Linux-Misc Digest #804, Volume #21 Tue, 14 Sep 99 03:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can I set up /dev/floppy to be mounted by non-root? (Me)
SAMBA 2.0.5a not stable as 2.0.3? serious problem here...:-( ("Frank Bauer")
Re: schedular (Me)
Re: Playing a CD (Leo Cambilargiu)
Daily Nutz: Linux integrates first contribution from Squid ("Matt2000")
Re: Turn off Virtual desktop? ("J. David Eisenberg")
Re: HELP - I direly need to know the easiest way to format my Linux (muzh)
Are tar tapes OS dependent? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Win right-click) ("Dan Hughes")
Hard-disk freespace problem (Gareth Chichester)
help--root file repair ("mail3.ntu.edu.sg")
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (K. Bjarnason)
Re: Source ld-so.2.x.x (Zeger Hendrikse)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (K. Bjarnason)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (K. Bjarnason)
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From: Me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: Can I set up /dev/floppy to be mounted by non-root?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 01:37:59 -0400
Kurt & Amy Johnson wrote:
>
> Using RH6.0 and I like KDE best.
>
> Can I (and should I, for that matter) set permissions for /dev/floppy to
> allow all users to mount it?
>
> What is the level of permissions that I should use?
>
> T I A,
> Kurt
see man mount
there is a user mountable command ( -o user maybe?)
Has for security, that is up to you, but if you box is public or where
others can get at, then probably not.
Joe
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From: "Frank Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.protocols.smb,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: SAMBA 2.0.5a not stable as 2.0.3? serious problem here...:-(
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:37:31 +0200
since update from Kernel 2.0.36 to 2.2.10 (and from SuSE Linux 6.0 to 6.2
and of course from Samba 2.0.3 to 2.0.5a)
from the first all was running fine.
But after two days we get several problems. After an undefined time we get
on our workstations suddenly an
network- or file error (NT 4.0 WS SP5) and after restarting our program
(MS-ACCESS 97 Database) it works fine...
till the next network- or file error.
when we get the error the smb.log files says: (log level 2)
[1999/09/13 09:30:59, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_socket_data(507)
read_socket_data: recv failure for 4. Error = Connection reset by peer
[1999/09/13 09:30:59, 1] smbd/server.c:exit_server(406)
Closing connections
does anyone how to correct this?
Thanks
Frank
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From: Me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: schedular
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 01:39:13 -0400
Michael Ransburg wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm looking for a schedular / calendar application for the linux console
> (!). I want to be able to get a nice overview about the week / month with
> all the appointments which are due this week / month. I use the schedular
> of MS Outlook a lot at work and I would like to have something similar for
> the linux console, I'm not interested in X applications.
>
> It does not need all the fancy features of the Outlook schedular, as I
> don't use them much anyway, I'm just looking for a plain console schedular
> program.
>
> thanks
> mike
> --
> Curious? Look at http://daneel.tsx.org
Emacs has a real nice calandar/sched built in(among other things, it
never fails to amaze me;)
Joe
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From: Leo Cambilargiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Playing a CD
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:07:48 +1000
I had a problem similar to this. I managed to fix it in RH5.0 by running
sndconfig. (I have a SBVibra16 an old one that had problems under
linux-2.0.32-36). And after recompiling a newer kernel the problem
virtually went away. The only last concern I had
was sound playing from one speaker only when playing a CD.
In my situation, when I reboot the computer from Win95, the sound would
come out perfectly, when I cycled the power, it came out of one speaker.
I asked a newsgroup about it but never got a response.
I no longer have this problem. I run Kernel version 2.0.37. It could be
a kernel bug that is now fixed.
I hope this helped you.\
Leo Cambilargiu
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Will Briggs wrote:
> If this has already arrived at the newsgroup, I apologize, butI received a send
> error so I am resending.
>
> Basically, the problem is that I cannot play CD audio under linux. I can play
> it under Windows, and I can play mp3 and wav audio under Linux. This really
> has me stumped, so any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
>
>
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From: "Matt2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.humor,alt.humor.parodies,rec.humor
Subject: Daily Nutz: Linux integrates first contribution from Squid
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:25:59 GMT
Answering calls from the international community, the Linux operating system
integrated the first code submission made by a squid today. Read all about
it here:
http://www.hotnutz.com/hotnutz.shtml?19990914
Matt
Hotnutz.com
a dose of the truth machine
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From: "J. David Eisenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turn off Virtual desktop?
Date: 14 Sep 1999 05:17:42 GMT
Soltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I'm running redhat 6.0 and have GNOME, KDE, etc installed. While the
: "virtual desktop" is a nice feature, I'd like to turn it off so that the
: edge of the viewable screen _is_ actually the edge of the screen. Can
: someone direct me as to how to accomplish this? Many thanks.
In KDE, choose Setting/Desktop/Borders, and uncheck the
"Enable active desktop border" checkbox.
I don't have GNOME running at the moment, so I can't tell you
how to do it there.
: --
: Glen McWhorter
: =================================
--
J. David Eisenberg http://www.best.com/~nessus
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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP - I direly need to know the easiest way to format my Linux
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:27:24 +1200
Linux fdisk or cfdisk can create, delete etc partitions for most
operating systems. (I even had to use Linux fdisk to create a partition
for my Winblows98 system, as the brain-dead dos fdisk could not go above
1024 cylinders!!)
Dos fdisk cannot see Linux partitions at all -- as a general rule.
If you use Suse Linux, YaST has a good partitioning and formatting
routine.
Remember -- these tools are very destructive and dangerous -- BACK UP
before doing anything else --
cll
John H wrote:
>
> HELP ! ! !
>
> I need to know how to format my linux partition, or from dos, delete the
> partition (without the use of fdisk) so that I can re-format my ENTIRE
> drive, by doing so deleting the Linux partition.
>
> Thank you,
>
> John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:38:50 GMT
Can tar files made on tapes under one architecture/OS be transported to
another architecture/OS?
Specifically, if I create some far files to tape on a SunSPARC running
Solaris, can I read them on an Intel box running Linux?
Both machines have a DDS3 DAT drive.
Thanks,
Matt
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "Dan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Win right-click)
Date: 13 Sep 1999 22:19:57 PDT
JC> But, Linux, though an excellent kernel, would not allow the
JC> Amiga layered software to differentiate itself from any other
JC> environment. Actually, in any case, BeOS may have supplanted the
JC> AmigaOS for its target niche. And remember, Folks, OALA,
JC> EHOATAS.
What major applications currently work in the Be Os environment ? Are
there any Aminet type archives ?
Dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gareth Chichester)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hard-disk freespace problem
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:26:57 GMT
I have a strange problem I hope someone here can help me with.
When I use df I get:
Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hdb8 ext2 537M 481M 28M 94% /
/dev/hda6 hpfs 701M 678M 23M 97% /mnt/os2
/dev/hdb5 ext2 194M 127M 58M 69% /mnt/misc
/dev/hdb1 vfat 1022M 1008M 14M 99% /mnt/games
/dev/hdb7 msdos 236M 233M 3.0M 99% /mnt/tmp
/dev/hdc iso9660 647M 647M 0 100% /mnt/cdrom
For some reason on my root partition the 'Available' space doesn't
match up with the Size and Used columns. It started when I did run
out of space on the partition (I badly need a new hard-disk).
Everything seems to run okay, I'm just not sure it it's a pointer to
some other problem later on, so if I can fix it I'd like to.
Thanks in advance,
Gareth.
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:11:41 +0800
From: "mail3.ntu.edu.sg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help--root file repair
Hi, who can help me?
When i installed the second netcard, the systems can not reboot normally.
So i put restart button and restarted it. Then when the system boot, it
asked me to repair the root file system. What can i do and how to do?
Thanks.
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From: K. Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:22:32 -0700
In article <937359836.285789306@news>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I have never met someone who has run a Win9x box for more than 24 hrs without
> it crashing. By this, I mean that they actually USED the machine; letting it
> sit there and generate heat doesn't count.
Well, come on over. I have a Win98 box sitting here which runs...
1) A web server *
2) Custom CGI scripts
3) A webcam *
4) News client *
5) Email client *
6) ICQ client *
7) Various games
8) Web browser
9) Misc this and that
The apps denoted with "*" are those which typically run all the time -
as in 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Do we have to reboot it from time
to time? Yes. Then again, we're having intermittent hardware failures,
so that's not too surprising - but our uptime, in spite of the failures,
is typically 48 hours plus, and will go up considerably when the faulty
hardware is replaced, probably next week. Prior to the onset of the
harware failures, the box would remain up for days, even weeks at a
time, the usual cause for it going down was us installing some new game
or application which required an update of a locked file.
Oh, just to give you a chuckle...
The box is currently running on a P5 board originally sold as a 100Mhz
configuration, with a max speed rating of 166Mhz. The chip on it is a
233Mhz K6, which the on-board BIOS doesn't recognize, so the BIOS
reports that the system is running as a 66Mhz 486. Win98 reports it as
a 200Mhz K6. Benchmarking suggests it is performing as a 166Mhz K6.
So, a mismatch of chip, BIOS, board and speed, wrong video drivers
currently running, and, to top it off, the old HD - a well-used 1.6Gb
IDE drive - is showing signs of its age... yet despite this, *and* with
certain components in the process of dying, the system _still_ remains
up until _we_ do something requiring a reboot, for more than 24 hours at
a time. Easily.
Given that, the notion of "I have never met someone who has run a Win9x
box for more than 24 hrs without it crashing" is laughable.
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From: Zeger Hendrikse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Source ld-so.2.x.x
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 14:48:38 +0200
Paul Kimoto wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Zeger Hendrikse wrote:
> > Does anyone know where I can find the source of
> > ld-so.2.x.x? I have only stumbled upon the 1.9.5
> > and the 1.9.9 source code.
>
> If you mean ld-linux.so.2, which should point to ld-2.x.y.so,
> that is part of glibc-2.x.y.
>
> --
> Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It seems then that the dynamic loader version 2.x.y is
(implemented) completely different as opposed to version
1.x.y....
Thanks anyway for your advice,
--
Zeger Hendrikse
http://www.wins.uva.nl/~zegerh
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From: K. Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:53:18 -0700
In article <7rjom8$8gl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Advocating ignorance always makes me angry. Saying that people should
> remain ignorant "because Microsoft knows what's best for them" makes me
> angry.
Silly me; I missed the point where _anyone_ here advocated ignorance.
Could you perhaps point it out?
Oh, certainly, some of us are suggesting that users _should_ be able to
use their computers without 6 months of night school just to be able to
install and run their word processor; however, I don't recall _anyone_
here saying that users should _not_ take courses or read books.
You seem to have a very large blind spot in this area. I think Tom
would agree with me that we would love it if users were more technically
literate. I think he'd agree that encouraging them to attend classes
was a good thing. I think he'd also agree that *expecting* users to do
this *just* to be able to do the most trivially basic things which we,
as developers, can do for them automatically, is totally pointless.
Why buy a computer, if not to make things simpler? If I wanted to write
a letter, I could use a pencil or a typewriter. If I wanted to track
recipes, I could buy a pad. If I wanted to store addresses, I could buy
a rolodex. If I wanted to balance my checkbook, I could buy a
calculator.
Or, I could buy a computer which can take a lot of the drudgery out of
those tasks, while also opening up a lot of other options for things I
can do. A typical consumer buys the machine to make things _easier_ and
_more fun_ not to sit on a shelf for months while they take a course on
how to cope with what to them are bizarre and obscure commands. Why
should a user - or more to the point, tens of thousands of users, if
your software is at all popular - be forced to jump through those hoops
simply because you're too lazy to do something as basic as a user-
friendly install?
Nobody is advocating ignorance; they're advocating _consumer-friendly_
tools. That you can't, or won't, see the differnece is nobody's problem
but your own.
> People who mistake my desire for people to be a bit more
> enlightened as "arrogance" makes me wonder if anyone on this planet
> really understands the English language.
Wanting them to be more enlightened is good; tilting at windmills
insisting that they become so, simply to make you happy, is arrogance.
> Yeah, I've got an attitute. So do you. So do all of the contemptible
> trolls and other MS-Defenders who post here, saying that people
> shouldn't hafta know nuthin' at all about 'puters but should still be
> able to modify them, change them, with impunity, by being able to
> install 100+ megabytes of data and code without knowing anything about
> the processes involved.
Interesting; anyone supporting the concept of consumer friendly
computing is a contemptible troll? No, no, you can't be serious, even
though that is the point you're arguing against.
Hmm... do you by any chance write software by stuffing hex codes into
binary files? No? We used to do that in the old C-64 days. Well, I
guess you're just one of those trolls who is against people knowing how
their machine works, right? Hell, if you write software and can't
recite, by rote, every hex value and its associated opcode, then you're
just one of those computer-ignorant people you despise so much, aren't
you?
I'm assuming that about this point, you've clued in to just how totally
bizarre your position seems to be.
> This has nothing to do with "only computer 'experts' . . . should be
> able to own/operate" a computer. It has to do with having an inkling of
> intelligence. Computers are sophisticated. Complex. Unrivalled as
> compared to other consumer devices. A computer can be a phone, FAX,
> Television, CD player and Word Processor all at the same time, while
> still having the capacity to do other functions as well. Yet people
> like you insist that nobody should need any skill when working with one.
> Yet we need to pass a written test before we are allowed to drive cars,
> to prove that we have an inkling of awareness with regard to the rules
> of the road, and how to operate the vehicle.
Generally speaking, if you don't follow the rules of the road, you risk
killing yourself and others. Generally speaking, if you - as a typical
consumer - don't follow the rules of computing, the worst you're liable
to do is screw up some of your own data.
Personally, I see a bit of a difference. Some corrupted data vs several
dead bodies. See if you can figure it out.
> No. Frustrated. Not arrogant. It's the MS-Contingent with their "We Won
> The OS War And Everyone Else Is A Luzer" who are arrogant. Their smug
> "Our Way Is The Only Proper Way To Do Anything" mindset is arrogant.
Odd; I don't recall seeing anyone here advocating that position. A few
of us have advocated that consumer-oriented computing *should* in fact
be consumer oriented, which means, among other things, coping with
enough reality to recognize that most consumer computer users can't
program a VCR.
One copes with reality, or one ends up in the rubber room. We're
advocating coping. What are you advocating?
> If you tried to make the simple repair in question, and munged it up,
> making more work for them to clean up the mess, then yes, they probably
> think you're a bozo. You see, that's my issue, the idea that
> computer-ignorant people should be able to ***ADMINISTER*** a computer,
> which is ********NOT******** the same thing as *******USING******* a
> computer.
Are you back to your old "Installing software is not the same as using a
computer" which I've had to laugh at you for already once tonight?
In either case, I don't recall seeing anyone voting for you as the grand
high dictator of what the consumer in general can do. If you can't cope
with the reality of the market, that's your problem - they're not going
to change to make you happy.
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From: K. Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:53:44 -0700
[snips]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> The confusion, I think, has come because up to now, most Linux users have
> also been Linux admins. What Linux needs to become a mainstream desktop OS
> is not an easier-to-use GUI, but someone who will adminiter the box. For
> home users, Linux may be an even better option than Windows, because Linux
> *can* be set up to require minimal maintenance (most people won't need to
> run sendmail or apache, so we can turn those off by default in the consumer
> desktop distribution). A factory installed and configured Linux
> installation will probably run a lot longer than a factory Windows install
> before needing any intervention, especially since Linux can be made to
> maintain itself to a large extent.
Well, I think the UI needs to become a whole lot more friendly, and -
despite rants from some of the *nix crowd - more standardized, but given
that - and compatibility with existing Windows apps, at least in terms
of sharing data files - then yes, that could well be.
I still say the UI needs to become standardized. Envision for the
moment your next-door-neighbour John running Linux at home and at work.
At home he's bought distro X and a month later, the office decides to go
with distro Y - with a completely (or at least significantly) different
UI. Now he has to either learn both, or throw his out and buy distro Y.
Fine; he gets the hang of that, then heads down to the local library,
which, in a fit of helpfulness, has decided to install computers to help
people find things, copy files, etc, etc. Except, it uses distro Z with
yet another interface.
Getting annoyed, he heads over to his friend Bill's place, and Bill
wants to show him the new software he just got. Sit down, John, and
fire up "SDemo". Umm... sorry, Bill, this is distro Q, and I have no
idea how to work it.
Even assuming all four are fairly simple interfaces, he still has to
cope with four of them, even though he's only using *one* OS - and
possibly even one *version* of that OS.
Sure, this is an excessive example - intentionally. The point is, if
you encounter and have to cope with more than one machine, unless you're
the geek/admin type to start with, it's liable to be confusing - but
what, if any, concrete benefit is there to it?
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