Linux-Misc Digest #900, Volume #27 Sat, 19 May 01 22:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Looking for a GUI telnet (Bob Hauck)
Windows-linux network (Nick)
Re: Server vs Workstation (Gene Wilburn)
Re: RH6.2 & AMD K6-2 (Dave Uhring)
Re: linux 2.2.x to 2.4.x upgrade FAQs? (Dave Uhring)
Busting MS Office (MarkEllse)
Re: problem with upgrading rpm ("Glitch")
Re: Datachute-PCI Slimscsi 1480 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: problem with upgrading rpm ("Glitch")
Re: problem with upgrading rpm ("Glitch")
Time and modules ("�rjan Johansson")
rsync with ssh and no password prompt (Neil Zanella)
Re: problem with upgrading rpm ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Time and modules ("Peter T. Breuer")
Network install RH7.1 and Mandrake8.0 (DaveDiego)
Re: Newbie in a Fankle..... (Michael Perry)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Looking for a GUI telnet
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:44:00 GMT
On 18 May 2001 21:07:36 GMT, Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > VNC does what you want, is free, and cross platform. It's
> > performance is a bit worse than running a real X server
>
> Considering that VNC includes compression, whereas X does not,
But VNC doesn't know what it is displaying, and X does. The VNC client
is not very smart and basically only knows how to display bitmaps. An X
server supports a much more sophisticated protocol.
I use VNC a lot, and like it, but X is usually faster, even without
compression.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows-linux network
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:30:06 -0000
Hello,
We have currently a local network at work with 5 PC's running Win98
I want to replace some of them with linux (Mandrake 8.0)
The question is how can the linux computers "see" the win98 boxes in the
same way windows see other PS's in "Netowork Neiberhood"
I know that they are accesed from "Local Network" in Konqueror but when I
klik on it tells me that it cannot find localhost.
There is no problem when I ping the other PC's
Thanks
Nick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gene Wilburn)
Subject: Re: Server vs Workstation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:40:56 GMT
On Thu, 17 May 2001 22:41:41 -0500, Chakravarthy K Sannedhi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am wondering what difference it is going to make if I have chosen server
>option instead of workstation option while installing the Red Hat 7.0 OS.
>If I am having enough space on machine is it a better idea to install server
>rather than the workstation?
>I was been told that if I am going to choose the server option for
>installation, it will remove all the non-linux partition existing on my
>machine and if I want dual-booting capability on my machine I can't achieve
>that if I go for server installation option. Is this is correct?
>So going for custom installation is the only option if I want both the
>server capabilities and dual-booting capabilities on my machine.
>
>TIA
>Chakravarthy K Sannedhi
Custom is always best. It lets *you* make the decisions. The distinction
between server and workstation is artificial on most home systems.
Gene
--
Gene Wilburn, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Northern Journey Online, http://www.NorthernJourney.com
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6.2 & AMD K6-2
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 18:57:00 -0500
DMcBee wrote:
> Maybe then its my Compaq mainboard. Aha!
> Does that make sense?
>
>
> "Eric Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9e5tli$17nvi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I've had RH6.2 running on an overclocked K6-2 300 for a couple of years
>> now. Your problem is not caused by the CPU.
>>
>> DMcBee wrote:
>>
>> > My install freezes at the very end of the copy/install process. I'm
>> > assuming because of the K6 cpu. Anybody know of any fixes?
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
>>
>> --
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> ETA Associates, Inc.
>> http://www.ultracode.com/
>
>
>
IIRC, that Compaq motherboard is the FIC PAG-2130, a microATX mobo. Has
Apollo MVP4 chipset and Trident Cyberblade video which cannot be turned
off. No AGP slot either. On-board sound which can be turned off.
If so, you can get Linux installed on that system, but you will have to use
XFree86-3.3.6 with the XF86_SVGA server. I had one of them before
XFree86-4 came out. Docs at xfree86.org _say_ that the video chip is
supported :)
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux 2.2.x to 2.4.x upgrade FAQs?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:01:56 -0500
Ray wrote:
> hi
>
> i've been running with a 2.2.19 kernel and wondered if there were any
> FAQs out there that help guide ppl to the newer 2.4 series... i'm not
> looking for a 'how-do-i-type-make?' FAQ but more of a FAQ that list the
> incompatabilities and any common problems that ppl have come across...
>
> i've read some of the docs from the 2.4.3 kernel package and so i can
> get all of the required s/w packages but wondered if there any other
> docs out there
>
> if its of interest, i'm running 2.2.19 from what used to be a redhat 6.2
> distro (libc-2.1.3) although i've upgraded to gcc-2.95.2.
>
> cheers
> ray
>
>
I have one system based on a FIC mobo with the Apollo MVP4 chipset which
will not work with the 2.4.X kernel. Using RH-7.1 on it with a 2.2.19
kernel. And another box with a MSI K7T Pro 2A mobo with a hybridized KT133
chipset which doesn't work with a 2.2.X kernel and needs a 2.4.X kernel
optimized for the chipset.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MarkEllse)
Date: 20 May 2001 00:08:48 GMT
Subject: Busting MS Office
Tried Star Office. Liked it. But that horrid desktop. Turns me off. Did
definitely turn off those less-techie staff I asked to try it. What we need,
chaps, is an MSOffice clone to ease the transition. When MS busted Wordperfect,
they arranged for MSWord to imitate Wordperfect. If they needed to make the
transition easy, then Star Office needs to do the same thing.
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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with upgrading rpm
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:24:28 -0400
>>| I don' thave a problem with dependencies. I have a problem with the |
>> version of RPM i'm using compared to the version that was used to make
>>| the libjpg RPM.....even though after moving to RPM 4.0.2 that problem
>>| should have gone away. So why didn't it? what am i misssing?
>
> Well I'm not going to help you further, although I could. Figure it out
> on your own, Einstein, use what you have between your ears.
>
well the pink stuff between my ears say i did eveything i was supposed to
and yet (surprise surprise) it did not work.
nice OS. Dependency hell...sort of like.......DLL hell.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Datachute-PCI Slimscsi 1480
Date: 19 May 2001 16:37:56 -0700
The aha 1480 cardbus card is not compatiable to with the anatec datachute-pci.
Datachute-pci only supports 16 bit cards. The 1480 is a 32 bit card.
I will have to see if the Raytoc Systems CBS51U cardbus reader is compatable,
according their page it auto detects between cardbus and 16 bit cards. Looks
like it uses the RL5C478 chipset.
>>
>>In article <cjJM6.140$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David says...
>>>
>>>In comp.os.linux.portable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>I got linux to recongize my datachute-pci card adatper. When I insert my adaptec
>>>> Slimscsi card I get the following error.
>>>> initializing socket 0
>>>> unsupported card in socket 0
>>>> cs: no valid ROM images found!
>>>
>>>What were the startup messages from the PCMCIA drivers?
>>>
>>>-- Dave
>>
>>info_man
>>
>
>info_man
>
info_man
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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with upgrading rpm
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:30:07 -0400
In article <9e68en$r0l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jerry Kreps"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Glitch wrote:
>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steve Lamb"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 18 May 2001 19:25:41 -0400, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>All this just to get Opera running. I ran the setup program for
>> >>Opera under Windows and when I ran the program the first time, GASP.
>> >>It actually executed w/o any errors regarding any missing libraries.
>> >>Too bad the Linux version didn't do the same.
>> >
>> > Too bad you're using Red Splat. Opera installed fine every time
>> > for me on
>> > Debian.
>> >
>> >
>> I'm using Suse 6.3. I got the RPM of libjpeg b/c it would be the
>> easiest to find (although with RPM it would probably end up being the
>> most difficult
>> to install). That seems to have been the case.
>
> I run SuSE 7.1 and I downloaded the static binary of Opera and had no
> problems. But, I'm sticking with Konqueror.
Well, i'm sure if i wanted konqueror i'd have to upgrad to KDE 2.0 and I
already tried to upgrade kdelibs, kdenetwork, and some other kde package
but the kdenetwork package couldn't find the kdelibs even when i
specified the directory so i gave up on that idea. So i doubt attempting
konqueror would be worthy of my time. I'd probably have a hell of a time
with upgrading a 100 other packages before finishing all the dependency
requirements for the original program I wanted.
unless libjpeg.so.62 is included in the static version of Opera then it
won't either as it still doesn't solve the probelm of the missing
libjpeg.so.62 on m system. I got 60 but of course that's always the case,
always a few minor versions away from having what is needed.
story of linux's life ,really.
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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with upgrading rpm
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:38:11 -0400
> I run SuSE 7.1 and I downloaded the static binary of Opera and had no
> problems. But, I'm sticking with Konqueror.
just attempted the execution of the static version.....still cant open
libjpeg.so.62 b/c i dont have it installed b/c of the damn 'all powerful'
RPM that it is
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From: "�rjan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Time and modules
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 00:39:41 GMT
Hi all!
Two newbie questions:
1, How do I set the time on my Red Hat 7.0 box?
2, What command do I use to see what modules the kernel has loaded, can't
seem to find the right command line switch for the modprobe command.
Any input welcome!
TIA,
Orjan
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rsync with ssh and no password prompt
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 21:39:01 -0230
Hello,
I have access to a remote Linux box with a faster processor than on my
own box so I compile my source code on the remote box as it is faster.
However when it comes to running the program it is not feasible to
run it on the remote box because transmitting graphics over the network
just takes up too much bandwidth and is very inefficient especially
since my computer is several miles away from the server so this is not
feasible. I thought I would use rsync so I could compile my code remotely
and running locally (once again because the computers are far apart NFS
or mount would not have been a solution besides I am not root on the
server).
Now comes the problem. I can use rsync from the command line to mirror
the directory containing the source code:
rsync -r username@remotehost:path/to/remte/directory/ local/direcoty
This works fine but every time I run it I am prompted for a password.
One solution of course is to embed the interactive program's output
in an expect script which reads the password from a file or from the
script itself but I would like to run the whole thing noninteractively
without using expect.
The --password-file is for rsync password and not for ssh passwords.
The remote server does not seem to be running rsync deamon on port 873
or any port for that matter so I use ssh's port 22.
Now how can I specify my ssh password?
Eventually I would like to add the command to my crontab so that
it can run every two seconds or so and I don't have to worry about
it. Perhaps it can even write to my terminal each time it finishes
copying the files to the local server so that I know when I
'm ready to run my application.
Thanks a lot and sorry for this e-mail being too long,
Neil
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with upgrading rpm
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 03:02:26 +0200
Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I run SuSE 7.1 and I downloaded the static binary of Opera and had no
>> problems. But, I'm sticking with Konqueror.
> just attempted the execution of the static version.....still cant open
> libjpeg.so.62 b/c i dont have it installed b/c of the damn 'all powerful'
Well install it then, you berk. What is this, a stupidity contest?
Peter
PS ....
On my (debian 2.2) box, a search for libjpeg shows that I have
everything in spades. So just get yourself the debian source and
compile it, if you're incapable of opening the correct rpm. As
you can see, the debian package is called libjpeg62. But that may
sprain your neuron ..
nbd:/usr/oboe/ptb% locate libjpeg
/usr/doc/libjpeg62
/usr/doc/libjpeg62-dev
/usr/doc/libjpegg6a
/usr/lib/jdk1.1/lib/ia32/green_threads/libjpeg_sun.so
/usr/lib/jdk1.1/lib/ia32/green_threads/libjpeg_sun_g.so
/usr/lib/jdk1.1/lib/ia32/native_threads/libjpeg_sun.so
/usr/lib/libjpeg.a
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62.0.0
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6a
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6a.0.0
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6b
/usr/local/mozilla/libjpeg.so
/usr/local/mozilla/plugins/java2/lib/i386/libjpeg.so
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62-dev
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62-dev/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62-dev/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62-dev/coderules.doc.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62-dev/copyright
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62-dev/examples
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62-dev/examples/example.c.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62-dev/libjpeg.doc.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62-dev/structure.doc.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62-dev/wizard.doc.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62/copyright
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg62/README.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpegg6a
/usr/share/doc/libjpegg6a/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpegg6a/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/libjpegg6a/copyright
/usr/share/doc/libjpegg6a/README.gz
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpeg62-dev.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpeg62-dev.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpeg62.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpeg62.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpeg62.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpeg62.postrm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpeg62.shlibs
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpegg6a.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpegg6a.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpegg6a.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpegg6a.postrm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libjpegg6a.shlibs
And for a special treat, the same on a random RedHat 7.0 box ...
flautin:/usr/oboe/ptb% locate libjpeg
/usr/lib/netscape6/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62.0.0
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62
/usr/lib/libjpeg.a
/usr/lib/libjpeg.la
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6.0.1
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg-6b
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg-6b/usage.doc
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg-devel-6b
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg-devel-6b/coderules.doc
/usr/share/doc/libjpeg-devel-6b/libjpeg.doc
/usr/share/doc/python-docs-1.5.2/Doc/libjpeg.tex
/usr/java/jre1.3/lib/i386/libjpeg.so
/usr/java/jdk1.3/jre/lib/i386/libjpeg.so
So no probs.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Time and modules
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 03:05:16 +0200
"rjan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1, How do I set the time on my Red Hat 7.0 box?
date (don't you have timetool or whatever rh go in for?)
> 2, What command do I use to see what modules the kernel has loaded, can't
> seem to find the right command line switch for the modprobe command.
lsmod
Peter
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From: DaveDiego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Network install RH7.1 and Mandrake8.0
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 01:27:39 GMT
I'm attempting to network install Mandrake8 and RH7.1 on a CDrom less
PC. I havnt had any problems in the past, but both distributions fail to
load my 3C509 NIC.
I just installed RH7.0, but I can't upgrade since it won't load the
driver. I've tried several variations with options, but sinceI've never
needed to do them befoer, I'm not sure if I'm setting the options
correctly.
Whats the proper syntax for adding options for the NIC?
I guess I'm also open to installing another distro as long as I can do a
network install from floppy. I've been with RH since 4.2, so I'm kindof
used to it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Newbie in a Fankle.....
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 02:02:52 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 19 May 2001 21:09:06 +0100, Martin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the comments Mike.
>
> I managed to get Lilo reinstated by reinstalling. I now have a secondary
> problem which is a bit of a stumper.
>
> Since I last ran Linux, I have swapped out my video card for a Geforce 2 MX.
> Now, when the graphical user interface tries to launch, I'm getting
> scrambled video.
>
> A few sage words of advice would go down nicely right now.
>
> You're quite right about the cheap PC's. The reason I'd strayed from Linux
> for while, was that I have been setting up a two PC network, using a hub
> etc. I'd now like to play at getting it all working with Linux, which I
> understand has far superior networking in comparison to Microsoft's
> offering.
>
> Regards
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
Howdy!
Well, the GEForce 2mx card is a nice one. I have one that Im using right
now. Let me give you a bird's eye view of what I did to get my card
working. I am using debian unstable with Xfree86 4.0.3. The later X is
very important to this discussion. With the GeForce card, one can use the
"nv" driver which comes with X in versions above X4.0.1 I think. This card
does 2d primarily and I use it with a Diamond Viper 770d which also uses the
nvidia chipset. The best way is to download the latest nvidia drivers from
www.nvidia.com and follow the links to support and then to Linux drivers.
You will find drivers in a lot of formats including tarball archives. I use
the tarballs along with the 2.4.4 kernel but you may not want to play there.
If you use an rpm-based distribution (redhat, suse, mandrake), there are
rpms there for download. I don't use rpm so someone else can comment on its
use. From there you just compile the drivers or install them and you get X
working nice and pretty by editing the /etc/X11XF86Config-4 file and
changing one occurence from "nv" to "nvidia".
If you are using a relatively recent distribution, you should be good to go.
RedHat 7.1, SuSE 7.1, mandrake version 8; or debian unstable. If not, you
may need to do a bit more work to get things working like downloading and
installing either rpm's of the later X for your particular distro or just
downloading the installer and tarballs from xfree86.org and doing the job
yourself.
Try to use a basic tool to setup X and not Xconfigurator if you can. I
think XConfigureblaster is a likely candidate in more than a few video
scrambles I have seen.
So, thats the recipe. I tend to think its pretty easy. I just install
debian potato and then immediately do an apt-get to unstable and get the
latest X and then apply the nvidia drivers after I compile a 2.4 series
kernel to take advantage of my athlon 1g thunderbird.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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