconfig file?
>Thanks a million...
>Michael 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't run executables (yes I use ./)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:29:02 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lindoze 2000 wrote:
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use Linux with kernel version 2.0.34 and libc 5.4.44.
>> I downloaded some executables, but when trying to run them I get the
>> message "Command not found". Of course I put the executables in a
>> directory which is in the path and ran rehash. In fact, if I run
>> "which executable_name", I get the exact path to the executable.
>> Copying the command to the current directory and running
>> ./executable_name doesn't help. Notice that the executables have the
>> right permissions set and the command "file executable_name" says that
>> executable_name is an ELF 32-bit LSB executable. Everything works fine
>> with executables I compiled myself.
>> 
>> Does anybody have a clue why this happens?
[...]
>this may not solve your current problem, but it will prevent your other
>problems.
8) ... after this answer to a never asked question try a strings -a
executable | less. What does the 1st line has to say ? Command not
found sounds very like "cannot find the dynamic loader" to me. Mind
that libc5 uses ld-linux.so.1 and libc6 ld-linux.so.2 ...
strings -a /bin/ls | head -1 :: /lib/ld-linux.so.2
... or to put it short, you might have got the wrong binaries.

Ta',
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /

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From: Unigni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Slackware problem...
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:11:14 +0100

I have a CD with Slackware Linux 3.4 on it, and have successfully
installed it and used it a bit on my computer ages ago (but then gave up
and returned to Windows).
 However, I'm now trying to use Linux on my new computer. I put in all
the boot and root disks, log in, start fdisk to set the partitions, and
then either straight away or a bit later while running setup, it just
stops - caps lock key light doesn't work, ctrl+alt+del doesn't work,
nothing works - and I have to press the reset button.
 The computer is a P2 333 (I think) with 192Mb RAM, and it's worked with
Windows for ages, so there's nothing wrong with the memory, and I've
checked the hard disk for bad sectors and found nothing. If you need any
more information about the system, just ask me...
 Or would the best thing to do be to get the latest version of Slackware
or a different version of Linux, and if so then how large is all the
stuff I'll need to download? (I don't want to have to pay for CDs...)

 Any help/advice will be greatly appreciated! :-)
-- 
Philip Taylor
philip @ zaynar . demon . co . uk
http://www.zaynar.demon.co.uk/atr - Programming robots!

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From: Unigni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slackware problem...
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 21:04:37 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andrei A.
Dergatchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Hi,
>[...]
>> I put in all
>>the boot and root disks,
>[...]
>
>Huh, myself I installed Slack only on 3 PCs and never
>saw anything like that. Just to clarify - do you mean
>that you tried various boot disks images (*.i or *.s files
>in /bootdsks) ? Maybe bare.i (or <some>.s) doesn't
>work for you and you need to try something else ?
>Just a thought.

I think I worded it wrongly - I only use one boot disk and one root
disk, and not all the different possible disk images... Sorry if I
confused you :-)  I'm not sure what boot disk it is (I think the root
disk is the "color" one) so I might actually try some others - since I'm
installing from the hard disk, perhaps I ought to use bare.i...
-- 
Philip Taylor
philip @ zaynar . demon . co . uk
http://www.zaynar.demon.co.uk/atr - Programming robots!

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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Legator Networker:  Installation problem, libncurses.so.3.0
Date: 17 Jul 1999 20:01:12 GMT

Kor Kiley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I tried putting the directory in the path but that didn't work.  I also
>tried creating the libncurses.so.3.0 link to 1.9.9e in /usr/lib where
>other libncurses libraries are.
Well, if it's a RedHat 5.2, you certainly have ncurses 1.9.9e (for
compatibility reasons) and 4.2, used for the majority of applications. Your
problem? IIRC, 3.0 is incompatible with both. This Legator isn't Open Source?
No? Boycott this or contact the f* authors.
Ah, /usr/xxx/xxx-libc5/ is used to keep libc5 libraries to run libc5
binaries. So, you use it only if Legator is a libc5 based application, but I
doubt.
The answer: If you have access to the sources, compile it. If no, boycott or
flame the authors.

-- 
Frederic L. W. Meunier = Niteroi, RJ - Brazil = Tel: +55-21-620-7173
Contact: fredlwm@{olympiquedemarseille.org,urbi.com.br} = IRC: _19751127
[root@marseille /tmp]# f{l,r}ames;java*;HTML_mail;SPAM > /dev/null

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei A. Dergatchev)
Subject: Re: Slackware problem...
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:38:58 GMT

Hi,
[...]
> I put in all
>the boot and root disks,
[...]

Huh, myself I installed Slack only on 3 PCs and never
saw anything like that. Just to clarify - do you mean
that you tried various boot disks images (*.i or *.s files
in /bootdsks) ? Maybe bare.i (or <some>.s) doesn't
work for you and you need to try something else ?
Just a thought.

Rgds,

Andrei

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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:43:46 GMT

I believe that Holger is voicing HIS opinion about Linux and
it's IP stack.  I'm not a developer so I don't know about
programming stuff... BUT, I do know that one programmer
saying that "the 'other' guy's code isn't right cause it
doesn't work with *my* program" isn't seeing the big
picture.

It seems to me that a good many developers have ported their
code to linux and its IP protocol without much problem. 
This just seems to be a serious case of Microserf style
FUD.  JMHO.

Bill



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Is this guy right on the money regarding the mentioned shortcomings
> of Linux?
> 
> In article <7mkmun$knv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Holger Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ancipital <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > However, a lot of the other comments are
> > > based on 2.0x, and to say that it's "the worst in the business" is
> > > just cynical, mendacious FUD.
> >
> > That is your opinion.
> >
> > There are three major TCP/IP stack families: BSD, Microsoft
> > and Linux. And yes, out of these three Linux has come up by
> > far worst in my two years of interoperability testing. It is
> > the only stack for which I ever had to put explicit workarounds
> > in my code.
> >
snip the MS style FUD
> >
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

-- 
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Park not thy Harley in the darkness of thine garage, that it 
may collect dust for want of being oft ridden. Ride thy
Harley 
with thy brethren, and rejoice in the spirit of the road.
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:21:13 -0600
From: "Youngert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Borken Link In SuSE kde base package!

I just downloaded the upgrades for SuSE-6.1 and installed the
kbase-1.1.1-15.i386.rpm and knet-1.1.1-14.i386.rpm.  The upgrade processes
went smooth with no problem.  However, after reboot and login as root or any
other user, all the window icons seem to have broken links in the sense that
clicking any icon will not bring the program up running, except the logout
icon.  Also, the kfm gave an error in loading shared libraries with
undefined symbol: setSilent__3KFMb.

Does anyone have a clue to get this to work?

--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Ozarow)
Subject: Re: GTK update hassle
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:15:13 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Glenn Wittrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> GTK (Goddamn Techno-Krap) is just annoyingly defiant about getting
> updated on my rh5.2 system.  I have tried installing the whole freakin
> gtk from source (even though I don't intend to program in it)  and from
> binary rpm's, the install seems to go ahead just fine, but when I try to
> install software that needs fresh gtk (1.2+) I get told that my system
> doesn't have it.  Does anybody know where/how I can tell the system that
> this puppy exists and is ready to go.
> 
> Thanks mucho   Glenn
> 


Glenn,

No help here, just concurring. The whole gtk version thing is a
fucking rat's nest. In a former life at one point I did have some luck
installing a fresh new version from source (maybe I dropped down into
a console, and "rpm -e"'d the whole mess as well, but who can remember
that far back, at least a month or so), but rpm installs have never
worked for me, when I have a version problem.


Larry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:10:03 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:09:49 +0600...
..and Holy Cow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Richard Kulisz wrote:
> > ...it would
> > also be far better if the USA instituted a progressive tax
> > system that took from the rich to give to the poor.
> I can never figure out this one: why would that be good?

Normally, the poor aren't poor by their own fault, and the rich
haven't become rich by their own initiative. So it's logical to take
the money that the rich don't need and normally wouldn't have and give
it to the poor who would normally have it.

It's easy. <grins,ducks&runs>

mawa
-- 
ACHTUNG! ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS!
Das Net ist nicht f�r Fingerclicken und Giffengrabben. Ist easy
droppenpacket der Routers; ist nicht f�r Gewerken bei das Dummkopfen.
Das mausklicken Sichtseeren relaxen und watchen das Cursorblinken. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown)
Subject: Re: How to disable direct login in front of Monitor?
Date: 17 Jul 1999 21:02:21 GMT

On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:37:59 -0500, Y.C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>HI:
>    I have a linux box running kernel 2.2.10. This box ususally is
>maintained by remote login.
>Since it hardly login directly in front of Monitor and consider Monitor
>as a security hole. I would like to disable login access in front of
>Monitor, but keep remote login available. Is there anyone know how to do
>that?
>
>Thanks!
>Y.C.
>
I don't know of a way to stop ALL logins from the console. But you can
stop root from doing a login by modifying the /etc/securetty file. With
RedHat 6.0, it lists tty1..tty8 . You can simply take all those out.
However, if someone has physical access to the machine, they could always
reboot into single user mode (linux single). In that mode, there is
NO login at all. Most PCs have the ability to physically lock the keyboard.
That's what I'd do. But keeping the PC in an insecure location is, in itself,
a security risk. Beside, suppose you do this. Now the PC's NIC card dies.
How do you recover. Yes, replace the NIC, but what if you can't find that
exact NIC? You may need to do a kernel gen to support the new NIC, which
you can't do because you can't login as root. I think that good physical
security would be the best idea. Lock up the PC and keyboard in a well
venelated case.

John

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From: Holy Cow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:12:30 +0600

Matthias Warkus wrote:
> Normally, the poor aren't poor by their own fault, and the rich
> haven't become rich by their own initiative. So it's logical to take
> the money that the rich don't need and normally wouldn't have and give
> it to the poor who would normally have it.
That's an awful lot of absolute statements. Why would I accept any of
that?

> It's easy. <grins,ducks&runs>
Yes, like everything stupid, it is <g>.

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From: Holy Cow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux?
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:16:34 +0600

Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
> using Math, Physics and Biology to investigate homocide scenes
Specialize in gay people <g>?

-- 
len
if you must email, reply to:
len bel at world net dot att dot net (no spaces, ats2@, dots2.)

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From: Holy Cow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:20:18 +0600

Johan Kullstam wrote:
> this problem affects microsoft operating systems too you know.  load
> up linux and cover more than 1023 cylinders.  try to install windows.
Precisely right. Last month I spent more than a few days frolicking in
the grass when trying to put NT on a 13Gig AT drive. Royal pain in the
ass and while I got it to work, still some things are funny. (I can only
"quick" format it, for example, "normal", un-quick format hangs.)

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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux?
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 15:55:19 -0500

Brad Grimes wrote:
> 
> If so, I'm writing a magazine article about operating systems and I'd like
> to hear from you. Drop me a line at:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thanks.

Age: 58

Education: MS in Biochemistry, with major hours in Math, Physics,
Chemistry, Biology and some other subjects.  Graduate training in
Fortran 64

Experience: 18 years teaching (10 in HS, 8 in college), 15 years
self-employed (Apple Store co-owner, PC computer consultant & programmer
and, during the same period, Criminal Forensics Investigator (mainly
using Math, Physics and Biology to investigate homocide scenes and CAD
programs to present the results).

I purchased the first Apple II+ computer sold in the state of Nebraska
from Team Electronics in August of 1978.  The owner of that chain and I
later became business partners.  I resigned from my teaching position in
the spring of 1980 and began my career in the PC field.  I have had a
computer in my home since 1978.  Beginning with DOS based menuing
systems like PCTools, XTree and others, I progress up the 'front end'
chain from the first Windows release through NT 4.0, which I removed and
downgraded to Win95 because of hardware incompatibilities.  While
programing for my clients the usual platforms were DOS, Win 3.0, Win
3.1, Win 3.11 or Win95.  The usual programming tools were Advanced
Revelation and Turbo Pascal 3.02a on the DOS platform, and on the
various windows platforms VB 3.0, PowerBuilder 3, 4 and 5, FoxPro 2.5
and 2.6, Visual FoxPro 5.0 and 6.0, and a plethora of minor development
tools.

Two years ago I retired my consulting business.  I had been spending 6
to 8 weeks at a time on the road and the time away from home became too
much of a hassle.  My wife of 37 years was happy to have me home on
weekends and evenings!  While doing a short programming stint at the
Dept of Revenue the dept head asked me to accept a full time progamming
job.  The programming projects were interesting and the fringe benefits
were nice so I accepted.  That spring, one final court appearance as an
expert witness in a murder re-trial (10 years after the first) ended the
forensic part of my business.  The defendant in that trial, and the
nature of his crime, was another reason why my wife wanted me to
terminate the part of my business also.  The Dept of Revenue was in the
process of upgrading 300+ workstations from Win 3.11 to Win95.  We
encountered plenty of Win95 crash modes during the upgrade.  The 30 or
so servers were driven by Novell so we didn't have too much of a problem
in that area, but we upgrade the network topology from token ring to
100MB ethernet.

Current and Linux experience; 
Having spent nearly a dozen years on a Windows environment I decided on
May 9th, 1998, after experiencing what would be the last of a countless
number of Windows crashes, to look for another OS.  The choices were
limited but a book by Bill Bush, "Learn Linux in 24 Hours" seemed
interesting.  It included a CDROM containing a distribution of RedHat
5.0.  I installed it and about 30 hours later I had a newbie's
understanding of the Unix clone.  Later I upgraded to RH 5.1, which was
so buggy that I immediately moved to RH 5.2 as soon as it came out.  In
September of 1998 I installed SuSE 5.3 to see what "fine German
engineering" was all about.  I was pleasantly suprised in the difference
between RedHat and SuSE.  I have been with SuSE on a subscription basis
since then and I'm currently running on version 6.1 using the 2.2.7
kernel.  I have tried various windows managers but since trying KDE 1.0
beta I have chosen to stay with it.

My Sony VAIO (1997) P166, ATI Mach64 video, 64MB of RAM and about 10GB
of HD space also is connected to a Mustek TWAINSCAN II SP via an
NCR53c810 SCSI card, a Cannon BJC-620 InkJet via a parallel port, and a
IOMega ZIP drive via a second parallel port.  I am connected 24/7 to the
internet via a Cisco 675 router programmed as a DHCP Server with IP
addresses supplied by Navix.net.  It is a tier one service at
187KB/sec.  At work I program on a 450MHz box with 128MB of RAM and
connect to the Internet via a T1 line.  WWW browsing speed appears to be
about the same, but during downloads my home ADSL reaches about 31KB/sec
on quiet sites while at work I can achieve 100KB/Sec from the same site,
but I'll take 31Kb/sec at home!

The lack of stability of the Visual FoxPro RAD tool from MS, and the
increasing possibility that MS will no longer support VFP has move the
Dept of Revenue to consider a different RAD tool and OS platform.  A
couple of months ago my boss asked that I install RH 6.0 on my
workstation and that I begin exploring various Java RAD tools in both
the WinXX and Linux environments.  I have downloaded and installed IBM's
VisualAge Java RAD tool for Win95 at work and for my SuSE box here at
home.  They are indentical in look, feel and operation on both
platforms.  It is also interesting to note that even though my box is a
P166 with 64MB RAM and my work box is P450 with 128MB, the two
environments operate (after loading) with about the same speed!  I've
been informed that the goal is to be off of the MS platform and tool set
in about two years.  I think it may take 3 to 5 years but it will get
done.

Here at home I use CBB to do my checking account, replacing Quicken
6.0.  I will move to GNUCash when it comes out of beta.  Gimp 1.0 has
replaced PhotoShop, but I also installed Blender-3.7, the most powerful
graphics tool I've seen on a PC and it's free.  Netscape was my browser
and email tool of choice on both platforms.   Varkon replaced WinCad 1.0
(which replaced Generic CAD 6.0) and Varkon is free.  KDE includes an
wordprocessor as powerful as WordPad, a CDROM Player, a MIDI player,
sound and edit software.  MuPAD replaces MathCad 7.0 and MuPAD is free
also. I also found Sci-Lab to be an adequate replacement for MathCad.  I
used SkyGlobe on Windows and now I use XEphem 3.2, which is much more
powerful and free.  I use ICal as my PIM and it is free.
I also purchased commerical versions of Applix, Corel WP8 and StarOffice
5.0 to see which is the better tool.  I find it amazing that I could
spend $150 or so and still have spent less than I did when I purchased
Word 7.0.  (I also had purchased the 5.0 and 6.0 versions.  Word 95 was
a $10 upgrade)  I gave StarOffice 5.0 to my son for his Linux system
because it was most similar to Word and he prefered the look and feel of
Word.  I still have both Applix and Corel WP8 on my SuSE system and I
use them both!  I like Corel's math equation tools and I like Applix
overall look and feel.
ACM 5.0 replaces the MS Flight Simulator nicely.  LinCity replaced
SimCity nicely, but I don't play that simulation anymore.  It was fun to
run four copies of Doom II simultaneously and not see any slowdown at
all but I had only a technical interest in that gory game.

I will soon sign an NDA with APC concerning beta testing their software
program to monitor their UPS.  I am using their "APC Back-UPS 500" to
protect against power outages and contacted them concerning a Linux
version and a willingness to a beta tester.  They responded with the
news that they had a Linux version ready to beta test!  

There are areas where the Linux software reservoir is shallow, but I am
not being hampered by them because I don't swim in those areas.  Others
may, but I have noticed in the last six months that the software
floodgate has been opened and, like APC, many other hardware and
software manufacturers are seeing a profitable future in the Linux OS.  

Will Linux achieve "World Domination"?  It is approaching that status in
the web server arena and it is making rapid gains in the network server
arena.  It has a long way to go before it become the dominate desktop
OS, but I believe it will do so.  Consider, however, that even in 1999
there are many PC that are still using only DOS.  Ten years from now
there were be PCs that will still running Win95.   Well, maybe not. 
Microsoft will remove support when NT2??? comes out and Win95 will go
the way of Win 3.11.  In fact, NT2??? will be the catalyst that triggers
a massive move from MS to Linux.  If NT2??? doesn't come out in a timely
manner that will be enought to trigger the move.  If it does come out
before the year 2000 but the first release is the typical buggy piece of
junk then that, too, will trigger the massive move to Linux.  If NT2???
comes out before 2000 and is as stable as Win95 then the move to Linux
will not be as rapid, but costs and stability problems will make the
move to Linux steady.  If Gates decides to move to a "monthly payment"
licensing policy or a policy that licenses parts of the OS (you want
RAS? that's extra) then the move will be tidal.

Of course, of the DOJ breaks up Microsoft then who knows what will
happen.

-- 

Jerry L Kreps

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From: Stephen Chadfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [vesafb] framebuffer wont work for me... :(
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 21:44:27 +0100

William Burrow wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:28:36 GMT,
> deny all <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I've got the framebuffers running on RH5.2 with an ATI Rage128.
> >I may have misunderstood your problems, but have you actually created
> >/dev/fb0
> >mknod /dev/fb0 c 29 0        (If I remember correctly)
> >This link told me everything I needed to know regarding the installation
> >http://www.uno.edu/~adamico/banshee/
> 
> Once you got framebuffers going, how did you deal with X?  Or do you?

Just as you normally would without a framebuffer console.

-- 
Stephen Chadfield
http://www.aquamarine.demon.co.uk/

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