Linux-Misc Digest #63, Volume #24 Thu, 6 Apr 00 20:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Netscape 6 (Minko Markov)
recieving mail with pin (Russell Schreiber)
Download Problems (Michael Gray)
Re: research (Nico Coetzee)
Re: non destructive partition utility ("Dan Yankowsky")
Re: non destructive partition utility ("Dan Yankowsky")
Re: I have overwrite MBR ! Help!Please (Spike)
Re: what important I missed for bash? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Root Passwords ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SVGATextMode and nvidia TNT2 ?? (Michael Kelly)
Re: RedHat gets "echo" wrong (Tom Roberts)
need help to use minicom to connect to console using ttyS0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: what important I missed for bash? ("Peter T. Breuer")
need help to use minicom to connect to console using ttyS0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
LINUX FOR WINDOWS ("Chris Brown")
Re: Bash shell ----- Help ??? (Floyd Davidson)
Linux vs. Windows Benchmarks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LINUX FOR WINDOWS (Jan Schaumann)
Re: SCSI hangs (Tim De Vos)
Directory size question ("Avery Fay")
Re: Directory size question (Peter T. Breuer)
Re: Did I kill my monitor?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Directory size question (Juergen Heinzl)
Cannot log in via telnet ("Buck Turgidson")
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Subject: Re: Netscape 6
From: Minko Markov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 19:54:49 GMT
mitja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Minko Markov wrote:
> > Did anyone try the new netscape?
> > It did not work here. I started
> > "netscape" in the "package" directory,
> > then it displayed some mozilla-like
> > messages indicating the progress,
> > and then exited. I mean, exited
> > without any complaint of missing
> > library or something similar. Very
> > strange, no error message, no core
> > dump, the process just terminates
> > before the window shows up.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestion.
> >
> > Minko
> You need Libjpeg.so.62.
>
The problem is resolved. It is not libjpeg.*
I had an old "~/.mozilla" directory. Once it
was deleted, netscape6 ran.
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Minko
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From: Russell Schreiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: recieving mail with pin
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:55:35 -0400
How do you configure pine for an external mail server. I dont know if I
have this set up correctly or not. Also, when its set up, what keys to
you hit to download the messages. No messages ever appear in my inbox.
Thank you for any help you give. Russell Schreiber
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From: Michael Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Download Problems
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:58:34 -0400
Hi,
Let me start out by laying out my setup before describing my
problem. I have a Pentium 166 machine acting as a gateway server in my
home office. The server is Red Hat 6.1, and the internal machines are
all Win 98. The linux server acts as a router and gateway for the
internal machines (masqueraded), and as a Samba server for them also.
It also runs httpd to serve my company web site. It also acts as an ftp
server. Its hardware is as follows: the machine is an IBM Aptiva
2159. I took out the winmodem and added a Zoom ISA 56k modem to connect
to my ISP. The Ethernet card is a Linksys 10/100 card (using the tulip
driver). I think I covered the main points, so here goes: my problem
is that sometimes I have problems downloading files both to the server
and through the server to the internal machines. What usually happens
is that the file will start coming down and hang somewhere around
30-40k. But, this isn't always the case. I downloaded the 2.2.14
kernel to the server with no problems. Same with GCC 2.95. Sometimes,
when downloading an rpm it comes through fine, other times it hangs. On
the windows machines, I can't run the little Windows 98 update. It
starts the download and them promptly hangs. I typically pop my mail
from my ISP right to my Win machine with no problems, but if someone
mails me something with a large attachment, it hangs at some point, and
repeated tries get nowhere and finally I have to telnet to the mail
server and just delete the message in question. Web surfing on the
internal machines seems to work fine. Sometimes I find myself needing
to download a large Acrobat file for specs on something. Again,
sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It sounds crazy, but tarred
and gzipped files seem to come more often without problems, while other
large files seem to hang more often. When I installed Red Hat 6.1 on
the machine, I just used the graphical install and picked the "Server"
option and let it do its thing, then tweaked what needed to be tweaked
to get up and running. The situation has been present since the
beginning. At one time, I had a weird crash and burn and reinstalled
the system, and the problem was still there. I have since poked and
prodded everywhere I can think of, but I can't think of what might cause
this. As you can probably tell from reading this, I'm sort of new at
server administration, but I wouldn't call myself a "newbie". So, if
you need to talk technical, I'll be able to follow. Also, If you need
any other information, I'll be glad to provide it. I figure I'll save
the bandwidth, and let people tell me what they might want to see.
Since I can't pinpoint what could cause the problem, I don't know what
else might be important. Feel free to respond to my e-mail if you
prefer. Thank you in advance for any help you can provide. Take Care,
Michael Gray
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Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 22:11:48 +0200
From: Nico Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: research
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Bill wrote:
> I'm doing a debate about whether online schools should have the
> certification to award students college degrees. I need 50 responses by
> MONDAY. A quick heat-felt yes or no is fine, I just want some answers.
> Thanks.
If you only need 50 answers you could just as well flip a coin. I hope you
are not trying to do this scientifically...
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I'm doing a debate about whether online schools should
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by
<br>MONDAY. A quick heat-felt yes or no is fine, I just want some
answers.
<br>Thanks.</blockquote>
If you only need 50 answers you could just as well flip a coin. I hope
you are not trying to do this scientifically...
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From: "Dan Yankowsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: non destructive partition utility
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:15:26 -0400
"Bob Tennent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
> fips
>
> Bob T.
This is a non-destructive partitioning utility on the RedHat install CD in
the dosutils directory. Problem is, that I know of, fips only partitions
fat16 disks. If your disk is fat32, this won't work (somebody correct me if
I'm wrong). This may not be so bad, though, because as far as I know, Linux
will not read fat32 partitions, so you won't be able to access your windows
fat32 data while running linux.
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From: "Dan Yankowsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: non destructive partition utility
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:24:38 -0400
> the dosutils directory. Problem is, that I know of, fips only partitions
> fat16 disks. If your disk is fat32, this won't work (somebody correct me
if
> I'm wrong). This may not be so bad, though, because as far as I know,
Linux
I'll correct myself. Fips apparently does do FAT32 (fips v.2) I read this
on a message only a few messages down. Sorry.
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From: Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I have overwrite MBR ! Help!Please
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 20:46:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
rus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What shoud I do in that case - I had overwrite MBR and now I can not
> start my Linux.
> Please help
Try booting from a DOS floppy and issuing fdisk /mbr If that doesn't
work, reinstall linux as an upgrade and it will re-write LILO near the
end of the "so called upgrade" process (if your distribution is like
RedHat)
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
>
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: what important I missed for bash?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6 Apr 2000 17:01:39 -0500
On 2000-04-06 [EMAIL PROTECTED](ChanYickWai) said:
>for fs in $CLSERV1FS; do <--------- this is line 19 !!!
Remove the ;
Apparently the latest version of bash follows the rules more strictly than
previous versions of bash or sh. Yesterday someone solved a script problem
by adding a semicolon where I wouldn't have thought it was needed.
Maybe the next version will have a "useless use of cat" error message.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Root Passwords
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 20:59:42 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc, 2 Bit Unix, Inc. didst eloquently scribe:
> Please visit http://www.2bitunix.org for information on obtaining our root
> passwords!
> Brian D. McGrew, Sr. Security Engineer
Not for long, if he broadcasts them to all and sundry...
Who *IS* this arsehole?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Subject: SVGATextMode and nvidia TNT2 ??
Date: 6 Apr 2000 21:01:53 GMT
I'd like to use some of the larger fonts on
virtual terminals and SVGATextMode default
config doesn't know about nvidia TNT2. Is
there a config utility that will load up
the options with choices that will take
advantage of the hardware?
I'm using TurboLinux Workstation 4.0.
I've read the man page for SVGATextMode
but it's not obvious how I get it to recognize
my video hw.
--
Mike
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From: Tom Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat gets "echo" wrong
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:09:44 -0500
Craig Macbride wrote:
> Which is of no use at all if you are running #!/bin/sh scripts, unless you
> want to edit every script to use "echo -e" instead of "echo". (And, in that
> case, other Unix boxes will put an explicit "-e" at the beginning of each
> output line!)
Can't you put this into $HOME/.bashrc:
alias echo='echo -e'
Hmmm. IIRC there is some magic required to let you alias a builtin.
You'd better read the bash manpage.
Tom Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: need help to use minicom to connect to console using ttyS0
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:15:27 GMT
I have a linux box with two comm ports which we used under Win95 to
connect to console port of network equipment, e.g. routers, using
Hyperterminal.
I am trying to duplicate this effort under Linux with Minicom. Please
advise as to what is needed.
1. I have connected my com1 or /dev/ttyS0 to a console of Cisco router.
2. I have used minicom -s and assigned the serial setup to /dev/ttyS0
with 9600 8N1 and hardware and software control
3. I did not use any callin or callout programs
Once I completed and saved, I get a blank response from minicom and I am
unable to connect. Please let me know what I need to do. I would like to
also
have the option of sending text files using minicom to the connected
device(s).
Thank you,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: what important I missed for bash?
Date: 6 Apr 2000 21:18:27 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: On 2000-04-06 [EMAIL PROTECTED](ChanYickWai) said:
: >for fs in $CLSERV1FS; do <--------- this is line 19 !!!
: Remove the ;
: Apparently the latest version of bash follows the rules more strictly than
: previous versions of bash or sh. Yesterday someone solved a script problem
The semicolon is REQUIRED in sh and bash1. This is senseless breakage
(and I don't believe it!).
: by adding a semicolon where I wouldn't have thought it was needed.
At the end of a list. That's known.
: Maybe the next version will have a "useless use of cat" error message.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: need help to use minicom to connect to console using ttyS0
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:17:43 GMT
I have a linux box with two comm ports which we used under Win95 to
connect to console port of network equipment, e.g. routers, using
Hyperterminal.
I am trying to duplicate this effort under Linux with Minicom. Please
advise as to what is needed.
1. I have connected my com1 or /dev/ttyS0 to a console of Cisco router.
2. I have used minicom -s and assigned the serial setup to /dev/ttyS0
with 9600 8N1 and hardware and software control
3. I did not use any callin or callout programs
Once I completed and saved, I get a blank response from minicom and I am
unable to connect. Please let me know what I need to do. I would like to
also
have the option of sending text files using minicom to the connected
device(s).
Thank you,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Chris Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LINUX FOR WINDOWS
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:52:13 +0100
I have been trying to install Linux Mandrake 6.0 but having some difficuties
it seems to go through the set up procedue as you would expect it to do so
however when it has finished installing and I try to run it, it restart the
set up procedue.
Please help.
Regards
Chris Brown
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash shell ----- Help ???
Date: 06 Apr 2000 13:02:16 -0800
Andy9701 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Say we have two directories /home/john/ftp/current
>and /home/john/ftp/backup
>>
>> The file would look something like this.
>>
>> #!/bin/bash
>>
>> cp /home/john/ftp/current/* /home/john/ftp/backup/
>
>It might be easier to use this instead:
>cp -r /home/john/ftp/current /home/john/ftp/backup/
>
>The -r argument says to copy recursively, so everything in current,
>even any subdirectories and their contents will be copied.
That still leaves a few problems, such as permissions. Using the
-a option is the same as -dpR options, which does an archival
copy.
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux vs. Windows Benchmarks
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:51:52 GMT
Hi --
where can I find Linux vs. Windows benchmarks?
Specifically, I am looking to compare O/S and application
performance on the same Hardware platform.
Any hints appreciated.
Ulrich
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX FOR WINDOWS
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:06:22 -0400
Chris Brown wrote:
>
> I have been trying to install Linux Mandrake 6.0 but having some difficuties
> it seems to go through the set up procedue as you would expect it to do so
> however when it has finished installing and I try to run it, it restart the
> set up procedue.
take out the floppy and/or cd-rom
-Jan
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From: Tim De Vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI hangs
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:09:23 +0200
> Some questions:
>
> What are the make and models of SCSI IDs 0, 2, and 4?
>
> It *looks* like unit 4 is being strange.
>
> At UMass we have had some trouble with Quantum ultra-wide disks.
> The pure Linux box started having disk I/O errors after the disk was 1
> month old. No data was lost -- the drive had not totally died or
> anything. Another (similar) machine with the same sort of Quantum
> ultra-wide disk running MS-Windows NT lasted a number of months with no
> *apparent* problems, until it failed to boot one day. The drive in
> question was in much worse shape. It *seemed* that MS-Windows was much
> more tolerant of 'flaky' hardware than Linux. To add another data
> point: I am part owner of a server that was shipped with Quantum
> ultra-wide disks -- running Linux it too started reporting disk I/O
> errors after the disk was 1 month old. All of the machines have had
> their disks replaced and have been running *perfectly* for many months
> since -- clearly the rest of the hardware is good.
> \/
> Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks for the information!
Here is my complete configuration:
ID0 : Quantum SCSI Atlas 10K
ID2 : Pioneer DVD-S303
ID4 : PlexWriter PX-W4220T
Maybe it's usefull to disconnect the PlexWriter and try it again.
Can it also be possible that it has something to do with my
Adaptec BIOS upgrade from 2.02 to 2.20?
Thanks
Tim De Vos
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From: "Avery Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Directory size question
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:18:07 -0400
I have had a working Linux installation for a little while now and I'm ready
to repartition my drives and upgrade at the same time. Currently I have two
partitions: /boot and /. I would like to create a few more atleast for
/boot, /, /usr, /home, and possibly others such as /var, /tmp, /lib, and
/var/tmp. My problem is I don't know what size to make the partitions. I
figured that I could just see how much disk space each of those directories
took up but I don't really know how. The command ls -l will give the space
used for the specified directory but does not go further than that
directory. For example, it gives the size for /lib but does not include
/lib/modules. So, does anyone know a way to find how much space a directory
as well as all the directories below it take up?
Thanks,
Avery Fay
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Subject: Re: Directory size question
Date: 6 Apr 2000 22:31:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Avery Fay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have had a working Linux installation for a little while now and I'm ready
: to repartition my drives and upgrade at the same time. Currently I have two
: partitions: /boot and /. I would like to create a few more atleast for
: /boot, /, /usr, /home, and possibly others such as /var, /tmp, /lib, and
: /var/tmp. My problem is I don't know what size to make the partitions. I
: figured that I could just see how much disk space each of those directories
: took up but I don't really know how. The command ls -l will give the space
man du. du -sx /home.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Did I kill my monitor??
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 22:45:27 GMT
And verily, didst Joe Schottman hastily scribble thusly:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Now a solution, if you're up to it you can CAREFULLY remove the cover, do
>> not bend the circuit boards by yanking, look through the side with a
>> flashlight if necessary. The power is unplugged of course, take a screwdriver
>> and CAREFULLY turn EVERY trim pot (small knobby thing on the board, I mean no
>> offence by this) back and fourth and RETURN it to EXACTLY where it came from.
> Be VERY carefull working with electronics if you don't know what you're doing.
> Even with no power, there can be capacitance that takes a long time to
> discharge.
Especially around the CRT itself. That thing can REALLY pack a punch.
(25,000 volts worth)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Directory size question
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 22:58:36 GMT
In article <8cj31q$r59$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Avery Fay wrote:
>I have had a working Linux installation for a little while now and I'm ready
>to repartition my drives and upgrade at the same time. Currently I have two
>partitions: /boot and /. I would like to create a few more atleast for
>/boot, /, /usr, /home, and possibly others such as /var, /tmp, /lib, and
>/var/tmp. My problem is I don't know what size to make the partitions. I
>figured that I could just see how much disk space each of those directories
>took up but I don't really know how. The command ls -l will give the space
>used for the specified directory but does not go further than that
>directory. For example, it gives the size for /lib but does not include
>/lib/modules. So, does anyone know a way to find how much space a directory
>as well as all the directories below it take up?
Try, as root ...
du -s -k /usr
... for instance. -s means display a summary only and -k means use
kilobyte. To do it as root does not have a too special reason, just
so du does not complain about directories it might not enter as a normal
user (e.g. my /home/ftp is a special case).
As usual leave some space, perhaps 50%, and if you have got a (very)
large disk then there is no need to use it up right now. For instance
I re-partitioned mine later on to add a large /opt partition.
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot log in via telnet
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:30:07 GMT
Am getting the following message logging on tonight after powering down last
night. Any idea as to what is causing this, and how I can rectify it? I
can access it from the console as root, but that is the only user I can use.
Red Hat Linux release 6.1 (Cartman)
Kernel 2.2.12-20 on an i586
login: jerry
Password:
The system is going down on Wed Apr 5 19:51:03 2000
Login incorrect
login:
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