Linux-Misc Digest #900, Volume #23 Sun, 19 Mar 00 19:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Problems logging in at ISP ("Bill L.")
Re: Bootdisks, rdev, and root filesystems...aargh! ("Dennis Heltzel")
Re: Red Hat Linux 6.2 & XFree86 4.0? ("Jim Ross")
Re: Problems logging in at ISP ("E. Robert Tisdale")
What database system? (Paul Winkler)
RH 6.0 / Elm with MIME? (Barry L. Bond)
Re: Linux keeps crashing...? (long) (Robert Heller)
lilo won't boot w2k on scsi ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CD-RW troubles ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I'm Lost!! New to Linux ("Larry")
Corrupt file system (Idar Tollefsen)
xmail? ("William Palfreman")
Re: Bootdisks, rdev, and root filesystems...aargh! (Dances With Crows)
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From: "Bill L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.dial-up
Subject: Re: Problems logging in at ISP
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 14:01:44 -0800
Use freei.
www.freei.net
No scripts, no hassle...
Or, if you dont trust the freebies, get Mindspring.
MaryP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> question:
> > >Mar 10 14:45:43 localhost pppd[622]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit
> > >clean:
> > >Mar 10 14:45:43 localhost pppd[622]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
> >
> > >What does this mean and how do I solve it?
>
>
> reply from someone else:
> > It usually means that there's a shell or terminal server prompt running
on
> > the other end of the connection instead of ppp. Perhaps you need to use
a
> > chat script to tell the other side to switch to ppp?
>
> comment from me:
> My ISP's on-line tech support supplies their scripts at this URL:
> http://www.chorus.net/support/linuxhelp.html
>
> follow the links to read the scripts they suggest for their subscribers.
> This may not work for you exactly as shown because I understand the ISPs
> all have their own internal differences. However it might provide a
> starting point or format.
>
> FWIW I have not been able to make these scripts work yet myself, but that
> doesn't mean it's impossible, it means I am having the exact same problem
> you are and I still have to learn how to use scripts :-)
>
> MKP (utter beginner)
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From: "Dennis Heltzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Bootdisks, rdev, and root filesystems...aargh!
Date: 19 Mar 2000 22:09:20 GMT
You need to use a bootmanager like lilo or syslinux to uncompress the root
FS into a RAM
disk and then load the kernel into memory. I've used syslinux for this
quite successfully
(I know that RedHat uses it also, if that matters).
Don Werve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Anyways, I made a root filesystem that compressed takes up 900K, and
> have a 460K kernel. I used dd to copy the kernel image to the disk, and
> then used `rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/fd0 ; rdev -R /dev/fd0 0` to set the disk
> as it's own root device. How do you tell the kernel where to look for a
> compressed root filesystem, so that it can be uncompressed into a
> ramdisk and booted...?
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From: "Jim Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 6.2 & XFree86 4.0?
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 17:17:45 -0500
Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:04:34 -0900, Peter <<8b1933$ajb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> shouted forth into the ether:
> >Is the next release of Red Hat Linux going to have XFree86 4.0
integrated?
>
> Doubtful. 3.3.6 will probably continue to be the "stable" version for the
> next month or 2, while 4.0 is in beta. SuSE 6.4 will include Xfree86 4.0
> as an option, but 3.3.6 will be the reccommended install. If you really
> want to use Xfree 4.0 now, it's not that hard to compile and install
> it--the 80 or so megs of download is a PITA, though.
>
Actually XFree86 4.0 has been officially released.
It does seem to have some issues for a "stable" release.
Jim Ross
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From: "E. Robert Tisdale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.dial-up
Subject: Re: Problems logging in at ISP
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:26:19 +0000
Dani�l H�rchner wrote:
> Hello,
> I am trying to configure a dialup account, but I ran into the
> following problem. After half a minute I get the following messages in
> my
> /var/log/messages:
> Last messages after logging in (?):
> Mar 10 14:45:12 localhost pppd[622]: Serial connection established.
> Mar 10 14:45:12 localhost pppd[622]: Using interface ppp0
> Mar 10 14:45:12 localhost pppd[622]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
>
> After half a minute:
> Mar 10 14:45:43 localhost pppd[622]: LCP: timeout sending
> Config-Requests
> Mar 10 14:45:43 localhost pppd[622]: Connection terminated.
> Mar 10 14:45:43 localhost pppd[622]: Connect time 0.6 minutes.
> Mar 10 14:45:43 localhost pppd[622]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit
> clean:
> Mar 10 14:45:43 localhost pppd[622]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
> Mar 10 14:45:44 localhost pppd[622]: Exit.
>
> What does this mean and how do I solve it?
I got:
.
.
.
Mar 19 14:11:37 localhost pppd[8598]: Serial connection established.
Mar 19 14:11:38 localhost pppd[8598]: Using interface ppp0
Mar 19 14:11:38 localhost pppd[8598]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
Mar 19 14:11:42 localhost pppd[8598]: local IP address ###.###.###.#4
Mar 19 14:11:42 localhost pppd[8598]: remote IP address ###.###.###.#0
.
.
.
Hope this helps, E. Robert Tisdale
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From: Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What database system?
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 17:53:30 -0500
Hi,
I know nothing about databases except for having used an old version
of filemaker a bit. I am now in the position of needing to figure
out how to manage my organization's mailing lists, contacts, and
various other stuff. My web host has MySQL installed and I *think*
it could be made to do what I want, but I don't (yet) understand the
MySQL documentation, it's all very new to me.
I'm hoping someone here can at least tell me if I'm on the right
track, if so I will happily RTFM. I just don't have time to spend a
week learning SQL only to find out it wouldn't work!
WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO:
1) Add or modify records online through html forms. (This is easy.)
2) We need to be updating our contacts "in the field" on laptops, or
in other situations when the web host is unavailable, but we need to
be able to merge it all together into one coherent "master"
database. So we need to be able to make multiple offline copies of
the database onto different machines and then re-combine them later.
This could be done pretty simply with timestamps on each record,
except I can't figure out how to handle the case in which the same
record is modified independently by two or more users; _all_ sets of
modifications need to be taken into account when the copies are
merged together, even if the merges don't take place at the same
time. So we need more than just a timestamp, as far as I can figure
we need a whole history of modification times for each record and a
history of when each copy of the database was split off from the
main database. Can MySQL handle this? Even if it can't figure out
what to do, can it at least be made to spot this condition and warn
the person performing the merge?
I hope that makes sense.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry L. Bond)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RH 6.0 / Elm with MIME?
Date: 19 Mar 2000 17:49:31 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetings!
Okay, I kind of need to get MIME going now...
I asked casually about this a couple months ago, and was told that
"metamail" was what I needed. Well, as I begin to look into this, I have
figured this much out:
I have metamail on my Red Hat 6.0 system.
The elm I'm running apparently is the elm that supports MIME. Here's
what an "elm -v" gives me:
<<>>
Elm Version and Identification Information:
Elm 2.5 PL0pre8, of February 24, 1999
(C) Copyright 1988-1999 USENET Community Trust
Based on Elm 2.0, (C) Copyright 1986,1987 Dave Taylor
----------------------------------
Configured Fri Mar 12 22:31:15 EST 1999
----------------------------------
Use UNIX Mailbox Delimiters and /usr/sbin/sendmail Mail Transport Agent: not
MMDF
Let the MTA add the From: header: DONT_ADD_FROM
Following mail spool locking protocols will be used: USE_FCNTL_LOCKING
From: and Reply-To: addresses are good: USE_EMBEDDED_ADDRESSES
Ignore Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions: not MIME_RECV
Prefers Internet address formats: INTERNET
No debug options are available: not DEBUG
Crypt function enabled: CRYPT
Mailbox editing not included: not ALLOW_MAILBOX_EDITING
Status changing included: ALLOW_STATUS_CHANGING
Subshell menu items included: ALLOW_SUBSHELL
Use setegid(): HAS_SETEGID
Spell checking feature enabled: ISPELL
(Default spelling checker is /usr/bin/ispell options '-x')
Calendar file feature enabled: ENABLE_CALENDAR
(Default calendar file is calendar)
<<>>
According to a web page I accessed, version 2.5 of elm supports the
MIME stuff. Also, there is a mention of MIME above: Ignore Multipurpose
Internet Mail Extensions: not MIME_RECV.
On this "not MIME_RECV" -- does that mean it wasn't compiled to
support it, or can I possibly turn it on (via some option or something)?
(I've looked at man elm, but I haven't figured it out yet.) :-) While I
do use elm (and/or mutt, because I want to be able to read my mail from
terminals as well as the X-Windows console), I am not extremely familiar
with certain parts of elm, such as all the options it allows you to
control, etc.
I do need to get MIME working now. So, I'd appreciate any helpful
hints anyone may have to offer! :-)
Thank you!
Barry
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux keeps crashing...? (long)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:40:51 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jehsom),
In a message on 19 Mar 2000 20:37:31 GMT, wrote :
J> dwmccoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
J> > I would suggest adding more ram to the system. You have an awful lot of
J> > storage in the system and not a lot of memory. <snip> The HD
J> > light staying on during the crash could indicate excessive SWAP file usage
J> > locking the system up due to not enough memory.
J>
J> If you believe any of the following:
J> 1. You need more ram if you have more disk space
J> 2. Linux needs more than 128mb of ram to function "correctly"
J> 3. Having too little ram can cause sporadic *lockups* in linux
J>
J> then take your linux system and format it, and go back to windows.
J> Apparently you're still stuck in the Microsoft mentality of "If
J> I don't throw tons of money to soup up my system with more hard-
J> ware than I should EVER really need, that'll make it more stable."
J>
J> Linux functions within its constraints, unlike windows; and I'm
J> sorry, but NO lack of resources should EVER cause a linux system
J> to lock up completely.
Quite true. I once compiled the mico package (freeware CORBA system) on
a '486DX2-66 with only *40meg* of RAM. I normally have a 64meg swap
partition. I had a 'spare' 64meg swap partition (second distro of Linux
on the system), which I needed to turn on (manually). dwmccoy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> would be surprised to know: the system *did not*
lock up. It took over 24 *hours* to compile everything though. A real
sluggish system for a day or so.
At one point I had a problem with a FidoNet program that resulted in
many locked up *processes*. Everything got swapped out. Killed off the
bad processes. System *seems* wedged for a while, but eventually once
everything got killed off properly, the system came back to life. Linux
is quite tough even when pushed too hard.
J>
J> Moshe
J>
J> --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: lilo won't boot w2k on scsi
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 23:19:53 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to build a Linux / Windows 2000 system. I've
successfully installed W2K (with NTFS) on a SCSI disk (SCSI device 0)
which boots flawlessly when the bios is configured to boot in the order,
"SCSI, A, C". I also have an IDE (primary master) with Red Hat Linux
6.1 which boots properly when the bios is configured for boot sequence
"A, C, SCSI". Lilo is installed on this drive and boots Linux. However
I have not successfully configured duel boot on this system. I would
like to have the bios boot to the IDE and then use lilo to select either
Windows or Linux. I modified /etc/lilo.conf to include the windows
partition /dev/sda1. It now looks like this:
boot = /dev/hda
prompt
default = linux
vga = normal
read-only
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
label = linux
initrd = /boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
root = /dev/hda1
other = /dev/sda1
label = win
When I run install lilo, the only error message I get says
/dev/hdb (the zip drive) reports inconsistent size information. (When I
disconnect the zip drive, this message goes away but my problem
persists.) In either case, it says both "linux" and "win" were
installed successfully.
When I reboot I get the lilo prompt as usual. I can boot linux
fine, but when I try to boot windows, the system prints "Loading win",
then freezes. I know linux can read the disk because "fdisk /dev/sda"
reports the correct information: a single bootable NTFS partition.
I've tried changing "other = /dev/sda1" to "other = /dev/sda".
Then, lilo reports "Error loading operating system", but still does not
boot windows. I've also tried adding "table = /dev/sda" to the end of
the file, but this has no affect.
Here is a list of relavent hardware, for what it's worth:
Epox EP-6VBA (motherboard)
Adaptec AHA-2940 Ultra / Ultra W SCSI controller
Quantum Fireball ST4.3S SCSI
VIA Bus Master IDE controller (builtin to motherboard)
ST51270A (IDE disk)
How can I boot lilo from the primary master IDE such that I can
choose between Linux on the same drive or Win2000 on the SCSI?
Please email me any responses. Thanks.
Eric Levy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Subject: CD-RW troubles
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 23:49:08 GMT
Linux recognizes my Sony CD-RW when it boots up but i cannot mount my
CD-ROM drive i get the message, using the command ,
mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
or too many mounted file systems
And i know i am do not have to many file systems because i have mounted
a ZIP drive after that statement. The fs type i used was ISO9660. I
was wondering if any Linux gurus could tell me the boneheaded thing i
am doing. Please e-mail the response to my e-mail address ,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks in advance for the help
Shyam
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From: "Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I'm Lost!! New to Linux
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 23:24:54 GMT
I have installed Linux which went ok. I'm running a separate HD for Linux so
I use a boot disk to launch Linux. That all works ok. I log on ok with name
& passwd & I appear to go to XWindows . Blue background with 2 white boxes
where my command line comes up.
{ldweber@localhost /ldweber} $
How do I get to an actuall desktop environment??
Thanking you in advance. Larry...
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From: Idar Tollefsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Corrupt file system
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:01:54 GMT
Hello,
When booting, fsck reports errors on the file system, check forced.
After a while, it fails with signal 11, droping me to a root
shell with orders to run fsck manually.
When I do this, it still fails with signal 11 just when it's
about to finish. This is the complete output from the run:
============================================================================
Parallelizing fsck version 1.17 (26-Oct-1999)
e2fsck 1.17, 26-Oct-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
Free blocks count wrong for group #5 (4364, counted=4370).
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #10 (1284, counted=1300).
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #18 (4039, counted=4044).
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #25 (6305, counted=6319)
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #80 (2099, counted=2106)
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #256 (3651, counted=3658)
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #263 (0, counted=623)
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong (487275, counted=487953).
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #10 (1849, counted=1850)
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #80 (1946, counted=1711)
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #258 (1852, counted=1853)
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong (513623, counted=513390)
Fix<y>? yes
/dev/hda5: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
/dev/hda5: 80530/593920 files (3.3% non-contiguous). 1882831/2370784 blocks
Warning... fsck.ext2 for device /dev/hda5 exited with signal 11.
============================================================================
It almost looks like it has problems writing the result back to disk.
I have tried to check for bad blocks on the disk, but found none.
If I run the e2fsck program instead of fsck, the output (the important
parts anyway) is identical, execept that it seg faults instead of
exiting with a signal 11 when it's about to finish.
What can I do to remedy the situation?
- Idar Tollefsen
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From: "William Palfreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.unix.geeks,comp.os.vms,freeserve.help.unix,linux.misc,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,uk.comp.os.linux,uklinux.help.misc,uklinux.help.newbies
Subject: xmail?
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:12:15 -0000
On my university openVMS account there is a lovely little program called
xmail, which is all blue and motify and is a bit like pine. Anybody know if
I can get a Linux version?
--
Bill.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Bootdisks, rdev, and root filesystems...aargh!
Date: 19 Mar 2000 19:06:24 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 Mar 2000 22:09:20 GMT, Dennis Heltzel
<<01bf91f0$c15ded00$790a1aac@server>> shouted forth into the ether:
>You need to use a bootmanager like lilo or syslinux to uncompress the root
>FS into a RAM
>disk and then load the kernel into memory. I've used syslinux for this
>quite successfully
Sorry... While lilo or syslinux might make working with RAMdisks a bit
easier, there's no pressing need to use it. All is explained in the
Bootdisk-HOWTO:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO.html
(Besides, being able to mutter weird-looking rdev incantations has more
Hack Value, y'know!)
--
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There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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