Linux-Misc Digest #63, Volume #25 Fri, 7 Jul 00 08:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Extracting a file from rpm pkg (Vinod Gupta)
Re: Lilo Problem ("JJ")
DUMP problem, pls help! (Zheng Liu)
Re: why make clean before making kernel? (Tijmen Stam)
Re: Ethertap Devices ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
passwd- shadow- (Christoph Kukulies)
Shared RAID for mail/web server + load balancer? How do I do that? (Bert)
Re: Writing to CD-RW ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: "Formatting swap space" never finishes! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Writing to CD-RW (Eric)
Re: Linux and Windows NT, partition magic (Uwe Brauer)
Add pictures to LyX (Alex Fitterling)
Re: why make clean before making kernel? ("Andrew E. Schulman")
Re: line number in vi (Arjan Drieman)
Re: line number in vi (Arjan Drieman)
Re: (JOB) Seeking Unix Engineers for Migration/Porting (Michael Kraemer)
Re: "Formatting swap space" never finishes! (Robert Hampf)
Re: Add pictures to LyX (Martijn Brouwer)
Re: Add pictures to LyX (Lars Gullik Bj�nnes)
Re: (JOB) Seeking Unix Engineers for Migration/Porting (Larry Kilgallen)
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From: Vinod Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Extracting a file from rpm pkg
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:54:41 +0200
Alex wrote:
>
> > >Is there any way to selectively extract a particular file,
> > >say a readme file out of an rpm package into a tmp dir to
> > >browse the doc before actually installing the package?
> > >This is something one can easily do with a tarball.
> > >
>
> I just use gmc. Gnome's version of mc. Well, just double click on the
> rpm icon and it will show every file in that package. You can open up
> all the text files.
Using gmc is fine, but I wonder why it can't be done
with the 'rpm' package manager itself?
Vinod.
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From: "JJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,nl.comp.os.linux.overig,nl.comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Lilo Problem
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 04:18:12 -0000
had the same problem, cleaning up the mbr seemed the only solution that
worked, resetting lilo didn't change the result. There might be some garbage
left from previous installations (partitions) at least that was my problem.
good luck,
Alex
"FROZEN_Steam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ifnf6$rhs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I'm having some trouble using lilo.
>
> I've configured lilo on mbr, but when it starts, There's only an 'L' on my
> screen and I can do nothing but hit reset...
>
> I hava a Gigabyte GA71XE mainboard wth an AMD Athlon 700
>
> Could someone pls help?
>
> Thanx,
> Floris
>
>
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From: Zheng Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DUMP problem, pls help!
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:12:26 +0200
Hi all,
i have tried to dump about 12GB partition on a
DDS3-Tape by using:
"/sbin/dump 0ufsdb /dev/st0 524288 3200 128 /dev/sda3"
but I got the following message:
....
DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
DUMP: Dumping /dev/sda3 (/home) to /dev/st0
DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
DUMP: estimated 12905293 tape blocks on 0.03 tape(s).
DUMP: End of tape detected
DUMP: Closing /dev/st0
DUMP: Change Volumes: Mount volume #2
....
any idea??
(Before I run dump, I always run "mt -f /dev/st0 rewind" first.)
Btw, I dumped 14GB partition with same command on the same
band once successful.
TIA!
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From: Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why make clean before making kernel?
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:37:50 +0200
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root wrote:
> To build a new kernel I do something like this:
>
> make xconfig && make dep && make clean && make && make zImage && \
> make modules && make modules_install
>
> As far as I know this is standard procedure.
> But why the make clean? Isn't that missing the whole point of
> makefiles?
>
> -chris
I bascally don't. I installed my kernel sources in a backup dir
(/usr/src/kernel-backup/linux-2.2.14/) and every time I want to make a
new kernel (have done it +-15 times this way), I
rm -fr /usr/src/linux-2.2.14 && cp -rvxaR
/usr/src/lkernel-backup/linux-2.2.14/ /usr/src/ && cd
/usr/src/linux2.2.14 && make mrproper && make menuconfig
and after that a
make dep && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install
very fast!!! actually, the first line is done by a script, and the second
by hand, on newlines, so without the &&'s, but it's the same effect)
What is the make (between clean and zimage) you're talking about??? I
never do it.
Note: everyone who uses x should look at make menuconfig. I find it way
better to use than make xconfig...
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root wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>To build a new kernel I do something like this:
<p>make xconfig && make dep && make clean && make
&& make zImage && \
<br>make modules && make modules_install
<p>As far as I know this is standard procedure.
<br>But why the make clean? Isn't that
missing the whole point of
<br>makefiles?
<p>-chris</blockquote>
I bascally don't. I installed my kernel sources in a backup dir
(/usr/src/kernel-backup/linux-2.2.14/) and
every time I want to make a new kernel (have done it +-15 times this
way), I
<p><tt>rm -fr /usr/src/linux-2.2.14 && cp -rvxaR
/usr/src/lkernel-backup/linux-2.2.14/
/usr/src/ && cd /usr/src/linux2.2.14 && make mrproper &&
make menuconfig</tt>
<p>and after that a
<p><tt>make dep && make bzImage && make modules && make
modules_install</tt>
<p>very fast!!! actually, the first line is done by a script, and the second
by hand, on newlines, so without the &&'s, but it's the same effect)
<p>What is the make (between clean and zimage) you're talking about???
I never do it.
<p>Note: everyone who uses x should look at make menuconfig. I find it
way better to use than make xconfig...
<p>Tijmen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Ethertap Devices
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 09:35:14 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.system Tim Godfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| The file permissions are as follows
|
| crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 36, 16 July 7 15:39 /dev/tap0
|
| but when I try to open it for writing in my code with this line:
|
| fd = open ("/dev/tap0", O_WRONLY)
|
| if (fd < 0)
| {
| fprintf (stderr, "writeEth: could not open /dev/tap0\n%s\n", strerror
| (errno));
| }
Do you have this option compiled into your kernel?
Kernel/User netlink socket (CONFIG_NETLINK) [Y/n/?] ?
CONFIG_NETLINK:
This driver allows for two-way communication between certain parts
of the kernel or modules and user processes; the user processes are
able to read from and write to character special files in the /dev
directory having major mode 36. So far, the kernel uses it to
publish some network related information if you say Y to "Routing
messages", below. It is also used by the firewall code to publish
information about possible attacks if you say Y to "IP: firewall
packet netlink device" further down. You also need to say Y here if
you want to use arpd, a daemon that helps keep the internal ARP
cache (a mapping between IP addresses and hardware addresses on the
local network) small. The ethertap device, which lets user space
programs read and write raw Ethernet frames, also needs the network
link driver. If unsure, say Y.
Kernel/User netlink socket (CONFIG_NETLINK) [Y/n/?]
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From: Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: passwd- shadow-
Date: 7 Jul 2000 09:37:44 GMT
RH 6.1:
What are the file passwd-, and shadow- for?
(trailing '-' sign)
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From: Bert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Shared RAID for mail/web server + load balancer? How do I do that?
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:52:39 +0800
Hi!
I need to set up a mail /web server at where I'm working, and after
thinking about it for a while, I thought it better to have a fault
tolerant set up. I sort of managed to determine what bits & pieces I'd
required... but putting it together is entirely another matter!!
I'd appreciate any help, pointers, advice, resources anyone could point
me towards.
The basic stuff are:
2 linux boxes, built-in dual channel SCSI RAID
1 load balancer
1 external RAID
RH Linux 6.2
(Mix well....ugghh)
What i need to do is to have the 2 Linux boxes to be identical, these 2
boxes access 1 set of data on the external raid. ie, there should be
only 1 set of mail app, mailboxes etc.
So these 2 boxes need to have their own OS? Can they share data?
A load balancer will determine which box gets the job etc. for a fault
tolerant setup.
How can I put everything together? Are there any extra special bits that
I require?
Is there a better way of doing this? ie, sharing data on 1 RAID
subsystem is a no-no?
Thanks in advance for your help!!
Bert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Writing to CD-RW
Date: 7 Jul 2000 10:16:41 GMT
Sorry,
I really did mean cdrecord here. cdwrite is considered outdated.
To use cdrw's you just add a flag to erase when writing.
Chris
In alt.os.linux alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 7 Jul 2000 00:10:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:>Yes. cdwrite does both.
:>
:>Chris
:>
: I use cdrecord w/o any problems. For me, it works so much better than
: windoze. I had some CD-RWs that I could not erase in windoze; thought
: they were coasters. cdrecord blanked them in a minute -- no sweat.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "Formatting swap space" never finishes!
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:35:52 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm installing Red Hat 6.2.
> I'm at the point where Disk Druid is formatting all the partitions. It
> has done several partitions and has now hit the swap partition. On my
> screen I have a dialog box which says "Formatting swap space on
> /dev/sda7", it has been there about two hours and shows no sign of
> finishing. It is of course the smallest partition (512Mb), but it seemed
> to successfully format all the other partitions (although perhaps slower
> than I expected, it didn't take anything like this length of time to
> format a 10Gb partition).
Try to switch to other consoles and watch for fdisk messages.
Sergiusz
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Writing to CD-RW
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:48:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adventure wrote:
> Sorry I'm not too familiar with the standard names... but is the UDF
> filesystem similar to the Adaptec DirectCD format available for Windows/Mac?
Yes that is correct. For linux modules for this FS look at
http://trylinux.com/projects/udf/index.html
There's also some info on the FS there
Eric
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From: Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Windows NT, partition magic
Date: 07 Jul 2000 12:30:01 +0000
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Version 4 will refuse to work on hdd's bigger than 8 gigs. If
> you have
>
> <=8gig hdd, you can use 4.0
>
>
Thanks for the hint
> > 2. For booting. Can lilo be put in the MBR or in the root
> > partition. Is there also the 1024 cylinder problem for the
> > kernel?
>
>
> You could try the following setup:
>
> hda1 /boot ( with lilo installed here )
> hda2 ( nt ( 4 or 5 , it doesn't matter.)
>
> And keep lilo out of the mbr .
> >
> >
> > 3. Anything else to look at?
Uff good point, may I just boot from a floppy.
>
> If you do a complete install of win2k that is, prepare an empty
> partition and then run the setup from dos , it will trash the ext 2
> file system. but if you put in a minimal nt4 and then upgrade it,
> it seems to be fine.
Ufff this is the situation. I have to install in on a Computer with an
already complete system. If I squash the NT system I get be killed.
But I don't understand NT trashes the EXT2 (Linux system)? How come?
>
> The one thing you have to watch out for is to make the partition
> that nt boots from, the active until nt's everything is setup. Let
> nt think it is by
> itself , which seems to suit it perfectly.
>
> Then set the /boot as active, boot into linux, and add an entry for
> nt. I
> found it a lot simpler to alter lilo than to go messing around with
> the
>
> bootsector.dos file for nt's bootloader . So nt's bootloader loads
> itself,
>
> and nothing else, lilo handles the multibooting of the computer.
>
Well I think for the moment I will chose the floppy option, everything
you tell me seems delicate.
Thanks again
Uwe Brauer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Fitterling)
Subject: Add pictures to LyX
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:52:16 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I got a problem with insering pictures to a lyx document...
I know it only works using PS files... but it doesn't matter of
what kind I use, everyime LyX tells me something like:
"processing picture" ,but doesn't proceed on any time to show me
its content, also viewing the whole document as DVI doesn't work..
do i somehing wrong ? I need advice badly, because of my work
for studying... without these pictures my work won't look as
it need to be.. :(
(Probably its due to a invalide file format... i guess so, but I
was using several programms to convert these pictures... all
are giving me same result... hopefully someone could give me
short advice)
alex
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From: "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why make clean before making kernel?
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 06:58:13 -0400
> On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 02:50:48 -0400, Lonni J. Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Its not standard procedure. Wherever did you read that you should use
> >make clean? You *should* be using 'make mrproper' before 'make xconfig'
> >which servers a similar purpose, only it clears out additional stuff.
> >
>
> You can read this in `Running Linux', by Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman
> (O'Reilly), 2nd Ed, pp.189-90. This says you do make config, make dep,
> make clean (if you've made a kernel from this source tree previously),
> make zImage. I've always done this over several years and must have
> built at least 20 kernels; no problems at all. The only time I did make
> mrproper it screwed things up so I don't do it. (I should say I don't
> use modules.)
One annoying thing about make mrproper is that it "cleans" away any
existing .config file, so if you haven't preserved it you have to start
the configuration all over again. So in fact you need to run
mv {.,}config
make mrproper
mv {,.}config
make xconfig
etc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arjan Drieman)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: line number in vi
Date: 7 Jul 2000 11:11:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 07 Jul 2000 10:24:11 +0800, Georg Thimm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>:set number
And to turn it off:
:set nonumber
Arjan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arjan Drieman)
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: line number in vi
Date: 7 Jul 2000 11:12:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:32:24 -0400, Devon Harding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How can I see the line numbers in vi
To how many groups should one send his post? Well, to as much as
possible, of course, so everybody reads it!
Arjan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kraemer)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: (JOB) Seeking Unix Engineers for Migration/Porting
Date: 7 Jul 2000 11:04:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andrew N.
McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Kevin Galloway quoth:
>
> [] Unix Engineers
> [] ============
> [] We have a need for high grade Unix people with 5+ years C/C++ programming
> [] experience under AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, Tru64 or Linux.
>
> First, 'UNIX' ne 'Linux'.
Huh ? IMHO Linux is just another flavor of UNIX.
The only difference I see is that it still lags behind the "commercial" versions
in certain areas ( JFS, LVM, smit, HACMP, ... ).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Hampf)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: "Formatting swap space" never finishes!
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:18:37 +0300
In comp.os.linux.misc kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:
: I'm at the point where Disk Druid is formatting all the partitions. It
: has done several partitions and has now hit the swap partition. On my
: screen I have a dialog box which says "Formatting swap space on
: /dev/sda7", it has been there about two hours and shows no sign of
: finishing. It is of course the smallest partition (512Mb), but it seemed
: to successfully format all the other partitions (although perhaps slower
: than I expected, it didn't take anything like this length of time to
: format a 10Gb partition).
There used to be a restriction on how big the swap partition was
allowed to be. That was 128 MB. I don't know whether that's still
the case. If it is you could split your 512 MB into two and use both
of them as swaps.
rh
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: Re: Add pictures to LyX
Date: 7 Jul 2000 11:33:13 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Fitterling) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>I got a problem with insering pictures to a lyx document...
>I know it only works using PS files... but it doesn't matter of
>what kind I use, everyime LyX tells me something like:
>"processing picture" ,but doesn't proceed on any time to show me
>its content, also viewing the whole document as DVI doesn't work..
>do i somehing wrong ? I need advice badly, because of my work
>for studying... without these pictures my work won't look as
> it need to be.. :(
In general .eps pictures are the best. Maybe you should reconfigure your
LyX version. I recommend to ask this question at the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailing list. Checkout www.lyx.org for subsription to this list.
_________________________________________________________
Martijn Brouwer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remove the capital letters S P A M from my adress
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bj�nnes)
Subject: Re: Add pictures to LyX
Date: 07 Jul 2000 13:58:25 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer) writes:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Fitterling) wrote in
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| >I got a problem with insering pictures to a lyx document...
| >I know it only works using PS files... but it doesn't matter of
| >what kind I use, everyime LyX tells me something like:
| >"processing picture" ,but doesn't proceed on any time to show me
| >its content, also viewing the whole document as DVI doesn't work..
| >do i somehing wrong ? I need advice badly, because of my work
| >for studying... without these pictures my work won't look as
| > it need to be.. :(
|
| In general .eps pictures are the best. Maybe you should reconfigure your
| LyX version. I recommend to ask this question at the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| mailing list. Checkout www.lyx.org for subsription to this list.
The lyx-users mailinglist is nice for these kind of questions.
Regular PS will not work well with LyX, you need to have your images
in EPS (encapsulated postscript)
Lgb
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Kilgallen)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: (JOB) Seeking Unix Engineers for Migration/Porting
Date: 7 Jul 2000 09:03:12 -0500
In article <8k4dg8$6ho$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael
Kraemer) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andrew
>N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Kevin Galloway quoth:
>>
>> [] Unix Engineers
>> [] ============
>> [] We have a need for high grade Unix people with 5+ years C/C++ programming
>> [] experience under AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, Tru64 or Linux.
>>
>> First, 'UNIX' ne 'Linux'.
>
> Huh ? IMHO Linux is just another flavor of UNIX.
In many countries the courts that decide trademark cases would disagree.
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